Re: Path MTU discovery.

2000-06-08 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 18:03:45 +1200, Dave Preece wrote: Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does anything use it? Sure, TCP uses it. TCP (at least in FreeBSD) sets the "don't frag" bit on all its outgoing packets. If the packet gets to a router with an outgoing MTU that

RE: Path MTU discovery.

2000-06-08 Thread Dave Preece
Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does anything use it? Sure, TCP uses it. TCP (at least in FreeBSD) sets the "don't frag" bit on all its outgoing packets. Good lord, so it does. Mental note, packet sniff before posting in future. So... thinking about what

Re: kerneld for FreeBSD

2000-06-08 Thread Mike Nowlin
I personally consider leaving the kernel module loadable intact after boot to be a huge, huge security hole. Loadable modules... fine, but once the machine goes multi-user I want to up the securelevel and that disables any further kld operations. If one of the biggest

Re: kerneld for FreeBSD

2000-06-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Mike Nowlin wrote: Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"? Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules saves won't

3-Stable: Logging to syslog fails

2000-06-08 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Hi I have a system running a stable snap of 3.4 of round about May 31, I have a program that does quite a bit of logging, and sometime the following occurs: The process would just stop (seems to block) - a bt in gdb showed that it was stuck in open after the following sequence of calls syslog

Re: kern/16318: Fix for wrong interface when adding new routes

2000-06-08 Thread William Carrel
This problem still affects the FreeBSD kernel in 4.0 and 5.0. A patch file for 4.0-STABLE follows, I've tested this on 4.0-RELEASE and 4.0-STABLE (incl. SMP for what it's worth). There is no difference between route.c at HEAD(5.0-current) and RELENG_4(4.0-stable) so this patch should work

syslog do not want to remote log

2000-06-08 Thread Johan Kruger
I have 2 machine's : A = Amnesiac B = ockle I want to remote log to ockle from Amnesiac Amnesiac : /etc/syslog.conf *.emerg * *.crit /var/log/crit *.err

Re: IP prepaid accounting

2000-06-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2000-06-07 (19:18), Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: It should be possible to say say ipfw deny all ip from any to any exquota any as well as: ipfw deny all ip from any to any exquota guest How about: ipfw quota 1 config quota 10MB (and similar conversions as

Re: IP prepaid accounting

2000-06-08 Thread Luigi Rizzo
sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the two possible results when exceeding quota: ipfw action match pattern match-upto 20MB ipfw action match pattern deny-above 20MB where the first syntax does not match when

Re: IP prepaid accounting

2000-06-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Thu 2000-06-08 (11:43), Luigi Rizzo wrote: sorry if i lost part of the discussion, but why dont you just associate a quota with a rule and specify one of the two possible results when exceeding quota: ipfw action match pattern match-upto 20MB ipfw action match pattern deny-above

Re: 4.0-Stable/XFree86-4.0/syscons switching crash

2000-06-08 Thread James Housley
Graham Wheeler wrote: Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into graphics mode, and I can see the top part of the screen is

Re: 4.0-Stable/XFree86-4.0/syscons switching crash

2000-06-08 Thread Graham Wheeler
James Housley wrote: Graham Wheeler wrote: Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into graphics mode, and I can see the top

Re: Path MTU discovery.

2000-06-08 Thread Jim Flowers
And fbsd will respond to other's queries depending on interface mtus only be careful if you are running natd. This copies the interface mtu on startup but does not learn the new value if it is reduced either manually or automatically. It can therefore respond with a to a query with a value

Re: 4.0-Stable/XFree86-4.0/syscons switching crash

2000-06-08 Thread Graham Wheeler
James Housley wrote: Graham Wheeler wrote: James Housley wrote: Graham Wheeler wrote: Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up completely and has to be power-cycled. It does

Re: if_dc in v4.0 - Forcing store and forward?

2000-06-08 Thread Dennis
At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote: Peter Wemm wrote: I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on all

Re: syslog do not want to remote log

2000-06-08 Thread Doug White
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Johan Kruger wrote: I started syslogd on Amnesiac with : syslogd -d and i get Logging to CONSOLE /dev/console 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X WALL: 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 X FILE: /var/log/crit 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3

RE: Path MTU discovery.

2000-06-08 Thread Nate Williams
Just learning about this: I can see the advantages but does anything use it? Sure, TCP uses it. So... thinking about what this means for firewalls and natd. If we block all incoming ICMP's across the firewall The moral of the story is don't block *ALL* incoming ICMP's across the

Re: SVR4 Emulation [was Re: iBCS status?]

2000-06-08 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. So does this mean that SVR4-compliant programs must be dynamically-linked? Yes. The specification says that statically-linked programs are not compliant. Is there any recommendations on how an OS should supply an

Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. Thks Wilko -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Matthew Jacob
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rlist.h !!! help !!!

2000-06-08 Thread Nathan
I have several programs that use rlist.h (for various reasons ) and I cannot find it in FreeBSD 4.0 ! (mainly for swap info ) Has it been droped ? I know that the kernel/sys/rlist.h has been droped but does affect the /usr/include/sys/rlist.h ? If it has been dropped what do I use instead ???

