Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't
have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build
this stuff. In a nutshell, use egcs to compile everything from the
following list: turbovision 0.7, qt 1.42, libh 0.1 (see below).
libh is the
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
IMO, DVD drives are probably best handled through the CD driver, and
Optical drives are probably best handled through the DA driver. The
CD driver doesn't currently handle writes, but it's a one-line fix to
change that.
From what I can tell, some
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Jake Burkholder wrote:
Nvidia cards are already supported. The GL xlock savers look awesome.
Really? Wow. The xscreensaver GL savers looked like crap, the xlockmore
ones worked for about oh two seconds, before slowing down to unaccelerated
speeds. This at 640x480x16 too.
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
Uh, no, that's the way it's supposed to be. They support every stupid
dongle and widget on the planet, remember? ;^)
Execpt this dongle happens to be reasonably useful and common, and ignored
by FreeBSD :^)
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On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Per Lundberg wrote:
I need a libc 100% compatible with glibc to make porting (from Linux)
easier. And, as a side note, I think both FreeBSD and Linux would benefit
of having compatible libc:s.
I seriously doubt this will make porting any easier. 99% of the porting
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Per Lundberg wrote:
You think so?
Yes.
I experience a lot of this when I try to recompile stuff for FreeBSD
(most of it are due to lack of a real getopt routine).
*sigh*
It's quite easily argued that depending on a *NON STANDARD* getopt routine
is a bug. AFAIK *ONLY*
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will
be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete?
Bah!
An 040 or 030 powered Mac w/ MacOS makes a decent web browsing, word
processing machine; it's an
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Alexander Voropay wrote:
glibc has better POSIX locale and I18N / L10N support :
- localedef(1) and locale(1) utilities
- nl_langinfo(3) XPG-4 function
- gettext built-in into glibc
Again this is just a handful of functions, that IMO are best not put into
libc. Take
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote:
You've gotta choose between the lesser of two evils. First, Qt 1.44 is
*not* recommended you should use Qt 1.42. Second of all, TT's support of
FreeBSD sucks, the FreeBSD port of Qt sucks. TT has enabled -fno-rtti
which causes problems for
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, eT wrote:
Hi, I noticed that my ld path was using the old libqt in /usr/X11R6/lib and not the
new
one I have in /usr/local/qt/lib.
That would do it too :^)
Problem I am getting now is libstdc++ problem: ld.elf complains:
libstdc++.so.3: undefined symbol
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html
A story on upcoming plans for the Linux 2.4 kernel. Since they're
going after a lot of the same performance goals we are, it's worth a
read.
It seems to me that a lot of the features mentioned
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On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after
receiving this message and again, no response. (I used [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy
of the port?
I really don't
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this
for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think
I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then.
Ehm, this isn't possible in the
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than
it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :)
Unless you've actually tried this on a Mac, you have no idea how much of
an understatement this actually is.
- alex
You
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
Can someone tell me how to make a cvs archive work for users that aren't
the owner of the archive, the way that it works on Freefall? I *am*
doing this for a cvsup maintained FreeBSD archive, but not freefall, and
I need to get one user, who is not the
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Don Lewis wrote:
Why not off_t, which should be portable and scale properly with the
maximum system file size. Then the only problem is figuring a portable
means of printing the result ...
sizeof() perhaps?
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On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Arun Sharma wrote:
A user program makes a system call with this string "cpu.system" to get
the current value of user/system/nice time etc.
How is this different from doing:
# sysctl -a | grep load
vm.loadavg: { 0.15 0.09
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
A possibly better alternative is to find a device which isn't
currently supported by FreeBSD and write a driver for it. This would
have the advantage that the work would also be a contribution to
FreeBSD. The question that I can't answer
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Michael Bacarella wrote:
Not to start a flame-fest or anything (but who doesn't love em?), I hear
the above quite a lot.
I'm under the firm belief that a decent sys admin can rub either system to
do whatever they want it to do. Not that I am questioning your abilities.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Mike Bristow wrote:
True; but linux has support for a bigger variety of soundcards
(my Win98^H^H^H^H^H^HEverQuest machine now has a Live! in it; supported
under Linux but not under FreeBSD AFAIK; so the other half of the disk
may turn turn into ext2 rather than ffs)
Well
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote:
Heh... You know, I started to type out something to the effect of,
"... space bar. FreeBSD has been mapping the Space Bar to the Any key
combination since about 1992 to get around the restrictions of modern PC
keyboards." But I thought there was
Hmm. So I've compiled the TenDRA port, and I'm toying around with it,
trying to get it to compile Qt (and perhaps gnu's libstdc++), but not
suprisingly it seems to dislike some of the more basic (QList and QString
and other template stuff) code in Qt, meaning even something as simple as
moc
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0500, Dennis wrote:
No. Keeping supported drivers up to date is part of the business of
distributing an OS. Thats what "supported" implies. The driver is out of
date. Noone is looking for a feature here. We just want it to work.
