Skype: local video view with Virtual in xorg.conf

2012-11-19 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hi, I'm using Skype 2.1.0.81 in 10-CURRENT. Recently I have added Virtual ... to the Display SubSection in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
On 2012.11.18 09:58, Gary Kline wrote: I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 that has an improved [[meaning screwed up]] BIOS with some hardware mess called the UEFI.

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:49:46 +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: On 2012.11.18 09:58, Gary Kline wrote: I probably should cc the hardward guys about this. first, see if it geta any traction here, tho. my tech guy got me a Delll 3010 that has an improved [[meaning screwed up]]

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that the code is doing exactly what the designer wanted it

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That doesn't appear to be a bug. It appears that

Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-19 Thread Hexing
per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and no information === about emulators/wine-fbsd64 can be found in

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG:

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG:

Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-19 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No /usr/ports/emulators/wine-fbsd64 exists, and

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20187.html That

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote: 19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is BSDL-ed, and apparently has proper crypto signing using GPG:

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:10 AM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Volodymyr Kostyrko c.kw...@gmail.com wrote: 19.11.2012 14:34, Ivan Voras wrote: On 17/11/2012 22:48, Chris Rees wrote: (and is GPL btw) Since we're discussing it, Mercurial is

Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-19 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko
any 19.11.2012 15:03, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) writes: Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: On 2012-11-17 21:36, Gary Aitken wrote: # portmaster -n emulators/wine-fbsd64 === No

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the

Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-19 Thread Thomas Mueller
In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? Command in question is dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course DRIVE is replaced by the actual device node;

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Alexander Yerenkow
http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: dd command: BSD analog of conv=fsync?

2012-11-19 Thread dweimer
On 2012-11-19 07:42, Thomas Mueller wrote: In the last episode (Nov 18), Thomas Mueller said: What is the (Free)BSD counterpart of conv=fsync in dd command? Command in question is dd if=GNOME-3.6.0.iso of=/dev/DRIVE bs=8M conv=fsync This is for writing to a USB stick, and of course

portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread jb
Hi, have i caught portsnap with its pants down ? # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sun Nov 11 15:54:03 CET

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:21:19 + (UTC) jb wrote: Hi, have i caught portsnap with its pants down ? # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread jb
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: ... ... So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch

Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-19 Thread Hexing
C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws writes: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK. Nope, not for amd64: % grep 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS'

dump date and use of -r or -R

2012-11-19 Thread Gary Aitken
hmmm... I used -R when doing a dump, and I see the dump date is recorded as 1969. Does that mean an incremental dump will dump the whole thing again? on a related note, if dumping to a file and not a linear media such as physical tape, is there any real reason to use -r or -R?

Re: wine-fbsd64 -- no longer in ports

2012-11-19 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws writes: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Hexing hexhex...@gmail.com wrote: I guess that just remove it and install /usr/ports/emulators/wine or /usr/ports/emulators/wine-devel would be OK.

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread RW
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch downloads and applies patches to the compressed snapshot. update uses the compressed snapshot to update a pre-existing ports tree created by an extract ...

Re: skype

2012-11-19 Thread Al Plant
ajtiM wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2012 12:57:14 Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Sunday, November 18, 2012 a las 12:45:54PM -0600, ajtiM escribió: When using Skype on FreeBSD (.1-RC3, the call often (every 1-5 minutes) gets disconnected or better I hear but the other side doesn't hear me If I

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Snow Mountains
2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't mention this at all,

OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Carmel
I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format should be as shown here: Article I Name Bla-bla section 1 section 2

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread jb
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected

Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-19 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Snip ... So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox server system so I can access the configured vm? I this configuration even possible? I'll give it one last shot. CREATE/RUNNING ACCESSING !

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет: I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format should be as shown here: Article I Name

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:18:32PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:43:06 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Allow me to provide just one example: More in the series of bizarre UEFI bugs

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Open Slate
Latex can do what you describe but you would need to create or locate a different document class. The standard classes that ship with (most) versions of Latex are for academic journals, books, and letters. You are more likely to get your question answered on a Latex specific forum or mailing list.

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Carmel
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:08:47 +0400 Boris Samorodov articulated: 20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет: I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:30:44AM -0500, Daniel Feenberg wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:00:29 -0500, Jerry wrote:

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Aldis Berjoza
19.11.2012, 23:27, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:08:47 +0400 Boris Samorodov articulated:  20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет:  I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could  give me a quick answer.  I have a document I am writing, actually a new

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Open Slate
This sort of worked for me, but still had problems. 1) my Latex starts chapters on a new page, which may or may not fit the bill. 2) In Lyx the chapter command wants a title; I could not get just Article I. I'm sure both of these are fixable, Latex can do virtually anything. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
20.11.2012 01:25, Carmel пишет: I couldn't find any documentation on it either, although I was certain that it could be done. If you are going to use LaTeX, you definitely should learn it. There are many good free downlodable books out there. I am surprised that there is not a fixed style

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
20.11.2012 01:48, Open Slate пишет: This sort of worked for me, but still had problems. 1) my Latex starts chapters on a new page, which may or may not fit the bill. 1. Don't use the book style to write an article. 2. Read the documentation. It's open, free and plenty. 2) In Lyx the chapter

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread jb
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: From owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Snow Mountains
2012/11/19 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz: On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote: Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD

LSI 2008 drivers

2012-11-19 Thread Alltek Supplies Tech Support/Customer Service
Good afternoon, We're looking to build a ZFS storage device with FreeBSD version 8.3, however, the Supermicro based hardware comes with LSI 2008 SAS controller card and we were told that LSI / Supermicro doesn't have a driver for FreeBSD. We're just wondering if the LSI 2008 is supported

/usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0

2012-11-19 Thread andrew clarke
I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170 -- 203.215.15.252 netmask 0x inet 203.214.46.107 -- 203.215.7.251

PPPoA section of FreeBSD Handbook

2012-11-19 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue 2012-11-20 11:49:38 UTC+1100, andrew clarke (m...@ozzmosis.com) wrote: In the meantime I've switched to using mpd5 (/usr/ports/net/mpd5) and /sbin/ipnat. So far, so good: # ifconfig ng0 ng0: flags=88d1UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 inet

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2?

Re: LSI 2008 drivers

2012-11-19 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:41 -0800, Alltek Supplies Tech Support/Customer Service wrote: Good afternoon, We're looking to build a ZFS storage device with FreeBSD version 8.3, however, the Supermicro based hardware comes with LSI 2008 SAS controller card and we were told that LSI / Supermicro

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Snow Mountains
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No such file or directory Expected? Anyway,

Re: /usr/sbin/ppp doubling connections on tun0

2012-11-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:49:39 +1100 andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com wrote: I'm using /usr/sbin/ppp for PPPoE over an ADSL modem in bridged mode: # ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1492 options=8LINKSTATE inet 203.217.27.170

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: 2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote: Just one small problem. Here I got this: # gpart create -s bsd ada2s1 gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists # gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1 gpart: index '1': No

Re: FreeBSD on SSD on ASUS P5KPL-C

2012-11-19 Thread Snow Mountains
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com: I know I've seen that, but can't recall what causes it. You can try retasting before creating the BSD partitions: # true /dev/ada2 # gpart create -s bsd ada2s2 Sorry, no difference: # gpart show ada2 = 63 468862065 ada2 MBR (223G)

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Carmel
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:48:01 -1000 Open Slate articulated: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Boris Samorodov b...@passap.ru wrote: 20.11.2012 00:02, Carmel пишет: I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I

Re: virtualbox with FreeBSD as host

2012-11-19 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mario Lobo l...@bsd.com.br wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:07:44 -0500 Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Snip ... So how can I run rpd on the freebsd host running the virtualbox server system so I can access the configured vm? I this configuration even

Re: portsnap

2012-11-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
From: jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:05:41 + (UTC) Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: From owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234abcd at

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread andrew clarke
On Mon 2012-11-19 07:55:16 UTC-0500, Daniel Feenberg (feenb...@nber.org) wrote: The only way for FreeBSD (or Linux, for that matter) to survive in a world where hardware vendors care only about Windows, is to make sure that FreeBSD only depends upon features that Windows uses. In a world

Re: Freebsd 9 Startx

2012-11-19 Thread Hooman Oroojeni
Issue solved; I forgot to edit .xinitrc. Cheers, Hooman On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:28:13 +, Hooman Oroojeni wrote: Dear All, I would like to use GUI in Freebsd 9, but I face with following error. Any idea to help is

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Zach Leslie
There's a git repository. It's public. You can look at what goes into the FreeBSD git clone to get your assurance that things aren't being snuck in. People are using it, right now. I've always been confused by this. Which source repo is the true source of truth? To obtain the FreeBSD source,

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Zach Leslie
http://www.fossil-scm.org/ I'm not fossil user, but it's BSD licensed in written in C. Baptise Daroussin probably could tell us more about fossil pro and cons. This misses one of of the main points raised in the original post. The proliferation of git as a revision control system. Also,

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Eitan Adler
On 19 November 2012 22:04, Zach Leslie xaque...@gmail.com wrote: I've always been confused by this. Which source repo is the true source of truth? This changed a few months ago when ports and doc switched. As of now: - SVN is *the* source of truth. - CVS is exported from svn. It will

Re: OFF TOPIC -- Latex Question

2012-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:02:51 -0500, Carmel wrote: I know this doesn't belong here; however I was hoping someone could give me a quick answer. I have a document I am writing, actually a new set of By Laws for an organization. The format should be as shown here: Article I

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to start? most of us who are still alive and contributing

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:46:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free hardware and software? maybe 64-bit only to

Re: Anybody use the Dell 3010??

2012-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:35:15 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 07:46:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:27:52 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: answer me this, daniel or anybody else:: isn't there a very small group who is devoted to creating a 100% open/free