Re: Hi i want to ask a question
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) > is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 > 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and > 5gb HDD It is very well possible, but you need to pay attention to a few things: 1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. 2. You will have to choose wisely what you install. You can install the OS plus X, and then be very selective regarding the applications. Firefox for example may be a bit heavy as a web browser, but there are alternatives, such as dillo or lynx (in graphics mode). Also choose your work and multimedia applications wisely. There _are_ still programs in the ports collection that are very low on bloat, but you need to do some research to find them. 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) 4. Refering to no. 1, you should also aim to build a custom kernel on another machine that exactly fits the hardware that you have present in the Thinkpad. Streamline your kernel. Make it reflect the present hardware configuration. Maybe there are even some options and tunables to make it run better than the GENERIC kernel. The main limiting factor I see is the 64 MB RAM. If you have the chance, try to upgrade it. I know that's not easily possible. Note: I've been using FreeBSD 4 and 5 on a 150 MHz Pentium (1) with 64 MB (later on: 128 MB) RAM and 8 GB disk. This machine could compile the world (even though it needed 24 h to do that), fetch an ISO via FTP, play MP3 music via xmms, and still offer a well responding web browsing experience using Opera. NO JOKE. "Mister Coffee" was my first FreeBSD workstation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can i decrease memory occupied by xorg ?
On 4 July 2012 20:52, J B wrote: > It is in ports: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xrestop > jb [10001 eitan@radar ~ ]%whereis xrestop xrestop: /usr/ports/x11/xrestop -- Eitan Adler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: No sound in my FreeBSD 9
Maybe i should use audio/oss instead of snd_ich ? - e^(π.i) + 1 = 0 -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/No-sound-in-my-FreeBSD-9-tp5720280p5724585.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
from Ivan Ivanov : > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Julian Stacey responded: > Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) > I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, > (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels & > striping binaries, & older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) > but Firefox & Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. > maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, > eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram > doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http & sendmail etc. > Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. > Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. > However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, > but then equally for modern BSD & Linux, > Easier with older smaller versions of OS. > (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Building big ports, including gcc, really can bog down on an old under-resourced computer, even with 256 MB RAM and 12 GB FreeBSD slice. I speak from experience with both Linux and FreeBSD, through 8.2 on old computer. NetBSD too (5.1_STABLE). On this old computer, GNOME 3 live CDs and USB failed to boot and get to GUI: didn't work at all. When I first responded on this thread, I didn't think of FreeDOS (www.freedos.org), but then you can't run anything close to Firefox on FreeDOS or any other DOS. But FreeDOS would run with a 5 GB hard drive all in one FAT32 partition. Work has been and is being done on FreeBSD to make it feasible to install application software via binary patches, that would come in useful on low-resource computers. With 64 MB RAM, I'd look to a window manager like IceWM, or maybe JWM or Ratpoison, but certainly not KDE. An old computer with insufficient RAM for fancy browsers and multimedia can still be useful for a server or router. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
Hi, Reference: > From: "Thomas Mueller" > Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:17 -0400 > Message-id: <53.21.06836.dac26...@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > from Ivan Ivanov : > > > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD > > I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space > to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from > the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) > Firefox. > > There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, > maybe? > > You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such > as Puppy Linux. Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels & striping binaries, & older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) but Firefox & Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http & sendmail etc. Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, but then equally for modern BSD & Linux, Easier with older smaller versions of OS. (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: > From: Carsten Mattner > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 > Message-id: > Carsten Mattner wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >>> As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not > >>> possible > >>> except very basic bug is there. > >> > >> > >> Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local > >> disks. > > > > > > true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are > > million bugs. > > > > i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. > > But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. > > > > Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. > > Nothing is impossible at that complexity. > > I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. > Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the > local disk? I don't know. I wrote how I obtained the data patern I saw, in my: > Message-id: <201207050936.q659awci016...@fire.js.berklix.net> > Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 11:36:32 +0200 Others very welcome to try it. > Julian? > Which Firefox version? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 > I am a little concerned. Me too ! Not had tme to pursued it though. & I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. I suggest others create a dummy guest account & then accesss URL & do page save as I wrote. > > >> There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and > >> only the site that created and owns the file may access it. > > > > From what version? > > http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ > https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI > Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
