into the IRIX version
of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed?
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resoloution doesn't really matter, but if it is
seen as an issue which needs to be addressed, the only value
which could reasonably require this is the modification time,
and there is sufficient free space in the inode to be able
to provide for this (there are 2x32 bit
in FreeBSD, it should; I haven't checked).
Of course, my ideal world would update all of the Makefiles for
all of the network utilities (including the ports) to know about
libresolver explicitly, but that's unlikely to come to pass.
Terry Lambert
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote:
Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate
changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version
of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed?
Given that they say they're dropping IRIX and going with Linux, I
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Terry Lambert wrote:
Has anyone mentioned to them that they will be unable to incorporate
changes made to the GPL'ed version of XFS back into the IRIX version
of XFS, without IRIX becoming GPL'ed?
Given that they say they're dropping IRIX and going
. The big volume for MIPS is embedded, or so
I am told.
For an interesting take on all this visit www.mipsabi.org
Uh, that site is dead, as of the end of this month. See the
first link ("announcement").
Ter
no source was attributed.
Either that, or press zealotry.
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this, but session ID's are not supported
over a single VC by all LANMan servers.
NetWare has the same problem, FWIW, as does NUC (a client FS for
NetWare).
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than
gold at the time. That's why all real antique tea cozy's have
functional locks.
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l the *BSD's need to do the same thing here. :-)
One other suggestion I've heard is to split the 64 bits we have for time
into 44 bits for seconds, and 20 bits for microseconds. That's more than
enough modification resolution, and also pushes things to past year
500,000 AD. Versioning the i
would cover this easily.
Ugh. But possible...
I agree it's ugly, but it has the advantage that it doesn't grow the
on-disk inode. A lot of flks have designs on the remaining 64 bits free.
:-)
Well, so long as we can resolve the issue for a long, long time;
I plan on being around to have
le it... 8-).
:-)
I bet by then (559447 AD) we won't be using ffs, so the problem will be
moot. :-)
Unless I'm the curator of a computer museum... 8-).
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Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is
not assumed to be a FreeBSD system (e.g. don't assume that the
vfs_default stuff exists on the other end of the proxy, or that
it would be functional).
Ter
-(.
You could actually think of it this way, as well: only FS's that
contain vnodes that provide backing should implement VOP_GETPAGES
and VOP_PUTPAGES, and all I/O should be done through paging.
Right. That's part of UBC. :-)
Yep. Again, if NetBSD doesn't hav
(and the response, back).
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Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is
not assumed to be a FreeBSD system (e.g. don't assume that the
vfs_default stuff exists on the other end of the proxy, or that
it would be functional).
Now, Terry, that is ridiculous. One has
le it... 8-).
:-)
I bet by then (559447 AD) we won't be using ffs, so the problem will be
moot. :-)
Unless I'm the curator of a computer museum... 8-).
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Make sure that the system you are talking to over the proxy is
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it would be functional).
Ter
viding patches for --
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ding a bit
:in the minor number - I think they've pretty much all been taken.
Cripes! Now that is really annoying. da0a is 4,0 and da1a is 4,8.
Use devfs (it doesn't require major/minor numbers).
Terry Lambert
ed "snapshot", to allow for backups
to occur on running FS's (and if the backups were "taking too long",
that regular soft-updates operations would eventaully stall as a
result).
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with the
preexisting partition space.
Too bad you are not as willing to abandon your existing partition
space as quickly as you are willing to abandon your historical
disklabel format, or you wouldn't be having this problem. 8-).
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reebsd.org.
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ller would lay it out?
I guess this all moderately re-begs the "struct fileops" question,
yet again, too... 8-(.
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ve access to some set of data, but this seems like
something that should be done using file permissions.
SUID/SGID are stored as part of the file permission bits.
Kind of makes the choice obvious, in retrospect. 8-).
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cated well over NFS.
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it to reap the
process status.
Not that this matters, of course, since a zombie has already
engaged in resource tracking cleanup via _exit().
8-p.
