Re: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
He wanted a to be able to panic() a machine from console without being able to drop to DDB from console. I think this is because he believes that DDB is a security problem. :-) Well, I'm missing something: the beginning of this thread, so this may not be 100% relevant, but I've just had the

Re: StarOffice 5.1 (Sun version) on 3.3-STABLE

1999-09-19 Thread Peter Wemm
Lee Cremeans wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 1999 at 12:50:09PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, /kernel: shared address space fork attempted: pid: 281 /kernel: cmd setup.bin pid 281 tried to use non-present sched_yield last message repeated 1926 times Has anyone seen this

Re: seek to negative offset? kern/6184

1999-09-19 Thread John W. DeBoskey
Hi, I've been running the following patch (which uses discreet tests vs a common temp off_t variable). Would someone please consider committing either this patch or the one given in the pr? It doesn't really matter to me, but I would like to see this bug put to rest. Comments welcome!

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Shigio Yamaguchi
Doug wrote: possible. To my (albeit limited) knowledge nothing in the base depends on GLOBAL, so I would be one of those who would be calling for its removal from the base. Of course, a port of your program would be welcome, and in Nvi(1), more(1) and build system(bsd.*.mk) depends on GLOBAL.

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Shigio Yamaguchi
W Gerald Hicks wrote: imho, global (a fine software package) shouldn't have been in the OS source tree anyway. To me, the proper place seems to be in the ports collection along with many other development utilities. It seems that you misunderstand. Current GLOBAL(3.53 and earlier) is

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Shigio Yamaguchi
There are some types of software for which the GPL is the best license. In my opinion, programming tools of many sorts -- compilers, linkers, editors, assemblers -- fit into this category. Contrary to what some Tag system doesn't fit into this category? believe, we BSD'ers are not rabid

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Shigio Yamaguchi
Michael Kennett wrote: As the owner/author of a piece of software, you can distribute the source code under any license that you like (GNU/BSD/Artistic etc...). Indeed, there is no reason to choose just a single license under which you distribute your code -- it should be possible for you to

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Shigio Yamaguchi
Peter Wemm wrote: I think we should also remove the nvi patches as it contains global derived code. Since GPL is incompatable with the (bsd-style) nvi license and the global patches add code to nvi, then it would be better to remove the conflicting code. You need not remove it, because I

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Chris Costello
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999, Shigio Yamaguchi wrote: But GPLed command brings no problem, because the rest of the system just "utilize" it, not "use it. GPL is not applied to "utilize". So the rest of the system is safe from GPL. You cannot modify and incorporate a GPL command into a product

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread W Gerald Hicks
imho, global (a fine software package) shouldn't have been in the OS source tree anyway. To me, the proper place seems to be in the ports collection along with many other development utilities. It seems that you misunderstand. Current GLOBAL(3.53 and earlier) is BSD-style licensed and

Re: Kernel debugging questions

1999-09-19 Thread Assar Westerlund
Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nice thing about kadb is that it has a usable macro languge. Compared to ddb, yes. Compared to gdb, no. /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: DEVFS itself works fine however a subsystem it required to be a useful abstraction was vandalised and stripped out by some people who "didn't get it" and it has not yet been replaced by equivalent code. It seems more correct (to me) to state that

panic: vm_fault

1999-09-19 Thread Todd Backman
Greetings. I am having a little difficulty with one of my web/nfs servers and am in need of some guidance. I am getting the following errrors on this machine: -- panic: vm_fault; fault on nofault entry. addr: cc24a000 mp_lock=0002; cpuid=o; lapicid=0100 boot called on cpu#0

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: : : DEVFS itself works fine however a subsystem it required to be a useful : abstraction was vandalised and stripped out by some people who "didn't get : it" and it has not yet been replaced by equivalent code. : :It seems more correct (to me) to

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Julian Elischer
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: DEVFS itself works fine however a subsystem it required to be a useful abstraction was vandalised and stripped out by some people who "didn't get it" and it has not yet been replaced by equivalent

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Julian Elischer
as far as I know DEVFS itself is working just fine.. there was some problem with mfs and vn devices at some stage as they used 'dummy' vnodes that were set up to look like device nodes, but mfs and vn tried to use incestuous knowledge which was no longer true and crashed.. I believe that PHKs

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: DEVFS itself works fine however a subsystem it required to be a useful abstraction was vandalised and stripped out by some people who "didn't get

Putting fsck_msdos in the source tree?

