Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Amancio Hasty
I would start by using a java gui tool to design the look and feel of the xmailer and allow the application to load java classes or lets call them plug-ins. There is lots of stuff available for java including good design patterns and methodologies. Once the overall design is completed then

Re: More press

1999-09-10 Thread Dirk GOUDERS
There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD: http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html Hmm, can't find that sweet thing -- typo? Dirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: It is other way around. I don't want half of FreeBSD binaries linked with libc.so.3 and half is linked with libc.so.4. Recompile. You have the sources. ??? What recompile? Why do you think I have the sources - there is quite a few binary-only FreeBSD

Re: upgrade issue from 2.2.x - 3.2

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:00:46PM -0700, Ben Jackson wrote: I just did that upgrade (been with freebsd since 1.1!) and everything seems pretty smooth. I did a 2.2-3.1 upgrade on another machine so I'm probably glossing over some aout issues (mainly that you have to find them and move them

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Sheldon Hearn wrote: I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning. Every change triggers a minor version bump, but only if the library is still backwards compatible with minor version 0 and the same

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Alex Le Heux
Hi, I once had a similar situation: I had wiped my disklabel. I forgot what it was exactly what I did, but it was something along the lines of this: - boot fixit cdrom - run a commandline like this: hd /dev/rwdnnn | grep "hh hh hh" (where 'hh hh hh' is the superblock magic number, I can't

NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
Hello, Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. ncplib isn't just a NetWare file system. It also provides services similar to original NetWare client from Novell. Below I'll put a short

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout - destroy permanent connection, ncplist

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 06:29:57PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

32+ signals: new patches

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Hi, New patches can be found on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~marcel/signal/ I'm currently running my system with the complete set of patches, including world. After solving how to do the integration and after creating the proper patches for alpha systems, this should be ready for inclusion. So, if

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as ports/net/nw-utils. An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Lutz Albers wrote: --On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote: VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) Forgive me my ignorance, but I'd like a quick response: what about multiple

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 05:24:00PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) All

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_n wfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the r est of it

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: You have the problem; you also have the solution. I don't want the complete history of development bundled in a library. That's my problem. Now tell me how do I solve it? Well, yes, this is a problem, and I cannot offer a solution. I only will say the following only

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: FreeBSD 4.0 currently have a nice feature - libc compatibility with FreeBSD 3.x. That is, I can link a program build on 3.x with the libc build from src/lib/libc on -current, either dynamically or statically. I also can do it in other way around. I _use_ this feature

RE: CS Project

1999-09-10 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 09-Sep-99 Jason Young wrote: After some thought, I think the mount option idea is best. I hadn't thought of that before. One might want to apply different procfs security policies to different mounts of procfs, especially in a jail()

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Yes, that's acceptable. But mount_nwfs require libncp.so and this means that ncp library sources will be also required. So KLD, mount_nwfs and libncp should go into source tree and other utilities can be a port. Other thoughts ? I'm

Endless loop in libpcap 2.2.x/3.x/-current

1999-09-10 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Hi ... We are running a system where we use the libpcap to capture packets from an ethernet device. We've been observing a problem where the monitor program goes into an endless loop and spins for ever. I've compiled the program with debugging on and observed that the call-back function is

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Boris Popov wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? ncpurge - purge specified salvagable files, From a user perspective, is

Re: dropped connections (fwd)

1999-09-10 Thread Max Khon
hi, there ee does the same. The reason is that the program does not check for EOF on stdin, it continuously loops. It's a bug in the program. The thing that could have been changed is a signal from the shell that is no longer sent or so. The problem is the program, not the OS. It might

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Robert Sexton
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 10:26:26AM +0200, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, I once had a similar situation: I had wiped my disklabel. Useful help deleted I know its easy to suggest somebody else do things, but turning this into software might make for a very handy salvage tool, without a lot of work

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: :Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail) :all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just :fetch mail from INBOX). Pine does IMAP just fine. I used to use it to read mail on box

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? I'm working on this (currently only queries). NDS

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Julian Elischer
At least one person has already written this program... THeey have mentionned this in the hackers list so maybe a search of the list may turn something up.. withing th last 2 years from memory. Julian On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 10:26:26AM +0200, Alex

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 09:51:50AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: At least one person has already written this program... THeey have mentionned this in the hackers list so maybe a search of the list may turn something up.. withing th last 2 years from memory. Julian It's on my TODO

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:08:40 +0930, "Daniel O'Connor" wrote: "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) Yow! I had no idea it was so large! I have an (as yet

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Parag Patel wrote: I have an (as yet still incomplete) full-screen text-editor library I wrote a long time ago - in C++ even - that supports (on a terminal using termlib but not curses) full-screen editing, simultaneous "live" multiple overlapping windows/views of

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:07:12 EDT, "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Gaah - another big line-editing library! My editor's even smaller than libedit!