from Ivan Ivanov : > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not >>> possible >>> except very basic bug is there. >> >> >> Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local >> disks. > > > true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are > million bugs. > > i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. > But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. > > Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. Nothing is impossible at that complexity. I'd still like to know what Julian saw as you didn't see that. Did it really contain a script which made it fetch random files from the local disk? Julian? Which Firefox version? I am a little concerned. >> There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and >> only the site that created and owns the file may access it. > > From what version? http://people.mozilla.com/~tglek/velocity2012/ https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/FileHandleAPI Planned as a supplement or replacement for IndexedDb it seems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Hi i want to ask a question
Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD - http://a.abv.bg/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=130828__zoneid=63__oadest=http://www.sdi.bg/onlineInsurance/?utm_source=gbg&utm_medium=txtLink&utm_content=home"; target="_blank">Гражданска отговорност – Цените на компаниите ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
poudriere
Hello, I'm trying to switch my ports to pkgng, using poudriere to build packages: Few questions: - Is there a way to ask for options while building (ie make config)? - How to keep the workdir of the jail on failure? I see a failure with ant and I would like to look the build log (ant-diagnostics.log). openjdk6/work/apache-ant-1.8.3/bin/ant -version >> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/java/openjdk6/work/build/bsd-amd64/langtools/build/ant-diagnostics.log gmake[2]: *** [/wrkdirs/usr/ports/java/openjdk6/work/build/bsd-amd64/langtools/build/ant-diagnostics.log] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/wrkdirs/usr/ports/java/openjdk6/work/langtools/make' gmake[1]: *** [langtools-build] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/wrkdirs/usr/ports/java/openjdk6/work' gmake: *** [build_product_image] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/openjdk6. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/apache-ant. *** Error code 1 Thanks, regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. true. javascript activity is sandboxed. But within that sandbox there are million bugs. i've already seen trojans that completely took control over firefox. But - in spite it was windoze - ONLY firefox. Everything else was fine. Deleting firefox user data removed the trojan. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. From what version? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. > > no idea but probably everything is possible with current style of how web > browsers work. > > As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible > except very basic bug is there. Yes otherwise all the flash sites would have gathered files from local disks. There are some new Browser APIs which allow you to create files and only the site that created and owns the file may access it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. no idea but probably everything is possible with current style of how web browsers work. As for reading anything else than internal firefox data it is not possible except very basic bug is there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> wrote: >>> >>> > >> http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. >>> http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html >>> >> >> Same problem >> > really stupid service. even more stupid than it's users! > > output DO DEPENDS on browser. i've saved it to HTML from firefox and now > everything display it properly. > > Not sure if attachments are allowed, but i send gzipped HTML and attach > here. 4kB should not hurt much. Thanks. Can anyone confirm Julian's password stealing script problem. I'm not concerned but cautios I'm missing something important security wise. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Tweetless
pages not loading completely in Firefox 13.0.1,1. the best solution is to not use that services like twitter, facebook and just stay away from it so they will not hurt you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
wrote: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html Same problem really stupid service. even more stupid than it's users! output DO DEPENDS on browser. i've saved it to HTML from firefox and now everything display it properly. Not sure if attachments are allowed, but i send gzipped HTML and attach here. 4kB should not hurt much. c3kw80dyq.html.gz Description: Binary data ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD >> >> Can someone post the content of that link. >> >> I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. >> > http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html > Same problem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD Can someone post the content of that link. I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. http://pastehtml.com/raw/c3kw80dyq.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: How can i decrease memory occupied by xorg ?
1083 root 1 210 99444K 11544K select 0 1:28 0.00% Xorg doesn't take much, only 11.5MB is resident ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From: Carsten Mattner >> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:41:27 +0200 >> Message-id: >> > > Carsten Mattner wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> > Carsten Mattner wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar >> >> wrote: >> >> > the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually >> >> > work. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD >> >> >> core >> >> >> developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of >> >> >> FreeBSD and Google? >> >> >> >> >> > single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. >> >> >> >> Can someone post the content of that link. >> >> I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. >> > >> > Thats what shows with lynx >> > >> > Firefox shows some boring page beginnning >> > - >> > The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source >> > luminaries grouped by project. >> > >> > No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with >> > corrections/additions. >> > >> > Note also this list of Google's open source projects. >> > >> > Python >> > >> > >> > Guido Van Rossum >> > >> > >> > Python creator >> > >> > Alex Martelli >> > >> > >> > Python Cookbook, ... >> > >> > Brett Cannon >> > >> > >> > Python >> > >> > Jeremy Hylton >> > >> > >> > Zope >> > >> > I'll skip the rest, Yawn. >> > >> > >> > Firefox also runs some script. >> > Doing a page save & tar cf ends with a tar image containing >> > >> > datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te >> >> Where did you find that? > > I clicked File > save page > presumably I left it at default Complete page > Then I tarred up file & directory > then I inspected with vi. does any of the files hash to the same as say passwd found in /etc? I doubt that. If it does this may be serious. >> Since when can Firefox read random files from >> disk via Javascript? > > I don't know. > I've just always had a reflex suspicion of bowsers that can run scripts. > On my infinitely long mental list of things to look into some time ;-) AFAIK you cannot do that with javascript. Otherwise people's ssh keys would have been stolen long ago. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Tweetless
Thanks for those who have attempted to help with the problem of twitter pages not loading completely in Firefox 13.0.1,1. My solution was to deinstall Firefox 13.0.1,1 and install firefox-esr (10.0.5.1). This version handles twitter competently and everything else that I have check that is mission critical for me. I do not know what bleeding-edge functionality is lost in this rollback, but it works for me. Since twitter works correctly in firefox-esr and opera (in exactly the same machine with the same os version and network connection), I think the most reasonable assumption is that something in twitter is hitting a bug in firefox 13.0.1,1. If firefox 13.0.1,1 is correct then it is the "only one in step" on the parade ground. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
Hi, Reference: > From: Carsten Mattner > Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:41:27 +0200 > Message-id: > Carsten Mattner wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Carsten Mattner wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar > >> wrote: > >> > the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually > >> > work. > >> > > >> > > >> >> http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD > >> >> core > >> >> developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of > >> >> FreeBSD and Google? > >> >> > >> > single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. > >> > >> Can someone post the content of that link. > >> I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. > > > > Thats what shows with lynx > > > > Firefox shows some boring page beginnning > > - > > The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source > > luminaries grouped by project. > > > > No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with > > corrections/additions. > > > > Note also this list of Google's open source projects. > > > > Python > > > > > > Guido Van Rossum > > > > > > Python creator > > > > Alex Martelli > > > > > > Python Cookbook, ... > > > > Brett Cannon > > > > > > Python > > > > Jeremy Hylton > > > > > > Zope > > > > I'll skip the rest, Yawn. > > > > > > Firefox also runs some script. > > Doing a page save & tar cf ends with a tar image containing > > > > datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te > > Where did you find that? I clicked File save page presumably I left it at default Complete page Then I tarred up file & directory then I inspected with vi. > Since when can Firefox read random files from > disk via Javascript? I don't know. I've just always had a reflex suspicion of bowsers that can run scripts. On my infinitely long mental list of things to look into some time ;-) > > > I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail > > to it can't harvest ? > > I did suspect this is some kind of bot spam. Yup, the original question seemed too clueless. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: WITHOUT_MODULES in /etc/make.conf doesn't work
