Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-12-01 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:34:06PM -0800, James Phillips typed: --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: This is actually the way UFS/FFS works too: when my system was crashing fairly regularly I was a bit surprised to find empty files after editing them.

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-12-01 Thread Alexander Motin
O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite. Instead of trying to compare something, I propose to

Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread O. Hartmann
I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite. oh ___

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread alex
I didn't know these were released already, but I had a look. I was disappointed with the results. If anyone wants to look here is the link: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=freebsd8_benchmarksnum=1 Linux's ext4 seems to leave UFS and ZFS well behind in a number of

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Backman
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite. Corrected link:

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread O. Hartmann
Thomas Backman wrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite.

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Backman
On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:38 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: Thomas Backman wrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Ivan Voras
Thomas Backman wrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all claims that have been to be improoved the opposite.

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org: Thomas Backman wrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on Phoronix.org's website. Especially FreeBSD's threaded I/O shows in contrast to all

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Holger Kipp
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:49:17PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Bill Moran wrote: In response to Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org: Thomas Backman wrote: On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:47 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: I'm just wondering what's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0/amd64 when I read the Benchmarks on

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Ivan Voras
Holger Kipp wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 02:49:17PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: On the other hand, random IO is negatively influenced by readahead :) Parallel Random I/O gives better results on Raid 5 than a single sequential read :-) I also found FreeBSD UFS with Softupdates handling

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Robert Huff
Bill Moran writes: It's common knowledge that the default value for vfs.read_max is non- optimal for most hardware and that significant performance improvements can be made in most cases by raising it. Documentation/discussion where? Respectfully,

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com: Bill Moran writes: It's common knowledge that the default value for vfs.read_max is non- optimal for most hardware and that significant performance improvements can be made in most cases by raising it. Documentation/discussion

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Ivan Voras
Robert Huff wrote: Bill Moran writes: It's common knowledge that the default value for vfs.read_max is non- optimal for most hardware and that significant performance improvements can be made in most cases by raising it. Documentation/discussion where? There is no documentation

Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread James Phillips
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Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread Bruce Cran
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Re: Phoronix Benchmarks: Waht's wrong with FreeBSD 8.0?

2009-11-30 Thread James Phillips
--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: This is actually the way UFS/FFS works too: when my system was crashing fairly regularly I was a bit surprised to find empty files after editing them. Also, I just verified that saving a file, rebooting, editing it again