Re: so where is our press-release about MacOS X ?

2001-03-25 Thread Rich Morin
At 11:18 PM -0800 3/24/01, Dan Feldman wrote: You're right, there's no need to pick fights. But I'm just pointing out that there's no reason FreeBSD should work particularly hard to create the appearance of an alliance with Apple, when all they've done is use the source of some kernel components

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:18:43PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote: I tried to export this stuff in struct statfs, but ran into a problem: I'd need the complete definitions of fs_args in sys/mount.h, but I can't include, e.g., nfs/nfs.h because the

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Peter Pentchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010325 00:38] wrote: bikeshed type=question value="mostly stupid" Or could mount(8) invoke a couple of sysctl's to get a string representation of each mountpoint's mount options? /bikeshed That seems like abuse of an interface. -- -Alfred Perlstein -

Re: kern/23620: Fore PCA200E driver

2001-03-25 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Richard Hodges wrote: I hate to follow up on my own post, but I have not heard a word of comment, positive or negative... You're probably one of the few people that has the hardware to play with the ATM code in FreeBSD. This might account for your lack of feedback.

Re: kern/23620: Fore PCA200E driver

2001-03-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Matthe w N. Dodd" writes: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Richard Hodges wrote: I hate to follow up on my own post, but I have not heard a word of comment, positive or negative... You're probably one of the few people that has the hardware to play with the ATM code in

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Bruce Evans
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Peter Pentchev wrote: Only mount_foofs can reasonably know about the options for foofs. perhaps mount(8) could fork-exec mount_foofs(8) to print options for foofs. bikeshed type=question value="mostly stupid" Or could mount(8) invoke a couple of sysctl's to get a

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Ev ans writes: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Peter Pentchev wrote: Only mount_foofs can reasonably know about the options for foofs. perhaps mount(8) could fork-exec mount_foofs(8) to print options for foofs. bikeshed type=question value="mostly stupid" Or

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Boris Popov
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Peter Pentchev wrote: bikeshed type=question value="mostly stupid" Or could mount(8) invoke a couple of sysctl's to get a string representation of each mountpoint's mount options? /bikeshed This is not a bikeshed, but sysctl is the wrong interface to do this.

doscmd

2001-03-25 Thread Igor Serikov
Hello, Does someone maintain/develop doscmd ? It looks like there were no more commits since 1999... Igor. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: so where is our press-release about MacOS X ?

2001-03-25 Thread Walter Hop
[in reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 25-03-2001] In the meanwhile, why not ride their publicity wave a bit. After all, they didn't base their work on Linux! Yeah, but we could argue if this was a choice based on technical details or if FreeBSD was just picked for the BSD license (although I

Re: so where is our press-release about MacOS X ?

2001-03-25 Thread Rich Morin
At 3:52 PM +0200 3/25/01, Walter Hop wrote: Yeah, but we could argue if this was a choice based on technical details or if FreeBSD was just picked for the BSD license The NeXT work had been done on 4.3BSD, so both the code base and the implementors' background made the use of a BSDish

old business (was Re: Intel driver doc's Take 2.)

2001-03-25 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Dennis wrote: If the if_wx driver sucks, why not fix it rather than trying to coerce a mega-companies with a deep political structure to change is policies? But if youre not going to maintain it, dont do it at all. You cant stick it to users by deciding later that

problems with: /usr/src/lib/libc

2001-03-25 Thread Jochen Kaiser
Hello, (concerning freebsd4.2 Release) I am a little bit in panic: why are all my .o files in /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc and not in /usr/src/lib/libc ? I changed syscalls.master, created new syscall, made headers in /usr/src/include and tried to make the libs via make install in

Re: Patch to disallow the build of modules

2001-03-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxime Henrion writes: : Here is a patch to select the modules you want and don't want. : The patch is for /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile from RELENG_4. My patch is even simpler: Index: Makefile === RCS

Re: problems with: /usr/src/lib/libc

2001-03-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 08:09:31PM +0200, Jochen Kaiser wrote: why are all my .o files in /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc and not in /usr/src/lib/libc ? Because that is how our make framework works w/in /usr/src See the readme in /usr/share/mk/ I changed syscalls.master, created new syscall, made

Re: Patch to disallow the build of modules

2001-03-25 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:23:20AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxime Henrion writes: : Here is a patch to select the modules you want and don't want. : The patch is for /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile from RELENG_4. My patch is even simpler: Index: Makefile

Re: nmap 2.54B22 Permission Denied error

2001-03-25 Thread Robert Watson
One potential source of Permission Denied on a network socket for the root user is the ipfw system. Do you have IP firewalling enabled, using either ipfw or ipfilter, and if so, could those rules potentially be denying the packets being generated? If you have logging/counters available for

Re: Displaying options for current NFS mounts

2001-03-25 Thread Dima Dorfman
Boris Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not a bikeshed, but sysctl is the wrong interface to do this. Use VFSs/VOPs instead. This isn't a big problem with passing string from kernel to userland. I like your idea of using the extattr interface. It isn't a perfect match, since

Re: so where is our press-release about MacOS X ?

2001-03-25 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:19 PM -0800 3/24/01, Dan Feldman wrote: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 1 Apr 2000 SEATTLE - The FreeBSD Project, Inc. officially welcomed today the introduction of Apple Computer's Mac OS X. The next-generation operating system uses the TCP/IP stack of an obsolete version of FreeBSD's flagship

Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread Marc W
So, in a discussion a while back, it was established that file locking is basically broken under NFS. Does this mean that it is simply a REALLY BAD idea to put mail spool files on NFS mounts, or are there ways that programs like /bin/mail can correctly ensure consistency while reading in

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread Gordon Tetlow
Look for Alfred's commit of Mar 19th. There has been a *huge* overhaul of the nfs stuff and (I think) a working lockd. I haven't looked at it myself, so check it out for yourself. -gordon On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Marc W wrote: So, in a discussion a while back, it was established that file

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread Marc W
Excellent, I will look for that. However, in the meantime, on older systems (3.x, 4.x, etc ...), is the below assertion correct? thanks! marc. Marc W, San Francisco, CA Kiltdown -- a free email client for X www.kiltdown.org -- it's what's underneath that counts.

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc W writes: : Excellent, I will look for that. However, in the meantime, on : older systems (3.x, 4.x, etc ...), is the below assertion correct? I ran mail over NFS for a while, as well as using a mail program that didn't do locking to sort my mail. In both

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Marc W wrote: : :Excellent, I will look for that. However, in the meantime, on :older systems (3.x, 4.x, etc ...), is the below assertion correct? : You don't want to put mail spools on NFS filesystems. If you must, use the maildir format, ala qmail. David Scheidt

technical docs

2001-03-25 Thread Arthur Munn
hello, i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find some good documentation of freebsd internels, i am trying to get The Design and Implimentation of the 4.4BSD Operating System but for right now i am looking for some freely available docs on freebsd internels thanks :-)

Re: Locking and Mail spool Files

2001-03-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 25), Marc W said: So, in a discussion a while back, it was established that file locking is basically broken under NFS. Does this mean that it is simply a REALLY BAD idea to put mail spool files on NFS mounts, or are there ways that programs like /bin/mail can

Re: Intel driver doc's Take 2.

2001-03-25 Thread Wes Peters
Mike Smith wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Let me just pipe in a bit. Compromise seems just like the kind of thing marketing or legal would want to do. The problem is that _we_ cannot compromise because one cannot write a "half-way there" driver. It's a

Re: technical docs

2001-03-25 Thread Brooks Davis
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 11:48:46PM -0500, Arthur Munn wrote: hello, i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find some good documentation of freebsd internels, i am trying to get The Design and Implimentation of the 4.4BSD Operating System but for right now i am looking for some freely

Re: technical docs

2001-03-25 Thread Joseph Mallett
For a while I was working on an OS Development section for COTSE (www.cotse.com), but unfortunately we never finished it. What I can recommend is 4.4BSD DI, and (if you have the spendage, or have a friend who owns them) the MKM videos from www.mckusick.com. There's some _really_ great

rtl8139 driver.

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Sergeant
I currently have a Sharp pc ax20 laptop with an inbuilt rtl8139 nic. It works wonderfully well on my works 100 meg switched network, at home I have a 10 meg hub (can't afford a 100 meg switch yet) and it also works great for downloading off the net nat'ed off my adsl connection. Though copying

Re: rtl8139 driver.

2001-03-25 Thread Luigi Rizzo
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] I currently have a Sharp pc ax20 laptop with an inbuilt rtl8139 nic. It works i have an AX10, similar design i suppose, and it works fast and fine for me at 10megs. Are you sure the card isn't autoconfiguring for full duplex or something

making release without full CVS tree?

2001-03-25 Thread Alexey V. Neyman
Hello there! I just read FAQ on making release and have one question. FAQ says I must be having full CVS source tree (or be able to access it via CVSROOT), but I'm behind modem connection. So I'm curious why it is not enough to have a cvsupped src-all/doc-all/ports-all collections? And is there