Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Gutzler
Problem solved.

I could restore the superblock using:
dd if=disk skip=32 of=disk seek=16 bs=512 count=16

Thx to
http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=Pine.BSF.4.21.0212150052530.41793-10_root.org%40ns.sol.netoe=UTF-8output=gplain

Cheers,
 Tom
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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread Bruce Evans
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Thomas Gutzler wrote:

 Problem solved.

 I could restore the superblock using:
 dd if=disk skip=32 of=disk seek=16 bs=512 count=16

 Thx to
 http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=Pine.BSF.4.21.0212150052530.41793-10_root.org%40ns.sol.netoe=UTF-8output=gplain

Not really solved.  fsck_ffs is supposed to be able to find alternative
superblocks automatically, and the primary superblock shouldn't get
trashed.  Apparently the first alternative is at offset 32 (this is
a normal place for it IIRC), but fsck_ffs can't find it there for
some reason.

Bruce
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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Bruce Evans wrote this message on Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 16:12 +1000:
  Thx to
  http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=Pine.BSF.4.21.0212150052530.41793-10_root.org%40ns.sol.netoe=UTF-8output=gplain
 
 Not really solved.  fsck_ffs is supposed to be able to find alternative
 superblocks automatically, and the primary superblock shouldn't get
 trashed.  Apparently the first alternative is at offset 32 (this is
 a normal place for it IIRC), but fsck_ffs can't find it there for
 some reason.

I've also had the problem of when you do use an alternate superblock
via -b, it doesn't over drive the primary.  If you have a disk with
bad blocks on the primary, you have to manualy rewrite it with dd.

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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread Armand Passelac

I don't have the solution.
But I known a program taht allow you to restore partitions :
http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
It seems to be very powerfull.
With it you could get your data from broken partitions.
PS : I know the developper, so if you have problem ...



[ On Sun, 24 Aug, 2003 at 21:26, Thomas Gutzler wrote: ]
 Hi,
 
 I just lost all of my filesystems on my 5.1 box.
 I was running mnogosearch's indexer on my website while several errors
 occured. I guess there were 320 of these errors, cause the last message
 was last message repeated 320 times. Unfortunately /var is lost as
 well, so I don't have more error messages.
 
 kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: ad0s1b, blkno: 23536, size: 4096
 kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
 kernel: ata0: resetting devices ..
 kernel: done
 kernel: bad block 4190320178290426368, ino 402986
 kernel: pid 42 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 402986 on /usr: bad block
 
 I decided to reboot into singleuser and run fsck. I noticed, that the
 buffers couldn't be flushed before restarting and the system couldn't
 boot. It said: not ufs
 
 I plugged the harddisk into another computer and tried to run fsck.
 It couldn't find a superblock, used an alternative one and coredumped
 while trying to repair the first error. Before dumping, it said
 something like Couldnt allocate 39 bytes for inoinfo. I can
 only remember the value of around 3.9G.
 This happened on all filesystems of ad0. I could mount the
 filesystem but not access it, but df said: Used: -2.8T (on a 40G disk).
 I surrendered on that and ran newfs.
 
 I don't know why, but fsck works on ad1.
 fsck said something like softupdate inconsistency while trying to
 repair the filesystem which obviously didn't completely work.
 
 # fsck /dev/ad1s1e
 ** /dev/ad1s1e
 Cannot find file system superblock
 
 LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y
 
 USING ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCK AT 32
 ** Last Mounted on
 ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
 ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
 ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
 ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
 ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
 19093 files, 42115174 used, 33631703 free (6471 frags, 4203154 blocks,
 0.0% fragmentation)
 
 # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/
 mount: /dev/ad1s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block
 
 same thing using fsck -b 32 or any other alternative
 
 Google somewhere advised to use tunefs, but:
 # tunefs -A /dev/ad1s1e
 tunefs: /dev/ad1s1e: could not read superblock to fill out disk
 
 Even trying to copy an alternate superblock using dd faied.
 
 Do you have any ideas, how I could recover the data on this disk ?
 
 Cheers,
 Tom
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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread Matthias Andree
John-Mark Gurney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've also had the problem of when you do use an alternate superblock
 via -b, it doesn't over drive the primary.  If you have a disk with
 bad blocks on the primary, you have to manualy rewrite it with dd.

