Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Kip Macy
I don't think that this is an appropriate forum but I will put in my two cents nonetheless. At least as of a couple of years age MIPS was the most widely used embedded processor in the world. Thus, MIPS is in no way dependent on IRIX. Not to mention that Linux runs on MIPS.

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. Advisory locks are passed into VOP_ADVLOCK in each FS instance, and then each FS applies this by hanging the locks off a list on a private backing object. For FFS, this is the in core inode. A more

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: 2.Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. I'd vote againsts your implimentation suggestion for VOP_ADVLOCK on an efficiency concern. If we actually make a VOP call, that should be the end of the story. I.e either add a

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. I'd vote againsts your implimentation suggestion for VOP_ADVLOCK on an efficiency concern. If we actually make a VOP call, that should be the end of the story. I.e either add a vnode flag to indicate pas/fail-ness,

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Narvi writes: : Nintendo 64 uses MIPS. : : : Which doesn't matter all that much. MIPS cpus for nintendo could be made : by say MISP, not SGI (and SGI sold/is trying to sell MIPS). Acutally, the Nintendo 64 uses the Vr4300 series of chips from NEC. I think the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 12:23:00PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: I heard somewhere that Linux was released under a slightly modified GPL to permit the inclusion of BSD code. I assumed they did this to steal the IP stack. Most likely. Nope.

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? Given that they say they're dropping IRIX and going with Linux, I

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? Given that they

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? Given that they say they're dropping IRIX and going

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed?

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Brian McGroarty
--- Terry Lambert tlamb...@primenet.com wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Can you please site a reference for this, other than wishful thinking by the Linux camp? Here's one: http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,1015908,00.html But just about

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
I lost track of the quotes. | --- With the help of Veritas Software Corp., SGI will work to add | key features of its Irix operating system to the Linux platform. | Currently, Irix runs on the MIPS platform. Once SGI switches | entirely to Intel Corp.'s IA/64 platform, that will be the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
I lost track of the quotes. | --- With the help of Veritas Software Corp., SGI will work to add | key features of its Irix operating system to the Linux platform. | Currently, Irix runs on the MIPS platform. Once SGI switches | entirely to Intel Corp.'s IA/64 platform, that will be

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
These paragraphs are contradictory. It implies an end to MIPS. Nintendo 64 uses MIPS. It also seems a bit overzealous. No argument here. Perhaps they're just trying to float a few trial baloons in hopes of finding something popular/feasable. That was my take on things, since

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed?

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:19 PM + 8/16/99, Terry Lambert wrote: Begging your pardon, but: | --- With the help of Veritas Software Corp., SGI will work to add | key features of its Irix operating system to the Linux platform. | Currently, Irix runs on the MIPS platform. Once SGI switches | entirely to Intel

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Kip Macy
I don't think that this is an appropriate forum but I will put in my two cents nonetheless. At least as of a couple of years age MIPS was the most widely used embedded processor in the world. Thus, MIPS is in no way dependent on IRIX. Not to mention that Linux runs on MIPS.

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Ronald G. Minnich
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: For an interesting take on all this visit www.mipsabi.org Uh, that site is dead, as of the end of this month. See the first link (announcement). Precisely my point ... ron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. Advisory locks are passed into VOP_ADVLOCK in each FS instance, and then each FS applies this by hanging the locks off a list on a private backing object. For FFS, this is the in core inode. A more

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: 2.Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. I'd vote againsts your implimentation suggestion for VOP_ADVLOCK on an efficiency concern. If we actually make a VOP call, that should be the end of the story. I.e either add a vnode

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-16 Thread Terry Lambert
2. Advisory locks are hung off private backing objects. I'd vote againsts your implimentation suggestion for VOP_ADVLOCK on an efficiency concern. If we actually make a VOP call, that should be the end of the story. I.e either add a vnode flag to indicate pas/fail-ness, or

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread James Howard
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with Linux it's no longer BSD-licensed, it's GPLed. They would still be unable to recover post-viral changes and reuse them in their own XFS product. I heard somewhere that Linux was released

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: Would it be legal to strip the BSD license of say, inetd and put a GPL on it? Many in the Linux community seem to think this is true but I thought that'd be just as bad as my BSD licensed GCC

