Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems David Krinsky wrote: > I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't > gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me > like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. > > Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Yup, I use one: ast0: tape driv

Dell PERC LVD card (Power Edge Raid Controller)

1999-09-02 Thread Geoff Buckingham
Through a mis-order I have aquired a PERC card (Actually an AMI megaRAID) which I am happy to make available to anyone genuinly interested in working on a driver (This is the PCI RAID card that goes into Dells Power Edge servers if ordered in a RAID configuration) -- Geoff Buckingham Systems Ma

RELENG_3 and diskless booting

1999-09-02 Thread Greg Skafte
please followup only in hackers. I've Just cvsuped freebsd RELENG_3 as of this evening (~21:00 mdt) and using a rom built with etherboot 4.1b9 which has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months. Tonight I getting Searching for server... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.dd

Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread David Krinsky
I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide...this is screwy, and I r

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <199909012256.paa01...@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > : "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or > : whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. > > postmanp

Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems David Krinsky wrote: > I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't > gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me > like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. > > Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Yup, I use one: ast0: tape dri

RELENG_3 and diskless booting

1999-09-02 Thread Greg Skafte
please followup only in hackers. I've Just cvsuped freebsd RELENG_3 as of this evening (~21:00 mdt) and using a rom built with etherboot 4.1b9 which has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months. Tonight I getting Searching for server... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.d

Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread David Krinsky
I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide...this is screwy, and I

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Smith writes: > : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > : "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or > : whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. > > postmanpete > > which is b

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-02 Thread Marty Leisner
> > Didn't they actually kinda do this when they announced the availability of > Solaris source code, and then that didn't really seem to materialize the > first time around? Maybe my recolection of events is somewhat blurred... > I remember this (under the community source code license). But

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Chris Costello wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: > > I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. > > > > How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can > > turn it on yourself" > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the sou

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Ollivier Robert wrote: > > According to Nick Sayer: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > > Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux > way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far > too ofte

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-02 Thread Marty Leisner
> > Didn't they actually kinda do this when they announced the availability of > Solaris source code, and then that didn't really seem to materialize the > first time around? Maybe my recolection of events is somewhat blurred... > I remember this (under the community source code license). But

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Chris Costello wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: > > I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. > > > > How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can > > turn it on yourself" > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the so

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Ollivier Robert wrote: > > According to Nick Sayer: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > > Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux > way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far > too oft

Re: MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Barrett Richardson
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > Hi, > > IIRC some time ago there was a vivid discussion about ability to > change/set MAC address of Ethernet cards. I'm faced with similar problem > right now: when building high-availability configuration it would be very > handy to do MAC takeo

Re: MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Barrett Richardson
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > Hi, > > IIRC some time ago there was a vivid discussion about ability to > change/set MAC address of Ethernet cards. I'm faced with similar problem > right now: when building high-availability configuration it would be very > handy to do MAC take

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article you write: >> CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 >> Features=0x1bf >> >> Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware >> someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines >> out there

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Robert Withrow
sheld...@uunet.co.za said: :- Emotional arguments and matters of personal preference aren't :- helpful. The only emotional argumentation seems to be yours. A "technical" objection was made that it seems best for ports to create whatever resources they need, and not polute base distribution with

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article you write: >> CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) >> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 >> Features=0x1bf >> >> Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware >> someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines >> out ther

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Robert Withrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :- Emotional arguments and matters of personal preference aren't :- helpful. The only emotional argumentation seems to be yours. A "technical" objection was made that it seems best for ports to create whatever resources they need, and not polute base distribution with th

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 > Features=0x1bf > > Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware > someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines > out there. Indeed. In fact, if someon

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Nick Sayer: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > > Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux > way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge thi

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > > There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 > > > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > > comparable. > > My vote is to make the numbe

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Nick Sayer: > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far too often you see in some Linux list/newsgrou

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
> CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 > Features=0x1bf > > Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware > someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines > out there. Indeed. In fact, if someo

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
> This still doesn't entirely Oops. I didn't finish that thought again after the vi -r. I meant to say that even with a modifed kernel mount() call, there are difficulties getting all of the configuration possibities into the kernel propper. (Mount Options, What FS types to try, etc). - Ste

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 03:01:26AM +0800, adr...@freebsd.org wrote: > > The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on > > the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by > > one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or > > EXT2FS floppy, for

RE: Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread jhays
On 02-Sep-99 smc...@aol.com wrote: > Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working > under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? > > > Thanks, > Sam > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Nick Sayer: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > > Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux > way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge th

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > > There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 > > > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > > comparable. > > My vote is to make the numb

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > comparable. My vote is to make the number printed in parity with the number printed

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Nick Sayer: > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far too often you see in some Linux list/newsgro

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:51:49PM -0400, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > I had a configuration where I was logging from linux to linux which was > working. Now I have replaced the logging system with FreeBSD 3.2. > > I started the FreeBSD syslogd like this: > syslogd -a XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > > But I see no

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
> This still doesn't entirely Oops. I didn't finish that thought again after the vi -r. I meant to say that even with a modifed kernel mount() call, there are difficulties getting all of the configuration possibities into the kernel propper. (Mount Options, What FS types to try, etc). - St

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Peter Jeremy
Sheldon Hearn wrote: >I plan to add a user ``smtp'' with UID 25 and a member of group >``mail'', for use in running non-priveledged MTA's in FreeBSD. I'd support this. I think the GID should be 25 as well. David Wolfskill wrote: >I think the overall idea is good, though my tendency has been to

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 03:01:26AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on > > the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by > > one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or > > EXT2FS floppy, for

RE: Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread jhays
On 02-Sep-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working > under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? > > > Thanks, > Sam > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kurt Olsen
We have this for 586+ class machines: CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines out there.

