Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> >> On Dec 6, 2017, at 14:01, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>> I plan to look at portupgrade + FLAVORS support in the next few weeks as >>> well. >>> >> Very, very much appreciated! > Yes, same

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> On Dec 6, 2017, at 14:01, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> >> I plan to look at portupgrade + FLAVORS support in the next few weeks as >> well. >> > > Very, very much appreciated! Yes, same

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > I plan to look at portupgrade + FLAVORS support in the next few weeks as > well. > Very, very much appreciated! -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/1/2017 9:59 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is going > to clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for > a long time. I plan to look at portupgrade + FLAVORS support in the next few weeks as well. --

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 18:10 +0100, Jan Beich wrote: > Dennis Glatting writes: > > > 1) I am tired of port breakage. I am past tired of being told to > > read > > UPDATEs when UPDATEs often has limited information, including > > install > > conflicts. > > > > 2) "Error 70"

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 05/12/2017 04:51, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Steven Hartland wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 03:02, Michelle Sullivan wrote: You mean if you're not into security or part of a security company stay on quarterly, but if you need to keep patched up because you are in the top

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Steven Hartland wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 03:02, Michelle Sullivan wrote: You mean if you're not into security or part of a security company stay on quarterly, but if you need to keep patched up because you are in the top 100 of most attacked sites/companies in the

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 04/12/2017 21:52, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: > Unfortunately it appears that we need to build multiple versions of, > say, python when you only NEED to run 2.7 refer to (1) above?  It used > to be that the ports team recommended when users should update python, > php, etc and the ports suite would

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 5/12/2017 10:43 AM, Tatsuki Makino wrote: > By the way, where is the clever way to update to flavor? > I am using portmaster. > ___ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe,

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

By the way, where is the clever way to update to flavor? I am using portmaster. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 03:02, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > You mean if you're not into security or part of a security company stay > on quarterly, but if you need to keep patched up because you are in the > top 100 of most attacked sites/companies in the world, deploy a team

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Jonathan Chen wrote: Thomas Mueller wrote: I can still see possible use for portmaster in that something has to be used to build synth or poudriere from source. You don't need portmaster for that. You just need make(1). This is what we do plus a few extras to share the

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Dennis Glatting writes: > 1) I am tired of port breakage. I am past tired of being told to read > UPDATEs when UPDATEs often has limited information, including install > conflicts. > > 2) "Error 70" on installs with no indication of where the error was > incurred and thus

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/03/17 20:47, Dennis Glatting wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +, Steven Hartland wrote: >> People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite >> resources >> and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering >> their >> time to add new features and

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Baho Utot wrote: On 12/3/2017 5:04 PM, Carmel NY wrote: I just checked out < https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports/wiki/quickstart-freebsd> and < http://ravenports.ironwolf.systems/> and I have to admit that I am interested. I am wondering if it will ever get accepted into the ports

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Adam Weinberger wrote: On 3 Dec, 2017, at 14:31, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Adam Weinberger wrote: You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break in HEAD sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't have breakages, or users who depend

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Let me see if I can clear up some common misconceptions ... On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 12:56:45AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I believe portmaster and portupgrade work or worked on all supported > versions and architectures of FreeBSD In my experience I can only speak for amd64/i386, but AFAIK

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +, Steven Hartland wrote: > People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite > resources > and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering > their > time to add new features and maintain tools. Missing the point cuts both ways. If

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 4 December 2017 at 13:56, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I can still see possible use for portmaster in that something has to be used > to build synth or poudriere from source. You don't need portmaster for that. You just need make(1). -- Jonathan Chen

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

from Chris H: > port-mgmt/poudriere gets the attention, and maintenance that it does, because > it was created, and is maintained by someone with a commit bit (bdrewery). > port-mgmt/synth was also created, and maintained by someone with a commit bit > (jmarino). > However, John's commit bit was

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Sorry to be sending this again, but I forgot to update the subject line the first time. from Baho Utot: > I don't use HEAD. I use Quartlery with synth. It is just I expect a little > more than amature hour. I was on Archlinux for 10 years and they are very > bleeding edge. Almost No

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/3/2017 5:04 PM, Carmel NY wrote: On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" po...@freebsd.org> said On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: Hi

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/3/2017 3:46 PM, Chris H wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" said On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > > Hi Carmel, > > > > My understanding is that poudriere

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/3/2017 3:07 PM, Steven Hartland wrote: Come on guys you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Yes I got caught out by flavours too, but it was quickly fixed and it adds a much needed feature which will make ports and associated tools better at the end of the day. People

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/3/2017 11:56 AM, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 3 Dec, 2017, at 7:55, Baho Utot wrote: On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot wrote: On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02,

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> On 3 Dec, 2017, at 14:31, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > > Adam Weinberger wrote: >> >> You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break in >> HEAD sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't have >> breakages, or users who depend on

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Carmel NY carmel_ny at outlook.com wrote on Sun Dec 3 22:04:34 UTC 2017 : > I just checked out < > https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports/wiki/quickstart-freebsd > > and < http://ravenports.ironwolf.systems/ > and I have to admit that I am > interested. > I am wondering if it will ever get

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 22:04:15 + "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>" said On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" > po...@freebsd.org> said > > On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: >

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Adam Weinberger wrote: You seem very angry about things breaking in HEAD, Baho. Things break in HEAD sometimes. This is why we recommend that end-users who can't have breakages, or users who depend on undeveloped tools, stay on the quarterly branch. Portmaster works perfectly on quarterly.

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" > po...@freebsd.org> said > > On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > > > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > > > > Hi Carmel, > > > > > > > > My

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" said On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > > Hi Carmel, > > > > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building system >

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Come on guys you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Yes I got caught out by flavours too, but it was quickly fixed and it adds a much needed feature which will make ports and associated tools better at the end of the day. People really seem to miss the point that there are only

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> On 3 Dec, 2017, at 7:55, Baho Utot wrote: > > > > On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot wrote: On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager",

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Hi! > Give jrmarino some time, he is obviously working on it: > https://github.com/jrmarino/synth/commit/35a664ac24b5cf6aedb2d0ae30594e5dc95c93d5 synth 2.00 which supports FLAVORS, hit the ports tree a short time ago. -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171 3101372 3 years

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

Rozhuk Ivan rozhuk.im at gmail.com wrote on Sat Dec 2 18:18:39 UTC 2017 : > I dont want poudriere because I dont need ZFS, jails and other crap on my > system. > I dont want to play system administrator: keep and admin build servers at > home/work. > > I just want update from source all my

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot wrote: > > > On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: >>> Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", >>> "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: > Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", > "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has > done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. That's one possible

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 09:58:15 -0800 Steve Kargl wrote: > I have a laptop with 664 installed packages. It has 6.4 GB > of free diskspace and 3.5 GB of available memory. It is the > only i686 system that I have and it is used to develop and > test all of the

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 01:04:12PM +0100, Vlad K. wrote: > On 2017-12-02 12:53, Carmel NY wrote: > > > > I am hoping that someone can get "synth" back up and working > > correctly. If not > > it might be time for me to look at another OS for my network. > > > This has been mentioned several

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:01 AM, Baho Utot stated: > On 12/02/17 07:23, Charlie Li wrote: > > On 02/12/2017 06:53, Carmel NY wrote: > >> Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning > >> how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively > >>

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/02/17 07:23, Charlie Li wrote: On 02/12/2017 06:53, Carmel NY wrote: Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively small home network. poudriere is not industrial-sized at all. Sure, it has

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 12/02/17 07:04, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-12-02 12:53, Carmel NY wrote: I am hoping that  someone can get "synth" back up and working correctly. If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for my network. This has been mentioned several times as a "solution", but I really

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 02/12/2017 06:53, Carmel NY wrote: > Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning how to use > an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively small home > network. > poudriere is not industrial-sized at all. Sure, it has many features that I don't exactly

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 09:59:33AM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: > First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is going > to clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for > a long time. > > Second, whither port msanagement tools? At least portmaster

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On 2017-12-02 12:53, Carmel NY wrote: I am hoping that someone can get "synth" back up and working correctly. If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for my network. This has been mentioned several times as a "solution", but I really don't understand it. What other OS would

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > > Hi Carmel, > > > > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building system > > that is officially supported by the portmgr, apart from raw make. > > > > There are many

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 2:36 am, Carmel NY > wrote: > > > > > > -- > > Carmel > > > Hi Carmel, > > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building > system that > is officially supported by the

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 at 2:36 am, Carmel NY wrote: > > First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is > going to > > clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for a > > long time. > > > > Second, whither port msanagement tools?

RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is going to > clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for a > long time. > > Second, whither port msanagement tools? At least portmaster now appears > dead. Any reason to expect it to be workable again?

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

> On 1 Dec, 2017, at 10:59, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is going > to clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for > a long time. > > Second, whither port msanagement tools? At least

Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

First, welcome flavors. It has been badly needed for a while and is going to clean up a couple of messes that have been plaguing the port system for a long time. Second, whither port msanagement tools? At least portmaster now appears dead. Any reason to expect it to be workable again? I have not