Re: ps_strings

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Torek
there should be documentation for ps_strings. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: ps_strings

2013-08-18 Thread Chris Torek
-virtual-address limitation. The cost is a bit more kernel code (for the sysctl()s) and this per-process data, but there is no more messing-about with where is ps_strings in this memory-layout / emulation etc. (Meanwhile libkvm still retrieves the arguments. It just does it now with sysctl().) Chris

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
(Durn mailing list software, eating attachments... there are just the two so I will just send them one at a time here. I took the individual people off the to/cc since presumably you all got the attachments already.) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:39:51 -0600 Subject: [PATCH 1/2] create_pagetables:

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
(Durn mailing list software, eating attachments... there are just the two so I will just send them one at a time here. I took the individual people off the to/cc since presumably you all got the attachments already.) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:49:29 -0600 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] increase physical

am I abusing the UMA allocator?

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
. But I wonder if perhaps some minor changes to uma_core might make this more useable, or if this is really within the intent of the UMA code at all. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-14 Thread Chris Torek
that last page of all-0s to get filled in, etc. Of course KPML4I should be the very last (511'th) L4 table entry always, unless the kernel grows really huge :-) I'll fix the comments in the split-up patch. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-14 Thread Chris Torek
Here's the split-up version with the additional comment corrections. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-08 Thread Chris Torek
is 1 instead of 2). (I fixed the comment errors I spotted earlier, too.) Chris amd64/amd64/pmap.c | 100 +--- amd64/include/pmap.h| 36 + amd64/include/vmparam.h | 13 --- 3 files changed, 97 insertions(+), 52 deletions

Re: hw.physmem/hw.realmem question

2013-07-02 Thread Chris Torek
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Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-01 Thread Chris Torek
in the comment in the original patch, I'll fix that if/when there's any agreement on whether it gets applied in some form :-) ) Chris diff --git a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c index acf5af2..f1ed8b6 100644 --- a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c +++ b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c @@ -232,6 +232,7 @@ u_int64_t

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-28 Thread Chris Torek
pages in this particular example.) But this would at least affect pmap_init()'s loop over nkpt entries to initialize the vm page array entries that describe the KPTphys area, so I did not attempt it.] Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Torek
.. (but I still needed the map I drew of the page tables...). care to share? :-) It's on paper (I need to get a whiteboard...). If I can ASCIIfy it ... Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Torek
direct-map entries. But that would require switching to the bcopy() method also mentioned below. Or indexing into vmspace0.vm_pmap.pm_pml4, which is basically the same thing.) Chris - There are six -- or sometimes five -- sets of pages allocated here at boot time to map physical memory

expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-26 Thread Chris Torek
and subtracting an offset, which would allow the base and limit to be arbitrary, rather than a power of two. (Still, it did not seem worth doing here.) Chris diff --git a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c index 272158d..acf5af2 100644 --- a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c +++ b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c @@ -534,6 +534,10

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain expression I

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 18:15, Florent Peterschmitt flor...@peterschmitt.fr wrote: Le 02/06/2013 14:16, Chris Rees a écrit : On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think I've discovered a strange

sed query

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Rees
a brief glance figure out why a slightly longer regex makes such a difference-- does it start to split it? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd

Re: /bin/sh = STDIN functions, var scope messing

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Rees
component of a pipeline in the parent shell. The usual model is do work in pipeline, process results in final component, and being able to simply set variables there that can be used in the rest of the script is very elegant. Right... But it's not portable. Chris

Re: Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 May 2013 14:42, Steve Wills st...@mouf.net wrote: On 05/29/13 16:02, Chris Rees wrote: Hi all! Back in 2005, when Alexander Leidinger wrote the make delete-old target, he documented the order of upgrade such that it should be run before mergemaster [1]; # 7. `make installworld

Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
an executable that has just been removed for example. I cannot think of an example where the system is left unbootable/damaged if make delete-old is run after mergemaster. What do people think of the patch at [2]? Chris [1] http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/Makefile?r1=148329r2=148330; [2] http

Re: Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
which tell to use the reverse order. Warner On May 29, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Chris Rees wrote: Hi all! Back in 2005, when Alexander Leidinger wrote the make delete-old target, he documented the order of upgrade such that it should be run before mergemaster [1]; # 7. `make installworld

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Rees
strings well But it has its own troubles too of course. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: stupid question about sendmail

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Rees
outgoing mail to x...@y.pl should be rejected. tried access.db - To:x...@y.pl REJECT doesn't work any idea. thank you Try a sendmail list? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: stupid question about sendmail

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Rees
got it right this time: 1. Edit the /etc/mail/access file. 2. Insert a line like this one: To:mail...@some.domain.tld REJECT tried too. doesn't work. http://www.sendmail.com/sm/open_source/support/public_forums/ There is also an IRC channel, #sendmail on Freenode. Chris

Re: ladmins that cannot type a command

2013-05-04 Thread Chris Rees
writing patches rather than telling other people what not to do. We're (nearly) all volunteers. If you think something needs fixing, you can have a go yourself or pay someone, but do NOT tell someone that their contribution is not worthwhile while pushing your agenda. Chris

Re: How to sabotage 9.*-RELEASE worldbuilds?

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Rees
/doc builds, in /etc/make.conf, I have: === # For port textproc/docproj WITH_JADETEX=YES DOC_LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1 FORMATS=html txt And yet another example of misunderstanding how quotes in Makefiles breaks things :) If in doubt, leave quotes out! (This only applies to make) Chris

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Rees
goals to meet the needs of the community. Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced that it's needed; you may be thinking of Linux's menuconfig, but I think that is because of the complexity. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Rees
On 24 April 2013 18:30, Justin Edward Muniz justin.mu...@maine.edu wrote: Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced that it's needed; you may be thinking of Linux's menuconfig, but I think that is because of the complexity. Chris While configuring the kernel may

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Chris Rees
be the technical contact for this project, though that was five years ago-- perhaps he'd like to comment. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Chris BeHanna
Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post? What's the limit on this fishing hole? -- Chris BeHanna ch...@behanna.org ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
Can you provide a backtrace that leads to this? Sure. In case it's not obvious, the __rw_rlock at the top of the trace is working on a lock that has never been initialized (the first of the two ipv4 PCBs). Chris Booting... GDB: no debug ports present KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB: current

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
are initialized before invoking the device configuration code -- moving SI_SUB_PROTO* before SI_CONFIGURE -- but presumably this idea was tried and rejected earlier and hence the code in ether_ifattach to check the same global variable. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers

boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Torek
, or modify the patch. :-) Chris diff --git a/sys/net/if.c b/sys/net/if.c --- a/sys/net/if.c +++ b/sys/net/if.c @@ -845,6 +845,15 @@ if_purgeaddrs(ifp); + /* +* torek: it's not entirely clear to me where and how this +* should go, but if domain_init_status 2

Re: Ports: make fails, if DESTDIR path has spaces

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Rees
On 1 April 2013 17:13, rank1see...@gmail.com wrote: Try DESTDIR='/usr/TZ\ ONE'; export DESTDIR. You need to escape the space. This is '#!/bin/sh' scripting. Doing so fixes *.mk, but breaks sh = dir simply doesn't exist anymore. Matthias Chris = *.mk is at fault here, for not supporting

Re: Ports: make fails, if DESTDIR path has spaces

2013-03-31 Thread Chris Rees
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Re: snd_geode - where it is

2013-03-14 Thread Chris Rees
. Remember that if you install audio/oss, you will have to compile a kernel without sound drivers built in. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd

Re: blocking teamviewer trojan

2013-02-21 Thread Chris Rees
would have better luck on a Windows security list. This list is for development of FreeBSD. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers

Re: building select ports for packaging on install media

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Rees
Tinderbox will also work fine. (Also, this belongs on ports@) Chris On 11 Feb 2013 19:31, Alexander Yerenkow yeren...@gmail.com wrote: Best way is to have poudriere :) Regards, Alexander Yerenkow 11.02.2013 21:24 пользователь Kurt Lidl l...@pix.net написал: Greetings. I'm looking

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
on reads and writes it gives single drive random I/O performance. So we have to take your word for it? Provide a link if you're going to make assertions, or they're no more than your own opinion. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 January 2013 21:24, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: I've heard this same thing -- every vdev == 1 drive in performance. I've never seen any proof/papers on it though. read original ZFS papers. No, you are making the assertion, provide a link. Chris

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 Jan 2013 21:45, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:26:43 -0600, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: So we have to take your word for it? Provide a link if you're going to make assertions, or they're no more than your own opinion. I've heard

Re: disadvantages of running 8.3 kernel on freebsd 8.2 system

2013-01-17 Thread Chris Rees
weird problems sometimes happen with out of sync kernel/world; normally with new world old kernel, but the opposite is possible. Are you simply apprehensive over the time of buildworld? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: disadvantages of running 8.3 kernel on freebsd 8.2 system

2013-01-17 Thread Chris Rees
On 17 Jan 2013 17:13, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Are you simply apprehensive over the time of buildworld? no idea what you mean - my english isn't perfect. Sorry, was asking the OP. I normally have latest binaries and generic kernel built for FreeBSD 8 which i

Re: cvs deprecated

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 Dec 2012 12:58, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: do ports have to be updated this way or i can use portsnap as today? will portsnap be continued or is too deprecated? Portsnap is staying. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers

Re: cvs deprecated

2012-12-27 Thread Chris Rees
use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD git mirrors demoted to beta status, need your help

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Rees
of git show-ref in a private mail, thanks. Hey, http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/scratch/git-show-ref.txt I hope it's what you were hoping for :) My local svn mirror is synchronised at midnight GMT (UTC). Need anything else? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers

Re: old style kernel configuration

2012-11-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 Nov 2012 16:26, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Value: ability to embed entire config (comments and all) into the kernel value 2: simplicity. How is it simpler? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: old style kernel configuration

2012-11-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 Nov 2012 18:56, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: How is it simpler? Chris strange question i thought it is obviously clear. $EDITOR config config kernel cd ../compile/kernel make depend make make install that's all. and no need to keep whole /usr/src

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Rees
On 19 Nov 2012 13:05, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 18/11/2012 16:17 Chris Rees said the following: On 18 November 2012 14:04, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 18 November 2012 02:48, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: What you describe is not a workflow issue

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-18 Thread Chris Rees
on semantics for hours on end, or we can realise that git isn't a magic bullet for FreeBSD development. Also... did I mention git is GPL? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Rees
, and changing to a tool that doesn't work for us (and is GPL btw) is no good at all. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr

Re: Ports cross-compiling

2012-11-14 Thread Chris Rees
work done on cross-building ports, but it's fairly early days yet; the only real cross that can be done with much degree of success is i386 on amd64 currently. Your patch doesn't look destructive, but it could be better integrated with TARGET_ARCH setting. Chris

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 22:10, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:53:56 +0100, Chris Rees writes: I'm saying that it's unacceptable to expect people to change their systems just to make the ports tree work after we have broken it on a supposedly supported version

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Rees
On 28 October 2012 19:11, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:06:41 +, Chris Rees writes: Are we planning to replace /usr/bin/make with bmake in the near future? That was what I heard, but any such move is dependent on dealing with ports. The ~sjg

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 is supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even longer. All this time

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
[trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: In that case we have a switch time

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 15:32, Bryan Drewery br...@shatow.net wrote: On 10/27/2012 8:23 AM, Chris Rees wrote: [trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, Simon J. Gerraty s

Call for review -- rc needs some love!

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
how to get any of my patches in! Please would someone with a src bit review some of my fixes [2]? I'm working on a few more, but I would need approval for anything committed. Thanks! Chris [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?responsible=freebsd-rc [2] http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
) ${USE_RC_SUBR:U} != YES 53 [crees@pegasus]~% Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 19:52, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:29 +0100, Chris Rees writes: We (ab)use the security update mechanism to merge the pmake changes (:tl and :tu) into releng/7.4 and releng/8.3 (possibly the earlier I originally provided the :tl and :tu

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
further. Have you a patch :)? You're right, there shouldn't have been many changes needed. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 06:01, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:01:27 +0100, Chris Rees writes: Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake are made clear? This is a major

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
this, but was waiting for something I don't remember. :tu/:tl is in releng/9.1, so it will also be in 9.1-RELEASE. Then we only have two supported stable branches you propose to break... Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 20:15, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 Oct 2012 19:12, David O'Brien obr...@freebsd.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:12:44AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Do be able to get the ports tree working with bmake asap, I also asked him to MFC it to 9.1, from

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 21:51, Simon J. Gerraty s...@juniper.net wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:00:26 +0100, Chris Rees writes: :L -- seems that bmake's use for this is kinda pointless; returning the name of the variable; we could swap that usage over directly. Acutally it is very useful

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Rees
for -depends defined here Looks like a few missing .if !target s, but the breakage is pretty big even for simple things :/ Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Rees
. Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake are made clear? This is a major, *major* upheaval, and having two versions of bsd.port.mk for years is simply not an option. Have you discussed this on ports@? Chris ___ freebsd

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Rees
Can you perhaps read the whole thread and organise your thoughts into just one email? Chris On 18 Sep 2012 09:09, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: To be succinct: this is not OSX/Windows. True Unix and Unix clones can be decoupled from a desktop environment enough

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Rees
if 76% would decide that FreeBSD should have KDE included in system - it means that it should? No. Read the thread properly. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send

Re: gpart is junk

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Rees
. You may be more familiar with manually editing slice tables, but it is very easy to mess up. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Rees
be in base. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Why fdisk can't open root disk with MBR for writing?

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Rees
of course is to fix fdisk... *properly*. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: [RFC] Add *.orig/*.rej to svn:ignore in src?

