Re: firefox or what?
On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:43:33 + "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > from Andrea Venturoli: > > > While continuing this thread down the slope it got (with useless > > arguments on netiquette, release engineering, supposed NFS > > incompatibilities, etc...) is a nonsense, I think half the OP's > > original question still holds, i.e.: what viable browsers (other > > than FireFox) do we have available in the port collection? > > > Some times ago, when PaleMoon was removed, I felt the need to find > > an alternative. > > Searching the www categories and excluding text-only browsers, > > still yields a lot of results. > > Some are too lightweight (read: they can't make "modern" > > useless-javascript-crap-infested sites work), some just crash... > > trying them all would be a huge task. > > > So I hoped to collect experiences on this. > > I was favorably impressed by Otter Browser, but have not been able to > update because my FreeBSD installation, 11.1-STABLE, is too far > behind for updating ports. > > I can see Dillo and Netsurf are too lightweight, not up to the > gymnastics required by modern crap-infested websites. > > I would also like to try to build Midori again, a more modern version > than 0.5.11. > > Tom > I am using for some web sites Qutebrowser. It works well but I am not sure how safe it is. -- “Hungry man, reach for the book: it is a weapon.” ― Bertolt Brecht ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: firefox or what?
from Andrea Venturoli: > While continuing this thread down the slope it got (with useless arguments on > netiquette, release engineering, supposed NFS incompatibilities, etc...) is a > nonsense, I think half the OP's original question still holds, i.e.: what > viable browsers (other than FireFox) do we have available in the port > collection? > Some times ago, when PaleMoon was removed, I felt the need to find an > alternative. > Searching the www categories and excluding text-only browsers, still yields a > lot of results. > Some are too lightweight (read: they can't make "modern" > useless-javascript-crap-infested sites work), some just crash... trying them > all would be a huge task. > So I hoped to collect experiences on this. I was favorably impressed by Otter Browser, but have not been able to update because my FreeBSD installation, 11.1-STABLE, is too far behind for updating ports. I can see Dillo and Netsurf are too lightweight, not up to the gymnastics required by modern crap-infested websites. I would also like to try to build Midori again, a more modern version than 0.5.11. Tom ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: firefox
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:20 PM Jack L. wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:51 AM Kevin Oberman > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 1:29 AM Jack L. wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:32 PM Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz> > wrote: > >> > > >> > @lbutlr wrote on 2019/08/12 07:08: > >> > > On 11 Aug 2019, at 20:29, bruce wrote: > >> > >> I have tried firefox. It crashes regularly > >> > > > >> > > That doesn’t sound right. If Firefox is crashing a lot there is > something not quite right with your system or install. > >> > > >> > I am using Seamonkey on everyday basis. Sometimes my computer is > running > >> > 20+ days without reboot and Seamonkey running all the time with 5 > >> > windows and total count of 200+ openned tabs. No crashes at all. > >> > Firefox crashes instantly after start (even if I delete its profile) > >> > Palemoon, Qupzilla, Iridium crashes few times a day. > >> > LibreOffice, Gimp and other apps are running fine. Only browsers are > so > >> > unstable these days. And as you can read I am not alone with this kind > >> > of experience so I don't think it's just my computer problem. > >> > > >> > Miroslav Lachman > >> > >> yup, they don't make browsers like they used to > > > > > > I'll probably regret opening this potential can of worms, but I find > these reports of instability in Firefox surprising. I have used Firfox as > my web browser on FreeBSD for many year, going back to at least Firefox v3 > and probably v2. I can't say I've never had it crash, but in the past year > I can't recall a single crash on FreeBSD. It has been rock solid. So why is > it failing or some people? (I'll note in passing that Firefox has been > somewhat less stable on Windows 7 where it seems to crash every couple of > weeks. > > > > Possibilities include hardware, especially graphics, web sites visited, > and Firefox configuration. Lots of tabs may be an issue as I try to keep my > open tabs under 20. > > I can't imagine trying to deal with 200+, but it must eat a lot of > resources. That may be tied to the failures reported. > > My experience with firefox is it gets slower and slower and slower > until it's practically unusable until it's restarted (even having only > the gmail tab open for days) > Try looking at the memory pressure on your system. Firefox, especially when running heavy-duty pages like gmail. I noticed that rss (res on top) would grow until swapping started. It would continue until my swap partition was full followed by the expected... the system grinding to a halt. I could usually catch it before swap was full and restarting firefox would fix it for a while. If you want to monitor memory use, I suggest sysutils/gkrellm2. To looks at firefox use, "ps -uc | grep firefox" provides the rss for all firefox processes. rss is hte 6th column. You could write a quick script to sum the numbers, but I have just added them up manually. I increased RAM from 4G to 8, the max for the hardware, and that improved things a lot. (If you add memory, don't forget to enlarge swap.) Firefox still is huge, but the system now handles it much better. I checked the INITIAL memory use by Firefox recently and it was nearly 3.7G. And it grows from there. I saw similar issues with chrome, but I no longer use it. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: firefox
On 8/15/19 7:50 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: I'll probably regret opening this potential can of worms, but I find these reports of instability in Firefox surprising. I have used Firfox as my web browser on FreeBSD for many year, going back to at least Firefox v3 and probably v2. I can't say I've never had it crash, but in the past year I can't recall a single crash on FreeBSD. Well, in my case it sometimes crashes. There is also a specific notorious site which can hang it systematically. Due to my limited available time, and the fact that I'm running with a patch (see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=222356), I never bothered to debug it (or just make something out of its cores). AFAICT that patch will be soon obsolete; after I'm back to a somewhat official version, I'll surely dig into this, if the issue persist. bye av. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date
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