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ssionalism,
not because "software is magic" and not because "software is
this amorphorous thing" and not because "the software is too
complex for one mind to grasp all of it".
Anyone who tells you any different is either lying or a hardware
engineer.
ere isn't.
I think this is what fit's Greg's bill the best: implict, forced
participation in the locking protocol. It's also the only safe
bet, if you have badly behaved processes, since explicit locking
can fail, in that case.
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contact Doug Ambrisko. He may be interested, assuming that these
tests achieve formal standing for acceptance testing.
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uot; and "The Design and Implementation of the 4.3 BSD
UNIX Operating System", in paticular, the section on both tty
handling on on-to-off DCD transition for a tty on which modem
control is enables, and on pty handling in the case that the
master is closed.
.
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Tom wrote:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use a cdr/cdrw
with 4.3 release? I want to use it with my sony vaio
f580 (notebook). I have the option of usb or pcmcia.
Can you tell me which models are known to work? Thanks
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[ ... merging vnode and vm_object_t ... ]
Kirk McKusick wrote:
Every vnode in the system has an associated object. Every object
backed by a file (e.g., everything but anonymous objects) has an
associated vnode. So, the performance of one is pretty tied to the
performance of the other. Matt
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
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McKusick writes:
Every vnode in the system has an associated object.
No: device vnodes dont...
I think the correct solution to that is to move devices away from
vnodes and into the fdesc layer, just like fifo's and sockets.
Michael C . Wu wrote:
I have been hearing about GaAs since the beginning of my college
career. One chemistry professor put it rather well, Gallium
Arsenide based semiconductors are considered the future of
semiconductors, and always will be the future of semiconductors.
Hitachi has a GaAs
Jeremiah Gowdy wrote:
Now think about this. Microsoft Visual C++ will be *the*
industry compiler for Itainium. Their compiler is already
working and has ILP support. Plus Intel makes its own
compiler which plugs into Visual Studio. Both the Microsoft
and Intel compilers for ILP are going
Matt Dillon wrote:
This is all preliminary. The question is whether we can
cover enough bases for this to be viable.
Here is a proposed struct file. Make f_data opaque (or
more opaque), add f_object, extend fileops (see next
structure), Added f_vopflags to
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Someone had some patches for a getpeercreds() syscall, but I wasn't
happy with it considering we already have the sendmsg() stuff to pass
credentials along with the fact that the initial creator of a socket
may be long gone before it's used to connect to something.
William E. Baxter wrote:
[ ... Subject: ... ]
And as Alfred points out, perhaps unintentionally, the
information should be passed at connect(), because the
client process may exit before accept() returns. Many
simple servers require credentials and nothing more. In
such cases, there is
Ingo Flaschberger wrote:
the problem is, when i connect after the boot a keyboard
at the box, it is not recognized. at the colocations we
often need access to this boxes (not remote access).
is there a solution for this problem?
Note : this is a way to kill your keyboard :
Aman wrote:
kldstat shows the kernel as a loaded module. does it mean
the kernel after getting in the core is resident to it's
complete physical size.
Its complete physical size... only including static BSS
allocations.
my question is, does the pagedaemon carry out any sort of
paging or
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
dave $ cd /usr/src
dave $ make installworld DESTDIR=/vol1/FreeBSD
dave will install the entire OS into /vol1/FreeBSD?
Yes (or it should be).
dave Has anyone ever tried this? ;)
You should have already seen the result that uses make installworld
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
tlambert2 FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler,
tlambert2 since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for
tlambert2 thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff...
We have chroot(8) already, no problems:) Perhaps the original
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
tlambert2 It still breaks. See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a
tlambert2 compiler other than one installed in the default location,
tlambert2 or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it
tlambert2 where the correct header and crt0 files live. Really.
David Mr. Hackers O'Brien wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
If it doesn't work as you have said, make release' also _doesn't_
work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)
I think you are missing the facts:
...
o Look in /usr
This whole ssh B.S. is very annoying.
After an upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 using a CDROM boot plus
upgrade menu option, SSH stops working, for no good reason
(_any_ reason is no good).