> No, I'm just borderline sure that WITHOUT_MODULES works > the same way as MODULES_OVERRIDE, that is it looks in > top directory in /usr/src/sys/modules/ and ulpt is in > /usr/src/sys/modules/usb/ulpt > Speaking of RAM savings, things you would always load > should be compiled in kernel, modules per design take > more RAM than compiled in stuff. I suppose with a generic kernel where many drivers would be put in modules and not the kernel proper, RAM would be less cluttered. I think that rationale was used with Linux, and I believe kernel modules came to Linux before FreeBSD and to FreeBSD before NetBSD, am not sure about other BSDs. I remember when it was necessary to "insmod hpfs" to mount an HPFS partition from Linux, it was not done automatically. Also, when adding a new device and driver, just that module could be compiled without recompiling the rest of the kernel: useful perhaps when installing a prefabricated Linux distribution. But when running on one specific computer, I see the rationale for NO_MODULES=yes. Now is there any way to prevent ulpt.ko from loading when a USB printer is connected? Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Tweetless
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 7:44 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello, On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote: Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner: Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 -> threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix this issue. Let us for a minute assume that there is nothing wrong with FF. How about installing Firebug and see in the "Net" tab that what precisely is happening when you load the Twitter main page? The firebug font is way too small to read and I cannot find the means to increase it (the increase text size in the drop evidental refers to the text size of the subject tab, not the firebug interface. Nothing at all seems to be in the Net tab, however, it is not clear this is active when the subject page is loaded. Firebug crashes firefox repeatedly when the subject page is reloaded or when firebug offers to reload the page itself. Is it waiting for apparently no reason at a particular place? The first page after login (twitter "Home") always stops in the same place -- after it draws the tweet box in the left column (but leaves the tweet box non-functional). Some of drop-downs on the top bar work, but others do not drop down. Links in tweets do not open in new tabs (as they usually do) and if they link to twitter pics, those pages will not fully load. Using the reload link in the "slow loading" message will (at first) reload pages which generally stop in the same place, but repeated reloading eventually leads to nothing but the background showing up. Also, not strictly required, but can you also pass the traffic through something like LiveHTTPHeaders and post a traffic dump? As a third step, run a "pcap" session and see what is happening on the wire/air ? When I findout what these are. Adapter Description GLXtest process failed (exited with status 1): GLX version older / than the required 1.3 WebGL Renderer: Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues. GPU Accelerated Windows: 0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. / Try updating your graphics driver to version / or newer. This probably means that none of the "advanced" rendering stuff work on your X setup. The only drivers that work with this machine (Intel G33) are intel and vesa. The intel driver does occasionally freeze X entirely requiring a boot, but this is not what happens when trying to load twitter pages. This is a completely distinct problem but probably it would be interesting to try and figure out why Graphics Acceleration is not working. I have very limited experience with Intel Graphics chipsets. In the i915 days, there used to be something called AIGLX which required some explicit configuration in xorg.conf. Could you check on that? My understanding from reading the xwin list and others is that the intel driver is in some aspects broken for x. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Carsten Mattner wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> > the major difference between Hurd and FreeBSD is that FreeBSD actually >> > work. >> > >> > >> >> http://pastehtml.com/view/c3kw80dyq.html - Does anyone know if FreeBSD >> >> core >> >> developers left FreeBSD to work in Google? What will be the future of >> >> FreeBSD and Google? >> >> >> > single man from FreeBSD is listed and other from FreeBSD docs. >> >> Can someone post the content of that link. >> I only see a stack of "This page was viewed " but no actual content. > > Thats what shows with lynx > > Firefox shows some boring page beginnning > - > The tables below, list some of Google's eclectic mix of open source > luminaries grouped by project. > > No doubt I've forgotten some, so don't hesitate to contact me with > corrections/additions. > > Note also this list of Google's open source projects. > > Python > > > Guido Van Rossum > > > Python creator > > Alex Martelli > > > Python Cookbook, ... > > Brett Cannon > > > Python > > Jeremy Hylton > > > Zope > > I'll skip the rest, Yawn. > > > Firefox also runs some script. > Doing a page save & tar cf ends with a tar image containing > > datetime|datetime-local|email|hidden|month|number|password|range|search|tel|te Where did you find that? Since when can Firefox read random files from disk via Javascript? > I've long been thinking I / one should run firefox inside a chroot or jail > to it can't harvest ? I did suspect this is some kind of bot spam. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
