Re: Custom base jails for ZFS replication

2016-12-20 Thread Chad Perrin
y out of the ordinary, so I would not be surprised if there is little or no tool support for it. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/list

Re: xfm 1.5 ?

2014-03-12 Thread Chad Perrin
with the help of 'Porter's Handbook' and hopefully get new xfm working on BSD. It might take awhile, though. Don't forget to update the WWW URI for it, which currently points at some kind of alternative medicine site or some such stuff. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Maximizing the use of binary packages and minimizing building packages

2014-02-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 10:39:44PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 09/02/2014 22:18, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:16:52PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/01/2014 19:35, Matt Reimer wrote: That's good news. What should I watch for in order to know when Really Soon Now

Re: Maximizing the use of binary packages and minimizing building packages

2014-02-09 Thread Chad Perrin
to a deadline; I would rather it be done right than done quickly. I'm just interested in having something like an order-of-magnitude guesstimate for how far in the future Real Soon Now will happen. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-20 Thread Chad Perrin
wrong with the PR system when many people obviously find it daunting and discouraging to attempt to use it -- that comes off like a dismissal of the very people who can contribute real value by alerting port maintainers and committers to the fact there are potentially unnoticed issues. -- Chad Perrin

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-20 Thread Chad Perrin
ISP's SMTP server. I think the fact one needs, by default, to have sendmail set up before one can use send-pr is a problem with send-pr as well. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org

Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing

2013-12-19 Thread Chad Perrin
there's anything wrong. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr

Re: The Original VI ?

2013-09-04 Thread Chad Perrin
(by the way)? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Searching the port tree with portmaster?

2013-08-21 Thread Chad Perrin
. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: [HEADSUP] default version of Ruby switched to 1.9

2013-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
. Thank you, I'm sure this took an enormous amount of time and effort on your part. Ditto. I've been waiting for this for quite a while, and I'm glad we've gotten here. Thanks for the hard work, guys. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: PDF viewer that can rotate pages

2013-02-18 Thread Chad Perrin
is a nice pdf reader, and you use 'r' to rotate the page. High five. I came here to say this. (Sorry about the double-send. I think I accidentally replied directly first.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Could someone please maintain www/xxxterm?

2012-08-17 Thread Chad Perrin
a maintainer, could someone please takeover the maintainership? Thank you! PR link: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/169860 Will it be updated to xombrero? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Could someone please maintain www/xxxterm?

2012-08-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 07:40:40PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 09:16:28PM +0800, HU Dong wrote: Hi, all! Several days ago, I sent a PR to update www/xxxterm and ask to takeover maintainership. Since I'm not familiar with diff and patch commands, the progress has

Re: custom license on new port?

2012-06-18 Thread Chad Perrin
I think it would probably be a good idea to specify license in the port Makefile when at all reasonable to do so, considering how simple it is to do so and the fact it may be useful to some users. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: custom license on new port?

2012-06-18 Thread Chad Perrin
to be in the business of deciding that some license that is not already well-represented in the ports system is not good enough on the basis of its relative lack of popularity alone. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Skype 4.0

2012-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
applies to anything that relies on network effects to maintain userbase -- stuff that is only useful if other people are using it too, that is. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Ruby 1.9 as default

2012-06-05 Thread Chad Perrin
result will not be = 1.9.2, for a number of reasons, including the fact that 1.9.3 is when Ruby started using a copyfree license (the Simplified BSD License, or 2-clause BSD License) instead of the previous copyleft license (the GPL). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Please rebuild all ports that depend on PNG

2012-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
as imaginary authorities who claim to be able to provide special security guarantees. So . . . your opinion may be that a self-signed sertificate means virtually nothing, but security in the real world does not operate on unfounded opinions. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: libaio freebsd port

2012-03-19 Thread Chad Perrin
/libaio-oracle/ -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-ports-unsubscr

Re: CFT: new BSD-licensed sort available

2012-03-18 Thread Chad Perrin
by upstream, and support it as a deprecated (perhaps even undocumented) feature in bsdsort just so it's easier to entirely eliminate any dependence on gnusort for purposes of backward compatibility. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: CFT: new BSD-licensed sort available

2012-03-15 Thread Chad Perrin
of a blurb or award description. Is that the Wheeler's Law you mean? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports

Re: CFT: new BSD-licensed sort available

2012-03-14 Thread Chad Perrin
://twitter.com/#!/CopyfreeNews/status/179985533911576576 I'll be testing the bsdsort for my own purposes, and report back if I have any problems. Thanks for the hard work! -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd

Re: Adding licensing info to my ports: some questions

2012-01-19 Thread Chad Perrin
, and this is not intended as legal advice. It's just an expression of frustration at the way everybody seems to think intentionally ignoring licensing will somehow make copyright and license claims invalid. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org

Re: Adding licensing info to my ports: some questions

2012-01-17 Thread Chad Perrin
. It's also completely unclear what any of it means from an actual legal standpoint, and personally I'm not convinced that we aren't making things worse for the project by doing this. How? I don't see the problem that makes things worse, I guess. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL

Re: Adding licensing info to my ports: some questions

2012-01-16 Thread Chad Perrin
, with the understanding that it may not mean anything useful depending on jurisdiction. Beyond that, I probably shouldn't say anything about it on this list. The applicability of plain ol' public domain dedications can be a contentious topic. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: linux-f10-nss_ldap: my first port - be gentle :)

2012-01-07 Thread Chad Perrin
, by providing source code downloads alongside the binary downloads. Is that better? In effect, it's the same thing, but longer. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: new port license question:

2012-01-07 Thread Chad Perrin
to refer to the CC0 license in FreeBSD port makefiles. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: linux-f10-nss_ldap: my first port - be gentle :)

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
] Doesn't pass portlint. Can't fetch the RPM file. Otherwise, a pretty good start. It also lacks license information. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http

Re: linux-f10-nss_ldap: my first port - be gentle :)

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 09:53:25AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 01/05/12 01:41, Chad Perrin wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 02:27:57PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:31:51 +1000 Da Rock freebsd-po...@herveybayaustralia.com.au wrote: I was advised to copy the essential parts

Re: linux-f10-nss_ldap: my first port - be gentle :)

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
of handling the responsibility. This one is not likely to change too much over time, but my skills are probably wanting. The best way to learn, I think, is to get yourself a mentor and jump in. That's how I'm doing it (and yeah, that means I'm not the right person to mentor you). -- Chad Perrin

Re: linux-f10-nss_ldap: my first port - be gentle :)

2012-01-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 12:20:45PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On 01/05/12 12:11, Chad Perrin wrote: The best way to learn, I think, is to get yourself a mentor and jump in. That's how I'm doing it (and yeah, that means I'm not the right person to mentor you). Thats what I'm looking for, alright

Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:07:44AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/ Indeed: Project Activity != Project Health

Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 06:45:48PM +, Chris Rees wrote: On 11 December 2011 18:01, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:07:44AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's

Re: Updating Bash

2011-11-17 Thread Chad Perrin
the very latest updates in the ports systems. It saves valuable time in not having to update a freshly installed system immediately after installing it (usually anyway). Unfortunately, you are not the only user they must consider. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-15 Thread Chad Perrin
your mileage may vary. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpBGGbQAL3wB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:46:10PM +0200, Łukasz Wąsikowski wrote: W dniu 2011-09-15 20:08, Chad Perrin pisze: If there was something broken with a FreeBSD port (a relative rarity), it would fail to install, leaving me with the older version. If there was something wrong with a Gentoo

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-13 Thread Chad Perrin
of the send-pr tools more approachable, if only because this is an interface to ports maintenance that should be available and approachable for *every* user of the OS That's just my relatively uninformed opinion. I welcome corrections of any misunderstandings under which I may labor. -- Chad

Re: Stacey's was: ports-system priorities rant

2011-09-13 Thread Chad Perrin
images of each other. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgprwZAOlJLyL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).

2011-09-12 Thread Chad Perrin
for the majority of yours. Now that you have vented, have you filed a PR against this behavior/port/WTF? If not, I would recommend you do so. . . . as would I. It's interesting you got around to saying something useful. Keep up the good work. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: ports deprecations (was: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
if it's not in the next few weeks, after all. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgphmrMrwk5h2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
working on the assumption that your assertion it should be deprecated and removed does not rely on it no longer building and/or working because of the way you mentioned no longering building and/or working as a parenthetical addendum rather than a condition of deprecation and removal. -- Chad Perrin

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. Why? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpVidnJd8Edb.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 06:48:30PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: On 10 September 2011 18:15, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 04:45:02PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. Why? Someone who wants to install

