Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-09 Thread Erwin Lansing
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 04:45:30PM -0700, Xin LI wrote: Both portmaster and portupgrade have 'package' mode, which uses packages when available. If one can live with default optimization (which is usually good anyways) and if most times the default options would satisfy his/her need, or if

Re: The cost of a source based package system

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
- no 'make clean' and reusing the object files of the current version for building the new, updated, version. That should save significant compilation time. Does that work as of today? I doubt that that will work in that form. In fact, I quite like that 'make clean' in ports throws away

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:27:51AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:54:36PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: Changing to a hypothetical example, why would an Apache vulnerability in mod_rewrite in the least bit bother a person

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.org wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: I want machines, tools, to do as *I* say not the other way round, whether it's good for me or not. If I wanted nannying and interference, I'd install Ubuntu. No,

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Greg Byshenk wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:27:51AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:54:36PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: Changing to a hypothetical example, why would an Apache vulnerability in mod_rewrite in the least bit

[RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Freebsd-ports. I notice, that many software projects are hosted on social DVCS hostings nowadays. Other common feature among them is absence of official tarballs for versions. I don't say, that ALL projects whith primary hosting on these DVCS sites don't publish official tarballs. But

What is difference between ${MASTER_SITE_GNU}/${MASTER_SITE_SUNSITE} and SF/CPAN in MASTER_SITES?

2011-09-09 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Freebsd-ports. Why some groups of sites in ports system are make variables and some -- special strings? -- // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete*

2011-09-09 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:33:08 +0200 (CEST) lini...@freebsd.org wrote: portname: german/ksteak description:KDE frontend for steak, an english - german dictionary maintainer: po...@freebsd.org deprecated because: Development has ceased. expiration date:2011-09-01

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.org wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: What the current FreeBSD policy of actively deleting perfectly usable ports instead of putting a mild hurdle in the way is saying, is that FreeBSD will stop me doing

Standalone mksh

2011-09-09 Thread Aioanei Rares
Hi all, I wanted to propose the addition of a standalone mksh in shells/, which , of course, is compiled with -static and installs to /bin . Attached is the modified Makefile. Thanks, -- Rares Aioanei Makefile Description: Binary data ___

net-snmp-5.7_3 issue with tcpCurrEstab

2011-09-09 Thread Uffe R. B. Andersen
Hi, Since upgrading to version 5.7, the Gauge32 of .1.3.6.1.2.1.6.9.0 (TCP-MIB::tcpCurrEstab.0) only returns zero. Tested on 8.2-RELEASE-p2 with 5.7_3 today. -- Med venlig hilsen - Sincerely Uffe R. B. Andersen - mailto:u...@twe.net http://blog.andersen.nu/

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Matt Burke
On 09/08/11 17:54, Matthias Andree wrote: The port isn't perfectly usable (because that would mean it's usable in all circumstances for all advertised purposes, which is explicitly not the case in the light of known vulnerabilities). In British Engligh at least, perfectly can mean adequately

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 02:30:52PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: Hello, Freebsd-ports. I notice, that many software projects are hosted on social DVCS hostings nowadays. Other common feature among them is absence of official tarballs for versions. I don't say, that ALL projects whith

Re: What is difference between ${MASTER_SITE_GNU}/${MASTER_SITE_SUNSITE} and SF/CPAN in MASTER_SITES?

2011-09-09 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Lev Serebryakov wrote on 09.09.2011 14:35: Hello, Freebsd-ports. Why some groups of sites in ports system are make variables and some -- special strings? They are not. You can use both ${MASTER_SITE_GNU} and just GNU (it will expanded automatically to corresponding make variable). Just

net/clamz should have pkg-message on how to set cookie to download amz-files

2011-09-09 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
When reinstalling net/clamz I noticed that it is necessary to have a cookie from the local amazon site (amazon.com, amazon.de) confirming that the amazon downloader is installed when in fact it is not and you are using clamz. That information will only be accessible from the project website,

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
The main problem with that is: we have no way to keep a valid sum of the distfiles if it is autogenerated (in particular with github) and this sum is really important. With github this fortunately is a non-issue. Even though they autogenerate their tar balls, they keep enough information to

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Baptiste. You wrote 9 сентября 2011 г., 17:04:58: The main problem with that is: we have no way to keep a valid sum of the distfiles if it is autogenerated (in particular with github) and this sum is really important. I've thought about checksums, but my simple experiment shows, that

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
I've thought about checksums, but my simple experiment shows, that tag-related (not tip-related, of course) archives give same chsum after re-downloading in short time. But I don't check it for long-term stability. Well, let's do at least one check with a one and a half year old tar ball.

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Klaus. You wrote 9 сентября 2011 г., 17:24:37: * due to autogeneration, you're quite likely to get a http-redirect, Does fetch support redirects? * filenames like 2011.07.25 are not too suitable for a distfile. DIST_SUBIDR=${PORTNAME} is solution for this. -- // Black Lion AKA Lev

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
* due to autogeneration, you're quite likely to get a http-redirect, Does fetch support redirects? Yes. But for good reasons, Mk/bsd.ports.mk contains the line FETCH_ARGS?=-AFpr Note the -A. Of course, it's no problem to make an exception for github, but at least, one should be aware of

Re: Same concerns about our postgresql and plpython ports

2011-09-09 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 02:17:09PM +0400, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: Hi, for me it's too many time has passed for maintainer timeout. Please commit this anybody, until this port wasn't removed because it doesn't builds with some NOTEXISTENT PostgreSQL version. Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote on

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 02:24:37PM +0100, Klaus T. Aehlig wrote: The main problem with that is: we have no way to keep a valid sum of the distfiles if it is autogenerated (in particular with github) and this sum is really important. With github this fortunately is a non-issue. Even

Re: Same concerns about our postgresql and plpython ports

2011-09-09 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 06:26:13PM +0400, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: 3. postgresql9x-client unbreak: Taking those three. Will test them on the coming Monday and will commit afterwards. Hmm, actually only http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=159844 the others are already committed.

subversion 1.7.0-rc2 port - second revision

2011-09-09 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, FreeBSD. New revision of this vital port. Changes: (1) No external FreeBSD hack patch anymore -- ${PATCH_DIR} located extra-patches instead. (2) FreeBSD hacks splitted into three: (a) Perforce-style conflict markers (b) Enhanced keywords (c) FreeBSD-specific

Re: Same concerns about our postgresql and plpython ports

2011-09-09 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov
Eygene Ryabinkin wrote on 09.09.2011 18:38: Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 06:26:13PM +0400, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: 3. postgresql9x-client unbreak: Taking those three. Will test them on the coming Monday and will commit afterwards. Hmm, actually only

mod_gnutls

2011-09-09 Thread Dash Shendy
Good day, I'm the current maintainer (as of July 2011) of mod_gnutls. I have noticed that you are responsible the FreeBSD port, and have include the current version (0.5.10). I greatly appreciate your help. The latest tarball can be downloaded from mod_gnutls' official page at:

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
Until recently, github required two requests to get a tarball: one to initiate the tarball creation, the other to download it. Yes, that's what I remember. The URL you got after the first redirect was then good for a couple of days -- till eventually it wasn't used for long enough time and the

Re: [RFC] New ports idea: github / gitorious / bitbucket direct support.

2011-09-09 Thread Shaun Amott
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:05:42PM +0100, Klaus T. Aehlig wrote: * due to autogeneration, you're quite likely to get a http-redirect, Does fetch support redirects? Yes. But for good reasons, Mk/bsd.ports.mk contains the line FETCH_ARGS?=-AFpr Note the -A. Of course, it's no

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.org wrote: Am 08.09.2011 13:52, schrieb Matt Burke: I want machines, tools, to do as *I* say not the other way round, whether it's good for me or not. If I wanted nannying

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 09.09.2011 14:38, schrieb Matt Burke: If someone deletes a package I use from ports, they are FORCING me to jump through an awful load of hoops to get what I want/need. No. If people would please take note that the package does *not* magically disappear from your computers because someone

Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete*

2011-09-09 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 09.09.2011 13:15, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:33:08 +0200 (CEST) lini...@freebsd.org wrote: portname: german/ksteak description:KDE frontend for steak, an english - german dictionary maintainer: po...@freebsd.org deprecated because:

Re: OpenCASCADE port outdated

2011-09-09 Thread Thierry Thomas
Le mar 6 sep 11 à 17:10:01 +0200, Andrea Venturoli m...@netfence.it écrivait : Hello. Hello, Port is at 6.3, but 6.5.1 is out. Is upgrading under way or planned? Yes, I know, but unfortunately I have been too busy. Hope to work on it RSN. Anyway, patches are welcome! Regards, -- Th.

git distfiles on the local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread b. f.
Could someone please place the latest devel/git distfiles on the local mirrors, so that they are available while kernel.org is recovering from being hacked? The github mirror only has gzipped development tarballs, that don't work with the current ports Makefile. b.

Re: git distfiles on the local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:37:08PM +, b. f. wrote: Could someone please place the latest devel/git distfiles on the local mirrors, so that they are available while kernel.org is recovering from being hacked? The github mirror only has gzipped development tarballs, that don't work with the

Re: Standalone mksh

2011-09-09 Thread Chris Brennan
On 9/9/2011 7:35 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote: Hi all, I wanted to propose the addition of a standalone mksh in shells/, which , of course, is compiled with -static and installs to /bin . Attached is the modified Makefile. Thanks, Aioanei, No attachment, I think it got filtered out by the

Re: git distfiles on the local mirror

2011-09-09 Thread Wesley Shields
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 09:37:08PM +, b. f. wrote: Could someone please place the latest devel/git distfiles on the local mirrors, so that they are available while kernel.org is recovering from being hacked? The github mirror only has gzipped development tarballs, that don't work with the

Re: Standalone mksh

2011-09-09 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/9/11 9:48 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: On 9/9/2011 7:35 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote: Attached is the modified Makefile. Thanks, Aioanei, No attachment, I think it got filtered out by the list. I received the Makefile. -- Glen Barber ___

Why was rdiff.1 removed from net/librsync?

2011-09-09 Thread Klaus T. Aehlig
Hallo, I recently had a quick look at net/librsync and was puzzled that it installs rdiff, but not the man page for rdiff. Looking at the history, this has happened with the update to 0.9.6, submitted in PR ports/55469 [1]. However, I fail to see the reason for removing the man page. Leaving it

Re: Standalone mksh

2011-09-09 Thread Eitan Adler
I wanted to propose the addition of a standalone mksh in shells/, which , of course, is compiled with -static and installs to /bin . Attached is the modified Makefile. 1) Please submit unified diffs, not entire files. It makes it easier to see what changed and it makes it easier to actually

Re: deprecated because: Development has ceased??? Maybe development is *complete*

2011-09-09 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:29:15 +0200 Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de wrote: Am 09.09.2011 13:15, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 08:33:08 +0200 (CEST) lini...@freebsd.org wrote: portname: german/ksteak description:KDE frontend for steak, an

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-09 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:05:49 +0200 Matthias Andree matthias.and...@gmx.de wrote: Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 Matthias Andree mand...@freebsd.org wrote: No, you'd use a managed installation. Nobody stands there pointing a gun at