Re: commit MAKE_SHELL?

2000-04-26 Thread Doug Barton
Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Well, *should* we have a built-in "test"? I gather the original ash didn't have it due to the KIS principle. But if it speeds things up considerably, it's not much of a bloat, is it? I'd volunteer to write it. Unfortunately, the only way to tell for sure would

Re: Shell games

2000-04-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:53:22 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: I'm not sure why sanity won here though. I guess it'll be done the next time it comes up Reason won in the Bourne shell case because ours is actively maintained. Until ours is no longer actively maintained by a responsive,

Re: floating point exceptions

2000-04-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:05:23 MST, Brooks Davis wrote: Is FreeBSD's behavior correct? Why or why not? You can use the included code snippet to verify that this occurs. FreeBSD has traditionaly violated the IEEE FP standard in this regard. This is fixed in 5.0 and I think in

Large mbufs?

2000-04-26 Thread Dennis
Is there support for large mbufs in v4.0? (that is, allocations of any size?) Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Large mbufs?

2000-04-26 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Dennis writes: Is there support for large mbufs in v4.0? (that is, allocations of any size?) There are 2 ways to use large mbufs: o options MCLSHIFT= in your kernel config file. Where XXX is 1 XXX bytes. Eg, MCLSHIFT=12 is 4K mbuf clusters, MCLSHIFT=13 is 8k clusters, etc. config

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Narvi
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: [snip] disk itself is probably the bottleneck. Disk writes tend to be somewhat slower then disk reads and the seeking alone (between source file and destination file), even when using a large block size, will reduce performance

Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Stephen Hocking
Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for testing things which like a large amount of memory set aside exclusively for hardware's use (I'm thinking of Utah-GLX's DMA

IPv4-IPv6 conversion suite?

2000-04-26 Thread Nick Sayer
I have just set up IPv6 on my network at home, and there was much rejoicing. :-) Now the problem is that legacy apps don't have v6 support. One idea I have floating around in my head is the idea of a socks-like combination of libc support and faith to allow IPv6-only networks to participate in

Re: Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Stephen Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000426 09:23] wrote: Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for testing things which like a large amount of memory set aside

Re: floating point exceptions

2000-04-26 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 26), Sheldon Hearn said: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:05:23 MST, Brooks Davis wrote: Is FreeBSD's behavior correct? Why or why not? You can use the included code snippet to verify that this occurs. FreeBSD has traditionaly violated the IEEE FP standard in this

Re: Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Stephen Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000426 09:23] wrote: Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for testing things which like a large

Re: floating point exceptions

2000-04-26 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 11:03:45AM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: Why should we treat (1.0/0.0) any differently from (1/0)? Because Linux has the uncanny ability to both divide by zero and produce the shittiest coders the world has ever seen. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Kent Stewart
Narvi wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: [snip] disk itself is probably the bottleneck. Disk writes tend to be somewhat slower then disk reads and the seeking alone (between source file and destination file), even when using a large block size,

Re: commit MAKE_SHELL?

2000-04-26 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 11:00:07PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Well, *should* we have a built-in "test"? I gather the original ash didn't have it due to the KIS principle. But if it speeds things up considerably, it's not much of a bloat, is it? I'd volunteer to

Re: Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Mike Smith
Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for testing things which like a large amount of memory set aside exclusively for hardware's use (I'm thinking of Utah-GLX's DMA

Re: Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Mike Smith
* Stephen Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000426 09:23] wrote: Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for testing things which like a large amount of memory set aside

Re: Using the boot loader to set maximum memory size?