It complains about RSA not being in libcrypto, even though
nm shows that that claim is full of crap.
Yes, I have
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Thanks for the reply. I first tried to change the IRQ from
the BIOS. I saw that the IRQ of both the cards changes
together. The machine has 4 CPUs and I am booting from CPU
#1. The bios shows 4 PCI slots. The Plug and Play OS entry
in the BIOS is set to No.
Any
Daniel Hemmerich wrote:
Any comments, suggestions, swears concerning adding a new function,
strndup(), to libc?
So that instead of permitting it to attempt to allocate a large
chunk of memory, it is possible to give it a max length.
How about just knowing what you are passing to the
Mike Smith wrote:
You don't have to change anything; IRQ sharing is allowed by
PCI (and in fact, unless you change the slot the card is in,
you can't change one without changing the other).
[ ... ]
I am using FreeBSD 3.3 on a proprietary machine.
**
-- Terry
To follow myself up:
Any comments, suggestions, swears concerning adding a new function,
strndup(), to libc?
So that instead of permitting it to attempt to allocate a large
chunk of memory, it is possible to give it a max length.
How about just knowing what you are passing to
Jordan Hubbard wrote:
ssh works just fine for me in 4.3. You must be doing something
wrong.
I used that sysinstall thing Jordan wrote to upgrade
from a 4.2 to a 4.3 system.
Is that what I'm doing wrong? ;^).
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Erik Trulsson wrote:
Exactly how is rpping it out of FreeBSD supposed to make ssh work?
I don't necessarily want it to work or not work, I just
want it to quit being a pain in my backside.
If it can't be made to upgrade correctly, then ripping it
out also satisfies the criteria necessary to
j wrote:
On Saturday 12 May 2001 06:24, Terry Lambert wrote:
This whole ssh B.S. is very annoying.
After an upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 using a CDROM boot plus
upgrade menu option, SSH stops working, for no good reason
(_any_ reason is no good).
You did make the needed additions
Mike Silbersack wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Peter Wemm wrote:
Mike Silbersack wrote:
1. Is ssh working yet?
Yes, it is working perfectly. The only problem is that it now works
slightly differently to what people have expected. ie: it treats
sshv1 rsa keys as totally seperate to
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:24:48PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Jordan Hubbard wrote:
ssh works just fine for me in 4.3. You must be doing something
wrong.
I used that sysinstall thing Jordan wrote to upgrade
from a 4.2 to a 4.3 system.
Is that what I'm
Valentin Nechayev wrote:
Modern Unicode allows character codes more than 65534.
wchar_t(65536) is Egyptian glyph;) Maximum allowed AFAIR is
2**31-1. So at least 32 bits integer type required if you
don't want adapt system to former millennium requires.
This argument came up on
Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Terry Lambert wrote:
Internationalization, in general, is the process of
taking code, and making it so that it is possible to
localize it into a particular -- monolingual -- locale.
You need spacial software to deal with multilingual
text; the vast majority
Wilko Bulte wrote:
Hi
Is there any specific reason why one needs to be able to
write a lock to the CVS repo when running 'make update'
to get a freshly checked out source?
Yeah: you aren't running your CVS server in pserver
mode, and so are trying to do a lock, either in your
local copy,
and
] throughput requirements and have always blamed our use of FreeBSD for it.
You may wish to point out to them that their F5 boxes are
running FreeBSD.
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Nadav Eiron wrote:
I ran tests that I think are similar to what Jason ran on identically
configured FreeBSD and Linux/ReiserFS machines. ResierFS is much much
faster than UFS+softupdates on these tests.
[ ... ]
Both tests were done with postmark-1.5, 6 files in
1 transactions.
void wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:40:11PM -0600, Matt Simerson wrote:
When did that change? As of March which was the last time
I had my grubby little hands all over a F5 BigIP box in our
lab, it was NOT running FreeBSD. It runs a tweaked version
of BSDI's kernel.
I
] Terry Lambert writes:
]
] I don't understand the inability to perform the trivial
] design engineering necessary to keep from needing to put
] 60,000 files in one directory.
