Re: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)

1999-06-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 23 June 1999 at 9:12:12 +0300, Taavi Talvik wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: I am not fingerpointing here, not am I willing to. I just want to ask all developers to try and document at least the basic ideas somewhere in a manpage in order to make it

Re: ufs/ffs resize?

1999-06-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 27 June 1999 at 9:33:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another datapoint ot consider, it seems that Linux (at least the derivative version maintained by Alan Cox -- the other one :) ) has now grown an LVM system (probably à la HP or AIX). That's what I've been told yesterday

Re: environment strings

1999-06-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 23:32:59 -0400, Amol Mohite wrote: On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 5:54:29 -0400, Amol Mohite wrote: Hi! i hope this is the right list for this qs. I wanted t know where the environment strings i bsd were stored after a program execs another one. At the top of

Re: environment strings

1999-06-29 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 29 June 1999 at 5:49:04 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 28 June 1999 at 23:32:59 -0400, Amol Mohite wrote: What I want to know is the exact position of these variables on the stack. As I said, at the top. and if anywhere I can

Re: environment strings

1999-06-29 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 29 June 1999 at 5:56:37 -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote: On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: That's not true, Greg. I'm sure you of all people know that it (the composition of address space) is described in "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System,"

Re: pccard problems

1999-07-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 1 July 1999 at 13:08:11 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Indeed. Is it possibly interrupting on a line which something else is using? I've found a problem on my Latitude where it appears that the machine only has two interrupts free (3 and 9). If I put a modem on 3 and an Ethernet

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 3 July 1999 at 17:28:51 -0700, John Polstra wrote: I put a handful of pictures from this year's USENIX conference at http://www.freebsd.org/~jdp/usenix1999/. Hey, they're some of the best I've seen of USENIX. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers

FreeBSD locations (was: Pictures from USENIX)

1999-07-04 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 5 July 1999 at 0:12:55 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: Tim Vanderhoek wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 1999 at 12:15:02PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: read a bit about them. Same for the committers group, but at 165+ members that's going to be a somewhat larger, long-term project. :-) Did

Re: PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
[following up to -questions; -hardware and -hackers are not appropriate for this question] On Wednesday, 7 July 1999 at 15:47:29 +0900, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model 3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some

Re: Simplifying Vinum (was: ufs/ffs resize?)

1999-07-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 18:52:41 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think you'll find, once you get that far, that things are anything but trivial. I'm certainly open to suggestions, but consider: vinum -i /dev/something volumename Where does it insert it? What if the volume has

Re: Kernel Drivers

1999-07-11 Thread Greg Lehey
[redirecting to -hackers] On Monday, 12 July 1999 at 12:44:18 +1000, Anthony Wyatt wrote: Hi, I really don't know where to post this message, so if there is a better place please let me know. Well, to quote the frequent posting to this newsgroup, If the question is of a general

Re: Raid software

1999-07-11 Thread Greg Lehey
[moving to -questions; this isn't a technical discussion] On Sunday, 11 July 1999 at 17:49:13 -0400, Andrew Willis wrote: What Raid software is available for FreeBSD? I cant seem to find much information on this issue. I would rather not dish out lots of $$$ for hardware Raid. Any

Compromising a FreeBSD from inside (was: (forw))

1999-07-12 Thread Greg Lehey
People, how much attention are you going to get to this topic with a subject line like "(forw)"? On Monday, 12 July 1999 at 12:28:03 +, crypt0genic wrote: Have you all seen this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks, THC released a new article dealing with FreeBSD 3.x Kernel modules that

Re: Booting from vinum?

1999-07-18 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 17 July 1999 at 22:51:17 +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote: Hello! Is it possible to have a root partition on vinum'ed disk and benefit from mirroring? If yes, how do I do it? Not yet. It's on the drawing board. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers

Re: vinum is cool. anyone bitten recently?

1999-07-18 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 17 July 1999 at 15:07:12 -0500, Craig Johnston wrote: Well, I'm looking into doing striping and mirroring on a new webserver I am bringing up (3.2-stable) and I have to say, vinum looks very cool. It took me like half an hour to get it going from first contact. Nice job Greg --

How much memory do we need to install?

1999-07-19 Thread Greg Lehey
AFAIK, the minimum memory for installation is still 5 MB, and the problems people had with 8MB machines failing to install was a bug, right? What's the current status? Greg - Forwarded message from Thierry Herbelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19

Re: deny ktrace without read permissions?

1999-07-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 23 July 1999 at 22:12:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PR bin/3546 asks that `ktrace(1)' not be allowed on files that do not have read permissions for the user attempting to execute them. The intent of this change is to prevent a user from seeing how an executable with

Re: Which /etc-files do I need until vinum is initialized?

1999-07-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 27 July 1999 at 9:32:51 +0200, Alexander Maret wrote: Hi, I configured vinum (RAID 1) on a 3.2S System. As I want to mirror as much as I need to keep the system running (in case of a drive 1 failure) I mirrored /etc as well. At boot time (until vinum is initialized) the system

Re: adding to periodic/weekly

1999-07-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 28 July 1999 at 3:04:25 +1000, Sue Blake wrote: I want to add some maintenance tasks to be run weekly (maybe daily ones too). There seem to be at least five ways to do this: Just add it to the system crontab - Can run at a different time, if necessary. Leaves periodic

Re: Usenix 93 paper on hardware profiling of 386BSD

1999-08-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 7 August 1999 at 1:06:51 -0700, Arun Sharma wrote: Does anyone have a copy of Andrew McRae's Usenix 93 paper ? The URL: ftp://ftp.cisco.com/amcrae/hardprof.PS doesn't seem to be valid any more. On Saturday, 7 August 1999 at 16:27:39 +1000, Andrew McRae wrote: On Saturday, 7

Re: Kernel debugging questions

1999-08-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 19 August 1999 at 12:15:51 -0400, Zhihui Zhang wrote: I am using FreeBSD 4.0 and have two questions on kernel debugging: (2) After bootup, I try the following to debug the live system (after reading some pages of the book "Panic! Unix system crash dump analysis"): now4# gdb -k

Mandatory locking?

1999-08-22 Thread Greg Lehey
I've just found a need for mandatory locking in Vinum, and I'm wondering how to implement it. If I understand things correctly, our fcntl locking doesn't perform mandatory locking, though System V does if you set the file permissions appropriately. Questions: 1. Do we have some form of

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-22 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 22 August 1999 at 17:31:44 -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: Questions: 1. Do we have some form of mandatory locking? If so, what is it? No we don't, unless you count the ad-hoc lockout in the master/slave pty interface :-). 2. Would it make sense to implement System

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-22 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 22 August 1999 at 22:07:04 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:06:54 +0930, Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Correct. I suppose it's worth discussing what the default should be. Should they get EAGAIN or block? Obviously you'd want a way of specifying which

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-22 Thread Greg Lehey
program might want to open. Redesigning everything isn't an option. On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 7:29:32 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: On Sunday, 22 August 1999 at 22:52:33 -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:09:50 +0930, Greg

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 8:47:34 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: Why should it be made unavailable ? So that certain multiple accesses can be done atomically. You don't need that. You initialize a index to 0, and whenever the sector

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 9:47:40 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: Why should it be made unavailable ? So that certain multiple accesses can be done atomically. You don't need that. You initialize a index to 0, and whenever the sector

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 15:28:01 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 3:28 PM +0930 8/23/99, Greg Lehey wrote: I'm a little surprised that there's any objection to the concept of mandatory locking. In transaction processing, locking is not optional, and if any process at all can access

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 23:11:30 -0400, Christopher Masto wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 10:59:10PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: Dunno about that.. if you're using advisory locking, you know to say "lock the file, then read the data, do your calculation, write it out, and unlock". This

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 23 August 1999 at 23:27:27 -0400, Christopher Masto wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:16:21PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Christopher Masto wrote: Bleah.. I can't count the number of times I've seen idiotic code like: open file read data close file open file

Locking in Vinum (was: Mandatory locking?)

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
, Greg Lehey wrote: To write a block to a RAID-5 device, you need to: 1. Read the old data into a temporary buffer. 2. Read the old parity data corresponding to the data into a temporary buffer. 3. XOR the two, storing the result in one of the temporary buffers. 4. XOR

Re: Locking in Vinum (was: Mandatory locking?)

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 1:52:38 +, Terry Lambert wrote: I don't want to express an opinion about the need or otherwise for mandatory locking, but I would appreciate a teensy clarification of the problem domain: On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 05:43:45PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 24 August 1999 at 22:41:15 -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: It is clear to me that BSD won't do this. SysV and Linux have this feature. Linux runs everywhere that FreeBSD does and has better features too... so why run BSD at all? I assume you're talking about mandatory locking.

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 8:31:23 +0530, Biju Susmer wrote: All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be opened if another process has it opened. some thing like * if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for reading but opening for

Re: Locking in Vinum (was: Mandatory locking?)

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 24 August 1999 at 22:28:10 -0700, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Correct. I lock a stripe at a time. What people need to realize is that Greg is doing this locking in user mode. As such, he has two real options: 1. Implement a vinum-specific

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 0:11:23 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: Christopher Masto wrote: I don't see the use for it. :-) The thing is SO obviously flawed, that I wonder how many marketoid drones it took to make sensible people think it is actually useful.

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-25 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be opened if another process has it opened. some thing like * if the file is opened for reading, any one can open it for reading but

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 19:53:22 -0400, Christian Kuhtz wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:09:33AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 6:05:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: All the files under Tandem's NSK has mandatory locking. The file cannot be opened

Re: Mandatory locking?

1999-08-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 25 August 1999 at 18:25:31 +, Terry Lambert wrote: And how many programmers with nearly (or more than) two decades of UNIX experience it takes to convince someone it really is useful. Har! 8-). I must say, I'm really amazed at some of the opinions that have been voiced

locking revisited

1999-08-27 Thread Greg Lehey
After all the stuff that has been said on the last locking thread, I think it's better to restate the case than follow up. It's obvious from the messages in the last thread that a number of otherwise clever people have little understanding or knowledge of the concepts of file locking. I'm

Cheap link (was: Are the ethernet drivers time dependent?)

1999-08-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 28 August 1999 at 2:52:12 -0500, Kris Kirby wrote: Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 28-Aug-99 Kris Kirby wrote: RS232? RS485? VERY cheap and the later is at least moderatly resistant to noise Noise shouldn't be an issue. It's going to be handling "clean" data. By cheap, I mean $5

Re: locking revisited

1999-08-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 28 August 1999 at 15:16:28 -0400, Peter Dufault wrote: As a result, I argue that we should implement locking. The questions are: how? I'd suggest three methods which can be individually enabled via sysctls: - System V style. We need this for compatibility with System V. The

Re: Kernel debugging questions

1999-09-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 21 August 1999 at 15:37:40 +0200, Assar Westerlund wrote: Zhihui Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for your response. I can not think of those points myself. However, on page 7 of the book "Panic! Unix system crash dump analysis", it says that a debugger named kadb in SunOS

Re: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-18 Thread Greg Lehey
[including -committers for political correctness] On Friday, 17 September 1999 at 11:45:36 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:30:30 MST, Doug wrote: Would not the 'panic' option in DDB be enough to handle this, or am I missing something? He wanted a to be able to

Re: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 18:29:34 +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: He wanted a to be able to panic() a machine from console without being able to drop to DDB from console. I think this is because he believes that DDB is a security problem. :-) Well, I'm missing something: the beginning

Re: Kernel debugging questions

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 19 September 1999 at 23:29:15 +0200, Assar Westerlund wrote: Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nice thing about kadb is that it has a usable macro languge. Compared to ddb, yes. Compared to gdb, no. I'd rather have adb's macro language. Greg -- See complete headers