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, David Scheidt wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: Would it be legal to strip the BSD license of say, inetd and put a GPL on it? Many in the Linux community seem to think this is true but I thought

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:27 -0700 Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if they were to simply put a BSD license on the code, then everyone would be happy, and there wouldn't be any of the dual-license confusion. It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:38:17 -0700 Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the GPL does is require that full source for the program be included with the program, and that full source, in my example, would include a BSD-licensed XFS module. It also requires that the GPL be

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Leif Neland
[Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say "Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source"? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say "Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source"? Yes, you can do that; it's required for source to be "easily available" in the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Kip Macy
After seeing this discussion go on for just a wee bit too long, I have a couple of questions for the armchair lawyers to answer. Has anyone ever successfully enforced the GPL? (in other words, has anyone ever violated it then been sued over it?) If not, how enforcable is it? From the length of

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say "Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source"? Yes, you can do that;

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] Can we please get this discussion out of -hackers, and into somewhere more apporipate like freebsd-advocacy. -- Mike Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread James Howard
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with Linux it's no longer BSD-licensed, it's GPLed. They would still be unable to recover post-viral changes and reuse them in their own XFS product. I heard somewhere that Linux was released under

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with Linux it's no longer BSD-licensed, it's GPLed. They would still be unable to recover post-viral changes and reuse them in their own XFS product.

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: Would it be legal to strip the BSD license of say, inetd and put a GPL on it? Many in the Linux community seem to think this is true but I thought that'd be just as bad as my BSD licensed GCC

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, David Scheidt wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: Would it be legal to strip the BSD license of say, inetd and put a GPL on it? Many in the Linux community seem to think this is true but I thought

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:27 -0700 Mike Smith m...@smith.net.au wrote: So, if they were to simply put a BSD license on the code, then everyone would be happy, and there wouldn't be any of the dual-license confusion. It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with Linux

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:27 -0700 Mike Smith m...@smith.net.au wrote: So, if they were to simply put a BSD license on the code, then everyone would be happy, and there wouldn't be any of the dual-license confusion. It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:38:17 -0700 Mike Smith m...@smith.net.au wrote: What the GPL does is require that full source for the program be included with the program, and that full source, in my example, would include a BSD-licensed XFS module. It also requires that the GPL be

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Leif Neland
[Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Brian F. Feldman
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source? Yes, you can do that; it's required for source to be easily available in the GPL.

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Kip Macy
After seeing this discussion go on for just a wee bit too long, I have a couple of questions for the armchair lawyers to answer. Has anyone ever successfully enforced the GPL? (in other words, has anyone ever violated it then been sued over it?) If not, how enforcable is it? From the length of the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Doug
Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Mike Smith wrote: It doesn't work like that; once it's been distributed with Linux it's no longer BSD-licensed, it's GPLed. They would still be unable to recover post-viral changes and reuse

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] If a company sell or lease us a mailserver based on Linux, where we only have smtp and pop3-access to, can we say Hey, this is GPL'ed, give us the source? Yes, you can do that; it's

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Mike Pritchard
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Leif Neland wrote: [Regarding GPL] Can we please get this discussion out of -hackers, and into somewhere more apporipate like freebsd-advocacy. -- Mike Pritchard m...@freebsd.org or m...@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Terry Lambert
This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good luck, the SGI crowd are very Linux-oriented. Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:49:14 + (GMT) Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? SGI is plummetting to their

RE: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Alton, Matthew
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 17:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Tony Finch
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? That is not correct: if SGI only use code that they have full ownership of in

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Terry Lambert
I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is presently not well understood by any of the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) James Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd and also

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd and also mentioned that a great many in

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) James Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Terry Lambert
This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good luck, the SGI crowd are very Linux-oriented. Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Mike Smith
This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good luck, the SGI crowd are very Linux-oriented. I had some quite promising discussions with several of the SGI folks with regard to getting information on their new

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:49:14 + (GMT) Terry Lambert tlamb...@primenet.com wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? SGI is plummetting to their

RE: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Alton, Matthew
[mailto:tlamb...@primenet.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 17:49 To: tingu...@plains.nodak.edu Cc: howar...@wam.umd.edu; hack...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Bill Studenmund
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? Given that they say they're dropping IRIX and going with Linux, I don't