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Milan Kopacka
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > > a delay loop. > > It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, > and its relation to the actual perform

Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread Smc659
Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? Thanks, Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > comparable. My vote is to make the number printed in parity with the number printe

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
> If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a > good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've > grown up a bit since then... Create /usr/ports/useless_linux_utils Add this and code for making the keyboard lights blink in time to whateve

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:51:49PM -0400, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > I had a configuration where I was logging from linux to linux which was > working. Now I have replaced the logging system with FreeBSD 3.2. > > I started the FreeBSD syslogd like this: > syslogd -a XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX > > But I see no

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Chris Costello wrote: > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. > > If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a > good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've > grown

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
It was there... when I added the code to calibrate the delay loops originally and added the DELAY macro, it printed out the callibration factor.. (DELAY was originally a spin loop) It wasn't called 'BOGOMIPS...' On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > There was such a thing in 386BSD an

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Karl Pielorz
Chris Costello wrote: > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. > If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've grown up a bit since then... -Kp To Unsubscribe: s

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes, I would. The way I interpret it, along with "useless blinking light", is as follows: BogoMIPS is but the combination of "Bogus" and an acronym for "Meaningless Indicator o

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: > I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. > > How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can > turn it on yourself" No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. -- |Chris Costello |Super

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Peter Jeremy
Sheldon Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I plan to add a user ``smtp'' with UID 25 and a member of group >``mail'', for use in running non-priveledged MTA's in FreeBSD. I'd support this. I think the GID should be 25 as well. David Wolfskill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think the overall idea

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Vince Vielhaber: > There was a patch posted on the freebsd.misc newsgroup the other day for I re-posted the patch for people not running -STABLE yes. > procfs that eliminates the need for the "hackery". It's supposed to be > already in -current and I don't recall if it's supposed to

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Mike Smith: > If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or > whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. "smtp", the first proposal is a better idea then. "mailman" (like it is used on hub)

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nate Williams
> There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I remember no such thing doing a 'bogomips' to compare against Linux. Certainly not in 386BSD. Nate > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > comparable. > > On Th

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Nick Sayer wrote ... > so long as > they don't break anything in the process. > > I would like to generate a number that will hopefully be reasonably > compatible with > the one Linux spits out. The best method I have come up with is to have > a similar > (the same?) count down loop in assembl

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kurt Olsen
We have this for 586+ class machines: CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines out there.

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Milan Kopacka
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > > a delay loop. > > It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, > and its relation to the actual perfor

Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread Smc659
Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? Thanks, Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
> If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a > good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've > grown up a bit since then... Create /usr/ports/useless_linux_utils Add this and code for making the keyboard lights blink in time to whatev

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay loop. It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, and its relation to the actual performance of the machine is very questionable. > We don't

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Chris Costello wrote: > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. > > If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a > good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've > grow

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
It was there... when I added the code to calibrate the delay loops originally and added the DELAY macro, it printed out the callibration factor.. (DELAY was originally a spin loop) It wasn't called 'BOGOMIPS...' On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > There was such a thing in 386BSD a

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Karl Pielorz
Chris Costello wrote: > >No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. > If we must have it, how about a port? - I'm definitely for the "this isn't a good idea" crowd, When I was using Linux, I thought it was 'cute'... I've grown up a bit since then... -Kp To Unsubscribe:

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes, I would. The way I interpret it, along with "useless blinking light", is as follows: BogoMIPS is but the combination of "Bogus" and an acronym for "Meaningless Indicator

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: > I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. > > How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can > turn it on yourself" No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. -- |Chris Costello <[EMAI

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Robert Sexton
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay loop. > We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely > cosmetic. > However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of them

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Vince Vielhaber: > There was a patch posted on the freebsd.misc newsgroup the other day for I re-posted the patch for people not running -STABLE yes. > procfs that eliminates the need for the "hackery". It's supposed to be > already in -current and I don't recall if it's supposed t

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Mike Smith: > If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like > "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or > whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. "smtp", the first proposal is a better idea then. "mailman" (like it is used on hub)

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nate Williams
> There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I remember no such thing doing a 'bogomips' to compare against Linux. Certainly not in 386BSD. Nate > > I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. > I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are > comparable. > > On T

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > jack wrote: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 marcel marcel 72192512 Jul 23 11:47 so51_lnx_01.tar > > > MD5 (so51_lnx_01.tar) = 347ffa68be6c1d7b89fd843591afb0d3 > > > > so51a_lnx_01.tar > > -rw-r--r-- 1 jacko user 70393856 Aug 31 15:47 so51a_lnx_01.tar >

