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Munish Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] types:
Now that's tempting
Heh. And 386's seem ancient to me. I really *was* born 10 years too
late.
Look at it the other way around, and consider the 10 years worth of
hardware you're liable to see that those of us
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 02:43:55PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
; I don't know which is more sad, the fact that I thought of doing this,
; or the fact that I still remember how.
COUT EQU $FDED ; character output
REPLY LDX #0
:1LDA TEXT,X
BEQ :2
JSR COUT
INX
Instead of a heat gun I saw some adventurous people use an
acetylene torch. Now that works quick ;-)
Lol, not too long ago I designed a PCI add in card for an imaging
company. It had quite a few DSPs and FPGAs on one side. I had no
room on the top side for the Vram chips so I mounted them on
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
:That brings back memories. We wrote our own firmware for the 1541 since
:the commodore DOS was so slow. I forget what transfer rate we managed but
:it was much better than the standard code. Bit of a sod to debug though.
:
:--
:Doug Rabson
In a message dated 1/8/02 12:18:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Think they have the code to the C64 supermon assembler? I spend 3
evenings
poking it in from Compute! and now I can't find the cassette anywhere.
I have that somewhere. I also have the Compute!
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:51:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh oh. I just realized that THIS thread will be in google for the next 20
years. and we sound like a bunch of geeks good thing Im on an alias!
Right, and we know from experience how difficult it is to figure out
that
Nils Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A few years ago I tried hard to get a look at a real C65, you know, these
things that Commodore never really finsished, but which showed up in a few
units after Commodore went bankrupt. However, I have never been able to
pick up or only look at such a
In a message dated 01/09/2002 10:49:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:51:09AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Uh oh. I just realized that THIS thread will be in google for the next
20
years. and we sound like a bunch of geeks good
Heh. And I thought I was the only micro-micro-hacker that grew up into
Unix!
I've got _all_ the original CBM stuff for the VIC-20 and C-64, hardware
and hardcopy. Even some aftermarket FDDs.
I poked a _lot_ of stuff from Compute!, including the assembler, and
have several of their wire-bound
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote:
Oh my god. I don't even *remember* writing this one! This was when
I was 18. Google's archive isn't complete but they've done an incredible
job getting as much as they have.
Pet, C64, DMail, Shell (for the amiga), backup/restore
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 05:04:44AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr stood up and spoke:
Heh. And I thought I was the only micro-micro-hacker that grew up into
Unix!
I've got _all_ the original CBM stuff for the VIC-20 and C-64, hardware
and hardcopy. Even some aftermarket FDDs.
Well, I have three
Those of you out there whose memories include CHANGING diapers not
WEARING them might appreciate this.
At the Smithsonian they have an exhibit on the history of computers.
They have all of the old, and I use the term loosely, systems on
display, most still working.
What's pathetic is that my
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
In those days I built my own SWTPc/09 clone system, running TSC FLEX
and later TSC UniFlex. I still have it! Started off with 2 floppys,
later grew a Miniscribe 3012, 10Mb @ 155ms average access time. 1Mbyte RAM.
Motorola 6809 at 2 MHz. 2 years ago it
PSI, Mike Smith says:
Those of you out there whose memories include CHANGING diapers not
WEARING them might appreciate this.
At the Smithsonian they have an exhibit on the history of computers.
...
What's pathetic is that my wife (who is also in this field) and I walked
down the ENTIRE
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, PSI, Mike Smith wrote:
Those of you out there whose memories include CHANGING diapers not
WEARING them might appreciate this.
Heh, yeah, I'm having real nostalgia pangs reading this. Maybe we sould
take this to freebsd-oldfarts@.
the amazing nostalgia man
(which the
Re.
PET 2001-8
etc
Ancient google archives might be better on chat@ not hackers@ , however,
You may want to look at
http://www.vintage.org http://www.vcf.orgVintage Computer Fest
http://www.vcfe.org Vintage Computer Fest Europa,
Ancient google archives might be better on chat@ not hackers@ , however,
You may want to look at
http://www.vintage.org http://www.vcf.orgVintage Computer Fest
http://www.vcfe.org Vintage Computer Fest Europa,
Old people don't do chat. Don't worry. Most of us can't
Doug Rabson wrote:
That brings back memories. We wrote our own firmware for the 1541 since
the commodore DOS was so slow. I forget what transfer rate we managed but
it was much better than the standard code. Bit of a sod to debug though.