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Rees
an example where this has happened? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video

2012-08-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: very expensive.. Training and education generally are. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers

Re: port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-08-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 12 July 2012 18:52, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu davi...@freebsd.org wrote: On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote: Hi all / David, doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently -STABLE too. The current fix is disabling one

Re: Published paper

2012-08-07 Thread Chris Nehren
may also find this interesting, because AFAIR one of the reasons Matt forked FreeBSD was due to disagreements in the SMP implementation. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpf2mA8W83Os.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD ZFS source

2012-08-02 Thread Chris Nehren
/modules/zfs /usr/src/tools/regression/zfs Those are probably a good start. Some of them just contain a Makefile pointing you elsewhere in the tree, though. I might have missed something, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I have. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgp4qvQrT9NKB.pgp

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-18 Thread Chris Rees
bsdlabel is far easier and useful. Bsdlabel was a monstrosity that required a calculator to hand to do anything useful. Gpart on the other hand is easily scriptable. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-07-12 Thread Chris Rees
On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu davi...@freebsd.org wrote: On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote: Hi all / David, doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently -STABLE too. The current fix is disabling one of the tests in the build, but obviously it points to a problem

Better ldns docs? (Was: bikeshedding about BIND)

2012-07-09 Thread Chris Nehren
suppose you could say well volunteered to that, too, but I'm not sure if the docs will get finished in time for a good CLI client for 10-RELEASE. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpjqnyBdJSbw.pgp Description: PGP signature

port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-07-08 Thread Chris Rees
on a _umtx call. I'm gratuitously ignorant of what goes on there... but the timings of recent commits to umtx.h [3] could indicate a link (hope it's not bogus...). Any pointers on what I should do next? Chris [1] http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/scratch/doxygen-truss [2] http://www.bayofrum.net

Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Chris Rees
to Sulev-Madis Silber (ketas on EFNet) about his code for making a universal list of files provided by all ports-- he has written a conflicts checker recently and may know some shortcuts. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Chris Rees
down'. This is adding features to help newcomers. You are free to disable them. It will not remove anything from FreeBSD. I point to Doug's statement on elitism. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Chris Rees
on. this only generate herds of morons that know FreeBSD and dissolve real user base. What is the 'real user base?' People who insult newcomers and call them morons? People who consider it cool to use a OS that is unnecessarily difficult to learn? Chris

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
this feature are the ones who wouldn't know it was there. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Gentoo Solution to Nanny Terminal Problem

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
was installed by package bash-4.2.28 0:57 Fri 06-Jul sean@queen [~] pkg_info -W /usr/local/sbin/sendmail /usr/local/sbin/sendmail was installed by package postfix-2.9.3,1 This isn't the same at all; it only reports for installed packages. Chris ___ freebsd

Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
it comes out. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Nehren
for anyone familiar with C and DNS who has the tuits to spare. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpR1jUEqDRxU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: sysctl filesystem ?

2012-06-26 Thread Chris Rees
. Just because Linux uses it doesn't make it a bad idea. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: MAGIC with HP KVM - someone will help?

2012-06-23 Thread Chris Rees
' but it's so obvious when it happens it's no big hardship. I have a Belkin adaptor one by the way, and it works very well with FreeBSD apart from that issue, if that's any help. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-22 Thread Chris Rees
. editing config is enough. and would ask you elaborate for me. Thanks, why adding solaris style command to add a line in text file. just edit a text file. Scripting? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Rees
seeing a files and directories (both numerous) of just a kernel binaries was truly enough. Now... lets go back to FreeBSD which is controllable and understandable by a human. Your arrogance is astounding. Did you read man hier? Unfamiliarity does not make it incomprehensible. Chris

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Rees
in scripts. If everyone agree i think i may write this new scripts. Sorry but I completely disagree here. Why ? Because do one thing and do one thing well. What do you mean ? He means the UNIX philosophy. http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch01s06.html Chris

Re: BIO_DELETE equivalent for file on FFS filesystem

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
on filesystem which takes 10GB but uses 5GB. i could write simple program to find out what blocks are unused and then...do nothing. What if you cp it? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd

Re: BIO_DELETE equivalent for file on FFS filesystem

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 16, 2012 8:37 PM, Xin LI delp...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 14, 2012 5:49 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: file to take 900MB or... can i call some system function to punch holes

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
:) Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 15, 2012 9:39 AM, Peter Jeremy pe...@rulingia.com wrote: On 2012-Jun-14 08:09:30 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: Except STABLE is no good for production, and the problem is EoL- updates and support stop. There's nothing stopping you from from running -stable in production

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-14 Thread Chris Rees
decide to change number :) Except STABLE is no good for production, and the problem is EoL- updates and support stop. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-14 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 14, 2012 9:30 AM, Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd wrote: On 6/14/12 9:09 AM, Chris Rees wrote: On Jun 14, 2012 5:52 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Friends, I am looking at the upcoming release schedule, and I only see 9.1 listed - can anyone confirm

Re: CD bootcode

2012-06-07 Thread Chris Rees
.asciz /boot/loader .byte 0 -- I injected third '.asciz' line with full path to 'loader' and recompiled it. And what is first line /BOOT/LOADER doing in there ?!? Because strict ISO9660 8.3 is case insensitive and uses caps? Chris

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