Re: Sv: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-19 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 20 September 1999 at 2:06:18 +0200, Leif Neland wrote: That was exactly the suggestion the original poster made in his PR. He also believed that assiging the PANIC function to a key is no worse than having the DDB function key. I think that's a valid statement. Sure, you can

Re: SCSI vs IDE with vinum

1999-09-20 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Saturday, 21 August 1999 at 11:46:18 -0600, Chad David wrote: I just setup vinum for the first time on a brand new server, nd I am getting what I think are strange results in performance tests with rawio. My SCSI drives

Re: Vinum/SoftUpdates query.

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Lehey
[following up to -questions] On Thursday, 30 September 1999 at 13:08:05 +0800, Trent Nelson wrote: Hi, I was planning on sending this to FreeBSD-newbies@, but due to the nature of the question, decided against it and sent it here. You would have done better to send it to -questions.

Re: Fun with vinum

1999-10-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 11 October 1999 at 9:46:08 +0300, Narvi wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 10 October 1999 at 19:33:44 +0300, Narvi wrote: Should you decide to use vinum keep in mind that you: a) reboot to make sure that whatever you just set up can

Re: aio_read kills machine

1999-10-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 October 1999 at 8:09:40 +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Steven Ames wrote: Could someone define what NMBCLUSTERS is and what it is used for? I've seen a lot of cases where increasing it (beyond the default 1024?) has helped systems be more stable, but what is

Unquoted mail (was: aio_read kills machine)

1999-10-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 11 October 1999 at 20:39:11 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:04:50AM +0930, a little birdie told me that Greg Lehey remarked What mailer are you using? It didn't quote the "From " at the beginning of the message, so David's message appeared as

Re: Search a symbol in the source tree

1999-10-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 October 1999 at 10:32:00 -0400, Zhihui Zhang wrote: Can anyone suggest me a way of searching symbols in the entire /usr/src tree? I normally use grep */*. But grep does not work recursively, right? Something like a small shell script may do this. Thanks a lot. I use etags for

Re: debugging

1999-10-15 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 14 October 1999 at 12:05:48 +0530, Srinivasan. R wrote: can you tell me how to debug an application with ptrace systemcall and how can i fetch the processor register values stored at that particular moment and how can i access the u-area structure members along with the address

Re: Search a symbol in the source tree

1999-10-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 October 1999 at 3:17:31 +0900, ?$B8EC+?(B ?$BE/O:?(B wrote: From: Jacques Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Search a symbol in the source tree Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:37:11 -0500 n On 18 October 1999 at 0:39, Tetsuro Teddy FURUYA

Re: CCD questions

1999-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 31 October 1999 at 19:53:51 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: On Fri, 29-Oct-1999 at 08:56:01 -0700, Doug White wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: I'm looking at the tutorial on building CCDs at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/formatting-media/x205.html I

Re: CCD questions

1999-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 30 October 1999 at 6:14:32 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Vinum is being maintained, and because Vinum will allow you to stripe your disks instead of simple concatenate them, which will probably result in better I/O rates. Some simple measurements shows ccd to be

Re: CCD questions

1999-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 1 November 1999 at 17:49:29 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: On Mon, 01-Nov-1999 at 08:36:35 -0800, Doug White wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote: ccdconfig manufactures a disklabel when you create the stripe, so you don't need to adjust the disklabel. The subdisks

Re: gdb and kld symbols -- how to (and handbook is outdated)

1999-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 29 October 1999 at 9:05:15 -0400, Robert Watson wrote: I've mostly debugged kernel modules running as lkm's, but decided to start up my debugger on code in a kld a couple of days, and needless to say the procedure is different :-). And unfortunately, also not documented in the

Vinum (was: CCD questions)

1999-11-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 29 October 1999 at 8:56:01 -0700, Doug White wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: I'm looking at the tutorial on building CCDs at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/formatting-media/x205.html I am the author of said document ;) It seems that this page

Re: Granularity of disk I/O

1999-11-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 2 November 1999 at 17:10:41 -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: It is said that the granularity of disk I/O is a sector. I read a little bit of the source code isa/wd.c, which I think is the driver of IDE disks. I find out that the disk can perform multi-block I/O sometimes. Does this

Re: How to use gdb to catch a panic

1999-11-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 9 November 1999 at 8:52:58 -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: I have set up an environment of remote serial debugging on FreeBSD 3.3-Release. I have a program that whenever it runs the kernel panics. Is there any way I can use remote serial debugging to trace this panic process

Re: How to use gdb to catch a panic

1999-11-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 9 November 1999 at 13:36:56 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: Zhihui Zhang writes: Thanks for your reply. What confuses me is that when I use commands "gdb" (enter remote protocol mode) and "step" on the target machine, the debugging machine takes control (it executes "target remote

Re: How to use gdb to catch a panic

1999-11-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 9 November 1999 at 16:04:34 -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 9 November 1999 at 13:36:56 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: Zhihui Zhang writes: Thanks for your reply. What confuses me is that when I use commands "gdb" (enter remot

Re: How to use gdb to catch a panic

1999-11-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 9 November 1999 at 14:41:23 -0800, Archie Cobbs wrote: Julian Elischer writes: uh archie, that's a whistle specific sysctl :-) Are you sure? We should check it in, it's very useful! On my non-Whistle -CURRENT machine I have: $ sysctl -a | grep debugger

Re: Severe problems with softupdates.

1999-11-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 11 November 1999 at 20:11:49 +, Josef Karthauser wrote: Hi guys, I'm still trying to recover my laptop from a really severe filesystem crash using softupdates. The machine hung due to a problem with power managment so it needed a reboot. Now fsck won't clean up without

Re: upcall

1999-11-15 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 13 November 1999 at 16:14:02 -0500, Clinton Xavier Berni wrote: Hello, How do I access a user level data structure from the kernel. In general, you don't, unless the user wants you to. Are there any Upcalls that I could use? No. What are you trying to do? The only way to

Re: Kernel debug assistance?

1999-11-15 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 11:03:04 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: I'm trying to track down a problem in 3.3-RELEASE (which I _think_ might be a linux emu bug that's crashing the kernel.) Anyway - I thought I might ask here for some kernel debugging assistance... I've got a

Re: Missing core dumps

1999-11-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 16 November 1999 at 14:45:26 +0200, Graham Wheeler wrote: Howdy all I have a program that occasionally catches a SEGV signal, but it doesn't dump core. And I really could use that core file, as I can't replicate the problem under controlled conditions. The program is invoked

Re: Set the baud rate on remote debugging

1999-11-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 16:46:50 -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 15:13:53 -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: Zhihui Zhang wrote... I have set up a remote debugging environment. But I think default 9600 bps is slow. I

Re: Set the baud rate on remote debugging

1999-11-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at 21:10:58 +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 16:46:50 -0500, Zhihui Zhang wrote: On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 15 November 1999 at 15:13:53 -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote

Re: bdevsw ??

1999-11-17 Thread Greg Lehey
[redirected to -CURRENT] Repeat after me: If I am running -CURRENT, I should be subscribed to -CURRENT, and that's where I should send my messages about -CURRENT. On Wednesday, 17 November 1999 at 9:53:19 -0500, Christopher Stein wrote: Could someone please tell me why bdevsw has

Re: whats up with vinum?

1999-11-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 21 November 1999 at 4:40:54 -1000, Richard Puga wrote: I am fooling around with vinum which I have set up in a raid 5 configuration under FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE. The trouble is that my machine keeps locking up under heavy use. If I try and "make world" it dies about 15-60 seconds

Re: Compile new kernel with MCA support

1999-01-17 Thread Greg Lehey
[moved to -current] On Friday, 19 November 1999 at 17:27:15 -0500, Jason Craig wrote: On Friday, 19 November 1999 at 17:32:20 -0500, Jason Craig wrote: On Friday, 19 November 1999 at 17:38:07 -0500, Jason wrote: Hello all, I have a few FreeBSD machines that I am playing around with now, and

Re: disassembling syscalls

1999-11-26 Thread Greg Lehey
[removing -questions; this is a technical question] On Friday, 26 November 1999 at 13:51:50 -0500, Marc Tardif wrote: How can syscalls be disassembled on BSD? So far, I tried using ktrace -tc on compiled code using the syscall I wanted, but the output from kdump doesn't look like asm. I also

Re: Inverting a gdb -k mapping?

1999-12-05 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 2 December 1999 at 22:32:44 -0500, David Gilbert wrote: I can grep through the vmcore.x file and find the offset of the string I put on the stack by strings -t x vmcore.9 | grep dgilbert_ ... but how do I associate that back with an address inside gdb -k? With utmost

Re: 3c589d w/ freebsd 3.3 works badly.

1999-12-07 Thread Greg Lehey
[Moved to FreeBSD-mobile] On Monday, 6 December 1999 at 16:12:49 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darren Reed writes: : How reliable should the ep0 driver be with 3c389d pcmcia cards ? I had no problems using 3.3 and my 3C589D, but I've only done minor stuff with

Re: Solaris 2.7 ufs file systems ...

1999-12-15 Thread Greg Lehey
[redirected to -hackers] On Sunday, 12 December 1999 at 8:34:51 -0500, David Bein wrote: Hi ... I have a PC with triple boot partitions setup, one of which is loaded with Solaris 2.7 (officially called version 7). I am wondering if anyone has any experience directly mounting ufs

Re: ATAPI tape support - how to format?

1999-12-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 13 December 1999 at 12:55:20 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: BTW, I have older HP DAT drives (4 8gb models) that have several YEARS of active use on them, and other than using a cleaning tape when the front panel "clean me" light flashes I've NEVER had ANY problem with them. This is

Tape reliability (was: ATAPI tape support - how to format?)

1999-12-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 17 December 1999 at 20:19:10 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 12:08:32PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 13 December 1999 at 12:55:20 -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: BTW, I have older HP DAT drives (4 8gb models) that have several YEARS of active use on them

Re: aout gdb in 3.x

1999-12-18 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 18 December 1999 at 14:51:59 +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: How does one compile a version of GDB that can read a.out files? I know there is a way of doing it but I have totoally failed to work out how to do so. I think you can do this

Re: Signal 11 during setup

1999-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
[moved to -questions; the lack of response on -hackers is understandable] On Saturday, 25 December 1999 at 2:40:25 -0800, Xavier O'Neill wrote: Hello, I presently have FreeBSD 2.2.8 on my system. I downloaded FreeBSD 3.4 Release and made two floppy images on newly formated floppies

Re: softupdates and debug.max_softdeps

1999-12-31 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 30 December 1999 at 22:34:04 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: That is interesting. So I guess the conclusion to this is, softupdates is useful for bursty IO, but not sustained because it can get far behind until it eventually reaches the point where the machine reboots silently. I

Better fixit (was: Why was rsh removed from the fixit floppy?)

2000-01-21 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 2:27:02 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: script. The script basically translates tar commands to cpio commands, which makes sense, since the cpio binary is a LOT smaller than tar. But there's no cpio on the fixit floppy... And there's no ifconfig on the

Re: Better fixit (was: Why was rsh removed from the fixit floppy?)

