Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri

  However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
 different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
 do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the
install program.  I can transfer files to my hearts content using the ftp
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
certain types of equipment?

 Any suggestions as to what I should look into?
It sounds like a motherboard chipset problem.

It's a standard intel chipset... I'm getting a replacement BIOS to
see if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Jay



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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman

 However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
 different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
 do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

   Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the
install program.  I can transfer files to my hearts content using the ftp
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
certain types of equipment?

   What's the cable plugged into?

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com


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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri

 program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
 distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
 to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
 about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
 could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
 certain types of equipment?
 
What's the cable plugged into?
 

We have tried:

ATI switch (centrecom 3124tr) 10bT
3com SuperStack II (10/100)
SMC TigerSwitch 10bT

Same results on all of them.  We've also tried setting media type
to 10baseT/UTP in the 'ifconfig options' in sysinstall... no difference.

Jay



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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman
 Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
 person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 
 
 Has anyone seen problems like these?  Any ideas?
 
Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any
 problems. Strange. Do all of your systems have similar motherboards and CPU?

   The only thing that I can identify as a common factor, is that the
PCI slots are on a riser card.  One type is an NLX-form factor
motherboard.  The other is an industrial system with a Single Board
Computer (SBC) and a passive backplain.  Aside from the riser card, these
machines are completely different.  (IDE vs. SCSI, no other PCI devices,
SCSI pci device, pentium vs pentium-II... onboard video/ethernet(in
addition to the intel cards) vs nothing onboard...)  

   However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

I doubt this is the case, but is the fxp driver different on the install
floppy than on the post-install kernel / kernel-source?

   Same driver on floppy and installed kernel.

Any suggestions as to what I should look into?

   It sounds like a motherboard chipset problem.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com


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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
  However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
 different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
 do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the
install program.  I can transfer files to my hearts content using the ftp
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
certain types of equipment?

 Any suggestions as to what I should look into?
It sounds like a motherboard chipset problem.

It's a standard intel chipset... I'm getting a replacement BIOS to
see if that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Jay



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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread David Greenman
 However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
 different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
 do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

   Though the cards seem to work post-install, they fail in the
install program.  I can transfer files to my hearts content using the ftp
program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
certain types of equipment?

   What's the cable plugged into?

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com


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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Jay Kuri
 program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a
 distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking with Intel
 to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in the source
 about the reciever has locked after garbage in the syncronization bits...
 could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by
 certain types of equipment?
 
What's the cable plugged into?
 

We have tried:

ATI switch (centrecom 3124tr) 10bT
3com SuperStack II (10/100)
SMC TigerSwitch 10bT

Same results on all of them.  We've also tried setting media type
to 10baseT/UTP in the 'ifconfig options' in sysinstall... no difference.

Jay



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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-08 Thread Justin C. Walker
 From: Jay Kuri j...@oneway.com
 Date: 1999-07-08 11:19:01 -0700
 To: David Greenman d...@root.com
 Subject: Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards
 Cc: hack...@freebsd.org
 In-reply-to: 199907081808.laa29...@implode.root.com
 Delivered-to: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
 X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

  program... but if I go into the installer and try to transfer a 
  distribution , it fails, locking in the same way.  I'm talking  
with Intel
  to see if they have had similar problems.  I read something in  
the source
  about the reciever has locked after garbage in the  
syncronization bits...
  could it be a similar problem with the new chip, perhaps exposed by 
  certain types of equipment?
 
 What's the cable plugged into?
 

   We have tried:

   ATI switch (centrecom 3124tr) 10bT
   3com SuperStack II (10/100)
   SMC TigerSwitch 10bT

   Same results on all of them.  We've also tried setting media type 
 to 10baseT/UTP in the 'ifconfig options' in sysinstall... no  
difference.

Some off-the-wall thoughts.  I haven't followed this closely, but  
noticed the last few messages.  Apologies if this is in the wrong  
ballpark.

Have you tried a hub or a switch configured to stick with half-duplex?

Also, some switches go dark when there's a change in port status,  
as might happen if a driver reinitializes the link.  The switches are  
executing a spanning tree algorithm on the new port, looking for  
loops.  If the switches can be configured to not do this (only needed  
for switch-switch connection), you might try that as well.  (I'm not  
sure if the install issue is occuring soon after a boot, or is  
something else).

Regards,

Justin

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Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri


Good Afternoon,

I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for
some time.  I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management
adapters.  In most of my machines, they don't work.  

Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very
clearly some problems.  

Doing FTP installs is impossible, on 3.2, if I can get it to start at all,
it gets 60% through bin and hangs.  2.2.8 gets 30% through and hangs.

Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 

Has anyone seen problems like these?  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jay




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Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri

Good Afternoon,

I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for
some time.  I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management
adapters.  In most of my machines, they don't work.  

Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very
clearly some problems.  

Doing FTP installs is impossible, on 3.2, if I can get it to start at all,
it gets 60% through bin and hangs.  2.2.8 gets 30% through and hangs.

Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 

Has anyone seen problems like these?  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jay




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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman

Good Afternoon,

   I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for
some time.  I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management
adapters.  In most of my machines, they don't work.  

Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very
clearly some problems.  

Doing FTP installs is impossible, on 3.2, if I can get it to start at all,
it gets 60% through bin and hangs.  2.2.8 gets 30% through and hangs.

Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 

Has anyone seen problems like these?  Any ideas?

   Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any
problems. Strange. Do all of your systems have similar motherboards and CPU?

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com


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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Oliver Banta
   I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for
 some time.  I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management
 adapters.  In most of my machines, they don't work.  
 
 Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very
 clearly some problems.  
 
 Doing FTP installs is impossible, on 3.2, if I can get it to start at all,
 it gets 60% through bin and hangs.  2.2.8 gets 30% through and hangs.
 
 Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
 person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 

I use the new Intel Pro/100+ Management adapters in several FreeBSD servers
with no problems.  I have also have done a FTP install using these adapters
without a problem.  You probably want to look elsewhere for the cause of the
lockup.

Cheers,
-- Oliver


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Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri
 Large data transfers seem to cause the lockup.  I know at least 1 netbsd
 person has reported similar problems with these new cards, (kern/7216). 
 
 Has anyone seen problems like these?  Any ideas?
 
Hmmm...I've been using them in some machines here and haven't seen any
 problems. Strange. Do all of your systems have similar motherboards and CPU?

The only thing that I can identify as a common factor, is that the
PCI slots are on a riser card.  One type is an NLX-form factor
motherboard.  The other is an industrial system with a Single Board
Computer (SBC) and a passive backplain.  Aside from the riser card, these
machines are completely different.  (IDE vs. SCSI, no other PCI devices,
SCSI pci device, pentium vs pentium-II... onboard video/ethernet(in
addition to the intel cards) vs nothing onboard...)  

However, we have at least one industrial-type system (with a
different board/config) that works fine with these cards, though we didn't
do the install with one.  I'll try that tomorrow and report my findings.

I doubt this is the case, but is the fxp driver different on the install
floppy than on the post-install kernel / kernel-source?

Any suggestions as to what I should look into?

Thanks,

Jay



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