...provided the drive automatically reassigns bad blocks on write
(ARWE). I've seen a drive shipping with ARRE set but ARWE unset - it
would reassign on read rather than write. Whatever the manufacturer had
in mind configuring the drive before shipping it...

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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Gutzler
Am Sun, 24.Aug.2003 um 23:50:56 -0700 schraubte John-Mark Gurney:
 Bruce Evans wrote this message on Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 16:12 +1000:
   Thx to
   http://groups.google.de/groups?selm=Pine.BSF.4.21.0212150052530.41793-10_root.org%40ns.sol.netoe=UTF-8output=gplain
  
  Not really solved.  fsck_ffs is supposed to be able to find alternative
  superblocks automatically, and the primary superblock shouldn't get
  trashed.  Apparently the first alternative is at offset 32 (this is
  a normal place for it IIRC), but fsck_ffs can't find it there for
  some reason.

Hm, newfs said, that the first backup is at 144.
But the nice dd line worked anyway. I copied the result in a file and 
# file alternate_sb
alternate_sb: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on ,
last written at Fri Sep  6 11:53:08 
2002, clean flag 1, number of blocks 78148161, number of data blocks
75746877, number of cylinder groups 173
5, block size 8192, fragment size 1024, minimum percentage of free
blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME
optimization

running fsck -b 144 didn't work.

 I've also had the problem of when you do use an alternate superblock
 via -b, it doesn't over drive the primary.  If you have a disk with
 bad blocks on the primary, you have to manualy rewrite it with dd.

I'm pretty sure that this harddrive works well, cause it's just 3 weeks
old and SMART doesn't find any errors, reallocations ..

Tom
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recover superblock

2003-08-24 Thread Thomas Gutzler
Hi,

I just lost all of my filesystems on my 5.1 box.
I was running mnogosearch's indexer on my website while several errors
occured. I guess there were 320 of these errors, cause the last message
was last message repeated 320 times. Unfortunately /var is lost as
well, so I don't have more error messages.

kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: ad0s1b, blkno: 23536, size: 4096
kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
kernel: ata0: resetting devices ..
kernel: done
kernel: bad block 4190320178290426368, ino 402986
kernel: pid 42 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 402986 on /usr: bad block

I decided to reboot into singleuser and run fsck. I noticed, that the
buffers couldn't be flushed before restarting and the system couldn't
boot. It said: not ufs

I plugged the harddisk into another computer and tried to run fsck.
It couldn't find a superblock, used an alternative one and coredumped
while trying to repair the first error. Before dumping, it said
something like Couldnt allocate 39 bytes for inoinfo. I can
only remember the value of around 3.9G.
This happened on all filesystems of ad0. I could mount the
filesystem but not access it, but df said: Used: -2.8T (on a 40G disk).
I surrendered on that and ran newfs.

I don't know why, but fsck works on ad1.
fsck said something like softupdate inconsistency while trying to
repair the filesystem which obviously didn't completely work.

# fsck /dev/ad1s1e
** /dev/ad1s1e
Cannot find file system superblock

LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y

USING ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCK AT 32
** Last Mounted on
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
19093 files, 42115174 used, 33631703 free (6471 frags, 4203154 blocks,
0.0% fragmentation)

# mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/
mount: /dev/ad1s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block

same thing using fsck -b 32 or any other alternative

Google somewhere advised to use tunefs, but:
# tunefs -A /dev/ad1s1e
tunefs: /dev/ad1s1e: could not read superblock to fill out disk

Even trying to copy an alternate superblock using dd faied.

Do you have any ideas, how I could recover the data on this disk ?

