Re: (KAME-snap 3974) Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-02-05 Thread Jean-Luc Richier

Dans votre courrier du 25 Jan 16:49 vous ecrivez :
 In your previous mail you wrote:
   
   It is not impossible to support IPv6 NFS without switching to TI-RPC,
   INRIA IPv6 has the code (IIRC).

= this code was ported to FreeBSD 4.2. I'll give more details as soon as
I am back to my office (ie. next week).

The code is available on ftp.imag.fr, directory
/archive/networking/ipv6/INRIA/FreeBSD4
files FILES-NFS-FreeBSD42.tgz (files) or   PATCH-NFS-FreeBSD42 (patch)
It as been tested against Solaris8.


However, if you try this, there will
   be a lot of of non-intuitive typecast against library arguments.
   
= this is a matter of taste. TI-RPC is not perfect tooo (:-).

and also the old RPC interface is too weak to manage correctly different
types of transport at the same time.

It agree that a long term solution is to change to the TI-RPC interface,
but the real TI-RPC libraries are complicated. 

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Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-02-04 Thread Martin Blapp


Hi,

So, I have merged in the newest libc changes and fixed some
buildworld issues. It still needs some _THREAD_SAFE fixes I
guess, cause we build now thread-safe libc per default. But
we can do this later ...

Go into your CURRENT source tree and execute the shell archive,
it will create the necessary directories and remove some files
to prevent appling files two times.

You find the TI-RPC patch on:

http:/www.attic.ch/patches/rpc.diff_04022001.sh.tgz

Martin

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Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-02-04 Thread Martin Blapp


Argl, the correct URL is of course:

http://www.attic.ch:80/patches/rpc.diff_04022001.sh.tgz

Cheers:
Martin

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On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Martin Blapp wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 So, I have merged in the newest libc changes and fixed some
 buildworld issues. It still needs some _THREAD_SAFE fixes I
 guess, cause we build now thread-safe libc per default. But
 we can do this later ...
 
 Go into your CURRENT source tree and execute the shell archive,
 it will create the necessary directories and remove some files
 to prevent appling files two times.
 
 You find the TI-RPC patch on:
 
 http:/www.attic.ch/patches/rpc.diff_04022001.sh.tgz
 
 Martin
 
 Martin Blapp, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Improware AG, UNIX solution and service provider
 Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, Switzerland
 Phone: +41 79 370 26 05, Fax: +41 61 826 93 01
 
 
 



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TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Ronald van der Pol

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:

 :On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
 :
 : Concentrate on making the general network stack (aka TCP) and
 : filesystems SMP aware.  Leave NFS alone for now.   Please.
 :
 :If I understand correctly another item on the wishlist is TI-RPC
 :(so that NFS can be made IPv6 aware). What is the latest on that?
 :
 : rvdp
 
 I don't think anyone is working on IPV6 issues at the moment.

(I have cc-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED])

This came up about half a year ago in the KAME snap mailing list.
I think the conclusion was: a migration from "old" RPC to TI-RPC
is a pre-requisite for making NFS IPv6 aware.

So, I was wondering whether a switch to TI-RPC is planned. I know
it is a major task.

rvdp



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Re: (KAME-snap 3972) TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Feico Dillema

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:40:22PM +0100, Ronald van der Pol wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
 
 (I have cc-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 This came up about half a year ago in the KAME snap mailing list.
 I think the conclusion was: a migration from "old" RPC to TI-RPC
 is a pre-requisite for making NFS IPv6 aware.
 
 So, I was wondering whether a switch to TI-RPC is planned. I know
 it is a major task.

I don't think this is within the KAME-project scope. On NetBSD, the
NetBSD crowd has done this almost a year ago (I believe) and NFS over
IPv6 works just great on NetBSD. I'd guess FreeBSD could borrow a lot
from the NetBSD work, reducing the major-ness of the task?

Feico.


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Re: (KAME-snap 3972) TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread itojun


I don't think this is within the KAME-project scope. On NetBSD, the
NetBSD crowd has done this almost a year ago (I believe) and NFS over
IPv6 works just great on NetBSD. I'd guess FreeBSD could borrow a lot
from the NetBSD work, reducing the major-ness of the task?