Dennis, dear Dennis. I
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:03:48PM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote:
If it becomes a
problem, the most expensive 10/100 nic you could possiably buy is less
the $100 bucks so worry about it then.
You've never tried to find a NuBus 100baseTX adapter have you?
About $150 a pop, new. The Asante
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:51:19PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Well... when you 'gzip -9' something, it just takes longer, it doesn't
sometimes corrupt your data (afaik).
Hmm. gzip seems to be pretty good about those things. I guess it's one
of the few GNU programs to be that way. :^)
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 02:58:40AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
I won't even to there...
Well, the only reason I mentioned it.. was that the pgcc folks don't seem
to be too delusioned about the dangers. -ON (N 2) is regarded as at
least possibly in danger of generating incorrect code.
Not
On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 09:13:15PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
So I am wondering, why the unices block mounting an already mounted
partition read only again.
Have you considered using ACLs perhaps? Sure it's not in -STABLE, but
it's a thought..
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:08:47AM +0200, Torbjorn Kristoffersen wrote:
Yes, I'm using the 80-conductor cable I got with the motherboard
(ABIT BE6 with HPT366 onboard).
Is the cable connected properly? The blue connector must be on the
motherboard end.. Are you sure Leenuchs is using ATA66
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:02:08AM -0700, Arun Sharma wrote:
http://www.suse.de/~bastian/Export/linking.txt
Has anyone done a comparative study ?
Not really, however even with the recent rtld patches.. KDE apps aren't
very quick on their feet.
This leads me to believe that the most room
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 04:31:41PM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
I guess it's fair to shove Linux deep into swap (as pro-FreeBSD
benchmarkers always do), but not fair to make FreeBSD handle a
large directory?
Well... no. This test did stress FreeBSD's ability to handle large
directories,
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:40:44PM +1200, David Preece wrote:
1-877-230-7268
Is anyone close enough to drive round and have a quiet word? Netiquette
for instance. Or asking for trouble.
Well if you're in the US, why not call him? The further away the better. :^)
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:43:44AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
ad1: 73308MB IBM-DTLA-307075 [148945/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100
If it's any help, I'm using that exact same drive currently and it's
sort of working. I'm having trouble with random panics on this system,
but I haven't yet
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:39:16PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
It's on an ASUS A7V133 mobo. The controller is Promise ATA100. The one
that I'm having trouble with is running in UDMA100. Is it possible that
UDMA100 doesn't work right?
Thoughts?
I imagine it's possible, but it would seem
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 07:42:57PM -0400, Felix-Antoine Paradis wrote:
Is /etc/sysctl.conf what you are looking for?
No, because that only holds the runtime tuneables.
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So I find myself playing more and more with KDE, and more and more
enjoying the nifty little hacks it does. But, most of the hacks depend on
shlibs, including the requisite libtool horrors. Anyhow, one of the more
"useful" features involves "pre-loading" a shared lib to replace a few X
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote:
No, there isn't. I don't plan to do anything more with the a.out
dynamic linker, as I consider it obsolete at this point. I'd
suggest making a script "run_aout" that looks something like this
(untested):
Uck.
BTW, it's generally not a good idea
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote:
Glad you liked the idea! :-)
Well imagine if Joe user gets a Linux binary or a.out binary to run.
Bam, it doesn't run, and one'd have to check each file, and unset the
variables. Or forgo any user-feedback. :(
Well, there is a different reason for
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
e, Paul Herman writes:
But, if you are gathering a geek lobby to convince Intel to have an
onboard geiger counter, you just might have a new member ;-)
"Cesium-137 inside"
Yeah, it does have a ring to it,
On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 10:31:22PM -0400, Joseph Gleason wrote:
Alright, I made a mistake. But I did read the man page. Where does it say
off_t is 64bits?
My mistake was not digging through the include files enough to see what was
going on.
off_t st_size; /*
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:26:54PM -0500, Leo Bicknell wrote:
If no one else has figured this mess out, I'll do it and write a
page for the handbook. If someone else has, please clue me in, and
if necessary I'll still write that handbook page. :-) It would be
very nice if it was simple to
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 10:17:16AM -0800, Wes Peters wrote:
I completely utterly fail to understand why some young developers attach
some sort of romance to writing code on an 80x25 screen, when all the
haxxors my age or older waited (or slaved away) for years, even
decades, to get
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:
Hi,
xls and xml are markup languages which means you need an
engine to render -- they do solve very nicely the document
construct , or grammar and syntax.
