Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 14), Scott Robbins said: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 04:15:34PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 13 December 2002 at 23:05:57 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: ... is that if one moves a computer from one location to another, the switch seems to take its time

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-15 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2002-12-15T02:07:33Z, Bsd Neophyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, a new catalyst 2912, depending on options, will run you between $2000-$5200, while a 12 port fast ethernet hub will run you about $200-$300. For maximum cost savings, build a cheap ( $400) FreeBSD server with three

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-15 Thread Jim Arnold
At 10:07 PM -0800 12/12/02, Gary D Kline wrote: Hi People, Before I (potentially) throw aay some bills, I thought I'd ask the hardware-savvy if there is any appreciable difference between makes of hubs. After 5 years I am getting ready to move up to a 10/100 RJ-45 hub. I've got a 5-port

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 14 December 2002 at 5:43:54 -0800, Bsd Neophyte wrote: --- Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better performance, and they hardly cost any more. i have to be the voice of

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-14 Thread David Kelly
On Saturday 14 December 2002 07:25 pm, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I tried a test here between two machines on my network. In each case, the data went via the Cisco 2900 switch and then either via a hub or a second switch. The remote machine has a 10 Mb/s interface. Here are the results

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-14 Thread Bsd Neophyte
--- Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure you meant to write what you did, but I'm not 100% I understand. But yes, latency isn't an issue. Even if it is, switches still win. My point is that generic switches are not faster than hubs, because of the added latency

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 14 December 2002 at 18:07:33 -0800, Bsd Neophyte wrote: --- Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure you meant to write what you did, but I'm not 100% I understand. But yes, latency isn't an issue. Even if it is, switches still win. My point is that generic

uninformed qstn...

2002-12-13 Thread Gary D Kline
Hi People, Before I (potentially) throw aay some bills, I thought I'd ask the hardware-savvy if there is any appreciable difference between makes of hubs. After 5 years I am getting ready to move up to a 10/100 RJ-45 hub. I've got a 5-port

Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 12 December 2002 at 22:07:19 -0800, Gary D Kline wrote: Hi People, Before I (potentially) throw aay some bills, I thought I'd ask the hardware-savvy if there is any appreciable difference between makes of hubs. After 5 years I am getting ready to

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Tillman
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:11:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better performance, and they hardly cost any more. Great advice. It looks like Cisco has even stopped listing hubs for sale - layer

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 19:41 US/Pacific, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I have three switches in my network: a Cisco 2900 (24 ports), a Netgear FS105 (5 ports) and a D-Link DSS-8+ (8 ports), in rapidly decreasing order of cost. I've never had any trouble with any of them. It's possible that

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:48:50PM -0600, Tillman wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:11:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better performance, and they hardly cost any more. Great advice. It

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Doug Reynolds
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:05:57 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:48:50PM -0600, Tillman wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:11:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Hogsett
I saw a test a few months ago of several low-end switches, and they were all non-blocking with similar performance. Pretty much a commodity item at this point. On refelection, makes me wonder why I spent $5000 on Cisco 2900 switches 5 years ago. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: uninformed qstn...

2002-12-13 Thread Brian
I would not buy a hub, 8 port unmanaged switches are under a hundred bucks now. Brian - Original Message - From: Gary D Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: uninformed qstn... Hi People, Before I

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Brian
(was: uninformed qstn...) On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 19:41 US/Pacific, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I have three switches in my network: a Cisco 2900 (24 ports), a Netgear FS105 (5 ports) and a D-Link DSS-8+ (8 ports), in rapidly decreasing order of cost. I've never had any trouble with any

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 13 December 2002 at 21:48:50 -0600, Tillman wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:11:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better performance, and they hardly cost any more. Great advice. It

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 13 December 2002 at 23:05:57 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:48:50PM -0600, Tillman wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:11:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I've seen little difference. But DONT BUY A HUB! Buy a switch instead. They'll give you better

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 20:08 US/Pacific, Mike Hogsett wrote: I saw a test a few months ago of several low-end switches, and they were all non-blocking with similar performance. Pretty much a commodity item at this point. On refelection, makes me wonder why I spent $5000 on Cisco 2900

Re: Hubs and switches (was: uninformed qstn...)

2002-12-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 04:15:34PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 13 December 2002 at 23:05:57 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: ... is that if one moves a computer from one location to another, the switch seems to take its time flushing its tables and the box won't immediately