The above is correct.  NetBSD NFS-over-IPv6 (actually RPC over IPv6)
is TI-RPC based, and it was done by NetBSD guys not KAME guys.

It is not impossible to support IPv6 NFS without switching to TI-RPC,
INRIA IPv6 has the code (IIRC).  However, if you try this, there will
be a lot of of non-intuitive typecast against library arguments.

itojun


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Re: (KAME-snap 3974) Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Francis Dupont

 In your previous mail you wrote:
   
It is not impossible to support IPv6 NFS without switching to TI-RPC,
INRIA IPv6 has the code (IIRC).

= this code was ported to FreeBSD 4.2. I'll give more details as soon as
I am back to my office (ie. next week).

However, if you try this, there will
be a lot of of non-intuitive typecast against library arguments.
   
= this is a matter of taste. TI-RPC is not perfect tooo (:-).

Thanks

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Re: (KAME-snap 3976) Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread itojun


  The above is correct.  NetBSD NFS-over-IPv6 (actually RPC over IPv6)
  is TI-RPC based, and it was done by NetBSD guys not KAME guys.
Sorry, I was not clear. The question about moving towards TI-RPC was
directed to freebsd-current. Just out of interest. No critisism intended.

no, i did not took it as criticism.  i (and feico) just tried to
clarify.

itojun


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TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Martin Blapp


Hi,

Alfred Perlstein and I have ported TI-RPC to FreeBSD Current. You can find
the latest snapshot here:

http://www.attic.ch/rpc.diff_01114001.tgz

Patches and bugfixes are welcome.

Martin

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Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Martin Blapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010125 11:07] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Alfred Perlstein and I have ported TI-RPC to FreeBSD Current. You can find
 the latest snapshot here:
 
 http://www.attic.ch/rpc.diff_01114001.tgz
 
 Patches and bugfixes are welcome.

Can you post a summary of how you've done it and what you've done to it 
since we last worked on this?

Nothing big, just a few points on what it gives us and what you've
done (or not done) about the TLI junk that it's encumbered with.

thanks,
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Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Jun Kuriyama

At 25 Jan 2001 19:08:14 GMT,
Martin Blapp wrote:
 http://www.attic.ch/rpc.diff_01114001.tgz

I cannot fetch it.  Gone into attic?  :-)


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Re: TI-RPC, IPv6 and NFS (was: Re: strong recommendation re: NFS)

2001-01-25 Thread Martin Blapp


Hi, I'll place a new version tomorrow on the server.
be patient untill then.

Martin

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jun Kuriyama wrote:

 At 25 Jan 2001 19:08:14 GMT,
 Martin Blapp wrote:
  http://www.attic.ch/rpc.diff_01114001.tgz
 
 I cannot fetch it.  Gone into attic?  :-)
 
 
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Re: strong recommendation re: NFS

2001-01-24 Thread Ronald van der Pol

On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:

 Concentrate on making the general network stack (aka TCP) and
 filesystems SMP aware.  Leave NFS alone for now.   Please.

If I understand correctly another item on the wishlist is TI-RPC
(so that NFS can be made IPv6 aware). What is the latest on that?

rvdp



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Re: strong recommendation re: NFS

2001-01-24 Thread Matt Dillon


:
:On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
:
: Concentrate on making the general network stack (aka TCP) and
: filesystems SMP aware.  Leave NFS alone for now.   Please.
:
:If I understand correctly another item on the wishlist is TI-RPC
:(so that NFS can be made IPv6 aware). What is the latest on that?
:
:   rvdp

I don't think anyone is working on IPV6 issues at the moment.

-Matt


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strong recommendation re: NFS

2001-01-21 Thread Matt Dillon

Guys, I've noticed that some of you have been making noises about
cleaning up the NFS macros in current.

I strongly recommend that you not do this, at least not unless
you want to take on a man month (or two!) worth of work  debugging! 
In fact, I would recommend that the NFS subsystem be left alone as much
as possible until -current is far more stable then it is.  NFS issues tend
to be subtle, and unless you've been staring at the code for a year
you are likely to introduce more bugs then you fix.  There's a reason why
I (Mr 'rewrite everything' Dillon) haven't touched them.

Concentrate on making the general network stack (aka TCP) and
filesystems SMP aware.  Leave NFS alone for now.   Please.

-Matt



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