Fastest I ever saw with a firmware hack was 53k...
--
On Tuesday 08 January 2002 19:45, Terry Lambert wrote:
Doug Rabson wrote:
That brings back memories. We wrote our own firmware for the 1541 since
the commodore DOS was so slow. I forget what transfer rate we managed but
it was much better than the standard code. Bit of a sod to debug
Miguel Mendez wrote:
Now that I'm subscribed to c64-hackers let's do some lda's here an there. I
even have some Oxyron demo disks around :)
How about BSD for the 6510? ;-P
There's no GCC for it, and some idiot keeps converting things
to ANSI C, so I have an incredibly hard time compiling
:
:That brings back memories. We wrote our own firmware for the 1541 since
:the commodore DOS was so slow. I forget what transfer rate we managed but
:it was much better than the standard code. Bit of a sod to debug though.
:
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:Doug RabsonMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Julian Stacey wrote:
You may want to look at
http://www.vintage.org http://www.vcf.orgVintage Computer Fest
http://www.vcfe.org Vintage Computer Fest Europa,
http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/vcfe/ A BSD box designed by Bill Jollitz.
Add to that a friend
:Unix!
:
:I've got _all_ the original CBM stuff for the VIC-20 and C-64, hardware
:and hardcopy. Even some aftermarket FDDs.
:
:I poked a _lot_ of stuff from Compute!, including the assembler, and
:have several of their wire-bound books, too.
:
:I've got the 6502 monitor and 300bps modem
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 01:38:15PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:Those were the days, my friends...
:Dave
Ah yes. By the time I was ready to throw my PET away the hardware
inside was so hacked up I don't think anybody but me could boot the
thing. I had replaced the character
In a message dated 01/08/2002 2:11:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Miguel Mendez wrote:
Now that I'm subscribed to c64-hackers let's do some lda's here an
there.
I
even have some Oxyron demo disks around :)
How about BSD for the 6510? ;-P
Can I
On Jan 08, at 01:38 PM, Matthew Dillon wrote:
Ah yes. By the time I was ready to throw my PET away the hardware
inside was so hacked up I don't think anybody but me could boot the
thing.
[SNIP]
-Matt
I've never been much of a hardware hacker, but my
:Hm. 2 months ago I removed a SMD multifunction I/O chip from a dual
:CPU slot 1 mainboard. And put a new (well, had to desolder that one
:from a donor mainboard) chip back on. It *is* doable, but you need a
:stereo microscope, a Weller fine-pointed thermocontrolled soldering iron and
:lots of
If memory serves me right, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 01/08/2002 2:11:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Miguel Mendez wrote:
Now that I'm subscribed to c64-hackers let's do some lda's here an
there.
I
even have some Oxyron demo disks
Matthew Dillon wrote:
Ah yes. By the time I was ready to throw my PET away the hardware
inside was so hacked up I don't think anybody but me could boot the
thing. I had replaced the character generator ROM with a RAM and wired
in a wire select to an unused bank, which meant
:UGH. You didn't load the RAM from the ROM at power on?!?
:
:We had the high resolution graphics board in one machine; it's
:where I did my first ray tracing code, for an Optics class. Now
:*that* was a cool third party board, replacing the character
:generator output with bitmapped graphics,
On Jan 08, at 02:58 PM, Terry Lambert wrote:
8-). Quick, what are A0, A2, and A4, and what are their
operands? What's the difference between 4C and 6C? 8-) 8-).
LDY imm, LDX imm, LDY zpg. JMP abs vs. JMP ind.
HA!
-- Terry
Dave
--
__
:...
: in a wire select to an unused bank, which meant the screen was spaghetti
: on power-up until i LOAD'd a copy of the character set.
:
:UGH. You didn't load the RAM from the ROM at power on?!?
No extra rom slots. Had to load from tape or floppy.
:We had the high resolution
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 02:36:55PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:Hm. 2 months ago I removed a SMD multifunction I/O chip from a dual
:CPU slot 1 mainboard. And put a new (well, had to desolder that one
:from a donor mainboard) chip back on. It *is* doable, but you need a
:stereo microscope,
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote:
I had wired in an extra 16K of dynamic ram, giving me 48K
total (bank selected) (imagine piggy-backing a bank of 14
or 16 pin DIPs on another bank and soldering each lead,
except for the select, to the one below).
Yes, now imagine
If memory serves me right, Matthew Dillon wrote:
But, do you know what '02' does? On an original 6502? The 6502
was a hardwired processor, which means that even the hex codes that
didn't have an official instruction did things. Weird things to be
sure, but things
Okay.
Could we move the trip(s) down memory lane to some other mailing list?
I'm certainly old enough to wax nostalgic about many things, but somehow
freebsd-hackers doesn't seem to be an appropriate place to do that.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Senior Systems
Mats Lofkvist wrote:
Still have my SWTPc clone built around -83. Wire-wrapped from
Never went beyond FLEX and a pair of floppies though, and cheated
I was part of a 4 man team for a better DOS for the SWTPC M6800 in
79/80, I still have email contact with one of the fellow students
who
Nils Holland wrote:
I should probably dedicate a weekend to find out if these 200+ C64 disks in
my collection are still working (that is, if I get my 1541-II's properly
alaigned again...)
Doubtless some will have bad sectors by now. Here's a rescue tool:
Oh my god. I don't even *remember* writing this one! This was when
I was 18. Google's archive isn't complete but they've done an incredible
job getting as much as they have.
Pet, C64, DMail, Shell (for the amiga), backup/restore utilities,
dme, dterm, AmigaUUCP, DICE, etc.
On 2002-01-07 13:28 -0800, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh my god. I don't even *remember* writing this one! This was when
I was 18. Google's archive isn't complete but they've done an incredible
job getting as much as they have.
Yes, Google is indeed great. Now
Oooohh!! Those model numbers bring back memories!!
I remember drooling over the first Commodore Pet (the one with the
rectangular keyboard) in one of the many computer shops that were springing
up at the time.
If anyone's interested, I've got a 2nd edition of Nick Hampshire's 'The Pet
Danny Horne wrote:
Oooohh!! Those model numbers bring back memories!!
I remember drooling over the first Commodore Pet (the one with the
rectangular keyboard) in one of the many computer shops that were springing
up at the time.
Drool away, buddy! Here's mine, and it still works
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 04:26:54PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
Danny Horne wrote:
Oooohh!! Those model numbers bring back memories!!
I remember drooling over the first Commodore Pet (the one with the
rectangular keyboard) in one of the many computer shops that were springing
up at
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Space Invaders Anyone? 8-) 8-)
Does that just have LAN support, or does it support internet play too? I
forgot when they made that transition...
Mike Silby Silbersack
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In a message dated 01/07/2002 7:32:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Drool away, buddy! Here's mine, and it still works (chicklet
keyboard, built in cassette drive, metal filing cabinet company
case,40 character BW monitor, and all):
PET 2001-8
SN:
[moved to -chat]
On Monday, 7 January 2002 at 21:21:54 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 01/07/2002 7:32:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Drool away, buddy! Here's mine, and it still works (chicklet
keyboard, built in cassette drive, metal filing
Does that just have LAN support, or does it support internet play too? I
forgot when they made that transition...
If it even has LAN support, you should be able to play it over the
internet. Just get creative with vtun, tap and ng_bridge =)
DocWilco
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On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:45:23PM -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote:
On 2002-01-07 13:28 -0800, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh my god. I don't even *remember* writing this one! This was when
I was 18. Google's archive isn't complete but they've done an incredible
job
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Think they have the code to the C64 supermon assembler? I spend 3 evenings
poking it in from Compute! and now I can't find the cassette anywhere.
I have that somewhere. I also have the Compute! with it in
it. 8-). If you want to download it, you can get it from
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny
Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Oooohh!! Those model numbers bring back memories!!
I remember drooling over the first Commodore Pet (the one with the
rectangular keyboard) in one of the many computer shops that were springing
up at the time.
When my school
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Josef Grosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Yea, but aren't you STILL posting to alt.life.sucks? I'v move on to
: alt.freebsd.rocks.microsoft.sucks
/me does all his popsting in alt.freebsd.daemon.daemon.daemon these
days.
Warner
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On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:52:52PM +, Mike Silbersack wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Space Invaders Anyone? 8-) 8-)
Does that just have LAN support, or does it support internet play too? I
Internet?? UUCP dialup please ;-)
..!mcvax!philapd!wilko :-) I just found
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