It would be great to have a word processing system based upon
XML, XSL and a low level
On Mon, 10 May 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote:
I am sorry . Isn't that a linux thingy ?? 8)
Well most of KDE is. But hey, if I come across something that is Linux
only, I try and commit a fix (as does the other resident FreeBSD nut
Hans Petter Bieker). If you've got a post-egcs -CURRENT, KDE
On Tue, 11 May 1999, Andreas Braukmann wrote:
Hmmm. I relly dislike the StarOffice GUI and never in my life
had real contact to WordPerfect. (AppleWorks - Apple Writer 2e
- MS WORD 4 (crap compared to AW2e) - MS WinWord 2 - Tex/LaTex
- MS Office '95 [still using LaTex for complex tasks, of
Out of a perhaps morbid curiosity, I'm somewhat interested in setting up
an IPv6 stack on my computer. From what I can tell there are two well
supported stacks. Kame and Inria, and both support 2.2.8, Kame also
supports 3.x. Has anyone tried to port either to -current? I tried
playing around
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
I already mailed Itojun-san about the status of the KAME/Inria merger and
hope to hear from him soon.
Well, I finally got the userland shit working!
This would make an awesome port, it compiles out of the box, and works
with bpf to do ipv6 in
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On 03-Jun-99 Chris Piazza wrote:
Just downloading the XFree86 source right now and I'm going to build it
overnight assuming it works. If not I'm sure it'll be fun (heh) to track
down.
Yeah.. Building X is a bit of a dog I've found..
Well
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On 03-Jun-99 Alex Zepeda wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
Yeah.. Building X is a bit of a dog I've found..
Well if you're interested in binaries the bzip2'd binary of XF86_SVGA
seems to be a little over 1 meg.
Hmm
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
Do they work OK?
MD5 (XF86_SVGA.bz2) = 2502eb1d8b48a052ffe831b147094fbd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1286643 Jun 2 23:27 XF86_SVGA.bz2
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Josef Grosch wrote:
I have done installs on FreeBSD, Redhat, HP/UX, and Solaris and I have to
say that Redhat is very confusing. FreeBSD does have it's warts but it is
better than Redhat. HP/UX and Solaris also have their problems, just ask
Nicole Harrington how she liked
Feel free, just don't ask me questions about it since I honestly don't
have time right now to explain to many hundreds of people how to build
this stuff. In a nutshell, use egcs to compile everything from the
following list: turbovision 0.7, qt 1.42, libh 0.1 (see below).
libh is the code
I propose an rtfm(1) command, and I've got some Perl code that
works. If people are interested, I will continue with it, and
write a man page.
[...]
(-s = simple, don't search sections 3, 4, or 9, and 'e' means
'exact', or 'use whatis instead of apropos')
If rtfm(1) is really for newbies
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Chris Costello wrote:
If rtfm(1) is really for newbies and other clueless people, perhaps it
should be made interactive. I mean, this whole idea sounds like it's
geared towards people who wouldn't know what sections 3, 4, or 9 are.
It'll probably have a lot of
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
RTFM isn't a newby-apparent term. Name it help(1).
Sure it is. Some hapless newbie wanders into #FreeBDS on efnet, and asks
an already answered question. Aside from a kick, and a possible ban,
they're likely to be met with a chorus of rtfm, which in
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
IMO, DVD drives are probably best handled through the CD driver, and
Optical drives are probably best handled through the DA driver. The
CD driver doesn't currently handle writes, but it's a one-line fix to
change that.
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Jake Burkholder wrote:
Nvidia cards are already supported. The GL xlock savers look awesome.
Really? Wow. The xscreensaver GL savers looked like crap, the xlockmore
ones worked for about oh two seconds, before slowing down to unaccelerated
speeds. This at 640x480x16 too.
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Wes Peters wrote:
Uh, no, that's the way it's supposed to be. They support every stupid
dongle and widget on the planet, remember? ;^)
Execpt this dongle happens to be reasonably useful and common, and ignored
by FreeBSD :^)
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On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Per Lundberg wrote:
Has anybody done a port of glibc to FreeBSD? (I'm not interested in
opinions about how poor it is or how evil the FSF are; I'm only asking to
avoid duplicate work. Thanks.)
Perhaps if you explain what it is you're trying to accomplish, there might
be
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Per Lundberg wrote:
I need a libc 100% compatible with glibc to make porting (from Linux)
easier. And, as a side note, I think both FreeBSD and Linux would benefit
of having compatible libc:s.
I seriously doubt this will make porting any easier. 99% of the porting
issues
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Per Lundberg wrote:
You think so?
Yes.