]
] However, we can take it as a given that people who need
] to do this are incapable of doing computer science
is the write cache on the drive.
FreeBSD with soft updates will operate within 4% of the
top memory bandwidth; see the Ganger/Patt paper on the
technology.
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cases (up to a maximum observed difference
of a factor of 15).
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treating an FS as if it were a relational database? It
is a tool intended to solve an entirely different problem set.
You are bitching about your hammer not making a good screwdriver.
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, it wouldn't have been a problem.
NB: Write caching isn't a problem: it's the drive lying out its
arse and telling us that the write was committed to stable
storage, when in fact it was only cached, which is the problem.
Terry Lambert
This postmark test is useless self flagellation.
The intent of the test is obviously intended to show
certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under
strange load conditions which are patently unreal.
We already knew the limitations on putting many files
in a directory; the only useful
Dave Hayes wrote:
You can't make that assumption just yet (although it seems
reasonable). We really don't know exactly what the problem they are
trying to solve is. Network news sites running old versions of
software (as an example, I know someone who still runs CNEWS) have
very clear
Jesús Arnáiz wrote:
Hi!
I'm working on a project in which I need to develop and
installer able to install Internet/intranet servers.
I want to do it compiling FreeBSD binaries and, the program,
only have to copy these on the new system.
The problem is with some packages like
Ed Hudson wrote:
the cost of soft updates, and the cost of hw.ata.wc=0
enclosed is a .jpeg of an xgraph of the following interactive test:
[ ... ]
hw.ata.wc=0, soft-updates enables.
hw.ata.wc=0, soft-updates disabled.
hw.ata.wc=1, soft-updates disabled.
the
Andrew Reilly wrote:
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 07:25:16PM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote:
One of my personal mail folders has 4400 messages in it, and
I've only been collecting that one for a few years. It's not
millions, but its a few more than the 500 that I've seen some
discuss here as a
Mike Silbersack wrote:
As to technical arguments for enabling write caching under
uncertain power conditions, I can't come up with any.
(Until the BIO_ORDERED work is done; is anyone actually
working on it?)
Apparently IBM has finally released an IDE drive that can
do tagged command
Nickolay A. Kritsky wrote:
Hi all.
I am using assembly language to write some useful programs
for my FreeBSD 3.3_release and i need some debugger. I am
not happy with gdb. Can you tell me if there is some Soft-ICE
type debuggers under this OS ?
SoftICE is actually overkill; ddd and
Kris Kennaway wrote:
1. Have the ata driver leave the write cache setting
alone by default, providing a sysctl which can cause
disabled or enabled if requested. When the default is
allowed, put something in dmesg which says Note: Write
caching may be enabled. See ata(4) for the
Mike Silbersack wrote:
As a friend of mine says I can make it go as fast as you
want, if it doesn't have to work...
You entirely missed my point. Yes, we could leave it at 0.
But if so, we should tell people so that they can make an
informed choice. If we don't make the choice obvious,
Peter Wemm wrote:
Terry Lambert wrote:
Mike Silbersack wrote:
1. Have the ata driver leave the write cache setting
alone by default, providing a sysctl which can cause
disabled or enabled if requested. When the default is
allowed, put something in dmesg which says Note: Write
Rik van Riel wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:
The intent of the test is obviously intended to show
certain facts which we all know to be self-evident under
strange load conditions which are patently unreal.
I would suggest a better test would be to open _at least_
Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
This postmark test is useless self flagellation.
The benchmark tests what it was meant to test: performance
on huge directories.
Which is useless, since only degenerate software results
in huge directories.
I have yet to see one example of software which would
Rik van Riel wrote:
How about a real benchmark?
Good question indeed. All proposed benchmarks in this thread
have been geared heavily towards one system or the other and
are not at all industry standard benchmarks.
At www.spec.org I see SPECweb99 numbers for Solaris, AIX,
Linux,
Rik van Riel wrote:
Thank you for not telling it to one of my servers which is running
around with about 10 concurrent connections biting its tail. I
wouldn't like to hurt its feelings. And I've got the feeling that it
will have to bear a bit more of that beating.