2000-04-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000426 10:46] wrote: * Stephen Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000426 09:23] wrote: Is there any chance of extending the loader so that it can set the memory size, rather than hard coding it into the kernel config file? This would be quite useful for

Re: floating point exceptions

2000-04-26 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:16:51PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 11:03:45AM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: Why should we treat (1.0/0.0) any differently from (1/0)? Because Linux has the uncanny ability to both divide by zero and produce the shittiest coders the world has

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Kent Stewart
Matthew Dillon wrote: The standard PCI bus can do 130 MBytes/sec. Even with overhead issues (setup for a DMA burst) it can still do 100 MBytes/sec. But that depends on what is also going on at the same time. There are three other cards in my PCI bus. You can eliminate one because

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 26), Kent Stewart said: I just noticed that mine isn't showing "Tagged Queueing Enabled" is that something I can set? The adapter is an Adaptec 2940uw. da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da0: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
:In the last episode (Apr 26), Kent Stewart said: : I just noticed that mine isn't showing "Tagged Queueing Enabled" is : that something I can set? The adapter is an Adaptec 2940uw. : : da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 : da0: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device : da0:

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread sthaug
A modern hard disk can do 10-30 MBytes/sec to/from the platter, assuming no seeks. But the moment it needs to seek the performance drops drastically ... generally down to 1-5 MBytes/sec. I haven't seen any 30MB/s. The 10K LVD IBM's were just about the fastest at 20MB/s

Removing synchronizing instruction from MP unlock

2000-04-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
I had added a synchronizing instruction to the MP unlock code in November after the issue was brought up in the lists and linux folks thought there might be a synchronization issue. It turns out that there is no issue. This was refered to me by Mike Silbersack:

Re: Safe sourcing of rc files

2000-04-26 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2000-04-19 (16:51), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: I have another idea: We make a sh script named "rcsource" or whatever, which we source when we want to have the rc environment, stealing your code maliciously: /-- sourcercs_sourced_files= sourcercs ( ) { local rc_conf_files

Re: Double buffered cp(1)

2000-04-26 Thread Kent Stewart
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Apr 26), Kent Stewart said: I just noticed that mine isn't showing "Tagged Queueing Enabled" is that something I can set? The adapter is an Adaptec 2940uw. da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da0: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2

Re: commit MAKE_SHELL?

2000-04-26 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 07:55:19PM +, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Unfortunately, the only way to tell for sure would be to do a couple make worlds with the current sh, then do some with super-sh with the built in 'test'. You are right. I will do it, and report the results.

xe driver

2000-04-26 Thread FreeBSD MAIL
FYI I tried the xe driver in 4.0-Stable and could not get it to work. I have a 16bit Xircomn RE-10 ethernet adaptor. here is what I tried /etc/pccard.conf # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + modem (Ethernet part) card "Xircom" "Ethernet Adapter" config auto "xe1" 9 insert

Re: No route for 127/8 to lo0 (?)

2000-04-26 Thread Nik Clayton
On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:28:32PM -0400, Joseph Jacobson wrote: See RFC1122, section 3.2.1.3, available at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1122.html http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1122.html Right. Assuming we're looking at the same section, it says: [...]

Re: floating point exceptions

2000-04-26 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 27), Andrew Reilly said: Because 0.0 might be the closest approximation to whatever number you were really trying to divide by that the hardware can manage. 0 is never an approximation to 1 or -1. Aaah, but that assumes you're not also trapping on underflow :) --

Re: How about building modules along with the kernel?

2000-04-26 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
[cc'ing to hackers, to get this archived] George Cox wrote: On 26/04 19:29, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: BTW, loader reads FAT just fine too, thank you. I have a related question :-) Is there any way I can put a FreeBSD kernel on a DOS partition, and load it, specifying the root device

lock-ups due to the scheduler

2000-04-26 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
I dropped hints that there may be issues about 3 weeks ago, as my machine had locked up for apparently no reason, and I had no idea why until recently. It seems that it has everything to do with running things that use lots of CPU at a very high priority (I use -20). I've been struggling for a

Re: commit MAKE_SHELL?

2000-04-26 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:00:07 -0700, Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anatoly Vorobey wrote: Well, *should* we have a built-in "test"? I gather the original ash didn't have it due to the KIS principle. But if it speeds things up considerably, it's not much of a bloat, is it? I'd volunteer

Re: lock-ups due to the scheduler

2000-04-26 Thread Luoqi Chen
This is quite interesting. I'm no scheduler expert, but my understanding is priority PUSER won't degrade and is only set in kernel mode after waking up from a sleep. In user mode, processes should always have priority p_usrpri = PUSER, it is obviously not true for a negative nice value: