Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not necessarily. There were 'rules' in Nazi Germany too, and there usually exist at least some 'rules' in oppressive regimes, but they do not necessarily, by virtue of their mere existence, lead to satisfying results. The difference is that you have choice here, people living in Nazi Germany

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
But regarding its alternatives... there are none. Those "modern"# printers can usually only get to work using CUPS, because apsfilter there are. don't use these "modern" printers. Of course not all of them. It's natural that you buy hardware that will be supported by software you use. CUPS is

Re: libapreq2 broken?

2009-05-29 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I recently upgraded to FBSD7.2 and decided to upgrade my ports as well, > upgrading perl to 5.10. Now www/libapreq2 won't build: > > cd perl; gmake > gmake[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/local/ports/www/libapreq2/work/l

Re: character sets for file names on ufs?

2009-05-29 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 29 May 2009 01:20:15 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > > % touch "??? ? ?? ?? ??? " > > % ls > > ??? ? ?? ?? ??? > > % rm ???\ ?\ ??\ \

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
cat /dev/random >/dev/audio and tell if you hear the noise nothing so it's all fine with config. i would do sent-pr because it's driver problem. I think it's just matter of simple quirk with not-really-compatible hardware. Assuming that something isn't broken with it.

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 29 May 2009 13:55:56 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> FreeBSD. for sure i will ask here if i will need help with FreeBSD. >> >> This includes at least two hypothetical scenarios: >> >> a) That the current list is an off-topic 'mess'. > > it is and will be. > >> b) That a moderated

Re: Growing a ZFS file system

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have a zfs pool of about 700GB, on it, i have a file system, home, mounted on /home and its 200GB. The file system has reached 100% capacity and im in zfs doesn't have static allocation of space for subfilesystems at all! you just have set a quota RTFM - to be exact man zfs ___

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 29 May 2009 01:09:45 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > CUPS is a PITA, but it may nevertheless be the "least bad" > solution if one is stuck with a junk printer. Don't get me wrong, please: I do not like CUPS, and I don't use it (I prefer apsfilter). CUPS requires too much dependencies

Re: Need sed to do something which sounds simple

2009-05-29 Thread Manish Jain
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, May 28, 2009 07:48:36 -0500 Manish Jain wrote: Hi, I need sed to do something which sounds simple, but I can't figure out the right command. All I need to do is insert a blank after a '}' at the end of a line if the next line begins immediately afterwards

Re: 7-7.2 upgrade, websvn

2009-05-29 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pieter Donche wrote: > Recently upgraded 7.0->7.2 > a user tells that he gets, using websvn > Error running this command: svn --config-dir /tmp --version >svn: not found > anyone a similar experience? >

Re: character sets for file names on ufs?

2009-05-29 Thread Tom Worster
On 5/28/09 3:01 PM, "Pieter de Goeje" wrote: > If you set your locale to UTF-8, you can use unicode characters in filenames. works like a charm. thanks for the tip! tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailma

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Anyway i am against any such regulations. Free Market is a best regulator. As people DO LIKE their products and the slavery by using them - their problem. Do you really think the free market protects our freedoms? When it's FREE it does. Of course there are lot of people that believe in soci

Re: Growing a ZFS file system

2009-05-29 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Mike Barnard wrote: > Hi, > > I have a zfs pool of about 700GB, on it, i have a file system, home, > mounted > on /home and its 200GB. The file system has reached 100% capacity and im in > need of growing it... Unfortunately i cannot find any documentation on how >

Growing a ZFS file system

2009-05-29 Thread Mike Barnard
Hi, I have a zfs pool of about 700GB, on it, i have a file system, home, mounted on /home and its 200GB. The file system has reached 100% capacity and im in need of growing it... Unfortunately i cannot find any documentation on how to grow a zfs file system. Any one done this? PS: I want to grow

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Bonnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 >> Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 >> Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 >> Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 >> Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 >> Mi

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD. for sure i will ask here if i will need help with FreeBSD. This includes at least two hypothetical scenarios: a) That the current list is an off-topic 'mess'. it is and will be. b) That a moderated list would not be a 'mess'. b is implicit if rules will be clearly defined.

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 29 May 2009 13:01:04 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions', and it >> is open. Adding even more lists to the mix will --at least initially-- >> only serve as a source of mild confusion. Imagine you are a new FreeBSD >> us

Re: What is this forum for?

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Actually, this looks far more about interoperability, especially since as you said, the 200 GB _is_ _for_ _FreeBSD_ Just because you don't know the answer to a question doesn't mean it's off-topic. for you - as usual - everything i wrote is the proof i don't know the answer. You are boring

Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Produces the same result :-( wouldn't it be better to pkg_delete xserver, make config, turn off hal dependency and then install. Probably it will work fine then. Sounds lika a good idea. I'll try it and repport back. /Leslie of course turn off hald, and run moused. ___

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The concept behind the EU is socialism, pure and simple. It attempts to unfortunately yes. and i'm so unfortunate to live here. Strange enough Poland are fortunately very "behind" in this at least under current government, but the question is how long... feeders. A free, open market is the

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions', and it is open. Adding even more lists to the mix will --at least initially-- only serve as a source of mild confusion. Imagine you are a new FreeBSD user. Try to imagine it now. i see the webpage, the mailing lists, and ftp w

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Mixer vol is currently set to 75:75 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Mixer igainis currently set to 0:0 Mixer o

pppoe routing problem, default route isnt used for some hosts

2009-05-29 Thread Fabian Holler
Hello, I have an strange routing problem. I can't connect to some hosts in the internet till I add an explicit route for this hosts with my default gw as gateway. There aren't any other routes that could match the destination IP for "non-working hosts". So the connection should also without an exp

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
CUPS isn't extra software in my opinions. CUPS is a PITA, but it may nevertheless be the "least bad" solution if one is stuck with a junk printer. i really have nicer things to do that fighting with winprinter, when i can get normal printer for really low price. Decent, network-capable, Po

Re: Remotely edit user disk quota

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
for running telnet - even in a "secure" (ha!) environment - when so much better alternatives exist. Let me shoot you a hypothetical: your webserver gets compromised. Something I pointed out earlier. and what? assuming it will actually be possible to get root access at all because of bug it su

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
itself, and how much of stupid-written PHP programs I don't think PHP itself is buggy, in fact I think badly written C programs are responsible for far more lossage. It all depends who write programs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list h

Re: Fwd: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
hmm i do have re(8) nic with 7.1 (6.3 before) - no problems. strange almost the same.. three rl nic's with 7.0, no problems on all ifaces rl and re are different drivers for different chips, just both produced by realtek ;) ___ freebsd-question

Re: Remotely edit user disk quota

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. I don't buy this, given that root's login name is well known :) if someone can intercept the passwords you type, then he/she will intercep

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Bonnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:01:33 +0200 > Frank Bonnet wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bruce Cran wrote: >>> On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:37:14 +0200 >>> Frank Bonnet wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:34:36 +0200 Jonathan McKeown wrote: >On Thursday 28 May 2009 22:52:47 Jerry wrote: >> >> Did you ever bother to consider that if the printer manufacturers >> actually formed a consensus on a printer language, some third world >> county or the EU would probably sue them. Not

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:01:33 +0200 Frank Bonnet wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Bruce Cran wrote: > > On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:37:14 +0200 > > Frank Bonnet wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Hello > >> > >> I have freshly ins

Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start

2009-05-29 Thread Leslie Jensen
Wojciech Puchar skrev: Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed Protocol not supported by server Do you have dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf ? Yes I have If

Re: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console - A Question actually about FreeBSD

2009-05-29 Thread Graham Bentley
Lars, Thanks for taking the time in your detailed reply and I will look into your suggestions however one thing about this eludes me ; I have never ever had to even think about this until 7.2 [ie in all previous verisons I chose uk.iso and swiss font - I always had £ key?] Thanks in any case (th

Fwd: updating from 7.1 to 7.2 AMD64

2009-05-29 Thread Prokofyev Vladislav
> > >> Very specifically that I was getting watchdog time outs and link status >> up down up on the re nic driver, hopefully 7.2 solves this. >> > > hmm i do have re(8) nic with 7.1 (6.3 before) - no problems. strange > almost the same.. three rl nic's with 7.0, no problems on all ifaces _

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Bonnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:37:14 +0200 > Frank Bonnet wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hello >> >> I have freshly install a HPXW4200 ( i386 ) but >> sound system does not work >> >> I have gnome insta

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 29 May 2009 10:00:23 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> nothing that prevent me from having an opinion about moderation and >>> trying to explain to others that it make sense. >> >> While a change like this is possible, it is going to be very very hard. >> To change something so dee

Re: character sets for file names on ufs?

2009-05-29 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Friday 29 May 2009 10:20:15 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > > % touch "??? ? ?? ?? ??? " > > % ls > > ??? ? ?? ?? ??? > > % rm ???\ ?\ ??\ \ ??\ ?

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread perryh
Polytropon wrote: > ... If the printer has PS or PCL, gs or even apsfilter will help. Dunno about PCL, but if the printer has PS it surely does not need gs. The whole point of gs -- in connection with printing -- is to translate PS into some other form that a non-PS printer can handle.

Re: character sets for file names on ufs?

2009-05-29 Thread perryh
Pieter de Goeje wrote: > % touch "??? ? ?? ?? ??? " > % ls > ??? ? ?? ?? ??? > % rm ???\ ?\ ??\ \ ??\ ???\ > % > > (I don't have a clue what that means btw) Here it looks lik

Re: Remotely edit user disk quota

2009-05-29 Thread perryh
Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging > to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. I don't buy this, given that root's login name is well known :) If a system accepts remote root logins, an attacker need only guess or inte

Re: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console - A Question actually about FreeBSD

2009-05-29 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Graham Bentley wrote: Hello All, Im still struggling with this one and have tried all I could find by Googling lists and forums. @ and " keys are fine as are every other key apart from £ symbol. Can anyone suggest ways to track this down. At 'Login:' I can actually get £ bu

libapreq2 port broken?

2009-05-29 Thread Erik Norgaard
Hi: I recently upgraded to FBSD7.2 and decided to upgrade my ports as well, upgrading perl to 5.10. Now www/libapreq2 won't build: cd perl; gmake gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/ports/www/libapreq2/work/libapreq2-2.12/glue/perl' cp lib/Apache2/Cookie.pm blib/lib/Apache2/Cookie.pm cp lib

libapreq2 broken?

2009-05-29 Thread Erik Norgaard
Hi: I recently upgraded to FBSD7.2 and decided to upgrade my ports as well, upgrading perl to 5.10. Now www/libapreq2 won't build: cd perl; gmake gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/local/ports/www/libapreq2/work/libapreq2-2.12/glue/perl' cp lib/Apache2/Cookie.pm blib/lib/Apache2/Cookie.pm cp

Re: character sets for file names on ufs?

2009-05-29 Thread perryh
Dan Nelson wrote: > ... ufs filenames have no assumed character set. I take it the / character is the same across all encodings then? Last I knew the pathname separator was treated specially. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread perryh
Polytropon wrote: > CUPS isn't extra software in my opinions. CUPS is a PITA, but it may nevertheless be the "least bad" solution if one is stuck with a junk printer. Decent, network-capable, PostScript printers do not have to be costly. I bought a Samsung ML-2571N at Fry's for something like

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Bruce Cran
On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:37:14 +0200 Frank Bonnet wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello > > I have freshly install a HPXW4200 ( i386 ) but > sound system does not work > > I have gnome installed and all the above services are running > > moused_enable="YES" > nfs_cl

Re: Remotely edit user disk quota

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/28 Kirk Strauser : > On Thursday 28 May 2009 02:34:02 pm Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> And yes - i do log as root by "insecure" rsh and telnet. > > OK, I'm now promoting you to "batshit insane".  Seriously, there's no excuse > for running telnet - even in a "secure" (ha!) environment - when so

locking attempts fails in FreeBSD (jail)

2009-05-29 Thread Oskar Eyb
hello! on one of my servers (7.0-R , Jail) I have a very strange problem I guess its something about LOCKing. some programs have issued with locking: saslauthd[38127] :main: could not lock pid lock file: /var/run/saslauthd/saslauthd.pid.lock saslauthd[38127] :main:

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/29 Wojciech Puchar : >> The EU has acted against two companies (Microsoft and Intel) who have used >> illegal business methods to protect and extend their monopolies and >> suppress >> competition. > > This is just the occasion to get another tax by UE clerks. As Microsoft and > Intel just p

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/29 Wojciech Puchar : >>> >>> What i use is: >>> >>> sendmail - in base system+procmail from ports. procmail is mainly used to >>> store messages in maildir format. >>> spamassassin as antispam, someone already pointed that dspam is faster i >>> must check it. Anyway properly configured spama

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/29 Frank Bonnet : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello > > I have freshly install a HPXW4200 ( i386 ) but > sound system does not work > > I have gnome installed and all the above services are running > > moused_enable="YES" > nfs_client_enable="YES" > sshd_enable="YES

Re: What is this forum for?

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar : > >> These are interoperability questions. Nobody here is asking Windows >> support questions. > > example - "do you know how to shrink windows partition from 250 to 50 gigs > without losing data" > > Yes he wanted this 200GB for FreeBSD, but that question has NOTHING to

Re: 7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Any help/infos welcome please post the output of mixer command. i bet your volume is set to zero ;) Thanks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkofkKoACgkQ6f7UMO5oSsXzyQCgkBzhGekhVddfc00Sl

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
nothing that prevent me from having an opinion about moderation and trying to explain to others that it make sense. While a change like this is possible, it is going to be very very hard. To change something so deeply ingrained into the whole `culture' of why adding extra moderated list is a c

7-7.2 upgrade, websvn

2009-05-29 Thread Pieter Donche
Recently upgraded 7.0->7.2 a user tells that he gets, using websvn Error running this command: svn --config-dir /tmp --version svn: not found anyone a similar experience? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:36:07 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> It's just my opinion, time will show if i am right if they will not >>> do this, and this list turn to <1% on topic. >> >> The only problem with that sort of reasoning is that the FreeBSD mailing >> list charters *have* been de

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
What i use is: sendmail - in base system+procmail from ports. procmail is mainly used to store messages in maildir format. spamassassin as antispam, someone already pointed that dspam is faster i must check it. Anyway properly configured spamassassin isn't that bad. sqwebmail for webmail. it's

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The EU has acted against two companies (Microsoft and Intel) who have used illegal business methods to protect and extend their monopolies and suppress competition. This is just the occasion to get another tax by UE clerks. As Microsoft and Intel just pay a fine, and doesn't really change their

Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/29 Wojciech Puchar : > Hello all ,  I want to install a  Mail Server with  Webmail, > > as i can't find the first post of that post i will answer the question what > i see on top. > > > What i use is: > > sendmail - in base system+procmail from ports. procmail is mainly used to > st

RE: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, as i can't find the first post of that post i will answer the question what i see on top. What i use is: sendmail - in base system+procmail from ports. procmail is mainly used to store messages in maildir format. spamassassin a

7-2 from scratch install , but no sound

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Bonnet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello I have freshly install a HPXW4200 ( i386 ) but sound system does not work I have gnome installed and all the above services are running moused_enable="YES" nfs_client_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" postfix_enable="YES" dovec

Re: On the need for moderated questions lists

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's just my opinion, time will show if i am right if they will not do this, and this list turn to <1% on topic. The only problem with that sort of reasoning is that the FreeBSD mailing list charters *have* been decided. but the decision MAY be changed. Of course - it may not, but there is n

Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint

2009-05-29 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 28 May 2009 22:52:47 Jerry wrote: > > Did you ever bother to consider that if the printer manufacturers > actually formed a consensus on a printer language, some third world > county or the EU would probably sue them. Nothing I have seen in 20 > years equals the audacity of the EU. As l

Re: Fresh install 7.2-RELEASE i386, X won't start

2009-05-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed Protocol not supported by server Do you have dbus_enable="YES" hald_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf ? Yes I have If not: add them, reboot and

RE: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail

2009-05-29 Thread Johan Hendriks
>> Hello, >> >> > Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, >> > >> > Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail >> >> I recommend the following step-by-step instructions: >> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 >It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: >a

Re: UK Currency Symbol in 7.2 Console - A Question actually about FreeBSD

2009-05-29 Thread bsd
Hi, I use a Macintosh as client host, but this could be any computer as long as you have a working keyboard configured. My shell is bash (latest port version). In my .bashrc I have included the following: # Display quoted characters stty cs8 -istrip -parenb bind 'set convert-meta off' bind

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