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : At least one person has already written this program... I wrote one, but didn't post it. Someone else wrote one and did post it. It really is bog simple to get a good first guess. Harder to get it perfect. Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Gnu Also /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Perl,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Daniel O'Connor" writes: : Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the : kernel bits in the tree. Since all this stuff depends on being in sync, : the only reasonable way to do this is to put it in the tree. : : Why? What kernel code

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote: :fetch mail from INBOX). Pine does IMAP just fine. I used to use it to read mail on box a, with incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c. Now I just forward everything to one account and procmail it all. Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable

Re: 3.2-STABLE SMP system not SMP'ing

1999-09-10 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote: It looks like something ate your attachments. Try setting all the values that mtable reports on. sheepish I think I just forgot them. / I uncommented options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs options NBUS=4 # number of

NAT speed - part 1.

1999-09-10 Thread Ugen Antsilevitch
Good day. This is part one of what is (hopefully) will be my long and hard look in the IP routing in FreeBSD as we know it. I must admit that i am out of shape on many subjects and so much of this data may be wrong because of me doing the Wrong Thing. Anyway - these are the compressed results of

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kevin Doherty
And thus spake Matthew N. Dodd, on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Kevin? :) Bleah, one thing at a time :) Once I finish with my

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote: :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then.. :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it :could do what xfmail can) In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it will ask you for the server name to add. I

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On 10-Sep-99 Daniel J. O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote: :Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub folder support in it then.. :Haveing multiple accounts on different machines would be nice too (then it :could do what xfmail can) In 'Incoming Folders' type 'a' and it

Re: More press

1999-09-10 Thread Wes Peters
Dirk GOUDERS wrote: There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD: http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html Hmm, can't find that sweet thing -- typo? Nope, it worked fine for me. Given how short it is, this article

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tend to agree. If we bring in all of this stuff (even though I appreciate it's very useful) we should also bring in samba into the base tree by symmetry. Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: Thats the idea. Once Boris gets a chance to finish cifsfs the plan is to import it into the tree the same as the Netware client stuff. Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Okay. If that's the plan, then I don't have any objections. I do hate the idea of having to reimplement samba because of the licensing though - it already does quite a good job at SMB serving, it seems a waste to duplicate the effort instead

RE: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread John Baldwin
On 09-Sep-99 Andrew Reilly wrote: XFMail isn't acceptable, because I've got 130M of mbox mail boxes in a deep directory hierarchy, and I'd like to keep them that way. The last time I looked at XFMail it insisted on an un-nested mh-directory style of mailbox. Is it still the case? It

Re: mbuf shortage situations

1999-09-10 Thread Stas Kisel
From ja...@puck.nether.net Thu Sep 9 18:10:06 1999 I am creating about 100 icmp sockets, and as they are created, allocate a very large SO_RCVBUF: (void)setsockopt(localstruct-icmp_s, SOL_SOCKET, SO_RCVBUF, (char *)hold, sizeof(hold)); This can be a part of

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Lutz Albers
--On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote: On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote: VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some packages that handle things better. (I'm still

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Amancio Hasty
I would start by using a java gui tool to design the look and feel of the xmailer and allow the application to load java classes or lets call them plug-ins. There is lots of stuff available for java including good design patterns and methodologies. Once the overall design is completed then

Re: More press

1999-09-10 Thread Dirk GOUDERS
There is a short but sweet[1] article on ZDNet today regarding FreeBSD: http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,3656,2324624,00.html Hmm, can't find that sweet thing -- typo? Dirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: It is other way around. I don't want half of FreeBSD binaries linked with libc.so.3 and half is linked with libc.so.4. Recompile. You have the sources. ??? What recompile? Why do you think I have the sources - there is quite a few binary-only FreeBSD

