Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: > >What about my question about boot strapping? Does that ensure that > > I could compile the world/kernel of 4.x on 5.3? > >John > No it does not. To be precise as far as I know, there is no way you > can compile a na

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 06:53:31PM +0530, Subhro typed: [...] > First of all, I guess u got a bit too aggresive which I believe is > unnecessary. Secondly, Try disassembling a 4.X binary and a 5.X > binary, you will understand what I mean. I have done it myself and I > am sure about it. Things st

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 02:45:38PM +0100, Walker, Michael wrote: > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Subhro > >Yeh, I forgot to mention about the FPU. Thanks for adding up. > Just on a side note here, could someone explain to me what a 'FPU-less' > system actually is? Ancient history. FPU m

RE: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Walker, Michael
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Subhro Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:24 PM To: John Gillis; FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE >> Depends. It it is a 486sx it will not run 5.x (support for FP

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:06:19 +0200, Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do realise that you can install gcc 3.4 on a 4.x machine and run > the binaries compiled with it? > For C++ the ABI has changed a couple of times betwenn gcc 2.95 and gcc > 3.4, but for C everything should work fi

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:01:35 +0200, Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you actually believe that I have a very nice bridge here you might > be interested in. It is certainly the goal that things which worked on > 4.x will continue to work in 5.x, and it might even work out that way > i

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 09:52:52AM +0530, Subhro wrote: > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:11:05 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade > > my non-production machines to 5.3 > > Nice idea > > once it is released, howe

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: > On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >however.. there are still things that could go wrong and I > > prefer not to find out when a production server heads south or doesn't > > have the right firm

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Gary Dunn
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 18:11, John Gillis wrote: > My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade > my non-production machines to 5.3 once it is released, however I'd like > the production servers to lag behind once I make sure everything is > working right. > This migh

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:31:33PM +0530, Subhro wrote: > >What about my question about boot strapping? Does that ensure that > > I could compile the world/kernel of 4.x on 5.3? > >John > No it does not. To be precise as far as I know, there is no way you > can compile a nat

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-14 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >however.. there are still things that could go wrong and I > prefer not to find out when a production server heads south or doesn't > have the right firmware on the RAID card.. so that's why I lag. You can very well

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-13 Thread John Gillis
> If everything is not working right, then 5.3 wouldnever be tagged > STABLE. This is not Windows. Granted, however I need to make sure that everything works fine in my environment on my hardware with my software. The reason I use FreeBSD is that I trust your release engineering moreso tha

Re: Compiling 4-RELEASE on 5-STABLE

2004-10-13 Thread Subhro
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:11:05 -0400 (EDT), John Gillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My apologies if this has already been asked. I'd like to upgrade > my non-production machines to 5.3 Nice idea once it is released, however I'd like > the production servers to lag behind once I make sure e