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:38:55PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 10.09.2011 18:17, schrieb Chad Perrin: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09:16PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: On the other hand, you're pointing out a problem of dead ports in the first place: if the API of (usually library

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
be working anyway. It occurs to me there are people who would call KDE4 a poor port. I suspect deleting that would not go over well. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpdi6O07OpJt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ports-system priorities rant (Re: sysutils/cfs)

2011-09-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 06:36:46PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 08.09.2011 16:15, schrieb Mikhail T.: An obscure piece of software is undesirable (and shouldn't be ported in the first place). Wait -- what? Why should something not be ported if it's not popular? -- Chad Perrin

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-07 Thread Chad Perrin
of the CVS attic, though. I had no idea such a thing existed for old FreeBSD ports until fairly recently, and still don't know much about it. I would think that the porter's handbook, at least, should mention it (perhaps with a brief explanation of why and how one might make use of it). -- Chad Perrin

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-07 Thread Chad Perrin
/ztelnet is no longer in the ports, but: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/ztelnet/?hideattic=0 will list the files and you can download from there. Where is this documented? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpCEAG2Kgybw.pgp Description

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:37:07PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2011-Sep-07 01:35:54 -0600, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote: One thing I've seen come up that I definitely think would be a good idea, though, is more accessible documentation of the CVS attic, though. I had no idea

Re: sysutils/cfs

2011-09-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:57:17PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:25:15AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: My understanding is that you are saying attic is just the standard term for CVS history. Is that the case, or do I misunderstand your point? Almost correct

Re: suggestion for pkgdb from ports-mgmt/portupgrade: add more explanation

2011-09-03 Thread Chad Perrin
at all. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp5DoKdriHyC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Ports system quality

2011-08-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:13:58AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: Chad Perrin wrote: Of course, your goal is apparently to convince me that yours are the correct priorities. Indeed i think having the correct priorities is essential when choosing between different options, and i am sincerely

Re: Why do we not mark vulnerable ports DEPRECATED?

2011-08-30 Thread Chad Perrin
of getting a new maintainer for a popular port when its previous maintainer has been lax (or hit by a bus)? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgphdRX2NJxzy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why do we not mark vulnerable ports DEPRECATED?

2011-08-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:55:25AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: On 08/30/2011 08:29, Chad Perrin wrote: Might that not interfere with the process of getting a new maintainer for a popular port when its previous maintainer has been lax (or hit by a bus)? Sorry if I'm being dense, but I'm

Re: Ports system quality

2011-08-29 Thread Chad Perrin
experience. I do not, at the moment, feel a burning need to find excuses to switch to NetBSD or OpenBSD as my primary laptop OS of choice. Don't let me throw fuel on the fire, here, but please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater, either. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: Ports system quality

2011-08-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:44:27PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: Chad Perrin said: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:17:12AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: FreeBSD needs to get better in this area, but I seriously doubt it will ever be as easy and painless as something like ubuntu. For a great many

Re: Time to remove the GNUTLS option in the print/cups-client port

2011-08-28 Thread Chad Perrin
the port build to fail. Perhaps it is time to remove this option from the port. Hopefully it will only be a temporary problem. What exactly is the benefit of using GnuTLS instead of OpenSSL anyway? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpzPJuqKpPbW.pgp

Re: Time to remove the GNUTLS option in the print/cups-client port

2011-08-28 Thread Chad Perrin
patents for defensive use. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpmmCXBDNmqL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2011-02-13 Thread Chad Perrin
(or any other open source OS) that way, though. Keep in mind that Debian's package archives have more software in them than any other OS software management system archives -- though I think FreeBSD is a not-too-distant second place. Also . . . do you think that top-posting helped? -- Chad Perrin

Re: www/chromium MAINTAINER, was Re: chromium producing constant hdd access

2011-01-18 Thread Chad Perrin
. Someone mentioned the mailing list for the freebsd-chromium support group. I'm inclined to check it out. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpN5AkCy4oLt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:19:00AM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 01:25:35PM -0300, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: You can fork the code, rename it, whatever, but you can NOT change

Re: ion windows manager on FreeBSD

2009-10-07 Thread Chad Perrin
considered copyright infringement! There. I fixed it for you. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpQqR1Uuu0LO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Ruby port broken? SOLVED

2008-08-16 Thread Chad Perrin
. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.20719.0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=ruby-1.8.6.111_5,1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.8.6.111_5,1 make ** Fix the problem and try again. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Jon Postel, RFC 761