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
jack wrote: > > Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > bro...@one-eyed-alien.net wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > > > SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your > > > > -stable is > > > > not recent? The fact that soffice runs setup aga

UCB removes advertising clause

1999-09-02 Thread Brian W. Buchanan
This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 To All Licensees, Distributors of Any Version of BSD: As you know

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Nick Sayer wrote ... > so long as > they don't break anything in the process. > > I would like to generate a number that will hopefully be reasonably > compatible with > the one Linux spits out. The best method I have come up with is to have > a similar > (the same?) count down loop in assemb

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Andrew J. Korty" wrote: > If it helps, I don't think you really need to unzip setup.zip. I > found that setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. makes the setup program run > just fine (because it actually does unzip setup.zip, but into a > subdirectory of /tmp). Exactly what I always needed to do. It can't f

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
> The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on > the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by > one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or > EXT2FS floppy, for example. The system administrator can also > specify default mount options

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay loop. It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, and its relation to the actual performance of the machine is very questionable. > We don'

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
> Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > bro...@one-eyed-alien.net wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > > > SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stabl > e is > > > > not recent? > > > > > > Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarba

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Robert Sexton
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay loop. > We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely > cosmetic. > However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of the

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: > > > > > You realise that this kind of stuff can be done in kernelspace, > > > > without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. > > > > > > Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. > > > Configuration is simple and can be

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > jack wrote: > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 marcel marcel 72192512 Jul 23 11:47 so51_lnx_01.tar > > > MD5 (so51_lnx_01.tar) = 347ffa68be6c1d7b89fd843591afb0d3 > > > > so51a_lnx_01.tar > > -rw-r--r-- 1 jacko user 70393856 Aug 31 15:47 so51a_lnx_01.tar >

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
jack wrote: > > Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > > > SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stable is > > > > not recent? The fact that soffice runs setup again and again dep

UCB removes advertising clause

1999-09-02 Thread Brian W. Buchanan
This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 To All Licensees, Distributors of Any Version of BSD: As you kno

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread David Greenman
> >> >> Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? >> > >I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need >this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic change, but one of the >things I hold over the heads of the Linux folks I deal wit

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Andrew J. Korty" wrote: > If it helps, I don't think you really need to unzip setup.zip. I > found that setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. makes the setup program run > just fine (because it actually does unzip setup.zip, but into a > subdirectory of /tmp). Exactly what I always needed to do. It can't

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic change, but one of the thing

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
> The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on > the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by > one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or > EXT2FS floppy, for example. The system administrator can also > specify default mount options

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
> Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > > > SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stabl > e is > > > > not recent? > > > > > > Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarball? Ch

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: > > > > > You realise that this kind of stuff can be done in kernelspace, > > > > without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. > > > > > > Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. > > > Configuration is simple and can b

CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nick Sayer
Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely cosmetic. However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of themselves evil, so long as they don't break anything in the process. I w

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread David Greenman
> >> >> Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? >> > >I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need >this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic change, but one of the >things I hold over the heads of the Linux folks I deal wi

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating > a delay

Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: > > Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? > I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic change, but one of the thin

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
jack wrote: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 marcel marcel 72192512 Jul 23 11:47 so51_lnx_01.tar > > MD5 (so51_lnx_01.tar) = 347ffa68be6c1d7b89fd843591afb0d3 > > so51a_lnx_01.tar > -rw-r--r-- 1 jacko user 70393856 Aug 31 15:47 so51a_lnx_01.tar > (libs are all libxxx517x.so) > requires jumping throught th

Re: L440GX+ Server Board

1999-09-02 Thread Luiz Morte da Costa Junior
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Luiz Morte da Costa Junior wrote: > > > > The onboard NIC works like any other Intel 10/100 using fxp0, adding a > > > asecond nic makes the onboard fxp1 (for failover purposes, I assume) > > > > I think that I don't have problem wi

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 adr...@freebsd.org wrote: :Then all you need to do is think of a sane way to chown console devices :(floppy, cdrom, etc..) to the user when they login? Perhaps an extension :to login/xdm/whatever kde uses ? You can do this in /etc/fbtab. You already chown the console for X log

Re: L440GX+ Server Board

1999-09-02 Thread Luiz Morte da Costa Junior
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Pete Mckenna wrote: ... > > > I have also put an adaptec 2940 in them and it works as well. > > > > What is the adaptec transfer rate? I have tested with a adaptec 80Mb, and > > it didn't work too. The chipset is the same the AIC 7896. > > I'm not sure what you are asking. I h

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread jack
Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > bro...@one-eyed-alien.net wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stable > > > is > > > not recent? > > > > Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarball? Changes whe

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: > > > You realise that this kind of stuff can be done in kernelspace, > > > without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. > > > > Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. > > Configuration is simple and can be easliy chan

CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nick Sayer
Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely cosmetic. However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of themselves evil, so long as they don't break anything in the process. I

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
> On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 adr...@freebsd.org wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: > > > > > > > I provided a solution via send-pr (bin/11031) over four months ago, > > > > which is, in my opinion, superior in many ways to this sysctl >

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