RE: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Nicole Harrington.
On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. Thks Wilko I have good experiences so far

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 11:57:25AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: fl == Florins? Yep! -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: if_dc in v4.0 - Forcing store and forward?

2000-06-08 Thread sthaug
I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on all of the systems above. ... Store and forward mode introduces a

Re: ACE wrappers woes on 4.x-stable (pthreads)

2000-06-08 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Russell L. Carter wrote: |can someone take a look at this? |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current |i'm totally lost at this point Multithreaded C++ exceptions have been

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Nicole Harrington. wrote: On 08-Jun-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. Thks

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Re: ACE wrappers woes on 4.x-stable (pthreads)

2000-06-08 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Max Khon wrote: hi, there! On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Russell L. Carter wrote: |can someone take a look at this? |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current |i'm totally lost at this point

Re: ACE wrappers woes on 4.x-stable (pthreads)

2000-06-08 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Max Khon wrote: Multithreaded C++ exceptions have been broken since about August '99. Use the macros if you need exceptions with ACE/TAO. That's not a solution for me -- I want to port some app that uses ACE + TAO and does not use ACE exceptions macros.

Re: ACE wrappers woes on 4.x-stable (pthreads)

2000-06-08 Thread Russell L. Carter
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Re: It's worth !

2000-06-08 Thread Carlos Fraga
A site that pays you to receive some e-mails. No more than that. Nothing to buy, just to receive the e-mail and click on the link to visit the site. Don't you believe it exists ? Yes, it exists. And I have already received a US$ 50,00 check. Will you say that you don't want some money ? It's

Stupid Bonzi program

2000-06-08 Thread Steve
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Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Wes Peters
Wilko Bulte wrote: I'm considering buying an Athlon based machine. Before shelling out the $ (well, fl ) I'd like to know what experiences have with Athlon and FreeBSD. And obviously which mom boards to prefer or keep away from. EPoX == trash. Avoid like the plague. ASUS K7v == good. --

Re: FreeBSD Support of Hot Swappable NICs

2000-06-08 Thread Sergey Babkin
Wes Peters wrote: Mike Smith wrote: Actually, there's still a *lot* of work that has to be done to make this work "right" - let me say two things only: "resource allocation" "interrupt routing" And that's just the start. When it comes to network interfaces, trying to

Re: kerneld for FreeBSD

2000-06-08 Thread Mike Smith
Mike Nowlin wrote: Not to mention "how much memory do you really gain by unloading modules"? Considering the price of RAM these days (although not as low as it was, but I won't be spending $650 US for 16M any time soon again), the few K that unloading a bunch of modules saves

Re: 4.0-Stable/XFree86-4.0/syscons switching crash

2000-06-08 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
I am running 4.0-S on a Compaq Presario laptop with a Trident Cyberblade VGA. I couldn't get this to work in anything other than 640x480 with XFree86-3.3.6, so I moved to XFree86-4.0 (and no, I'm not interested in mail from people who say that the Trident Cyberblade works for them in 3.3.6;

Re: ACE wrappers woes on 4.x-stable (pthreads)

2000-06-08 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: |can someone take a look at this? |seems that it's a flaw in 4.x pthreads implementation |under RELENG_3 everything works fine, haven't tried this on -current |i'm totally lost at this point Multithreaded C++ exceptions have

Re: if_dc in v4.0 - Forcing store and forward?

2000-06-08 Thread Mike Smith
At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote: Peter Wemm wrote: I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on

Re: 4.0-Stable/XFree86-4.0/syscons switching crash

2000-06-08 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
Much more distressing: if I switch out of X to a text mode console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, and then switch back to X, the machine freezes up completely and has to be power-cycled. It does first switch back into graphics mode, and I can see the top part of the screen is messed up, so it hasn't

Re: Comments on Athlon [motherboards] sought..

2000-06-08 Thread Coleman Kane
I have heard of a few problems with the k7m... but I don't have any firsthand experience with them. FIC on the other hand has made some pretty good motherboards, and are probably the last company that needs to be bashed as far as quality goes. ASUS and FIC are probably the two best mobo

Re: kerneld for FreeBSD

2000-06-08 Thread Coleman Kane
I personally, don't see the reason for having this sort of thing in embedded devices, either, a lot of which have just exactly what they need to operate in the kernel, leaving nothing to be loaded or unloaded. As far as the kerneld stuff goes, the kernel obviously provides us with an interface

Re: if_dc in v4.0 - Forcing store and forward?

2000-06-08 Thread W Gerald Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact same problem on all of the systems above. ...

Re: if_dc in v4.0 - Forcing store and forward?

2000-06-08 Thread W Gerald Hicks
Dennis wrote: At 10:48 PM 6/7/00 -0700, W Gerald Hicks wrote: Peter Wemm wrote: I suspect a generic chipset fault, or some design quirk that we are not working around. Note that the windoze drivers for these devices put them permanently in store-and-forward mode. if_de has the exact