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread James Howard
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Tony Finch
Terry Lambert tlamb...@primenet.com wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? That is not correct: if SGI only use code that they have full ownership of in

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 13 Aug, Bill Studenmund wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote: Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? Given that they say they're dropping

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Terry Lambert
I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is presently not well understood by any of the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Terry Lambert
Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed? That is not correct: if SGI only use code that they have full ownership of in IRIX then they can distribute it

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) James Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd and

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd and also mentioned that a great many in the

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Kris Kennaway k...@hub.freebsd.org wrote: So, if they were to simply put a BSD license on the code, then everyone would be happy, and there wouldn't be any of the dual-license confusion. Unfortunately, by BSD-licensing the XFS code, SGI would

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-13 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) James Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu wrote: I did, they have a feedback form I filled out yesterday. I mentioned that and that if they dual licensed the code, it could be used by the entire free software community, not just the hip Linux crowd

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kenny Drobnack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? Yes. The BSD

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Jason Thorpe
On 12 Aug 1999 11:01:06 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This prevents you from relicensing BSD software under the GPL. It does not prevent you from selling an OS that has both BSD and GPL bits, as long as the GPL bits come with full source. If you have an executable

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jason Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12 Aug 1999 11:01:06 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This prevents you from relicensing BSD software under the GPL. It does not prevent you from selling an OS that has both BSD and GPL bits, as long as the GPL bits come with

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Tony Finch d...@dotat.at writes: Kenny Drobnack kdrob...@mission.mvnc.edu wrote: This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? Yes. The

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Jason Thorpe
On 12 Aug 1999 11:01:06 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no wrote: This prevents you from relicensing BSD software under the GPL. It does not prevent you from selling an OS that has both BSD and GPL bits, as long as the GPL bits come with full source. If you have an

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jason Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov writes: On 12 Aug 1999 11:01:06 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no wrote: This prevents you from relicensing BSD software under the GPL. It does not prevent you from selling an OS that has both BSD and GPL bits, as long as the GPL bits

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Mark Tinguely
This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good luck, the SGI crowd are very Linux-oriented. --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Kenny Drobnack
This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kenny Drobnack writes: : This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in : FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use : GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? The BSD license allows binary only

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Tony Finch
Kenny Drobnack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? Yes. The BSD licence requirement for acknowledging UCB

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Mark Tinguely
This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation into FreeBSD. good luck, the SGI crowd are very Linux-oriented. --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Kenny Drobnack
This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.gso.3.96.990811124754.24208a-100...@mission.mvnc.edu Kenny Drobnack writes: : This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in : FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use : GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together?

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-11 Thread Tony Finch
Kenny Drobnack kdrob...@mission.mvnc.edu wrote: This may be a stupid question, but what's to keep from putting xfs in FreeBSD? Is there something in the licenses that says you can't use GPL'ed software and software under the BSD License together? Yes. The BSD licence requirement for

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Chris Csanady
"Alton, Matthew" wrote: I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is presently not well

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Chris Csanady wrote: I don't know, but I came across this at SGI: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ It looks as though they plan to release it under the GPL. :( So? It can still be distributed with FreeBSD. How many people are going to want to modify this code

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Jamie Howard
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Chris Csanady wrote: I don't know, but I came across this at SGI: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ It looks as though they plan to release it under the GPL. :( This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Chris Csanady
Alton, Matthew wrote: I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt Dillon has written in hackers- that the VFS subsystem is presently not well

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Chris Csanady wrote: I don't know, but I came across this at SGI: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ It looks as though they plan to release it under the GPL. :( So? It can still be distributed with FreeBSD. How many people are going to want to modify this code

RE: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Alton, Matthew
: 'hack...@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite Alton, Matthew wrote: I am currently conducting a thorough study of the VFS subsystem in preparation for an all-out effort to port SGI's XFS filesystem to FreeBSD 4.x at such time as SGI gives up the code. Matt

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-10 Thread Jamie Howard
On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Chris Csanady wrote: I don't know, but I came across this at SGI: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ It looks as though they plan to release it under the GPL. :( This is why people should start emailing asking for a dual-license that would support incorporation

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