On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 04:25:26PM -0400, John W. DeBoskey wrote:
The subject says it all... We have some code that scans files
backwards...
I've asked about it a year ago, see
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=487426+0+archive/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980726.freebsd-hackers
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Fumerola
writes:
: It took me 10 minutes of explanation for the reservation clerk to finally
: figure out just what the hell I was talking about. WC CDROM did the
: trick.
My clerk just started reading down the names. When I heard walnut
creek cdrom, I said
My clerk just started reading down the names. When I heard walnut
you should have asked him to read both names and rates, complete the
list and then "oh yes, mine was the 19.95 per night..."
cheers
luigi
To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, I'm going to start doing a bit of work on this
so as to enable the periodic output to be customised
I'll post my changes later for ppl that maybe interested
(these changes will still be useful for myself anyway)
I'll see if I can put all your suggestions in, thanks
for the feedback.
[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] removed from cc:, it's not a userlevel issue
any more ]
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 07:49:02PM +0100, Neil A. Carson wrote:
ext2fs in Linux already has some support for mount downgrading or forcable
unomunting (maybe) in the case of an FS error. For something like a
floppy,
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but opening for writing gives error
* if the file is open for writing, it can't
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Peters) writes:
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince someone it really is useful.
It should only take one, as long as the arguments made are not bogus.
IMHO Greg made some very silly arguments (or at
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote:
(I believe it got bounced due to my mistake in To: line.
sorry if you got it multiple times)
Hello, if this mailing list is inappropriate please tell me so.
I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon
[Cc's trimmed]
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
How 'bout "anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?"
+ file owner ( + root ).
Which processes can't root kill?
Zombies? :)
Otherwise I would be able to lock ~wes/FreeBSDmarkers and you
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
:[Cc's trimmed]
:
:On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
:
: How 'bout "anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?"
:
: + file owner ( + root ).
:
: Which processes can't root kill?
:
:Zombies? :)
ps shows the
Christopher Seiwald wrote...
Archie's mod to qsort:
| - if (swap_cnt == 0) { /* Switch to insertion sort */
| + if (n = 32 swap_cnt == 0) { /* Switch to insertion sort */
As Akira Wada points out, this eliminates the benefit of the optimization
in the first place, which is to let
Greg Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 0:11:23 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
Christopher Masto wrote:
I don't see the use for it.
:-)
The thing is SO obviously flawed, that I wonder how many marketoid
drones it took to make sensible people
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:28:20 -0400
Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I heard a rumor that freebsd runs on a sparc, but I dont see any backing
for that. Is it in the works?
FreeBSD does not run on the SPARC. I think they've been talking about it
for ... what, 5 years now... but it
(I believe it got bounced due to my mistake in To: line.
sorry if you got it multiple times)
Hello, if this mailing list is inappropriate please tell me so.
I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon reservation with
special discount, to get the following
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Actually, what needed to get updated was the hotel, not our web pages. :)
I just called them and they had apparently listed this under "Walnut
Creek CDROM", not the most obvious thing to ask for. That's why
queries have been either
I've done a bit more work on the VFS cleanup part of my diffs.
Unfortunatly I had overlooked some of the filesystems and they
were not compiling cleanly. (ext2fs)
http://big.endian.org/~bright/freebsd/in_progress/vfs-fhsyscall.diff
The fh*() syscalls are still being worked on, but I'd really
After rechecking all the jumpers it turns out that the supplier
had set the core voltage to 2.2V instead of 2.4V!
Interesting that the error was reproducible, if this was the cause of
it. The problem never varied from that exact point? I'd like to say
that I find that a
:
:Back around 1980, I overclocked my 5MHz z80 to 6MHz. It worked without problems,
:except that for-next loops in comal didn't exit as expected. That was also
:reproducible...
:
:Leif
In the early 90's I regularly ran 10 MHz 68000's at 20 MHz (which was
about the limit the dynamic
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince someone it really is useful.
Har! 8-).
I must say, I'm really amazed at some of the opinions that have been
voiced in this thread. Of course, that's all they are, and they show
the
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 48 /* Master, propagated to
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 48 /* Master, propagated to
Not to jump down your throat, or anything, but you seem to be
perpetuating some incorrct assumptions about both effect and
proposed implementation details, and they must be stomped. 8-).