Re: upgrade issue from 2.2.x - 3.2

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:00:46PM -0700, Ben Jackson wrote: I just did that upgrade (been with freebsd since 1.1!) and everything seems pretty smooth. I did a 2.2-3.1 upgrade on another machine so I'm probably glossing over some aout issues (mainly that you have to find them and move them

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Sheldon Hearn wrote: I'm more tempted to revert to the major/minor versioning. Every change triggers a minor version bump, but only if the library is still backwards compatible with minor version 0 and the same

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Alex Le Heux
Hi, I once had a similar situation: I had wiped my disklabel. I forgot what it was exactly what I did, but it was something along the lines of this: - boot fixit cdrom - run a commandline like this: hd /dev/rwdnnn | grep hh hh hh (where 'hh hh hh' is the superblock magic number, I can't find

NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
Hello, Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. ncplib isn't just a NetWare file system. It also provides services similar to original NetWare client from Novell. Below I'll put a short

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout - destroy permanent connection, ncplist

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 06:29:57PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

32+ signals: new patches

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Hi, New patches can be found on http://www.FreeBSD.org/~marcel/signal/ I'm currently running my system with the complete set of patches, including world. After solving how to do the integration and after creating the proper patches for alpha systems, this should be ready for inclusion. So, if

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :)

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as ports/net/nw-utils. An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 04:58:52PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? IMHO, only the basic IPX/SPX functionality should be included into the source tree. Anything else could be available as

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Lutz Albers wrote: --On Freitag, 10. September 1999, 10:56 +0930 Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote: On 09-Sep-99 Nate Williams wrote: VM doesn't do HTML/MIME very well, although I understand in later versions of XEmacs they've incorporated some

Endless loop in libpcap 2.2.x/3.x/-current

1999-09-10 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
Hi ... We are running a system where we use the libpcap to capture packets from an ethernet device. We've been observing a problem where the monitor program goes into an endless loop and spins for ever. I've compiled the program with debugging on and observed that the call-back function is

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) Forgive me my ignorance, but I'd like a quick response: what about multiple

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 05:24:00PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: An IPX/SPX stack is already in the tree and past year made it more or less functional. Read: I fully agree with Daniel. Daniel also left mount_nwfs :) All

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Boris Popov wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_n wfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the r est of it

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: You have the problem; you also have the solution. I don't want the complete history of development bundled in a library. That's my problem. Now tell me how do I solve it? Well, yes, this is a problem, and I cannot offer a solution. I only will say the following only as

Re: 32+ signals and library versions

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Dmitrij Tejblum wrote: FreeBSD 4.0 currently have a nice feature - libc compatibility with FreeBSD 3.x. That is, I can link a program build on 3.x with the libc build from src/lib/libc on -current, either dynamically or statically. I also can do it in other way around. I _use_ this feature

RE: CS Project

1999-09-10 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 09-Sep-99 Jason Young wrote: After some thought, I think the mount option idea is best. I hadn't thought of that before. One might want to apply different procfs security policies to different mounts of procfs, especially in a jail()

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Yes, that's acceptable. But mount_nwfs require libncp.so and this means that ncp library sources will be also required. So KLD, mount_nwfs and libncp should go into source tree and other utilities can be a port. Other thoughts ? I'm

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Boris Popov wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? ncpurge - purge specified salvagable files,

Re: dropped connections (fwd)

1999-09-10 Thread Max Khon
hi, there ee does the same. The reason is that the program does not check for EOF on stdin, it continuously loops. It's a bug in the program. The thing that could have been changed is a signal from the shell that is no longer sent or so. The problem is the program, not the OS. It might

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Robert Sexton
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 10:26:26AM +0200, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, I once had a similar situation: I had wiped my disklabel. Useful help deleted I know its easy to suggest somebody else do things, but turning this into software might make for a very handy salvage tool, without a lot of work

