Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Horatiu Moldovan
On 24/10/2016 03:22, Julian H. Stacey wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote: For policy, I'd suggest the creation of a flag "Socially deprecated" that would leave it in the tree but clue people up that there's potentially something unsavory about it. Snap ! Seconded :-) Same as my Mon, 24 Oct

Re: Fails to build math/libqalculate

2016-10-23 Thread Jason E. Hale
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Baho Utot > wrote: > >> Sending this again as I have had mail server issues >> >> There is no src/Makefile.in only src/Makefile.am >> >> >>

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2016-10-23 Thread داايم سعوودي
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Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Thomas Mueller
> Why can't we accept that a program which may be well over 30 years old, > hasn't seen any update since 20 years, is more or less lost since some > time and has no technical value (it's just some parody of a text filter) > can be removed from the tree? Anyone who needs this port can install it >

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > > that makes them look like a bunch of out-of-touch clueless old white > > guys; > > Inflamatory language degrades, Mature language builds. In a mail thread about jive that finding is very mature 8-} -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 4 years to go !

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
scratch65...@att.net wrote: > For policy, I'd suggest the creation of a flag "Socially > deprecated" that would leave it in the tree but clue people up > that there's potentially something unsavory about it. Snap ! Seconded :-) Same as my Mon, 24 Oct 2016 01:05:52 +0200 SENSITIVE= but

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, Reference: > From: Mark Linimon > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:11:07 -0500 Mark Linimon wrote Henk van Oers : > Thank you for your very nice troll. > > I was going to work on some FreeBSD stuff today but now I think > I'll find

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> Beside any discussion on wether or not misc/jives was offensive, note that = > there > is actually no upstream and no public distfile left for this port, this is = > also > a reason for it to be nuked. I have a distfile (as obviously do various others who have similarly just compiled for first

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 01:31:04PM +0200, Alphons van Werven wrote: > > I'm still half waiting for someone with misguided delusions of moral > > superiority to delete that port, thinking it's their decision to make > > that FreeBSD must not enable people to display their

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Mikhail T. (mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com): > > It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. > If it was "decent" in 1997, when obrien added it, it must still be > decent today, only 19 years later. Nothing has changed about "decency" > since then. Oh, it has changed. And it

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Mikhail T.
On 22.10.2016 Mark Linimon wrote: It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. If it was "decent" in 1997, when obrien added it, it must still be decent today, only 19 years later. Nothing has changed about "decency" since then. juvenile junk that makes them look like a

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Roger Marquis
Rod Person wrote: anything that can used to create text or graphics can be used to promote hatred, discrimination or violence "can used to" != "promotes" && "recursive logic" != "logic. Surely there are better arguments against deprecating jive. If PyCon can implement a Code of Conduct

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread scratch65535
[Default] On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:32:00 +0200, Martin Waschbüsch wrote: > >> Am 23.10.2016 um 20:00 schrieb scratch65...@att.net: >> >> For policy, I'd suggest the creation of a flag "Socially >> deprecated" that would leave it in the tree but clue people up >> that

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread scratch65535
[Default] On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:30:05 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >El día Sunday, October 23, 2016 a las 02:13:12PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net >escribió: > >> I've to disagree, Matthias. Technical people refusing to be >> part of the social world make themselves the tools

Re: links not created by make install

2016-10-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 08:15:34PM +0200, Piotr Szafarczyk wrote: > Hi All, > > Tell me where / how to diagnose the error please. > > I have got a system upgraded from 10.1. Problems started with rebuilding > ports depending on perl. bin/perl5 and bin/perl5.20.3 were missing. It looks > like

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
> Am 23.10.2016 um 20:00 schrieb scratch65...@att.net: > > For policy, I'd suggest the creation of a flag "Socially > deprecated" that would leave it in the tree but clue people up > that there's potentially something unsavory about it. As others have already said, it is unlikely that we could

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, October 23, 2016 a las 02:13:12PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net escribió: > I've to disagree, Matthias. Technical people refusing to be > part of the social world make themselves the tools of > psychopaths. Then we have, as the mordant joke goes, the program > nuke_germany being

links not created by make install

2016-10-23 Thread Piotr Szafarczyk
Hi All, Tell me where / how to diagnose the error please. I have got a system upgraded from 10.1. Problems started with rebuilding ports depending on perl. bin/perl5 and bin/perl5.20.3 were missing. It looks like port building does not create links (after perl the same was with postfix,

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread scratch65535
I've to disagree, Matthias. Technical people refusing to be part of the social world make themselves the tools of psychopaths. Then we have, as the mordant joke goes, the program nuke_germany being objected to not on humanitarian grounds, but because the program should be nuke_country with the

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread scratch65535
For policy, I'd suggest the creation of a flag "Socially deprecated" that would leave it in the tree but clue people up that there's potentially something unsavory about it. On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 06:41:10 -0700 (PDT), Roger Marquis wrote: >Louis Epstein wrote: >> You really

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Mark Linimon
Thank you for your very nice troll. I was going to work on some FreeBSD stuff today but now I think I'll find something better to do. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Louis Epstein
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Alphons van Werven wrote: > Louis Epstein wrote: > > > In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is > > detected on my system. > > > > This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to > > "we will no longer let you upgrade your

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Eduardo Morras via freebsd-ports
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:51:12 +0200 (CEST) Henk van Oers wrote: > > A sword is a bladed weapon intended for slashing or thrusting. > > And also: "Framework for manipulating Bible texts" > > Is that what misc/jive does? > > You can not kill with a jive > but you can kill

Resurrecting games/wmfortune (Was: Re: misc/jive deleted)

2016-10-23 Thread Alphons van Werven
Dave Horsfall wrote: >> There used to be "offensive" (a term to be taken rather loosely in this >> case) fortune cookies, but they got kicked out somewhere in 9.X. That >> was the base system though; not the ports tree. > > Not to mention "fortune -o" (to get the obscene versions) and there

Fwd: Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Alphons van Werven
Louis Epstein wrote: > In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is > detected on my system. > > This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to > "we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you > have this one installed". To be fair,

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 06:22:53PM +0200, Henk van Oers wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > [ software that hurts _me_ ] > > Come on, isn't there some PR to work on 8-} ? > > Yes, restore misc/jive. > Beside any discussion on wether or not misc/jives was offensive, note that

Re: Fails to build math/libqalculate

2016-10-23 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Baho Utot wrote: > Sending this again as I have had mail server issues > > There is no src/Makefile.in only src/Makefile.am > > > /usr/ports/math/libqalculate # make > ===> License GPLv2 accepted by the user > ===> Found saved

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Henk van Oers
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Kurt Jaeger wrote: [ software that hurts _me_ ] Come on, isn't there some PR to work on 8-} ? Yes, restore misc/jive. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To

Re: texlive appears broken

2016-10-23 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 06:14:20PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Chris H wrote: > >> > >> I actually was puzzled with texlive not installing and remembered > >> seeing someone had issues with the new collate stuff. I simply > >> tried

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 06:41:10AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: > Louis Epstein wrote: > > You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use. > > The meaning of this is unclear as anyone can still compile jive on their > own outside of the ports tree. WRT ports, they should

Re: texlive appears broken

2016-10-23 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Chris H wrote: >> >> I actually was puzzled with texlive not installing and remembered >> seeing someone had issues with the new collate stuff. I simply >> tried the latter setting with a "Let's see what happens". It worked. >> >> Moral 1

Re: misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > A sword is a bladed weapon intended for slashing or thrusting. To quote the pkg-descr: The SWORD Project is the CrossWire Bible Society's free Bible software project. Its purpose is to create cross-platform open-source tools, covered by the GNU General Public License, that allow

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
I think, we should end this thread. The port was removed, sure with good reasons. If someone wants to use it. he can pull out from svn the old port and continue with it to maintain. matthias -- Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Is this -- being more inclusive (whatever that means) -- > even a valid goal for a technical project? That depends on those working on the project. If they wonder why systems programming is so one-sided when it cames to age, gender, race, etc, then: yes, it becomes a goal. Please

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > Who exactly was offended by the existence of misc/jive in ports? Were > there any actual complaints? How many? One, in August. portmgr had a look at the port and decided on the removal. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 4 years to go !

misc/sword should be removed

2016-10-23 Thread Henk van Oers
A sword is a bladed weapon intended for slashing or thrusting. And also: "Framework for manipulating Bible texts" Is that what misc/jive does? You can not kill with a jive but you can kill with manipulating bible texts. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Rod Person
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 06:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Roger Marquis wrote: > Louis Epstein wrote: > > You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people > > use. > > The meaning of this is unclear as anyone can still compile jive on > their own outside of the ports tree.

Re: Jive prejudices

2016-10-23 Thread Roger Marquis
Louis Epstein wrote: You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use. The meaning of this is unclear as anyone can still compile jive on their own outside of the ports tree. WRT ports, they should be subject to the same policies as base. The meta questions here are: A)

Re: misc/jive deleted

2016-10-23 Thread Marko Cupać
Hi, Who exactly was offended by the existence of misc/jive in ports? Were there any actual complaints? How many? Regards, -- Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water. After enlightenment - chop wood, draw water. Marko Cupać https://www.mimar.rs/

Fails to build math/libqalculate

2016-10-23 Thread Baho Utot
Sending this again as I have had mail server issues There is no src/Makefile.in only src/Makefile.am /usr/ports/math/libqalculate # make ===> License GPLv2 accepted by the user ===> Found saved configuration for libqalculate-0.9.10 ===> libqalculate-0.9.10 depends on file: