Re Rid of those windows desktops!

2004-10-23 Thread Brian
Hi I would just like to thank everyone who gave advice on Friday about FreeBSD on the desktop. I started my installs of 5.3RC1 last night and today have a very nice so far very stable working workstation. All machines running 5.3RC1 and cvsup'd of this morning at 9pm GMT ports and base. XFCE4

Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-22 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:33:06 -0400, Frank Laszlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has been around for as long as I can remember, since before XFree86 > 4.x. Its nothing new. > > Regards, > Frank Yes, it's all here. Takes a little getting used to the way it works. Is there any documentation o

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Erik Norgaard
Matthew Seaman wrote: > http://www.xwinman.org/ Following that link I found XPde. If your Windows users really need to feel at home, this may be for them. It is not ported though and looking into the code it seems that it will be some time before it matures, but they provide linux-binaries. But

Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Frank Laszlo
Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote: I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Brian wrote: Lots of ram is they all have at least 512mb. That *is* enough. =) I didn't have problems at 512mb, so far... I should take "Secure" out of there I'm fairly well up on FreeBSD Security and all boxes are behind a well maintained FreeBSD Router/Firewall. I have all those books :) I

RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
What exactly is "lots of RAM"? I think you should have 128MB for a graphical environment, preferrably more if you want to run lots of memory-eaters (like KDE). I've been happy for a long time with 256MB, now I have 512 and am even more happy. =) But 128 to 256 should be sufficient under most con

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Hello, Brian wrote: So I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it. Great! =) [...] I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work station which I'm sure it's more than able to be. Yes, it is. =) I've been using FreeBSD 5.x on my desktop

RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Kevin Glick
> snip > > I'm using a laptop but I do have a wheel mouse I can plug in. I'll > tinker with it some tonight with both the laptop mouse pad and the > wheel mouse and see what I come up with. I'll let you know how it > goes. Look at the chord option for your X config. Pressing both buttons at the s

RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
Pro: Both would be best for someone coming directly from MS Windows. Both have high sex-appeal for the great un-washed masses. I know it sounds superfluous, but people's impressions are their realities. If someone coming off Win

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
> I've never really put a lot of time into turning FreeBSD into a solid work > station which I'm sure it's more than able to be. certainly the best I've used on the desktop > For the most part all the workstations will be used for the usuall, > web,email, irc and local development. Noted, I'll r

RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:43 AM To: Pratt, Benjamin E. Cc: FreeBSD Questions; terry tyson Subject: Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops! Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote: >I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any >documentation on how to do it

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread doug
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? > I support end-users running both KDE and GNOME. I personally use either WindowMaker or XFCE, depending on my mood :). Here's my observations: KDE and GNOME: Pr

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:07:29PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? http://www.xwinman.org/ Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks

Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Josh Hansen
Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote: I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The only changes I've made are /etc/X11/xorg.conf changes to get my Z-

Re: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:16:27 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was searching for a way to cut-and-paste but couldn't find any > documentation on how to do it with Aterm. I think I got frustrated and > just started clicking and when I hit the scroll button it worked!! The > on

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:07:29 +0100 "Brian " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool :) > Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? aterm/mlterm sylpheed-claws fluxbox xemacs xchat2 firefox avidemux2 mplayer dfm If you don't like fluxbox, start trying window managers till yo

RE: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
Ben -Original Message- From: terry tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:07 AM To: Pratt, Benjamin E. Cc: Brian; FreeBSD Questions Subject: Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops! On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:46:48 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E. <[EMAI

Aterm cut-and-paste was Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:46:48 -0500, Pratt, Benjamin E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Terry mentioned Aterm, I like the flexibility, but I have gotten > cut-and-paste to work. Just copy by highlighting what you want on the > clipboard, and then paste by clicking my scroll wheel button. Cool, h

RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Pratt, Benjamin E.
Good luck, Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:07 AM To: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Rid of those Windows Desktops! So I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the tim

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Henry Miller
On 10/21/2004 at 14:07 Brian wrote: >I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it. > >We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware, everything >seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 4.9,4.10 5.2.1 etc > >I've used FreeBSD for a number of

RE: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Michael Clark
> -Original Message- > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:07 AM > To: 'FreeBSD Questions' > Subject: Rid of those Windows Desktops! > > > So > > I've been planning this for sometime and finally ha

Re: Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:07:29 +0100, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Can people recommend some nice window managers, email clients etc ? I use 4.10 with Blackbox on my laptop. I installed the libraries for both Gnome and KDE so I can use some of their apps. I like Evolution as an Outlook c

Rid of those Windows Desktops!

2004-10-21 Thread Brian
So I've been planning this for sometime and finally have the time to do it. We have various machines in the home no real fruity hardware, everything seems to supported by all current versions of FreeBSD 4.9,4.10 5.2.1 etc I've used FreeBSD for a number of years but mostly in the work place as Ro