Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-06-01 Thread Mel Flynn
On 31-5-2012 5:00, Doug Barton wrote: On 05/30/2012 12:32, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 19:06, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/29/2012 4:00 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: Right. The issue I'm talking about is that fixing the problem of staying with a version, introduces

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-30 Thread Mel Flynn
On 29-5-2012 19:06, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/29/2012 4:00 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: Not too hard for leaf ports. But with ports that are depended on, there is always a default, whether it's named that way or not. You're just changing the problem slightly:

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 5/30/12 3:32 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: Right. The issue I'm talking about is that fixing the problem of staying with a version, introduces a problem for people that have their software up-to-date and don't use deprecated features. Instead of simply upgrading they now have to jump through hoops

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-30 Thread Doug Barton
On 05/29/2012 12:08, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:48:00AM -0700 I heard the voice of Doug Barton, and lo! it spake thus: The whole concept of category/portname where there are multiple versions of portname is flawed. The DEFAULT_PORTNAME_VER mechanism works just fine,

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-30 Thread Doug Barton
On 05/30/2012 12:32, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 19:06, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/29/2012 4:00 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: Not too hard for leaf ports. But with ports that are depended on, there is always a default, whether it's named that way or not. You're

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-30 Thread Doug Barton
On 05/30/2012 12:48, Michael Scheidell wrote: Ditto on perl. UPDATING is wrong on steps. you can't upgrade perl, you need to delete it and everything it depends on and start from scratch. For portmaster, you can do this which catches the majority of problems. portmaster -o lang/perlNEWVER

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-29 Thread Mel Flynn
On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/21/2012 9:40 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think that the best will be to not have any default php5 port and just use php52, php53, php54, php5X, php60... as we have apache20, apache22, apache24, or mysql50-server, mysql51-server, mysql55-server.

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/29/2012 4:00 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/21/2012 9:40 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think that the best will be to not have any default php5 port and just use php52, php53, php54, php5X, php60... as we have apache20, apache22, apache24, or

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-29 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/29/2012 11:25 AM, Olli Hauer wrote: On 2012-05-29 19:06, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/29/2012 4:00 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: On 29-5-2012 7:23, Doug Barton wrote: On 5/21/2012 9:40 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think that the best will be to not have any default php5 port and just use php52,

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-29 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:48:00AM -0700 I heard the voice of Doug Barton, and lo! it spake thus: With respect to those involved, the lang/python port is a special kind of problem. I agree. IME, it causes more confusion than it solves. I don't ever bother having lang/python on any systems;

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/21/2012 9:40 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think that the best will be to not have any default php5 port and just use php52, php53, php54, php5X, php60... as we have apache20, apache22, apache24, or mysql50-server, mysql51-server, mysql55-server. There is no default apache2 or

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 5/21/12 11:17 AM, George Kontostanos wrote: Because currently there is no other way to do it unless you delete all your php5 packages and recompile them again under php53. I think there was a published 'hack' to let you rename everything php5-php53 in /var/db/pkg and /var/db/ports. This

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Chris Rees
On May 21, 2012 4:17 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I just wanted to understand why did php54 became the default php port. Considering that the majority of my clients want to stick with php53 with the susosin patch, I can't blame them, it is really very

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 5/21/12 11:36 AM, Chris Rees wrote: When would have been a better time? after it was regression tested? after the security posture (susosin patch) wasn't downgraded? -- Michael Scheidell, CTO *| * SECNAP Network Security Corporation d: +1.561.948.2259 w:

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Jason Hellenthal
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 06:40:11PM +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Jason Hellenthal wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:38:50AM -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 5/21/12 11:36 AM, Chris Rees wrote: When would have been a better time? after it was regression tested? after the

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread George Kontostanos
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote: On May 21, 2012 4:17 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I just wanted to understand why did php54 became the default php port. Considering that the majority of my clients want to stick with

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Olivier Mueller
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 18:40 +0200, Miroslav Lachman wrote: I think that the best will be to not have any default php5 port and just use php52, php53, php54, php5X, php60... as we have apache20, apache22, apache24, or mysql50-server, mysql51-server, mysql55-server. +1 I really appreciate

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-21 Thread Etienne Robillard
On 05/21/2012 02:51 PM, George Kontostanos wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Chris Reesutis...@gmail.com wrote: On May 21, 2012 4:17 PM, George Kontostanosgkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I just wanted to understand why did php54 became the default php port. Considering that

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-15 Thread Olivier Mueller
Hi Svyatoslav, On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 03:12 +0900, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: 2012/4/19 Alex Dupre a...@freebsd.org: FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm just waiting for final release of suhosin (both patch and extension)

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-15 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
2012/5/15 Olivier Mueller om-lists-...@omx.ch: FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm just waiting for final release of suhosin (both patch and extension) to commit the update. Do you know the release date of suhosin for

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 5/15/12 11:05 AM, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: So I think we need release a new version without suhosin patch and check the compatibility of all ports that depend on it (before), and then when suhosin will appear (if there), then simply add it to the port. -1 susosin patch is not a

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-15 Thread Eitan Adler
On 15 May 2012 11:17, Michael Scheidell scheid...@freebsd.org wrote: -1 susosin patch is not a 'compatibility' issue.  it is a security issue. I would consider recommending a lang/php54 port, for people who absolutely need it.  include the 'WITH_SUHOSIN_PATCH' knob and mark it 'IGNORE' so that

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-11 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
2012/4/19 Alex Dupre a...@freebsd.org: FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm just waiting for final release of suhosin (both patch and extension) to commit the update. Do you know the release date of suhosin for this version?

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-05-11 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 5/11/12 2:12 PM, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: 2012/4/19 Alex Duprea...@freebsd.org: FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm just waiting for final release of suhosin (both patch and extension) to commit the update. Do you know

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-04-19 Thread Alex Dupre
Svyatoslav Lempert ha scritto: FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm just waiting for final release of suhosin (both patch and extension) to commit the update. -- Alex Dupre ___

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-04-18 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
Hello, Alex! FreeBSD 8.3 is done, please commit update lang/php5 to PHP 5.4 to portstree. Thank you in advance. I'm really waiting for this moment because I was going to install a large number of new servers with the new version of PHP (version 5.4 should be so you do not have a problem with a

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-04-12 Thread Florian Smeets
On 12.03.12 09:45, Alex Dupre wrote: Mr Dandy wrote: May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? Probably current maintainer of php (@ale) has the plan ;) released, then probably you should stick to lang/php52 port, or find a

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-19 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
Anyway I think that the steps of launching a new port/port usage/port deprecation is necessary for this exact reason. The other way would be to freeze all the tree from time to time (i.e. several months) and ask projects maintainers/developers to stick to each freeze. FreeBSD system do

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread Alex Dupre
Mr Dandy wrote: May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? Probably current maintainer of php (@ale) has the plan ;) I've already created patches to update the current php5 port to 5.4. I'm waiting for fixes to other main

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Alex Dupre wrote: Mr Dandy wrote: May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? Probably current maintainer of php (@ale) has the plan ;) I've already created patches to update the current php5 port to 5.4. I'm waiting for fixes to

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:19:40 +0100 Miroslav Lachman articulated: I really understand that you don't have a time or will to maintain more than 1 version of PHP - it is not an easy task. But what is the difference between more versions of PHP in the ports tree and more versions of Python,

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread endzed
Le 12 mars 2012 à 09:45, Alex Dupre a écrit : Mr Dandy wrote: May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? Probably current maintainer of php (@ale) has the plan ;) I've already created patches to update the current php5

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Jerry wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:19:40 +0100 Miroslav Lachman articulated: I really understand that you don't have a time or will to maintain more than 1 version of PHP - it is not an easy task. But what is the difference between more versions of PHP in the ports tree and more versions of

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-12 Thread endzed
Le 12 mars 2012 à 15:00, Miroslav Lachman a écrit : Jerry wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:19:40 +0100 Miroslav Lachman articulated: I really understand that you don't have a time or will to maintain more than 1 version of PHP - it is not an easy task. But what is the difference between

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-11 Thread Mr Dandy
On Sunday 11 March 2012 19:29:09 Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: Hello, please look http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165933 May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? Probably current maintainer of php (@ale) has the plan ;)

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-11 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
2012/3/12 Mr Dandy oleg.ginzb...@nevosoft.ru: please look http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165933 May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? No, I wrote about this a few weeks ago to ports@ - PHP 5.4 is not compatible

Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54

2012-03-11 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Mr Dandy wrote: On Sunday 11 March 2012 19:29:09 Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: Hello, please look http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165933 May be more correctly set PHP 5.4 by default to lang/php5, and repocopy current lang/php5 into lang/php53? It is to early to make it a default PHP