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but opening for writing gives error
* if the file is open for writing, it
[Cc's trimmed]
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
How 'bout "anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?"
+ file owner ( + root ).
Which processes can't root kill?
Zombies? :)
Kill their parents. Eventually, you will get init to reap
The thing about well-intentioned but incorrect locking code is that
it will appear to work fine, until it trips over the one code path
where it forgets to lock some file that it should have locked. And
even then, the code will "work" just fine, until multiple processes
are accessing that
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of generating
the equivalent of function keys F1 thru F8. The desired goals are:
invisible to the syscons driver (and thus X11).
works in
I've added Tor Egge's "kludge" fix of adding
while (rtcin(RTC_INTR) RTCIR_PERIOD)
statclock(frame);
..to the beginning of clkintr() in /sys/i386/isa/clock.c, but when will
there be a genuine fix? Is this an Asus problem? We are two BIOS
revisions behind...would
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of generating
the equivalent of function keys F1 thru F8. The desired goals are:
invisible to the syscons driver (and thus X11).
works
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
That's Jordan, out doing that "CEO Club" thing again. The next time you
bump into Scott, throw him a body-check for me. ;^)
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this
Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
:Back around 1980, I overclocked my 5MHz z80 to 6MHz. It worked without problems,
except that for-next loops in comal didn't exit as expected. That was also
reproducible...
:
:Leif
In the early 90's I regularly ran 10 MHz 68000's at 20 MHz (which was
Wayne Cuddy wrote:
Ok, if you suggested the TCP_NODELAY option you were right. Once we set this
FreeBSD sent 25 msgs/second, Linux did 22 msgs/second and HPSUX did 15
msgs/second. (we TCP_NODELAY on all platforms)
Is the Linux Nangle algo broken/different?
It can be turned off by
Heh, I didn't prod him *personally* - we're not quite in the same
social circles as that (yet ;).
- Jordan
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
That's Jordan, out doing that "CEO Club" thing again. The next time
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
great.. I didn't see the original mail so I'll never know what he
said.
:-)
That's Jordan, out doing that "CEO Club" thing again.
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:09:33AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is
On 25-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote:
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of
...
You could just design the pad using a "keyboard wedge" so that it lives
on the same bus as the keyboard. This is well-understood
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Mark Newton wrote:
Matthew Dillon wrote:
The question I am putting to the group is whether it is "time" for us,
with today's large disks, to increase the system-compiled default
from 8 to 16 partitions. Instead of a-h we would have a-p
It makes
Sean Eric Fagan wrote:
The fact that Greg thinks it's necessary and desirable (and he has
considerably more OS experience than a lot of the people who have decided it's
a stupid idea) should alone say a lot for the idea.
I was waiting for someone else to bring up that point, because I might
Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Christopher Masto wrote:
I don't see the use for it.
:-)
The thing is SO obviously flawed, that I wonder how many marketoid
drones it took to make sensible people think it is actually useful.
:-)
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two
Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 08:25:59AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
I don't like restricting the breaking of mandatory locks to the
superuser. It could be restricted to specific users (say file owner +
root)...
How 'bout anyone who can kill the process holding the
On Tuesday, 24 August 1999 at 22:28:10 -0700, Sean Eric Fagan wrote:
In article 19990825113518.d83273.kithrup.freebsd.cvs-...@freebie.lemis.com
you write:
Correct. I lock a stripe at a time.
What people need to realize is that Greg is doing this locking in user mode.
As such, he has two
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 0:11:23 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Christopher Masto wrote:
I don't see the use for it.
:-)
The thing is SO obviously flawed, that I wonder how many marketoid
drones it took to make sensible people think it is actually useful.
:-)
What I would really like to do is to increase the number of
partitions allowed in a disklabel. I really dislike having to
mess with fdisk.
The system defaults to 8. sys/diskslice.h seems to imply that
you can compile up a kernel with a higher number.
it looks you also
'no buffer space' often comes when the output IFQ is full, which is
between 20 and 50 buffers. Are you sure you are seeing more than those
mbufs in use ?
It occurs when about 105/128 mbufs (94%) are used.
ok, that's reasonable, with 50 bufs in the output queue and perhaps a
matching
David Miller wrote:
Any supported cards in 3.2.x? The HCL pages don't list any:(
man ti(4). My Netgear GA620s work just fine. Many thanks to Bill Paul, as
usual.
This issue was addressed on the -network mailing list LAST week. Apparently
you didn't search the archives very hard. ;^)
--
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 04:25:26PM -0400, John W. DeBoskey wrote:
The subject says it all... We have some code that scans files
backwards...
I've asked about it a year ago, see
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=487426+0+archive/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980726.freebsd-hackers
In message pine.bsf.4.10.9908231303320.4060-100...@jade.chc-chimes.com Bill
Fumerola writes:
: It took me 10 minutes of explanation for the reservation clerk to finally
: figure out just what the hell I was talking about. WC CDROM did the
: trick.
My clerk just started reading down the names.
My clerk just started reading down the names. When I heard walnut
you should have asked him to read both names and rates, complete the
list and then oh yes, mine was the 19.95 per night...
cheers
luigi
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org
with unsubscribe
Ok, I'm going to start doing a bit of work on this
so as to enable the periodic output to be customised
I'll post my changes later for ppl that maybe interested
(these changes will still be useful for myself anyway)
I'll see if I can put all your suggestions in, thanks
for the feedback.
Cillian
[ tech-userle...@netbsd.org removed from cc:, it's not a userlevel issue
any more ]
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 07:49:02PM +0100, Neil A. Carson wrote:
ext2fs in Linux already has some support for mount downgrading or forcable
unomunting (maybe) in the case of an FS error. For something like a
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 03:44:32PM -0700, John Plevyak wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 02:33:48PM -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:I am experiencing reproducible crashes with FreeBSD (3.2-STABLE) on
:a K6/3-450 running on an ASUS P5S-VM motherboard. The problem is highly
:repeatable (happens
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but opening for writing gives error
* if the file is open for writing, it can't be
w...@softweyr.com (Wes Peters) writes:
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince someone it really is useful.
It should only take one, as long as the arguments made are not bogus.
IMHO Greg made some very silly arguments (or at
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote:
(I believe it got bounced due to my mistake in To: line.
sorry if you got it multiple times)
Hello, if this mailing list is inappropriate please tell me so.
I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon
[Cc's trimmed]
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
How 'bout anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?
+ file owner ( + root ).
Which processes can't root kill?
Zombies? :)
Otherwise I would be able to lock ~wes/FreeBSDmarkers and you wouldn't
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
:[Cc's trimmed]
:
:On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
:
: How 'bout anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?
:
: + file owner ( + root ).
:
: Which processes can't root kill?
:
:Zombies? :)
ps shows the
Christopher Seiwald wrote...
Archie's mod to qsort:
| - if (swap_cnt == 0) { /* Switch to insertion sort */
| + if (n = 32 swap_cnt == 0) { /* Switch to insertion sort */
As Akira Wada points out, this eliminates the benefit of the optimization
in the first place, which is to let
Greg Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 0:11:23 -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Christopher Masto wrote:
I don't see the use for it.
:-)
The thing is SO obviously flawed, that I wonder how many marketoid
drones it took to make sensible people
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:28:20 -0400
Dennis den...@etinc.com wrote:
I heard a rumor that freebsd runs on a sparc, but I dont see any backing
for that. Is it in the works?
FreeBSD does not run on the SPARC. I think they've been talking about it
for ... what, 5 years now... but it
(I believe it got bounced due to my mistake in To: line.
sorry if you got it multiple times)
Hello, if this mailing list is inappropriate please tell me so.
I contacted radisson hotels for FreeBSDCon reservation with
special discount, to get the following
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
Actually, what needed to get updated was the hotel, not our web pages. :)
I just called them and they had apparently listed this under Walnut
Creek CDROM, not the most obvious thing to ask for. That's why
queries have been either bouncing
I've done a bit more work on the VFS cleanup part of my diffs.