1999-09-19 Thread Iani Brankov
Hi, I saw 'fsck_msdos' in the NetBSD sources. Does somebody plan to put it (or similar one) in the FreeBSD distribution? Thanks --iani To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 18:29:34 +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: He wanted a to be able to panic() a machine from console without being able to drop to DDB from console. I think this is because he believes that DDB is a security problem. :-) Well, I'm missing something: the beginning

Re: Kernel debugging questions

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 23:29:15 +0200, Assar Westerlund wrote: Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nice thing about kadb is that it has a usable macro languge. Compared to ddb, yes. Compared to gdb, no. I'd rather have adb's macro language. Greg -- See complete headers for

Sv: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Leif Neland
That was exactly the suggestion the original poster made in his PR. He also believed that assiging the PANIC function to a key is no worse than having the DDB function key. I think that's a valid statement. Sure, you can return from ddb, whereas you can't from panic, but any abuse

Re: Sv: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 20 September 1999 at 2:06:18 +0200, Leif Neland wrote: That was exactly the suggestion the original poster made in his PR. He also believed that assiging the PANIC function to a key is no worse than having the DDB function key. I think that's a valid statement. Sure, you can

Re: Custom boot.flp

1999-09-19 Thread Mark J. Taylor
Johan Kruger wrote: I mounted the boot.flp image and replaced kernel.gz with my own, for use of bootable CD. I don't want the default sysinstall ( presumably compiled into the kernel ) to come up on screen, instead i want a command prompt only. I will insert my scripts into .profile. The

Re: kern/13075 (was: Re: aio_*)

1999-09-19 Thread Jason Nordwick
And now for a wish: [ST_AIO stuff cut] If I understand what you are trying to say, then when real time signals are added, this will be unnecessary. You can get the completion of an aio_* call from the signal queue. -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: kern/13075 (was: Re: aio_*)

1999-09-19 Thread Jason Nordwick
Sorry forgot something: the Linux way of doing this is to fill in the si_band with information on what has happened. This sound acceptable and there is no need to be incompatible if the idea isn't too bad. -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Wes Peters
Shigio Yamaguchi wrote: There are some types of software for which the GPL is the best license. In my opinion, programming tools of many sorts -- compilers, linkers, editors, assemblers -- fit into this category. Contrary to what some Tag system doesn't fit into this category?

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Wes Peters
Shigio Yamaguchi wrote: Michael Kennett wrote: Does the license really matter? Surely the important consideration is quality of the code? I agree with you. No, the license really does matter if we want to keep FreeBSD FREE. We do. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Matthew Dillon
:you're on, but there are 2 sides to the argument. Isn't there some way :that it can be set up to *optionally* have permission persistence? : :If you would get past that point, then all the political problems that :remain are solvable. : :Whatever, let's please not get into an argument over

Re: GNU GLOBAL

1999-09-19 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
like a virus to everything it touches. For this reason, the FreeBSD Project has decided no GPL code will be included in the system itself, unless the Actually, that's not *quite* accurate. What we decided was that GNU code would be kept well-segregated from the rest, just to make it clear

Re: Multiple NAT alias addresses

1999-09-19 Thread Doug White
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: You know, natd(8) is not guilty, this is a bug in libalias(3) :-( I have made a patch for this and yet another bug and will send my patch for review to Brian Somers and Eivind Eklund. Please let me know if you would like to test these patches, and

Re: what is devfs?

1999-09-19 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: But it was to the subject on the Subject: line, Julian. We know what side you're on, but there are 2 sides to the argument. Isn't there some way that it can be set up to *optionally* have permission persistence? Seems like a devfsd using the file