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Yes, it is.
Can I go from 8.3 directly to 9.1, or should I stop over at 9.0 first?
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available), I think you owe us a better
explanation.
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Friedrich The http server is just an excuse, ok? Happy now?
So why lie to us, then? Not very nice to lie to people from whom you
want help and answers and advice... FOR FREE.
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because it has a single local backup
copy for every live file, 2x right there.
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by design, as it relies upon features such as
cgroups and fanotify.[6] Debian is avoiding the adoption of systemd due
to this issue.[7]
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with is VirtualBox.
Maybe they haven't discovered they own it yet. :)
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IamTrying == IamTrying iamtrying.t...@gmail.com writes:
IamTrying http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html
Since that's a useless URL... do you have other links to the same information?
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Wojciech == Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes:
Wojciech I ignore performance issues completely for now.
An ironic line, given your complaints about clang.
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trivial to spoof a MAC address.
This. is. no. security.
Please stop even trying.
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right now, so I can't see the most
recent reboot with last.
YMMV, I guess.
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someone that a machine has been running for over 18 months?
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imagine
Sure, but the question was likely involving a stock system, so yes, your
mileage may vary, but let's consider a solution that works for a default
system. last reboot isn't it.
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, to be precise highlighting
vermaden of the second bracket of a pair at editors, nor VIM neither GEANY
vermaden highlight if/then/elif/else/fi unfortunately, seems that I will have
vermaden to live with that ;p
Emacs indents it nicely, and colorizes the keywords so that it stands out.
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scp is via ssh. with ssh, they get a complete command line. how are
you going to prevent *that*?
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OK, I'll give that a try. Thanks for being persistent with me.
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, send any mail to
freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes:
vermaden == vermaden verma...@interia.pl writes:
vermaden # fetch https://github.com/vermaden/beadm/blob/master/beadm
Randal and after reboot, zfs set mountpoint=none zroot would also seem to
Randal clean that up.
Oh wait, it looks
Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes:
Randal Oh wait, it looks like zroot is still holding 1.04G of data... will
Randal that ever go away? Shouldn't all the data be in the /ROOT/xxx
Randal items?
And worse, the things from the readme don't work:
locohost# ./beadm create
Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes:
Randal This is FreeBSD 8.2.
And no difference on 8.3 :(
Should there have been a promote in there somewhere? It looks like
the boot env is still dependent on the very old zroot.
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Robert == Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com writes:
Robert I'm replying off-list. No need to reply this back onto the
Robert list.
Eh?
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of the
core libraries. Is it sufficient to restart the apps (apache in
particular), or do I need to recompile things?
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Maxim == Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com writes:
Maxim On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Randal L. Schwartz
Maxim mer...@stonehenge.com wrote:
I know openssl is in the core, but the version in FreeBSD 8.2 is
vulnerable to some recent attacks. (Hmm, I wonder why there hasn't been
an 8.2 update
the port or undefine
WITH_OPENSSL_BASE.
@${FALSE}
.endif
So it looks like modern FreeBSD will Do The Right Thing if I just
recompile the apache22 port. Once I knew what to look for, I found it
with a bit of grepping.
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option. Well, not for something that is also
like -delete, but for other things that would have formerly required
-print0 | xargs -0... this is apparently a fairly recent (and
welcome!) modification to find.
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argument size, as
you discovered.
If you have perl, try this:
perl -e 'unlink glob(*)'
It uses Perl's internal glob() function, which can handle an unlimited
number of files.
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for the -1 there. Whenever ls is not going to the terminal, it
defaults to classic -1 behavior.
Compare:
% ls
with
% ls | cat
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, and Guido definitely doesn't get it.
Obviously, other people have worked on both languages, but keep that in
mind. I can present my evidence of how Guido doesn't get it in a longer
post, if prompted.
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dependencies somehow?
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Jason == Jason Helfman jhelf...@e-e.com writes:
Jason Why not just point the PACKAGESITE to the Latest directory of the tree
you
Jason want to install?
I am, but it has zsh-4.3.15.tbz and not zsh.tbz, so I have to pkg_add -r
zsh-4.3.15, and that's the annoying part.
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of these with ret ret ret dd dd dd ret dd : wq
ret, I'm really frustrated, because I made a mistake and now apparently
have to start over.
Why doesn't the freebsd-update command invoke mergemaster with -F?
Or is there some step that I'm leaving out?
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with this, or is there some additional tool I'm missing?
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Gary == Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
Gary several months ago i asked this list if there were any =easier= text
Gary editors than vi[m] that had the abbrev ability.
GNU Emacs is easier for me than vim is. And it has abbrev mode.
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The real security is disable plaintext passwords. Then no amount of
bruteforce will ever get in.
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-bending reasons), and the only
connections I see there are people trying to break into the web. Never
an actual sshd hit. :)
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a
fairly large set of sensible characters. Each multiple of 3 results in 4
characters in the output.
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in the portmaster camp.
I think this is a vi vs emacs or perl vs python argument. Just
religious.
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don't mind the USA, I highly recommend arpnetworks.com, having
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If you insist on Europe, I'm also a customer of ElasticHosts, and they
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Alvaro == Alvaro Castillo gobl...@gmail.com writes:
Alvaro The question... or maybe I'm wrong and will be included.
There *is* ZFS support in the PC-BSD 8.2 installer.
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to put it there?
There's no tool that can do that, so I'm hoping you're joking now. I
didn't see the smiley face.
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'undo'
Matthew type functionality, so you can unwind accidental deletions and
Matthew other user mistakes.
And with zxfer (in ports), very simple means to transfer those snapshots
to another location. I'm using that now on multiple machines, and it's
nearly flawless.
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Perl baked in to the default
package. Do that, and all will be well.
Yes, I had to learn this the hard way a year ago, so now I pass along
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Eir == Eir Nym eir...@gmail.com writes:
Eir Does `cp -x` works correctly on ZFS?
Is cp -x new? Not in my 8.1 manpages.
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suspect 8.1 there means 8.1 just before 8.2, and not 8.1 release.
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like it or not.
Jitsi runs fine on Windows.
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audio/video. (No SILK though... there's
nothing that comes close, sadly.)
I interviewed the lead developer for FLOSS Weekly a few weeks
back... sounds quite promising. http://twit.tv/floss162
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not getting it?
You *will* get burned. Why do you not trust the community to notice
that for you?
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as a
solution is wrong.
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Dick == Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl writes:
Dick Are the quotes neccessary?
No.
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easier just to rebuild from scratch.
That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be
only a server:
echo WITHOUT_X11=yes /etc/make.conf
And then *never* use packages. Only ports.
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Anton == Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk writes:
Anton Are you saying GCC doesn't comply with ISO standard(s)?
Welcome to the GNU World. First time here?
:-)
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repeatedly. :)
I'll once again say how happy I am with http://arpnetworks.com/vps.
Check them out. Tell 'em I sent ya.
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes:
Randal OK, so I'll appeal to the rest of freebsd-questions, since you can't
Randal answer with authority:
Randal can you upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2 using freebsd-update booting from
Randal ZFS as described at http://wiki.freebsd.org
Daniel == Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net writes:
Daniel On Wed, March 16, 2011 2:36 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Randal SOMEONE here knows. Please help.
So, nobody knows?
Most of the other answers were about a source-code upgrade, not a binary
upgrade.
Daniel I thought Matthew Seamans
code to
help me out. How do I reach them? Is ZFS a first-class FS now in the
binary builds, or not?
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some trial and error with
Darren different databases. So the vmware virtual servers and limited
Darren ram are out.
How so? Take a look at arpnetworks.com/vps - you can get some pretty
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of us using the binary upgrade, do I need to follow
http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557postcount=19
still? Or do nothing? Or do something else?
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Adam == Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com writes:
Adam On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Randal L. Schwartz
Adam mer...@stonehenge.comwrote:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557postcount=19
Adam Well those are his modified upgrade instructions, they seem
Adam relatively sound
for 8.1 to 8.2. I have four VPSs that need
to move from 8.1 to 8.2 remotely.
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of Postfix (Wietse Venema) (SATAN, TCP Wrappers, Coroner's Toolkit), I'd
say that postfix was *also* designed from the start as a secure MTA. It
certainly looks that way. I've met Wietse in person... he's an
upstanding guy.
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()dnl()? :)
But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to
do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And
reasonably named too!)
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Patrick == Patrick Bihan-Faou patrick.bihan-f...@teambox.fr writes:
Patrick cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla
And yet, you still have the Useless Use of Cat.
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, translating that into
a program is generally rather mechanical. Hence the irony of such
questions.
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. If you're actually interested in
Adam learning more, Randal L. Schwartz posted a great interview with
Adam some Virtualbox devs awhile ago that gave detailed technical info.
VirtualBox: http://twit.tv/floss130
Xen: http://twit.tv/floss67
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with them for a year, and
am very pleased with the services offered and the resulting price.
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Bruce == Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk writes:
Bruce I can't see any mention of it on their site - do you know if they have
Bruce datacentres other than in Los Angeles? Being based in Europe it's too
Bruce far away.
Arp is only LA for now.
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Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes:
Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form:
Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it
has in place, then it's its, not it's. :)
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Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes:
Randal There are rumors of a FreeBSD AMI for Amazon S3 as well, although I
Randal can't find it on the prebuilt AMI pages yet.
And by that I mean Amazon EC2, not S3. {sigh}
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this problem less than 48 hours after it
Rob appeared. Hence my recommendation to switch.
I switched to portmaster a few months ago after being firmly in the
portupgrade camp, and have not regretted it in the slightest.
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of your visitors are coming
from behind most corporate firewalls, because the proxy CONNECT
command is almost always limited to port 443 as a security feature.
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Devin == Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com writes:
Devin sudo cd /usr/repos
This is pretty useless. :)
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Joshua == Joshua Gimer jgi...@gmail.com writes:
Joshua On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
I have tried :1,$/s/[0-9]][0-9][0-9]/foo/g
Joshua Why not just %s/[0-9]*/foo/g
Because that would turn a line of fred into foofred. :)
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Gary %s/[1-0][0-9]*/foo/g
Except 1-0 is an empty set. :)
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-* no such directory
Gabor Fixit# cd /dist/8.1-* no such directory
What did you boot? I used a full release disk, and it worked fine.
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there aren't any
console messages.
I imagine something high-up in the kernel is asking the ZFS for the
first block of a file, and only at that point does all the paperwork
processing for consistency check come into play, so there are no
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Charlie == Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net writes:
Charlie OK, I'll play:
Charlie Gnome vs KDE
Charlie Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's)
Charlie GPL vs BSDL
Charlie C vs any other programming language
Perl vs Readability
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Ryan == Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz writes:
Ryan Really... I have a finger for that. I *HATE* bottom posting. It
Ryan makes quick checking of email impossible.
Only when people don't properly trim... another necessary item in
posting, whether top *or* bottom.
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they want whenever they
want as long as it's in the shareholders interest, but the VirtualBox
guys are getting assurance from on high that they'll be left mostly alone.
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a filesystem integrity auditing system?
How would that external tool work to (a) detect the bad block during its
access to prevent bad data from being returned to the user and (b)
enable the swapping of bad data with a good spare copy if available?
Nope... it's got to be in the kernel.
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discover same, like maybe a
convention that a license file is always called LICENSE or something?
*That* would be helpful.
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on file with the FreeBSD Foundation?
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or unwilling?
Seems like an onerous burden. Is it well-documented?
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to think that FreeBSD might be
restricted. And I hadn't seen any prominent disclaimers. Why rely on a
very very buried notice?
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it is irresponsible.
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Rob == Rob Farmer rfar...@predatorlabs.net writes:
Rob Making the license more visible may be a good idea, but doesn't
Rob materially change the situation any.
I agree, it doesn't change it materially.
But for the casual integrator, making it very visible would help.
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, and the whole distro is tainted
and should be marked as such UP FRONT, or it's not, and the paragraph
should be removed, if possible.
Or a third alternative... use the ACPI implementation from OpenBSD,
which doesn't have such a restriction.
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you include something into the
distro.
Otherwise, smart people will react to license notices because yes
indeed, THESE MATTER.
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Matthew == Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes:
Matthew On 21/09/2010 18:50:21, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Lowell == Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org
writes:
Lowell http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi
Wow. *Ancient* Perl code
Lowell == Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org
writes:
Lowell http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/cgi/man.cgi
Wow. *Ancient* Perl code. I should contribute a rewrite to modern Perl.
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.
And that's why I challenged you as to why. We needed Java to run in
the browser back before we had cross-platform DHTML widgets. But with
HTML5 around the corner, I've got to again ask, why Java?
Java had its day. Time to move on.
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stuck with Flash.
We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good
JavaScript.
I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on.
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Jason == Jason C Wells j...@speakeasy.net writes:
Jason On 09/10/10 07:29, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on.
Jason Java is not just for browsers.
Indeed. And I still stand by my statement.
Java makes everyone equally incompetent, which is why
could be wrong.
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