Unfortunatly I had overlooked some of the filesystems and they
were not compiling cleanly. (ext2fs)
http://big.endian.org/~bright/freebsd/in_progress/vfs-fhsyscall.diff
The fh*() syscalls are still being worked on, but I'd really
After rechecking all the jumpers it turns out that the supplier
had set the core voltage to 2.2V instead of 2.4V!
Interesting that the error was reproducible, if this was the cause of
it. The problem never varied from that exact point? I'd like to say
that I find that a testament
:
:Back around 1980, I overclocked my 5MHz z80 to 6MHz. It worked without
problems, except that for-next loops in comal didn't exit as expected. That was
also reproducible...
:
:Leif
In the early 90's I regularly ran 10 MHz 68000's at 20 MHz (which was
about the limit the dynamic ram
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince someone it really is useful.
Har! 8-).
I must say, I'm really amazed at some of the opinions that have been
voiced in this thread. Of course, that's all they are, and they show
the
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 48 /* Master, propagated to
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version 48 /* Master, propagated to
Not to jump down your throat, or anything, but you seem to be
perpetuating some incorrct assumptions about both effect and
proposed implementation details, and they must be stomped. 8-).
And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX
experience it takes to convince
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but opening for writing gives error
* if the file is open for writing, it
[Cc's trimmed]
On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:15:24AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
How 'bout anyone who can kill the process holding the lock?
+ file owner ( + root ).
Which processes can't root kill?
Zombies? :)
Kill their parents. Eventually, you will get init to reap the
The thing about well-intentioned but incorrect locking code is that
it will appear to work fine, until it trips over the one code path
where it forgets to lock some file that it should have locked. And
even then, the code will work just fine, until multiple processes
are accessing that file
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of generating
the equivalent of function keys F1 thru F8. The desired goals are:
invisible to the syscons driver (and thus X11).
works in
I've added Tor Egge's kludge fix of adding
while (rtcin(RTC_INTR) RTCIR_PERIOD)
statclock(frame);
..to the beginning of clkintr() in /sys/i386/isa/clock.c, but when will
there be a genuine fix? Is this an Asus problem? We are two BIOS
revisions behind...would
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of
generating
the equivalent of function keys F1 thru F8. The desired goals are:
invisible to the syscons driver (and thus X11).
works
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
That's Jordan, out doing that CEO Club thing again. The next time you
bump into Scott, throw him a body-check for me. ;^)
--
Where am I, and what am I doing in this
Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
:Back around 1980, I overclocked my 5MHz z80 to 6MHz. It worked without
problems, except that for-next loops in comal didn't exit as expected. That
was also reproducible...
:
:Leif
In the early 90's I regularly ran 10 MHz 68000's at 20 MHz (which was
Wayne Cuddy wrote:
Ok, if you suggested the TCP_NODELAY option you were right. Once we set this
FreeBSD sent 25 msgs/second, Linux did 22 msgs/second and HPSUX did 15
msgs/second. (we TCP_NODELAY on all platforms)
Is the Linux Nangle algo broken/different?
It can be turned off by
Heh, I didn't prod him *personally* - we're not quite in the same
social circles as that (yet ;).
- Jordan
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
That's Jordan, out doing that CEO Club thing again. The next time you
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
I
prodded Scott McNealy a couple of weeks ago about this, and he
responded...
great.. I didn't see the original mail so I'll never know what he
said.
:-)
That's Jordan, out doing that CEO Club thing again. The
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for
reading but opening
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:09:33AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be
opened if another process has it opened. some thing like
* if the file is
On 25-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote:
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 07:58:52PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
While going through old cvs commit log, I spotted this:
snip
+
+/* Please update doc/en/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml when changing
*/
#undef __FreeBSD_version
#define __FreeBSD_version
Hi,
I need to add a keypad to a product in development that will co-exist
with the standard keyboard. It will be a fairly dumb pad capable of
...
You could just design the pad using a keyboard wedge so that it lives
on the same bus as the keyboard. This is well-understood tech
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Mark Newton wrote:
Matthew Dillon wrote:
The question I am putting to the group is whether it is time for us,
with today's large disks, to increase the system-compiled default
from 8 to 16 partitions. Instead of a-h we would have a-p
It makes
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