Interesting,
G. Adam Stanislav wrote:
At 09:30 01-06-2001 -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
This would be a question for the GNU Binutils mailing
list to find out why they changed anything.
Thank you. I did as you suggested, and found a solution.
I give: what was the soloution?
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Matt Dillon wrote:
I can see this really helping mail queue performance,
especially when coupled with softupdates, and also
helping samba (windoz likes to scan directories), and
perhaps even squid to a degree.
The new code is interesting; it will be enlightening to
see it's
Mike Silbersack wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:
First of all, they do not run circles around FreeBSD;
they kill the virgin reliability on the alter of the
bloody god Benchmark.
Ok, Terry, you've made it clear that you hate IDE, you
hate linux, and you pretty much
Jiangyi Liu wrote:
Hi all,
After just changing a little in sys/kern/kern_sig.c, how can I rebuild
the kernel fast? I think it should not take such a long time as 'make
buildkernel' does. Anyway, just kern_sig.c need to be recompiled and
the kernel can be linked. So how do you guys do in
Ian Dowse wrote:
The only potential problem I see here is that you could
end up seriously fragmenting the malloc pool you are
using to allocate the slot arrays. And, of course, the
two issues you brought up in regards to regularing memory
use.
Thanks for the comments
Ian Dowse wrote:
Nice idea, but I'm not sure I see the benefit of partially reclaiming
second-level arrays. Because it is a hash array, there isn't really
the concept of a working set; a directory that is `in use' will
rarely see many create/rename/delete operations on a small fixed
set of
Bill Fenner wrote:
The TCP checksum protects more than just the contents of the packet
on the wire; it's also a (somewhat) weak check on the contents
of your packet sitting in memory, and as it's going over the bus
in your computer between memory and peripherals and for other
end-to-end
Cejka Rudolf wrote:
There is following paragraph in SUSv2:
If a process sets the action for the SIGCHLD signal to SIG_IGN,
the behaviour is unspecified, except as specified below. If the
action for the SIGCHLD signal is set to SIG_IGN, child processes
of the calling processes
Ian Dowse wrote:
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Also why does this happen only every few hours ? There is a lot of
data going through these connections maybe the timer for SO_RCVTIMEO
is not being reset.
But then we have another server, with a similar number of
Dave Hayes wrote:
David O'Brien -Hackers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You mentioned though that your CDROM is /. How about posting the real
/etc/fstab from your root partition for us to have a look at?
There is none. No default fstab exists.
There is no Dana, only Zuul...
I think that
Assar Westerlund wrote:
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This all came from IP headers being 14 bytes long, instead
of 16.
Hu? An IPv4 header (not including options) is 20 bytes long.
Sorry; ethernet header.
The problem is the 14 bytes making the code unaligned on
a 32 or 64
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This thread is baffling. The bottom line is that you cant
trust data coming into your machine, and you have to
checksum it. The link level check only verifies that what
was sent by the last forwarding point is the same as what
you got, but in NO WAY implies that
Warner Losh wrote:
I have the need to read a whole pile of DEC Rainbow 100 floppies. I
can do it on the DEC Rainbow, but that's a huge pita since it isn't
networked. I'd like to either connect a RX-50 drive to my machine, or
use a 1.2M 5.25 floppy drive that I can scrounge easily enough
Cejka Rudolf wrote:
Ok, I repeat it once again - in the full: If I use
sigemptyset(sa.sa_mask);
sa.sa_flags = 0;
sa.sa_handler = SIG_IGN;
sigaction(SIGCHLD, sa, NULL);
zombies are still created in FreeBSD, which is against SUSv2.
You are correct:
---
SIG_IGN
If the action for the
Louis A. Mamakos wrote:
Setting aside the degree to which you choose to be paranoid about
where data can be corrupted, and the likelyhood thereof-- there
is an architectural issue here, which is that the CRC provided
by your friendly neighborhood Ethernet NIC card only protects the
data
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