Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 16.09.2011 11:51, schrieb Lev Serebryakov: Hello, Freebsd-ports. You wrote 16 сентября 2011 г., 0:28:07: Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaemon line in pkg-plist facilitates that. While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Eric
We do not currently have a standard procedure for that, nor do we record the necessary state -- perhaps we should just discuss, vote, and add a paragraph to the porter's handbook. We also need to bring the authors (or volunteers) for the de-facto standard upgrade tools into the loop. My

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2011-09-16 18:17, Eric pisze: Just for ref regarding (c) on the portupgrade wiki page[1] it mentions using AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf for doing automatic stop/start/restart. I'm using it for a long time on my personal box and it's not that great. After some updates there is need to

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Chris Rees
2011/9/16 Łukasz Wąsikowski luk...@wasikowski.net: W dniu 2011-09-16 18:17, Eric pisze: Just for ref regarding (c) on the portupgrade wiki page[1] it mentions using AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf for doing automatic stop/start/restart. I'm using it for a long time on my personal box and it's

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Łukasz. You wrote 16 сентября 2011 г., 22:17:58: were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart service - thats my $0.02. I agree with that. It is not difficult to REstart service by hands. But stopping service is another story. Many ports/packages stop

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Łukasz Wąsikowski
W dniu 2011-09-16 20:25, Chris Rees pisze: However, having services not restarted after an upgrade can leave you with a) a vulnerable older service and b) a nasty shock when you decide to reboot six months later and it breaks :) I know that I should restart service after update and I will do

Re: Re-starting daemons across upgrades? (was: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).)

2011-09-16 Thread Miroslav Lachman
Lev Serebryakov wrote: Hello, Łukasz. You wrote 16 сентября 2011 г., 22:17:58: were not recompiled). Updating ports should never turn off or restart service - thats my $0.02. I agree with that. It is not difficult to REstart service by hands. But stopping service is another story. Many