RE: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount, ncplogout

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: :Does it do IMAP? I have only seen *1* emailer which does IMAP properly (xfmail) :all the others either don't support it at all, or treat IMAP like POP (ie just :fetch mail from INBOX). Pine does IMAP just fine. I used to use it to read mail on box a,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Peter Wemm
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 10-Sep-99 Boris Popov wrote: mount_nwfs - similar to mount_nfs ncplogin- creates permanent connection to a NetWare server without an actual mount,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Boris Popov
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Currently I'm trying to determine a reasonable set of NetWare utilities which should be included in the source tree. Is it possible to have utilities to query and modify NDS? I'm working on this (currently only queries). NDS

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Is there any reason to not have it as a port? The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Julian Elischer
At least one person has already written this program... THeey have mentionned this in the hackers list so maybe a search of the list may turn something up.. withing th last 2 years from memory. Julian On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 10:26:26AM +0200, Alex

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 09:51:50AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: At least one person has already written this program... THeey have mentionned this in the hackers list so maybe a search of the list may turn something up.. withing th last 2 years from memory. Julian It's on my TODO list,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: The only possible candidate for contrib'ifying I could see would be mount_nwfs because building it without the kernel source could be a problem, but the rest of it could be a port I think :) Thats like suggesting we

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Why? What kernel code does this need? The ncpfs kernel code for one. We're talking about less than 500k of code here. You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) If

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:08:40 +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Matthew N. Dodd wrote: You want to take the anti-bloatist stance you'll have to do better than that. Try libreadline for starters. :) Bah like I care enough to care ;) Yow! I had no idea it was so large! I have an (as yet still

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Parag Patel wrote: I have an (as yet still incomplete) full-screen text-editor library I wrote a long time ago - in C++ even - that supports (on a terminal using termlib but not curses) full-screen editing, simultaneous live multiple overlapping windows/views of buffers,

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Parag Patel
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:07:12 EDT, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Gaah - another big line-editing library! My editor's even smaller than libedit! text

Re: Superblock.

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message pine.bsf.4.05.9909100950060.1186-100...@home.elischer.org Julian Elischer writes: : At least one person has already written this program... I wrote one, but didn't post it. Someone else wrote one and did post it. It really is bog simple to get a good first guess. Harder to get it

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Gnu Also /usr/ports/devel/p5-ReadLine-Perl, which

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Warner Losh
In message 37d93d65.627a...@dons.net.au Daniel O'Connor writes: : Thats like suggesting we make the 'ipfw' command a port and leave the : kernel bits in the tree. Since all this stuff depends on being in sync, : the only reasonable way to do this is to put it in the tree. : : Why? What kernel

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Daniel J. O'Connor
On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote: :fetch mail from INBOX). Pine does IMAP just fine. I used to use it to read mail on box a, with incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c. Now I just forward everything to one account and procmail it all. Umm.. welll I'd like to know to enable sub

Re: 3.2-STABLE SMP system not SMP'ing

1999-09-10 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote: It looks like something ate your attachments. Try setting all the values that mtable reports on. sheepish I think I just forgot them. / I uncommented options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs options NBUS=4 # number of

Re: X mailers (was Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux ABI/SDK standards for Ope

1999-09-10 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Daniel J. O'Connor wrote: : :On 10-Sep-99 Jamie Bowden wrote: : :fetch mail from INBOX). : Pine does IMAP just fine. I used to use it to read mail on box a, with : incoming accessd via box b, and storage on box c. Now I just forward : everything to one account and

Wall Street Journal on Open source OS (9/10/99)

1999-09-10 Thread Sanjay Waghray
Attached is an article from the Wall Street Journal Online Edition. --- September 10, 1999 Beyond Linux, Free Systems Do Their Bit to Build Web By LEE GOMES Staff

NAT speed - part 1.

1999-09-10 Thread Ugen Antsilevitch
Good day. This is part one of what is (hopefully) will be my long and hard look in the IP routing in FreeBSD as we know it. I must admit that i am out of shape on many subjects and so much of this data may be wrong because of me doing the Wrong Thing. Anyway - these are the compressed results of

Re: NetWare client in -current

1999-09-10 Thread Kevin Doherty
And thus spake Matthew N. Dodd, on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:07:12PM -0400: Clean it up and add perl bindings to it. Thats something that perl sorely misses. Come to think of it, libedit could use perl bindings... Hummm... Kevin? :) Bleah, one thing at a time :) Once I finish with my

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