2000-01-21 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 21 January 2000 at 4:42:34 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: There's still space on there; what else could we put there? A copy of nethack to play while you're waiting for that fsck? Is it OK if we have the non-X version only? Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-22 Thread Greg Lehey
[adding -doc, which is more appropriate for some of the questions] On Saturday, 22 January 2000 at 23:06:41 -0500, Bill Maniatty wrote: Hello All: I have a student this semester in my Operating Systems class who would like to become a bit more knowledgeable about systems software. I

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 23 January 2000 at 11:48:39 -0500, Bill Maniatty wrote: Hello Jeroen: Jeroen Ruigrok (in response to Greg Lehey and myself): -On [2123 11:11], Greg Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 2) Choose a non-essential device with a simple preexisting driver. 3) Remove all trace

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 23 January 2000 at 22:35:53 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: I can't agree with Mike Smith that reading the code is adequate. It certainly doesn't apply to newcomers, but it doesn't even apply to seasoned hackers like Mike: the BSD style doesn't provide for adequate comments, and so what

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 24 January 2000 at 2:44:43 -0500, William A. Maniatty wrote: Hi There: Chuck Robey Writes: I know where Mike's coming from. Wait until the next guy posts on the list "I don't really know how to program, but please tell what 'C' is, and how to write a device driver". We had a

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 24 January 2000 at 2:28:23 -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, William A. Maniatty wrote: Both Chuck Robey and Mike Smith have some points, but that won't stop me from giving my opinion :-). Mike is correct that experience is key to being a solid systems software

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 24 January 2000 at 7:09:35 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Mike Smith wrote: I can't agree with Mike Smith that reading the code is adequate. It certainly doesn't apply to newcomers, but it doesn't even apply to seasoned hackers like Mike: the BSD style doesn't

Re: Learning the FreeBSD Kernel

2000-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 24 January 2000 at 10:04:10 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: -On [2124 08:01], Mike Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I can't agree with Mike Smith that reading the code is adequate. It certainly doesn't apply to newcomers, but it doesn't even apply to seasoned hackers like

Re: IBM releases JFS for Linux.

2000-02-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 2 February 2000 at 22:18:02 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: This came across the Linux/390 mailing list today, I thought it might be interesting for people: "IBM makes JFS technology available for Linux - Technology based on OS/2 Warp Journaled File System goes open

Re: IBM releases JFS for Linux.

2000-02-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 3 February 2000 at 19:24:07 -0700, Wes Peters wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 2 February 2000 at 22:18:02 -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: This came across the Linux/390 mailing list today, I thought it might be interesting for people: "IBM makes JFS techn

Re: JFS and IBM

2000-02-04 Thread Greg Lehey
apparently haven't noticed the war of words going on on http://daily.daemonnews.org/ on this very topic? I think this is going to be our most "popular", or at least commented on, article to date. There was also a discussion in -fs, so I'm following up there. Greg Lehey has downloade

[Oz-ISP] Cracking bigtime in the US?

2000-02-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 10 February 2000 at 7:16:18 +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: A report on ABC this morning said that there had been some major cracking in the US in the last 24 hours. Sites included eBay Amazon. Has anyone any further info? I haven't read this URL, but Matt is usually pretty

Re: bonnie still trustable?

2000-02-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 11 February 2000 at 10:49:24 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: PIII/500, 128 MB I'm wondering if this is trustable: bonnie -s 400 File './Bonnie.14321', size: 419430400 Writing with putc()...done Rewriting...done Writing intelligently...done Reading with getc()...done Reading

Re: How to fdisk/disklabel whole disk for FreeBSD from command line?

2000-02-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 27 February 2000 at 0:59:30 -0800, Doug White wrote: On Sat, 26 Feb 2000, Marc Frajola wrote: Hi... I have spent a bit of time messing around with the command-line fdisk and disklabel commands, and have been unable to setup a proper fdisk and FreeBSD partition label solely

Re: bonnie still trustable?

2000-02-14 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 15 February 2000 at 2:37:58 +0100, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: Greg Lehey([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 03:16:50PM +1030: On Friday, 11 February 2000 at 10:49:24 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: PIII/500, 128 MB I'm wondering if this is trustable: bonnie -s 400 File

Re: Filesystem size limit?

2000-02-15 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 15 February 2000 at 3:40:58 -0600, Joe Greco wrote: So I wanted to vinum my new 1.9TB of disks together just for chuckles, and it went OK up to the newfs.. S play.p0.s0State: up PO:0 B Size: 46 GB S play.p0.s1State: up PO:

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