Cheers,
Tom
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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-24 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:11 +0200, Thomas Gutzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi,

I just lost all of my filesystems on my 5.1 box.
I was running mnogosearch's indexer on my website while several errors
occured. I guess there were 320 of these errors, cause the last message
was last message repeated 320 times. Unfortunately /var is lost as
well, so I don't have more error messages.
kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: ad0s1b, blkno: 23536, 
size: 4096
kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
kernel: ata0: resetting devices ..
kernel: done
kernel: bad block 4190320178290426368, ino 402986
kernel: pid 42 (syncer), uid 0 inumber 402986 on /usr: bad block

I decided to reboot into singleuser and run fsck. I noticed, that the
buffers couldn't be flushed before restarting and the system couldn't
boot. It said: not ufs
I plugged the harddisk into another computer and tried to run fsck.
It couldn't find a superblock, used an alternative one and coredumped
while trying to repair the first error. Before dumping, it said
something like Couldnt allocate 39 bytes for inoinfo. I can
only remember the value of around 3.9G.
This happened on all filesystems of ad0. I could mount the
filesystem but not access it, but df said: Used: -2.8T (on a 40G disk).
I surrendered on that and ran newfs.
I don't know why, but fsck works on ad1.
fsck said something like softupdate inconsistency while trying to
repair the filesystem which obviously didn't completely work.
I have lost over 1,000 to 2,000 emails like three times when the Nvidia 
driver crashed and had to do the power off and on to get it boot to let the 
fsck background do the job. Yesterday, I CVSup'ed and did the buildworld to 
update my -CURRENT. I got panic and reboot; first time I see the same 
message above, 'softupdate inconsistency' and I had to ran fsck by manual. 
After that, I discovered that my /var/, /compat/linux/ and very little 
stuff in my home directory have been destroyed. I can't produce the panic 
anymore so can't really give any help that much now; it was only panic at 
once for unknown reason.

Just want to add in here that you aren't only person in here.

Cheers,
Mezz
# fsck /dev/ad1s1e
** /dev/ad1s1e
Cannot find file system superblock
LOOK FOR ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCKS? [yn] y

USING ALTERNATE SUPERBLOCK AT 32
** Last Mounted on
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
19093 files, 42115174 used, 33631703 free (6471 frags, 4203154 blocks,
0.0% fragmentation)
# mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/
mount: /dev/ad1s1e on /mnt: incorrect super block
same thing using fsck -b 32 or any other alternative

Google somewhere advised to use tunefs, but:
# tunefs -A /dev/ad1s1e
tunefs: /dev/ad1s1e: could not read superblock to fill out disk
Even trying to copy an alternate superblock using dd faied.

Do you have any ideas, how I could recover the data on this disk ?

Cheers,
Tom


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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-24 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

 On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:11 +0200, Thomas Gutzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 I have lost over 1,000 to 2,000 emails like three times when the Nvidia
 driver crashed and had to do the power off and on to get it boot to let the
 fsck background do the job. Yesterday, I CVSup'ed and did the buildworld to
 update my -CURRENT. I got panic and reboot; first time I see the same
 message above, 'softupdate inconsistency' and I had to ran fsck by manual.
 After that, I discovered that my /var/, /compat/linux/ and very little
 stuff in my home directory have been destroyed. I can't produce the panic
 anymore so can't really give any help that much now; it was only panic at
 once for unknown reason.

 Just want to add in here that you aren't only person in here.

I don't have a solution for you, but I have some sound advice: Don't run
critical systems on -current. I consider email to fall in that category...

Regards,

 Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
 Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/
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Re: recover superblock

2003-08-24 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:53:26 -0400 (EDT), Andre Guibert de Bruet 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Jeremy Messenger wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:11 +0200, Thomas Gutzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have lost over 1,000 to 2,000 emails like three times when the Nvidia
driver crashed and had to do the power off and on to get it boot to let 
the
fsck background do the job. Yesterday, I CVSup'ed and did the buildworld 
to
update my -CURRENT. I got panic and reboot; first time I see the same
message above, 'softupdate inconsistency' and I had to ran fsck by 
manual.
After that, I discovered that my /var/, /compat/linux/ and very little
stuff in my home directory have been destroyed. I can't produce the 
panic
anymore so can't really give any help that much now; it was only panic 
at
once for unknown reason.

Just want to add in here that you aren't only person in here.
I don't have a solution for you, but I have some sound advice: Don't run
critical systems on -current. I consider email to fall in that 
category...
I am pretty aware of it and I don't care of those are lost because I always 
backup my personal stuff daily. I run everything in bleed edge such as - 
CURRENT, Gnome 2.4, VIM-cvs and etc, so I know my risk.

Cheers,
Mezz
Regards,

Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/


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