I experience a lot of this when I try to recompile stuff for FreeBSD
(most of it are due to lack of a real getopt routine).
*sigh*
It's quite easily argued that depending on a *NON STANDARD* getopt routine
is a bug. AFAIK *ONLY*
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Warner Losh wrote:
In message 19990719080712.a15...@holly.dyndns.org Chris Costello writes:
: getopt other than --foo-bar flags that everyone I know hates?
Not everyone hates them...
Sure, I don't hate them either... until I try and port something that
depends on them.
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
Isn't it more a question of whether a proper cross-build system will
be available within the time frame that m68ks aren't completely obsolete?
Bah!
An 040 or 030 powered Mac w/ MacOS makes a decent web browsing, word
processing machine; it's an
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Alexander Voropay wrote:
glibc has better POSIX locale and I18N / L10N support :
- localedef(1) and locale(1) utilities
- nl_langinfo(3) XPG-4 function
- gettext built-in into glibc
Again this is just a handful of functions, that IMO are best not put into
libc. Take
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, eT wrote:
Greets .. I decided to compile KDE-1.1.1 for my 4.0-CURRENT.
After compiling all (kde-1.1 and qt-1.44) I get the following errors when
startx'ing:
ld-elf.so complains about not finding these symbols:
__ti6QFrame
__ti7QObject
__ti7Qblahblahblah
I pressume
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote:
You've gotta choose between the lesser of two evils. First, Qt 1.44 is
*not* recommended you should use Qt 1.42. Second of all, TT's support of
FreeBSD sucks, the FreeBSD port of Qt sucks. TT has enabled -fno-rtti
which causes problems for
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, eT wrote:
Hi alex, thanks for the speedy response.
I can't find any 'fno-rtti' to start with in the
freebsd-g++-shared/static? So, I compiled it without that flag
anyway.
I will compile qt-1.42 and then recompile the kde sources and see what
happens.
Any other
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, eT wrote:
Hi, I noticed that my ld path was using the old libqt in /usr/X11R6/lib and
not the new
one I have in /usr/local/qt/lib.
That would do it too :^)
Problem I am getting now is libstdc++ problem: ld.elf complains:
libstdc++.so.3: undefined symbol
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote:
I know a lot of people like the ASUS P2B boards, but I've noticed a
tendency for the systems to reset occasionally when plugging in a keyboard.
I've seen this with both FreeBSD and NT, so I'm considering it a property
of the board.
If
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
http://features.linuxtoday.com/stories/8191.html
A story on upcoming plans for the Linux 2.4 kernel. Since they're
going after a lot of the same performance goals we are, it's worth a
read.
It seems to me that a lot of the features mentioned
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, kylee wrote:
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Oh yeah, and check out the jail code (sections 2 and 4, I *think* -CURRENT
only).
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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
I'm going to implement a large mail-box, with several hundreds of mail-only
users. They should never access anything besides their POP3 mailboxes and
change password via (SSLed) web interface.
So, I don't want to add all of them to /etc/passwd.
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Mike Hoskins wrote:
As usual, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
And as always a bloodless vegetarian way too :)
I just don't see any justification in hacking away at all of your software
to bypass the passwd database. What is gained?
- alex
You better believe that
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Markus Stumpf wrote:
I just don't see any justification in hacking away at all of your software
to bypass the passwd database. What is gained?
If you have 10+ users you'll run out of UIDs (see recent thread).
I find it hard to believe that handling 100,000 users
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
Prior to posting to -hackers, I had emailed him, I tried again after
receiving this message and again, no response. (I used gus...@alaska.net)
Is there a better way to contact this individual? Does anyone have a copy
of the port?
I really don't
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
I realize this. The comment stems from the fact the guy I am doing this
for would prefer FreeBSD for his Macs if the opportunity arose. I think
I'll bring it into work on Monday and install NetBSD over the net then.
Ehm, this isn't possible in the
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, James Howard wrote:
Yeah I know, it is just easier to download those chunks over the T1 than
it is over a 28.8. Which is what I was refering too :)
Unless you've actually tried this on a Mac, you have no idea how much of
an understatement this actually is.
- alex
You
On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
Can someone tell me how to make a cvs archive work for users that aren't
the owner of the archive, the way that it works on Freefall? I *am*
doing this for a cvsup maintained FreeBSD archive, but not freefall, and
I need to get one user, who is not the
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Don Lewis wrote:
Why not off_t, which should be portable and scale properly with the
maximum system file size. Then the only problem is figuring a portable
means of printing the result ...
sizeof() perhaps?
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On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote:
Yeah... isn't it time you Yanks got together and stormed that Trade Dept?
I mean, if you can get excited over a few wooden crates containing tea...
The federal agents carry sub-machine guns, this is less
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