tcpdump install issues

2005-02-28 Thread FreeBSD MailingLists
I have recently installed FreeBSD 5.3 from CD onto a couple of
servers.  I updated the /usr/src and /usr/ports to  RELENG_5.  When I
try to install tcpdump from the ports, the make fails with the last
line being

Error: shared library pcap.2 does not exist
*** Error code 1

I know I didn't have this problem when I installed 5.3 on a couple of
servers last month, so does anyone know what is causing this?

TIA,
Tomoki Taniguchi
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RE: tcpdump install issues

2005-02-28 Thread Subhro
libpcap is missing. Rebuild and install that.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
India

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 Subject: tcpdump install issues
 
 I have recently installed FreeBSD 5.3 from CD onto a couple of
 servers.  I updated the /usr/src and /usr/ports to  RELENG_5.  When I
 try to install tcpdump from the ports, the make fails with the last
 line being
 
 Error: shared library pcap.2 does not exist
 *** Error code 1
 
 I know I didn't have this problem when I installed 5.3 on a couple of
 servers last month, so does anyone know what is causing this?
 
 TIA,
 Tomoki Taniguchi
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RE: only 1 card is active, why

2005-02-28 Thread Subhro
Maybe the wire is faulty then?

Regards,
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
India

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 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 13:33
 To: Subhro
 Subject: Re: only 1 card is active, why
 
 The wire that is always no carrier is definitely connected to a hub.
 
 Subhro wrote:
 
 No carrier means, the NIC does not see a switch/hub at the other end.
 Thus you
 need to plug in one card into the switch connected to your LAN and the
 other
 to the modem.
 
 Regards
 S.
 
 Indian Institute of Information Technology
 Subhro Sankha Kar
 Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
 Salt Lake City
 PIN 700091
 India
 
 
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 I use freebsd-5.3release as a gateway. I have 2 realtek 8139 card, one
 for Internet and the other for LAN. But when I execute ifconfig, only
 1 card(rl0) is shown active, and the other(rl1) is shown no carrier.
 And when I exchange the wire, rl0 changes to no carrier, and rl1
 changes to no carrier. It seems that only 1 card can be in use. What
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Re: How would you install all Gnome ports?

2005-02-28 Thread Xavier Maillard
On 28 fév 2005, Chris Hodgins wrote:

 Chris wrote:
  Chris Hodgins wrote:
  
   Chris wrote:
   
Is there an all inclusive command to install all Gnome
ports from within the ports tree?

   
   Not everything but enough to get you started:
   
   /usr/ports/x11/gnome2$ cat pkg-descr
   GNU Network Object Model Environment
   
   This metaport installs the entire GNOME 2 desktop,
   including the the most common user applications. Other
   popular GNOME applications can be installed from the other
   GNOME 2 metaports:
   
   * x11/gnome2-fifth-toe
   * x11/gnome2-power-tools
   * editors/gnome2-office
   * devel/gnome2-hacker-tools
   
   WWW: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/
   
  Perfect - this is exactly what I wanted. I'm a KDE munkie
  myself, but I wanted to dabble w/Gnome. Thank you Chris H.
  
 
 I would also highly recommend Xfce4.2. :)

I would also recommend Ion2 ;) The best WM out there currently.

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Re: tcpdump install issues

2005-02-28 Thread Rob
FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
 I have recently installed FreeBSD 5.3 from CD onto a
 couple of servers.  I updated the /usr/src and
 /usr/ports to  RELENG_5.  When I try to install
 tcpdump from the ports, the make fails with the last
 line being
 
 Error: shared library pcap.2 does not exist
 *** Error code 1

I wonder why you want to do this.

My system is not 5.3, but STABLE, which refers to
5.4-PRERELEASE at this moment. On this system, it
appears to me that base system and ports have the
same versions (see below). Then why not using
tcpdump from the basesystem?

Rob.

$ cd /usr/ports/
$ make search name=tcpdump 
Port:   tcpdump-3.8.3_1
Path:   /usr/ports/net/tcpdump
Info:   Ubiquitous network traffic analysis tool
Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
B-deps: autoconf-2.53_3 libpcap-0.8.3 m4-1.4.1
perl-5.8.6_2
R-deps: libpcap-0.8.3


$ /usr/sbin/tcpdump -V
tcpdump version 3.8.3
libpcap version 0.8.3




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RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:26 PM
 To: FreeBSD questions
 Subject: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 This is on 5.3-STABLE.
 
 On my desktop FreeBSD PC:
 
   $ fstat /dev/io /dev/mem
 
 only shows that Xorg is using these devices.
 
 Googling on /dev/io and /dev/mem, finds only Xorg
 related discussions and problems.
 
 
 I now also have Server PC, that does not run X at all.
 I'm about to remove the devices io and mem
 in the kernel configuration. Is that OK?
 
 How about the /dev/random device? Could that go too?
 
 Thanks,
 Rob.
 

Rob, you are very mistaken about that the devices in /dev are.

These devices, /dev/mem, /dev/io, /dev/random and the like, do
not in fact actually reside in the /dev directory.

Instead, they are part of the kernel itself.

All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple
files that take up only a few bytes of space.  They are convenient
hook points to use to get to these devices.  That is, when a program
accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file.  Instead,
the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening
that device with the output of the actual device.

This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility,
rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is
accessing the device, not creating the device file.

So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at
all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the
access point to them.  The devices are still there in the kernel.

Ted
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Re: Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?

2005-02-28 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 27 February 2005 08:11 pm, Clay 
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 Howdy,

 I am for the most part a newbie to FreeBSD.  I am wanting to move
 some config files from their standard location to a single directory
 and create symlinks for each.  Doing this will allow me to more
 easily maintain and backup the files.

 dhclient is able to use dhclient.conf when symlink'd.  Apache seems
 to also work when httpd.conf is symlink'd.

 Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?  I have done and the
 file isn't being read/found.  Moving the actual file back to /etc
 fixed the problem.

I am not entirely sure, but to hazard a guess, this isn't working 
because rc.conf loads before the other filesystems in /etc/fstab are 
mounted, and you have the actual rc.conf file on one of those 
filesystems (though you didn't specify). Apache (httpd) and dhclient 
run after they are mounted. Thus, you would be able to symlink rc.conf 
as long as the actual file is in the root filesystem (I think), but I'm 
not sure if that's a good idea - it might be alright, just never done 
it before.

- jt
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Re: support for multiple gre tunnel pass-through

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 11:38:15AM -0300, emilio wrote:
 Hi at all the list
 I got the latest (5.3) free-bsd edition and need to know if  there's support 
 for gre protocol into multiple connections
 We got many clients for vpn into the office acessing a remote server and 
 passing through the firewall who has two interfaces(one public and one 
 internal)
  in a round-trip way meaning that the packet has to do natd in the go and in 
 the back way to access the  10.x.x.x internal network
 I'm a little worried because we used debian with the kernel 2.4.26 and 
 iptables 1.2.11 and needed to do  many adjusts and recompiles until it came 
 to work finally.with 
 the patch-o-matic added.
 So the question is if in free-bsd and the related ipfw is the same 
 headache

Are you simply asking if you can have multiple gre tunnel from a freebsd
box?  Then yes, freebsd works great for that.  I've had no trouble.  And
IPSEC on top of that isn't much more difficult.

 Of course i'm a newbie hehehe
 May you have a look at this problem i'd be grateful...
 thanks very very much
 
 Emilio 
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RE: Change MAC address of LAN card in rc.conf. How?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: FreeBSD questions
 Subject: Re: Change MAC address of LAN card in rc.conf. How?
 
 
 
 --- Michael Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Just curious, why would you ever need to change your
  mac address?
 
 In my university network, IP numbers must match a
 previously registered MAC address, otherwise the IP
 number is blocked. So our group has a list of IP
 numbers, that each only work with a specific MAC
 address.
 

Yeah, the network admins do that to prevent people spoofing
IP addresses to try attacking other computers.

Of course, it's stupid since you can spoof the mac and
attack away.

 When shifting around computers and IP addresses, it
 is easier to fake the MAC address to what I need,
 than to start a procedure with the computer center
 to change the MAC address of a certain IP number.
 

One of these days you need to start spoofing the mac of
the default gateway they are using, and I would suspect
after a few weeks or months of that they will jettison the
whole register MAC address procedure.

Recording the MAC address only has validity when they are
assigning a specific MAC to a specific hardware port on the
switch by using intelligent switches that filter.  But if they
are using dumb hubs then they are just being idiots and
making work for themselves.

 I manage to do this easily on my FreeBSD PCs.
 
 However, my colleagues are suprised and ask me how
 to do this on their MS-Windows systems.
 

It's incredibly easy to do, just go into driver properties
for just about every network driver ever written for Windows.
Of course, this illustrates perfectly the absurdity of
continually trying to make computers easier and easier and
easier to use with a GUI - no matter how much simpler you
make it, the people you are trying to serve will always outrace
you in ignorance.

Ted
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RE: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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  ...ummm this is rather like a windows admin saying s/he never
  updates windows.

 If it's a Windows _server_, I never do any updates that are not
 absolutely necessary.


The ISP I work at has a sister company that is a network services
company.

One of the several techs that work for that company has your
attitude.  He's been burned a few times when he's installed patches
that broke existing software at a customer.

However, the customers that he cares for have the highest percentage
of broken-into servers.  (by outside crackers)

From our point of view over at the ISP it seems to us that the pain
of dealing with an app that breaks as a result of a security update
is less than dealing with the pain of cleaning up a server that is
broken into.  And we have also observed that no matter how long the
techs there work on a Windows server that has been broken into, once
it's broken into it seems to get regularly re-broken into in the future,
unless they nuke and repave it.

I guess your attitude is safe enough if you regularly backup and you
don't have critical data like credit cards or patient data or
whatever that you don't want to have spread around.

  Updating. yes you are constantly updating on a production server,
  unless your idea of fun is somebody compromising your machine.

 Unless the OS is a Swiss cheese of bugs, constant updating is not
 necessary.  If the OS is so insecure that you must constantly update
 just to stay ahead of the kiddies, it's time to think of installing a
 different OS.


Frankly I find this rather silly.  The OS does very little that helps
a cracker.  About the only thing that bugs in the OS will allow a cracker
to do is DoS a TCP/IP stack.

The difficulty is in the application programs, such as nfs, samba,
http, telnetd, sshd, smtp, dns, etc. which all of in the past had
security holes discovered and closed - sometimes repeatedly.  The
same goes for Microsoft's products.

Just because an app like IIS is bundled with Windows Server, and an
app like telnetd is bundled with UNIX, does not mean that when those
apps got cracked, that the OS was the problem.

Ted

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RE: complete rookie sendmail question

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 To: Ken Hawkins
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: complete rookie sendmail question


 On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Ken Hawkins wrote:

  alright I found an old blurb about handling a scenario
 similar to mine:
 
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-July/
 014468.html
 
  it essentially says:
 
 
  If you want to get FreeBSD to forward your email to the MS-Exchange
  server, you have to:
 
 1. make sure sendmail is running. (ie remove sendmail_* lines from
/etc/rc.conf)

 Put sendmail_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.

 2. # cd /etc/mail
 3. # cp freebsd.mc `hostname`.mc

 That's doing things the hard way and might miss things the
 Makefile will
 do for you.

This is true unless your running a full-blown production mailserver for
a company or some such.  In that case you had better be sufficiently
experienced that the makefile will just get in your way.

Ted

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RE: WRITE_DMA errors on SATA drive under 5.3-RELEASE

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Subject: Re: WRITE_DMA errors on SATA drive under 5.3-RELEASE


 Mike Tancsa writes:

  Could be a bad sector on the drive, or bad cable. Hard to say.  Try
  /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/
 
  It can read all sorts of info off the drive and help you narrow down
  what the problem might be.

 Wow!  That is a very cool tool.  There's even a Windows port so I can
 use it on my XP machine.

 The two SATA drives show no errors.  The older IDE drive
 (which contains
 the filesystem root) shows the stuff below.  There have been over 1000
 read errors over the lifetime of the disk, but the disk had some hard
 times back in December when it was in my overheated old server, so that
 might account for part of that.  The most recent errors look like they
 might correlate with what I saw today (unfortunately, I'm not sure how
 to interpret them):

Rule of thumb on IDE hard drives, if they show more than a few errors
with a
tool like smartmon, they need to be thrown in the garbage.

Heat is the number one enemy of hard drives.  If this drive overheated,
particularly over a long timeperiod, resistance values and semiconductor
values can shift, permanently, in the electronics of the drive.  So even
if the heads and platters are still good, your on borrowed time with the
circuit board.  And since it's the circuit board that's dodgy, the drive
surface isn't failing, so the problems aren't going to register with
S.M.A.R.T.

Despite S.M.A.R.T., the vast majority of IDE hard drives that fail, fail
without warning.

Ted

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Deleting orphaned ports

2005-02-28 Thread Nicolas
Hello,
Is there a way I can find all orphaned ports on FreeBSD (by using 
portupgrade or not) ?

By orphaned ports I mean ports that are not used by any other ports 
(though they may be used by users, in which case it's up to me to decide 
wether to delete them).

Thank you.
Nicolas
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Re: How would you install all Gnome ports?

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 05:32:34PM -0600, Chris wrote:
 Chris Hodgins wrote:
 Chris wrote:
 
 Chris Hodgins wrote:
 
 Chris wrote:
 
 Is there an all inclusive command to install all Gnome ports from 
 within the ports tree?
 
 
 Not everything but enough to get you started:
 
 /usr/ports/x11/gnome2$ cat pkg-descr
 GNU Network Object Model Environment
 
 This metaport installs the entire GNOME 2 desktop, including
 the the most common user applications.  Other popular GNOME
 applications can be installed from the other GNOME 2 metaports:
 
 * x11/gnome2-fifth-toe
 * x11/gnome2-power-tools
 * editors/gnome2-office
 * devel/gnome2-hacker-tools
 
 WWW: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/
 
 
 
 Perfect - this is exactly what I wanted. I'm a KDE munkie myself, but 
 I wanted to dabble w/Gnome.
 
 Thank you Chris H.
 
 
 I would also highly recommend Xfce4.2. :)
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 I would - but I'm not into intense modification to my wm. A few teaks 
 here and there ore fine, but if I need to learn to setup a decent wm, 
 then it sorta defeats the purpose.

I don't think it neccessarily defeats the purpose, the default settings
usually work just fine in my experience.  But I've found that some other
windows manager like fvwm2 offer much more flexibility in setting them
up than anything kde or gnome's metacity offer.  And best of all, once
you have it tweaked perfectly, then all I you have to do is copy a text
file around.  For fvwm2, thats .fvwm2rc.  Every system I use KDE on I
have to spend quite a while customizing it to fit me.  And even then I
always miss certain shortcuts that I use a lot.  Now if I had to start
from scratch writing my .fvwm2rc, then I probably never would have, but
luckily a good default one is provided.

 
 I love BSD under a wm, but I don't have the luxury of spending hours to 
 days makeing a kick-ass looking environment. That's just me tho - I 
 have seen what other can do - I lack the creative-eye to do that fancy 
 stuff.
 
 
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 Best regards,
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Re: 5.3 + nvidia GeForce 6600 GT + amd64

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 07:58:59PM -0800, Ward Willats wrote:
 Hello Everyone.
 
 I just bought me a spiffy new amd64 box with an nvidia GeForce 6600 
 card. I am running Freebsd 5.3/amd64 and xorg.
 
 Though I love the games, my most important need for this machine is 
 to do software development -- so I don't need the 3D stuff at all 
 right now.
 
 I tried the OSS nvidia driver -- it didn't detect the screen.
 
 The nvidia-driver port does not work on amd64 (I think I remember 
 it complaining...)
 
 The nvidia site has 64 bit binaries for Linux, but if there is a 
 magic way to wrap them for use in FreeBSD I don't know what it is.
 
 Anyway, the Vesa driver would be good enough for my needs, and 
 indeed, it easily drives the card to various resolutions, but all the 
 built-in modes are with a 60hz refresh rate and the flicker drives me 
 nuts.

You could try using xrandr to change the refresh rate.  The other option
might be to modify the monitor section in ur xorg.conf file with
VertRefresh, I believe, to set a refresh range starting just above 60hz.

 
 Guess I can concoct a custom modeline to raise the refresh rate with 
 the vesa driver, but that seems like a pretty primitive way to go 
 here in THE FUTURE. So thought I'd ask if you folks had any 
 suggestions.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- Ward
 
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Re: tcpdump install issues

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:01:54PM +0800, FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
 I have recently installed FreeBSD 5.3 from CD onto a couple of
 servers.  I updated the /usr/src and /usr/ports to  RELENG_5.  When I
 try to install tcpdump from the ports, the make fails with the last
 line being
 
 Error: shared library pcap.2 does not exist
 *** Error code 1
 
 I know I didn't have this problem when I installed 5.3 on a couple of
 servers last month, so does anyone know what is causing this?

The port is broken (see http://pointyhat.freebsd.org); talk to the
maintainer.

Kris

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Re: samba ldap

2005-02-28 Thread Florian Hengstberger
Disabled by default? Sorry, but I've never specified any
ldap options in my smb.conf but the server always tries
to authentificate the users with an ldap server.

Florian


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  Hi list!
  I'm still using 5.2.1 and samba from /usr/ports/net/samba.
  Is there a way to disable ldap, it seems that it is compiled
  into the binary. Do i have to recompile (which switch?) or
  is there a simpler way.
 
 Hi,
 
 after a quick look in the Makefile for net/samba it seems that LDAP 
 support is disabled by default. it can be enabled at compile time by 
 specifying WITH_LDAP=yes. so, if you recompile net/samba without 
 specifying WITH_LDAP on the command line or in /etc/make.conf, you should 
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make etc broken

2005-02-28 Thread Warren
i was clearing out some files in /usr and accidentally did something and now 
command such as:  clear, make, whereis no longer work ... how can i get them 
back to working ?
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Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 Instead, they are part of the kernel itself.
 
 All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple
 files that take up only a few bytes of space.  They are convenient
 hook points to use to get to these devices.  That is, when a program
 accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file.  Instead,
 the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening
 that device with the output of the actual device.
 
 This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility,
 rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is
 accessing the device, not creating the device file.
 
 So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at
 all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the
 access point to them.  The devices are still there in the kernel.

No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and
only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel.
As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random
are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the
situations in which one would not want to include them are limited.

Kris


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Re: Deleting orphaned ports

2005-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:46:08AM +0100, Nicolas wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is there a way I can find all orphaned ports on FreeBSD (by using 
 portupgrade or not) ?
 
 By orphaned ports I mean ports that are not used by any other ports 
 (though they may be used by users, in which case it's up to me to decide 
 wether to delete them).

sysutils/pkg_cutleaves

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Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Rob

--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem
 and /dev/random
 are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although
 as I replied, the
 situations in which one would not want to include
 them are limited.
 

What triggered my question, was what I found in the
man page of io:

 The special file /dev/io is a controlled
 security hole that allows a process to gain
 I/O privileges (which are normally reserved
 for kernel-internal code).

So I thought, if it's not needed (since I have no
X installed), then it better should go.

BTW I do not have it in the kernel config, but load
io, mem and random as a module via /boot/loader.conf.
I suppose that's the same.

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RE: HOWTO : Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2 port in FBSD 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valery
 Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:35 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: HOWTO : Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2 port
 in FBSD 5.3


 * Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2 port in FBSD 5.3
... and others ... *


Hey Valery, a few things on this:

This only works for mice that support the intellimouse protocol.

Simplest way to find out if your mouse supports this is to kill
the moused daemon, then issue the command:

moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -d -f

and read the first line, it will print out the model of the mouse
(for example MouseMan+) then move the
wheel up and down should generate a stream of events on the console

If moving the wheel generates nothing, buy a different mouse.

usb and serial mice with wheels can be tested with the same procedure
except change the port -p  of course.

 1. Must know
   ps2 bus   : the ps/2 bus is mapped as /dev/psm0
   /dev/psm0 : support only 'ps/2' protocol ( moused(8) )
   moused : map /dev/psm0 as a virtual port to
/dev/sysmouse (ie like /dev/ttyv0 is a virtual tty)
   X : work with the /dev/sysmouse virtual device as
 input device.
   xorg.conf : When setting up Protocol to Auto the protocol choosed
   by X is ps/2 which don't work for me (i don't know how to
   use a wheel with it without setting up parms for
 each apps)
   xorg.conf : setting up Protocol to sysmouse is the best
 way i find
   to use my wheel. /sysmouse/ work natively with xterm,
   Mozilla, and so on. No needs to change anything.


You should NEVER set the protocol for the mouse in either Xfree86 or
xorg to anything other than sysmouse, when using FreeBSD.  And, if
your going to run X you should -always- run moused.

Per the man page if you use moused, ps/2 or auto are the only acceptable
protocols that are allowed to be set for the ps/2 port.

During the FreeBSD installation for 4.X you are asked to set these up.

 2. Parameters
   /etc/rc.conf :
   moused -p /dev/psm0 -t ps/2

moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto

is setup by the FreeBSD installation program and it will work just as
well.

Note - many wheel mice use a push on the wheel as a second button.


   /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
   Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 OptionProtocol sysmouse
 OptionDevice /dev/sysmouse
 OptionButtons 5
 OptionZAxisMapping X

This probably should be:

  OptionZAxisMapping 4 5

In fact, the only thing that generally needs to be added to this section
is:

  OptionButtons 5
  OptionZAxisMapping 4 5


   EndSection

 3. Some tips
   Testing :
   1 - kill the moused daemon
   2 - set mouse on console : vidcontrol -m on
   3 - launch moused on foreground to see if it's work :
moused -f -p /dev/psm0 -t ps/2
   4 - press ^C to end
   5 - if result are ok, launch moused with your previous parms
   6 - set up rc.conf  xorg.conf as above.
   7 - try to use a lightweight wm like IceWM or twm to test,
   it respect well X parms.


For testing with twm:

fill an xterm with text, scroll up and down.

firefox also supports the scroll wheel.

 4. Comments
i don't know why, but logoff/login or reboot your computer
 in order to
   get this stuff working properly : first time i set this parms, they
   don't work. Because i was almost sure they must work, i rebooted my
   computer and they work fine. Perhaps some guy from BSD could
   explain ...


I don't understand how your X server got:

   My X.log whith the 'sysmouse' protocol :
.
.
   (**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
   (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5

when you had configured

  OptionZAxisMapping X

If I knew I could probably tell you why rebooting worked.

Ted

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Re: 5.3 + nvidia GeForce 6600 GT + amd64

2005-02-28 Thread Alastair G. Hogge
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:58, Ward Willats wrote:
 Hello Everyone.
Hello,

 I just bought me a spiffy new amd64 box with an nvidia GeForce 6600
 card. I am running Freebsd 5.3/amd64 and xorg.

 Though I love the games, my most important need for this machine is
 to do software development -- so I don't need the 3D stuff at all
 right now.

 I tried the OSS nvidia driver -- it didn't detect the screen.

 The nvidia-driver port does not work on amd64 (I think I remember
 it complaining...)

 The nvidia site has 64 bit binaries for Linux, but if there is a
 magic way to wrap them for use in FreeBSD I don't know what it is.
I can't help you. But, maybe you add a me too and list your hardware to this 
NVIDIA AMD64 on FreeBSD thread?:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545

-Al
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Re: tap interface, bridging and freebsd 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Andrea Riela wrote:
Hi folks,
I would test openvpn with bridging options, then I need a tap interface.
I've compiled my kernel with
devicetap
then 'kldload if_tap' via command line
These are mutually exclusive: either you compile your kernel with tap or
you load it as a module, not both.

but I don't see a tap interface in /dev or with ifconfig ...
You won't see any network interface in /dev; just run ifconfig -a and
check: you won't find any of the listed devices in /dev.

Obviously:
tcpdump -i tap0
tcpdump: BIOCSETIF: tap0: Device not configured
taps will come up when some programs activates it. Once you have openvpn
correctly running, you'll see tap0 in ifconfig's output and you'll be
able to run tcpdump against it.
 bye
av.
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Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:58:17AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:10:12 -0700 Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
   Alright, I got it all working now.  Not sure how to change the time
   zone with config files, so I just used sysinstall to change it to MST
   (time zone is arbitrary, but since this is the zone I live in, it's
   convenient for me).  Then I used ntpdate to sync it, and it's working
   well now.
   
   Thanks for pointing that out to me.  I just thought that CET was central 
 time :)
 
 Yes sysinstall's as good a way as any, it'll set your timezone and also
 let you choose between running with a UTC or local time CMOS clock.  Or
 you can manually tun tzsetup(8) and create (or not) /etc/wall_cmos_clock
 .. see adjkerntz(8) 
 
 Take little notice of people opining that you must or even should run
 CMOS UTC time; that's entirely up to you.  I've always preferred local
 time CMOS clocks personally; sysinstall creates /etc/wall_cmos_clock and
 cron runs 'adjkerntz -a' halfhourly at times when daylight savings time
 might come or go in your zone, and that's always worked fine here. 

The reason using UTC for the cmos clock is that it never changes like US
daylight savings does.  Now if your timezone doesn't ever need to be
pushed forward or backwards then it won't be a problem, but otherwise
evertime the system boots up, it has to determine if the cmos time is
correct or needs to be adjusted.  A UTC time will always be correct and
can be turned exactly into the correct time at the moment.  I think that
if FreeBSD crashed just after it booted up and adjusted the hour forward,
then on the next reboot, it would adjust it another hour forward.  In
general, it is just harder to manage.  Even worse would be my Quad boot
system with Gentoo Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD.  If I used local
time for my cmos clock then every daylight savings change, each os would
adjust the clock independently and I'd be 3 hours off.

 
 The only thing to watch running wall_cmos_clock is that if you boot to
 single user mode, before /etc/rc has run 'adjkerntz -i' the system will
 assume CMOS is UTC, so any files then modified show timestamps in UTC
 (discovered the hard way in Jan 2000 on a box with a broken y2k BIOS :)
 
 Cheers, Ian
 
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Compiling

2005-02-28 Thread Bhaban Singh
This is my first question in this org. i am interesting to compiling
and source code of FreeBSD. So please tell me how to compile.

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Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?

2005-02-28 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Leonard Zettel writes:

My own experiences have given me a definite bias toward using the
ports system to compile stuff to be added to my system rather than
going with the binary packages.  I get the impression that many
port maintainers who are fairly careful about keeping their port
versions workable and patched only give a relative lick and promise
to their packages.

Unfortunately, bugs in the handling of my SCSI disks prevent me from
doing anything that is disk-intensive without crashing the system, so
downloading the ports collection probably won't be possible.
Anthony, I understand your frustration. I think you should fix the SCSI 
problems before doing anything. The ports collection really works very 
well. Perhaps some experts here can help you with your SCSI. I am a 
FreeBSD novice ;-)

Ramiro.
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hd timeouts.

2005-02-28 Thread Perttu Laine
Hi!

I'm just wondering what does this means. Dying harddisk or something
else? From kernel log:

-cut-
 ad0: 28629MB ST330621A/3.39 [58168/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4
 ad5: 190782MB WDC WD2000JB-00FUA0/15.05R15 [387621/16/63] at ata2-slave PIO4
 ad5: TIMEOUT - READ_MUL retrying (2 retries left) LBA=382096511
 ad5: FAILURE - READ_MUL timed out
-cut-

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RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions
 Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?


 On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  Instead, they are part of the kernel itself.
 
  All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple
  files that take up only a few bytes of space.  They are convenient
  hook points to use to get to these devices.  That is, when
 a program
  accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file.  Instead,
  the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening
  that device with the output of the actual device.
 
  This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility,
  rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is
  accessing the device, not creating the device file.
 
  So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at
  all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the
  access point to them.  The devices are still there in the kernel.

 No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and
 only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel.

Ah, yes I wasn't paying attention, he did say 5.  I stopped paying
attention
after reading that he was wanting to remove /dev/random.

 As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random
 are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the
 situations in which one would not want to include them are limited.


Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random
device
will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly
improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X

Ted

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RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:11 AM
 To: FreeBSD questions
 Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
 
 
 What triggered my question, was what I found in the
 man page of io:
 
  The special file /dev/io is a controlled
  security hole that allows a process to gain
  I/O privileges (which are normally reserved
  for kernel-internal code).
 
 So I thought, if it's not needed (since I have no
 X installed), then it better should go.

If your server isn't chained to a steel post set in concrete then it
is a security risk to put data on it because someone might steal it
and read all your data.

Unfortunately, too many people read the words security hole and their
brain short-circuits and they stop thinking.

It is possible to argue that any possible thing you do in your life from
getting up in the morning and taking a dump to going to bed at night is
a security risk.  It is possible to make people do a lot of ignorant and
stupid things (at least in the United States) right now by waving around
the security flag.

Just because something appears to not be used is no good reason for
removing it.  If it really was useless it wouldn't be there in the
first place.

Ted
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RE: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ramiro Aceves
 Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:33 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?


 Anthony, I understand your frustration. I think you should fix
 the SCSI
 problems before doing anything. The ports collection really works very
 well. Perhaps some experts here can help you with your SCSI. I am a
 FreeBSD novice ;-)


I agree Ramiro, I've setup dozens and dozens of different SCSI setups,
and I think that his problem is hardware, such as incorrect
termination, a bad scsi cable, bad connectors on the cable, or an
incompatible SCSI/disk combination (which is rare, but it does happen)

Others have suggested this to him though and he either ignores them or
insists he's checked all that.

Ted

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Re: HOWTO : Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2 port in FBSD 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Valery
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hey Valery, a few things on this:
This only works for mice that support the intellimouse protocol.
Simplest way to find out if your mouse supports this is to kill
the moused daemon, then issue the command:
moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -d -f
All right, this explain a lot of mis-understand things i found
on the net (same parms working for one and not for others)
You should NEVER set the protocol for the mouse in either Xfree86 or
xorg to anything other than sysmouse, when using FreeBSD.  And, if
your going to run X you should -always- run moused.
Ok, that's what i found. But, why X choose ps/2 when Protocol
is set to Auto ?
I'm afraid that informations about Protocol sysmouse are very
difficult to find. I did not on my side, not even on the net nor
on the FreeBSD or X documentations.
Note - many wheel mice use a push on the wheel as a second button.
Thank
I don't understand how your X server got:
 My X.log whith the 'sysmouse' protocol :
(**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
(**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
when you had configured
  OptionZAxisMapping X
If I knew I could probably tell you why rebooting worked.
Sorry, it was the previous version of my log file.
(always difficult to write a summary with a lot of pieces)
Perhaps a mobo pb., or a forgot of mine, no matter to worry about that.
I'm sometimes Aemnesiac too ... :o)
Many thanks Ted for your tips. i hope that the whole thing will be
interesting for others, sheding a light on this stuff.
Just a little thing - to be clean - i found after posting :
2. Parameters
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
Section InputDevice
  # All parms according to previous posts and ...
  Option  Emulate3Buttons Off
EndSection
Regards,
v/
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RE: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
 Atkielski
 Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 1:45 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD?


 Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

  Cisco's online knowledgebase is far superior.

 Since Cisco equipment is outside my budget, I've never had any occasion
 to look at theirs, but I'll take your word for it.

One word: ebay

 (Then again,
 hopefully I wouldn't _need_ the knowledgebase if I had Cisco gear.)


No, you would.  Cisco gear, once it's setup to be reliable, it stays
reliable and rarely needs attention.  However, getting it to that point,
and getting yourself to the point that you can set it up so that it's
reliable, can sometimes take some doing.

Ted

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Upgrading perl 5.8

2005-02-28 Thread Stefan Cars
Hi!
I'm upgrading perl 5.8 from the ports on a FreeBSD 5.3 machine, the 
problem is that alot of my installed modules doesn't work after the 
update (just a minor update from 5.8.2 to 5.8.6), probably becuase the 
@INC changed and did not include the mach directory of 5.8.2. Is this 
right ? Why can't it include the 5.8.2 mach dir ?

/S
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Re: Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?

2005-02-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-02-28 01:32, Joshua Tinnin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 27 February 2005 08:11 pm, Clay wrote:
 I am for the most part a newbie to FreeBSD.  I am wanting to move
 some config files from their standard location to a single
 directory and create symlinks for each.  Doing this will allow me
 to more easily maintain and backup the files.

 dhclient is able to use dhclient.conf when symlink'd.  Apache seems
 to also work when httpd.conf is symlink'd.

 Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?  I have done and the
 file isn't being read/found.  Moving the actual file back to /etc
 fixed the problem.

 I am not entirely sure, but to hazard a guess, this isn't working
 because rc.conf loads before the other filesystems in /etc/fstab are
 mounted, and you have the actual rc.conf file on one of those
 filesystems (though you didn't specify). Apache (httpd) and dhclient
 run after they are mounted. Thus, you would be able to symlink
 rc.conf as long as the actual file is in the root filesystem (I
 think), but I'm not sure if that's a good idea - it might be
 alright, just never done it before.

Correct.

Some of the /etc/rc.d scripts need to read rc.conf before any of the
filesystems have been mounted.  Those scripts will fail if all they
can see is a root filesystem, mounted read-only, and cannot access
rc.conf options (because rc.conf has been moved somewhere else).

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Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions
  Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
   Instead, they are part of the kernel itself.
  
   All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on, are simple
   files that take up only a few bytes of space.  They are convenient
   hook points to use to get to these devices.  That is, when
  a program
   accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that file.  Instead,
   the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening
   that device with the output of the actual device.
  
   This is why these device files are created with the mknod utility,
   rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since doing that is
   accessing the device, not creating the device file.
  
   So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at
   all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only deletes the
   access point to them.  The devices are still there in the kernel.
 
  No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and
  only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel.
 
 Ah, yes I wasn't paying attention, he did say 5.  I stopped paying
 attention
 after reading that he was wanting to remove /dev/random.
 
  As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random
  are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I replied, the
  situations in which one would not want to include them are limited.
 
 
 Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead of the random
 device
 will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly
 improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X

Is the /dev/random on FreeBSD really this bad?  I thought it should be
better since it can gather entropy from all over the kernel like
interrupts.  I'm pretty sure I read that linuxes /dev/random was far
supieror to prng and I'd expect FreeBSD to be the same unless someone
was lazy in implementing it or there is some major security hole in it.

 
 Ted
 
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RE: HOWTO : Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2 port in FBSD 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Valery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:24 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: HOWTO : Setting Up a mouse + wheel on a traditional ps/2
 port in FBSD 5.3


 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  Hey Valery, a few things on this:
 
  This only works for mice that support the intellimouse protocol.
 
  Simplest way to find out if your mouse supports this is to kill
  the moused daemon, then issue the command:
 
  moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -d -f
 

 All right, this explain a lot of mis-understand things i found
 on the net (same parms working for one and not for others)

  You should NEVER set the protocol for the mouse in either Xfree86 or
  xorg to anything other than sysmouse, when using FreeBSD.  And, if
  your going to run X you should -always- run moused.
 
 Ok, that's what i found. But, why X choose ps/2 when Protocol
 is set to Auto ?

auto instructs the mouse daemon that when it sees a ps/2 port to use
the ps/2 protocol, when it sees a serial port to probe for that, when
it sees a usb port to setup for usb protocol.

It is preferable particularly in a doc like this because it applies
universally.

 I'm afraid that informations about Protocol sysmouse are very
 difficult to find. I did not on my side, not even on the net nor
 on the FreeBSD or X documentations.


You don't need to worry about it.  Any problems between moused and
X's support for the sysmouse protocol are something an ordinary user
probably will never see.  This can be ignored as the problem of the
moused authors and X authors.

What an ordinary user needs to be concerned with is if moused is
correctly talking to their rodent.

  Note - many wheel mice use a push on the wheel as a second button.

 Thank

  I don't understand how your X server got:
 
   My X.log whith the 'sysmouse' protocol :
 (**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
 (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
 
  when you had configured
 
OptionZAxisMapping X
 
  If I knew I could probably tell you why rebooting worked.

 Sorry, it was the previous version of my log file.
 (always difficult to write a summary with a lot of pieces)
 Perhaps a mobo pb., or a forgot of mine, no matter to worry about that.
 I'm sometimes Aemnesiac too ... :o)

 Many thanks Ted for your tips. i hope that the whole thing will be
 interesting for others, sheding a light on this stuff.

 Just a little thing - to be clean - i found after posting :
 2. Parameters
   /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
  Section InputDevice
# All parms according to previous posts and ...
Option  Emulate3Buttons Off

It's off whenever more than 2 buttons are detected - a wheel mouse always
has more than 2 - but this might prevent a useless error message in the
log

Ted

  EndSection

 Regards,

 v/


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Re: Compiling

2005-02-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-02-28 20:46, Bhaban Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is my first question in this org. i am interesting to compiling
 and source code of FreeBSD. So please tell me how to compile.

First of all, make sure you have the full source tree.  The Handbook
contains instructions about obtaining the source, i.e. with CVSup.
For details, see:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

Then read /usr/src/UPDATING.  After skimming through the recently
added entries near the top, pay very close attention to the section
``To rebuild everything and install it on the current system.''

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Re: Can /etc/rc.conf be replaced with a symlink?

2005-02-28 Thread Clay
I realized what the problem mostly likely was after submitting the question. 
I do believe that the mount point where I am wanting to have rc.conf located 
is not yet available when the file is read.  Is there a way to have this FS 
mounted prior to rc.conf being read?  Could I maybe place this mount point 
above the root in fstab?  I will give it try when I have time later today.

Thanks,
-Clay 


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RE: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?

2005-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Loren M. Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:40 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Kris Kennaway; Rob; FreeBSD questions
 Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?


 On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 04:11:24AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 AM
   To: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: Rob; FreeBSD questions
   Subject: Re: /dev/io , /dev/mem : only used by Xorg?
  
  
   On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:32:26AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  
Instead, they are part of the kernel itself.
   
All the /dev files are, /dev/random, /dev/ad0 and so on,
 are simple
files that take up only a few bytes of space.  They are
 convenient
hook points to use to get to these devices.  That is, when
   a program
accesses /dev/random, it isn't actually opening that
 file.  Instead,
the kernel intercepts that call and supplies the program opening
that device with the output of the actual device.
   
This is why these device files are created with the
 mknod utility,
rather than just copying a file to /dev/random - since
 doing that is
accessing the device, not creating the device file.
   
So, deleting these /dev devices saves you practically no space at
all, and does not in fact delete the devices - it only
 deletes the
access point to them.  The devices are still there in the kernel.
  
   No, in 5.x the device nodes are created automatically by devfs and
   only appear in /dev by default if support is enabled in the kernel.
 
  Ah, yes I wasn't paying attention, he did say 5.  I stopped paying
  attention
  after reading that he was wanting to remove /dev/random.
 
   As the original poster discussed, /dev/io, /dev/mem and /dev/random
   are optional components of the 5.x kernel, although as I
 replied, the
   situations in which one would not want to include them are limited.
  
 
  Actually, recompiling openssl to use a prng daemon instead
 of the random
  device
  will probably improve your ssh security - unless they have greatly
  improved the entropy generation in the random device in 5.X

 Is the /dev/random on FreeBSD really this bad?

Yes - there's some random testing suites on the Internet, find a
few and compile them. (ENT for example) Run them repeatedly and see what
happens.

Part of the problem is that BY DEFAULT the random device DOES NOT
look at interrupts.  See the man page for rndcontrol.  Presumably
the system admin of the system knows this and looks at his dmesg
output to see which irq's are assigned to network cards and hard
disks (which are fairly good sources of randomness) and sets the
random device to use these.  In practice this isn't something mentioned
in the install docs so it is very unlikely many people know.

Another strange thing is that /dev/random should block when it
runs out of entropy - it doesen't seem to do so, however.  And the
device doesen't seem to gain entropy that quickly.

 I thought it should be
 better since it can gather entropy from all over the kernel like
 interrupts.  I'm pretty sure I read that linuxes /dev/random was far
 supieror to prng and I'd expect FreeBSD to be the same unless someone
 was lazy in implementing it or there is some major security hole in it.


The FreeBSD random device is a port of the same Linux code.

Interestingly enough, Sun's Solaris x86 random driver sucks too in the
same way, runs out of entropy quickly and doesen't recharge that rapidly.

There's a couple people who have written prngs which they claim are far
superior to the random devices.  Do a search and you will run across
them.

An excellent random device would be a portable fm radio tuned to in
between
stations and feeding the mic input of a soundcard.  That's what you use
when
you don't want NSA's supercomputers breaking your keys. ;-)  But of
course if
you pulled entropy out of that too fast, you would run into the speed
limitations
of the D/A converter in the soundcard input.

Ted

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Re: Upgrading perl 5.8

2005-02-28 Thread Daniel Bye
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:34:30PM +0100, Stefan Cars wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I'm upgrading perl 5.8 from the ports on a FreeBSD 5.3 machine, the 
 problem is that alot of my installed modules doesn't work after the 
 update (just a minor update from 5.8.2 to 5.8.6), probably becuase the 
 @INC changed and did not include the mach directory of 5.8.2. Is this 
 right ? Why can't it include the 5.8.2 mach dir ?

There's nothing to stop you adding the 5.8.2 directories to @INC.  But
the cleanest way to solve this is to upgrade everything else on your
system that depends on Perl.  Portmanager is really good for this sort
of task.

Dan

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Re: Dell 5160 Wireless Ethernet

2005-02-28 Thread John
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:57:09 -0500, Philip M. Golllucci wrote
 Hi,
 
 I've got a dell 5160 notebook with builtin wireless ethernet.
 Windows XP home detects it as Dell Wireless WLAN 1350 Mini-PCI Card
 
 Freebsd5.2.1-RELEASE detects it as
 
 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
 cbb0: [MPSAFE]
 fwohci0: vendor=104c, dev=8029
 fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 
 0xfaff4000-0xfaff7fff,0xfaffb800-0xfaffbfff irq 16 at device 4.1 on pci2
 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0)
 fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4.
 fwohci0: EUI64 37:4f:c0:00:3a:98:e4:c1
 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
 fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
 firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
 fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 36:4f:c0:98:e4:c1
 sbp0: SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire on firewire0
 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
 fwohci0: BUS reset
 fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
 firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop = 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
 firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
 
 unfortunately, I have 0 experience with firewire. 
 I edited my  /etc/rc.conf file accordingly
 ifconfig_fwe0=DHCP

hmm! are you sure it isn't just picking up a built-in firewire port, and not
picking up the micro-pci card at all?  

I have an intel-based laptop (samsung v70) with a wireless micropci card built
in which is detected as fxp0
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PF Broken

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Lewis
Hi,

I'm struggling with PF on FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE...

I've got a custom kernel configuration; including:
device pf
device pflog

In rc.conf I've set:
pf_enable=YES
pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf
pf_flags=
pflog_enable=YES
pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog
pflog_flags=

dmesg -a shows:
ELF ldconfig path: /lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib
a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout
link_elf: symbol in6_cksum undefined
kldload: 
can't load pf
: 
No such file or directory
/etc/rc: ERROR: pflog module failed to load.
link_elf: symbol in6_cksum undefined
kldload: 
can't load pf
: 
No such file or directory
/etc/rc: ERROR: pf module failed to load.

pfctl -sa says:
pfctl: /dev/pf: No such file or directory

How do I make it work? ;)

Best,
-AL.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-28 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski typed:
 Loren M. Lang writes:

  I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since
  you can mount cdroms.  /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right?  And the
  disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting
  it?
 
 Yes to both questions.  But it must be securelevel, because it works on
 the test machine.  The man page doesn't say anything about this
 restriction, though, nor is it obvious from what the page does say.

From the securelevel manpage (which is symlinked to init(8) ):

 1 Secure mode - the system immutable and system append-only flags may
   not be turned off; disks for mounted file systems, /dev/mem,
   /dev/kmem and /dev/io (if your platform has it) may not be opened
   for writing; kernel modules (see kld(4)) may not be loaded or
   unloaded.

 2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not be
   opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or not.
   This level precludes tampering with file systems by unmounting
   them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is multi-
   user.
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only 1 card is active, why

2005-02-28 Thread gr
I use freebsd-5.3release as a gateway. I have 2 realtek 8139 card, one
for Internet and the other for LAN. But when I execute ifconfig, only
1 card(rl0) is shown active, and the other(rl1) is shown no carrier.
And when I exchange the wire, rl0 changes to no carrier, and rl1
changes to active. It seems that only 1 card can be in use. What
can I do? Thanks.


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Re: PF Broken

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Lewis
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:34:09 +0200
Andrew Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do I make it work? ;)

Forgot to run make installkernel. :(

It's funny laugh

-AL.

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Re: I killed my system with grep

2005-02-28 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Loren M. Lang wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:42:48PM -0500, Parv wrote:
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Loren M. Lang thusly...
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
I am running a FreeBSD 5.3 system with 64MB RAM and 150 MB swap.
Yesterday I entered the command:
# grep -R something /
You probably hit a file under /dev/ and caused grep to hang.  It's
possible that as root, certain device files might hang the system,
but nothing comes to mind at the moment unless /dev/io could do
it.  Also, think about what happens when grep hit's /dev/zero.  It
will never finish.
Would using -I option (not search text-like files) help to avoid
above described hang ups in /dev?

No, it still searches all files, it just doesn't print the usual line
that it matched, only whether there was success or not.  You really just
need to make sure grep never goes into /dev.  Since your running 5.x,
/dev is it's own filesystem of a unique type, so the following command
will run grep on only filesystems of type ufs, which won't include
network filesystems, or /dev:
find / -fstype ufs -exec grep -H something {} \;

 - Parv
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Many thanks for the valuable info!
I will never grep into /dev
Ramiro.
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Re: PF Broken

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Lewis
So here's another question:

pfctl says:
No ALTQ support in kernel
ALTQ related functions disabled

^- I remember reading something about there being early support available for 
this under fBSD? Where do I find the patches to make this work?

I'm intending on using PF for shaping *only* so this is what I need. :)

-AL.

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Re: PF Broken

2005-02-28 Thread Andrew Lewis
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:42:57 +0100
Dominique Goncalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 man altq ;-)

Oh... Ok... So I set the relevant options in the kernel, rebuilt  it looks 
good - thankyou. :) :) :)

Excuse my nonsense AheaHeaHe aHeooHAeHAaHa Thanku, Thanku...

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Boot error - 3Com 3C509-TPO Etherlink 3

2005-02-28 Thread Paul Bickford
Hey there. I'm trying to do a fresh install of 5.3, but can't get past 
this error:

  ep0: 3Com 3C509-TPO EtherLink III at port 0x300-0x30f irq10 on isa0
  ep0: No irq?!
  ep0: ep_alloc() failed! (6)
  panic: resource_list_release: resource entry is not busy
  Uptime: 1s
  Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort
I had no problem with this model of NIC under 5.1, but I can't seem to 
get going with 5.3. I've swapped cards, swapped machines, swapped 
installation methods (floppy-vs-CD), and I always get the same error.

Had I the choice, I'd just try a different model card, but that's not 
an option for me (the machine I'm installing it on doesn't have PCI 
slots, and I have gobs of these NICs at my disposal).

Any idea what happened between 5.1 and 5.3 to break this card? How can 
I get past this error?

Thanks!
Paul.
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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-28 Thread Kevin A. Pieckiel
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:05:17PM +, Wouter van Rooij wrote:
 I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to do a make buildworld.
 So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)

Between 22 to 26 hours.  Pentium classic, 166MHz, 32 MB RAM.

When I bumped up the RAM to 48, it cut that down to under a day because
it didn't have to swap all the time.  I think it was somehwere between
8 and 16 hours then.

Oh, on my good system, it takes about 15 mins.
Dual P4 3.2 GHz with HT enabled (four virtual procs)
1 GB RAM

And I haven't done a recent buildworld on my dual proc Alpha in a while.
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Re: Deleting orphaned ports

2005-02-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Monday 28 February 2005 02:46 am, Nicolas wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there a way I can find all orphaned ports on FreeBSD (by using
 portupgrade or not) ?

 By orphaned ports I mean ports that are not used by any other ports
 (though they may be used by users, in which case it's up to me to
 decide wether to delete them).

 Thank you.

 Nicolas

sysutils/portmanager will do this just run

portmanager -slid

This option will show you each port that no other port depends on,
its long description and give you the option to remove it.

-Mike

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Re: samba ldap

2005-02-28 Thread Bob Hall
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:56:49AM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
 Disabled by default? Sorry, but I've never specified any
 ldap options in my smb.conf but the server always tries
 to authentificate the users with an ldap server.

With or without LDAP compiled in, Samba shouldn't be asking for LDAP
unless you specified it in smb.conf. Look in smb.conf and post the
passdb backend setting.

I played with LDAP for a while, so I have
;   passdb backend = ldapsam
The semicolon makes the line inactive. My installation uses tdbsam by
default.

HTH
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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-28 Thread Luke Kearney

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:23:38 -0500
Kevin A. Pieckiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:

 On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:05:17PM +, Wouter van Rooij wrote:
  I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to do a make buildworld.
  So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)
 
 Between 22 to 26 hours.  Pentium classic, 166MHz, 32 MB RAM.
 
 When I bumped up the RAM to 48, it cut that down to under a day because
 it didn't have to swap all the time.  I think it was somehwere between
 8 and 16 hours then.
 
 Oh, on my good system, it takes about 15 mins.
 Dual P4 3.2 GHz with HT enabled (four virtual procs)
 1 GB RAM
 
 And I haven't done a recent buildworld on my dual proc Alpha in a while.

With 5.3 release on a dual sparc 450 with 1Gb memory it takes about 3
hours give or take. I have a couple of dual PIII 1Ghz and they take
between 30 to 50 mins. On a PII 333Mhz about 5hrs. Learnt early on never
to try and do it on a tight schedule ;-)

HTH

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Re: Question about ipfw, natd and port forwarding.

2005-02-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Deling Ren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all, I am trying to setup a NAT box for my home network on freebsd 5.3.
 I am using ipfw and natd. I already got nat running but I am having
 problem with port forwarding. I am trying to forward port 80 on the nat
 box to an internal machine (192.168.0.7). I have the following as part of
 natd_flags:
 
 -redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.7:80 xx.xx.xx.xx:80
 
 where xx.xx.xx.xx is the external IP of the nat box.
 
 Using the following ipfw rules:
 
 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via sis0
 65535 allow ip from any to any
 
 I have no problem connecting port 80 on the nat box from outside. But as I
 added stateful ipfw rules, it stops working. Running nmap from outside
 says port 80 is filtered. I am not sure how to configure the rules to
 enable port forwarding. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
 
 Deling
 
 Here are my ipfw rules:
 
 5 allow ip from any to any via $iif
 00010 allow ip from any to any via lo0
 00014 divert 8668 ip from any to any in via $oif
 
 00015 check-state
 
 00060 skipto 800 tcp from any to any out via $oif setup keep-state
 00080 skipto 800 icmp from any to any out via $oif keep-state
 00130 skipto 800 udp from any to any out via $oif keep-state
 
 00340 allow icmp from any to me in via $oif keep-state
 
 00360 allow tcp from any to any dst-port 80 in via $oif setup keep-state
 00380 allow tcp from any to me dst-port 22 in via $oif setup limit
 src-addr 5
 
 00400 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any in via $oif
 00450 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any out via $oif
 
 00800 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via $oif
 00801 allow ip from any to any
 00999 deny log logamount 5 ip from any to any

Stateful rules are quite tricky in combination with address rewriting,
because the state being saved won't match the packet after it's passed
through the rewriting.  This rule set seems to handle that by
splitting the redirect rule into one for each direction, but I'd still
look in that direction for the trouble.  Try removing the log limits
and seeing what happens when an HTTP packet gets dropped.
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make world fails..how to troubleshoot?

2005-02-28 Thread J.D. Bronson
I am running:
FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001 FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001 #0: Sun Jan 30 
03:57:47 UTC 
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

and I cvs'd up using:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5
(I first deleted /usr/src and then ran cvsup)
Then following the normal way of building world, I went into
/usr/src and issued:
make buildworld
After about 5-7mins I see this:
building shared library libkrb5.so.7
building static krb5 library
ranlib libkrb5.a
sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444   libkrb5.a 
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib
sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libkrb5.so.7 
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib
sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444  heim_err.h 
k524_err.h 
/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/krb5-protos.h 
/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../include/krb5-types.h 
/usr/src/kerberos5/lib/libkrb5/../../../crypto/heimdal/lib/krb5/krb5.h 
krb5_err.h /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include
ln -fs libkrb5.so.7 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libkrb5.so
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
#

And then it stops. I did a full make world using the same gear Saturday and 
it worked fine...this is another new identical machine...but I cannot get 
world to build and this error means little to me..

Anyone shed some lite on this?
thanks!

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Re: Anyone running Trend Micro IWSS in linux-compat mode?

2005-02-28 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi

there's  a dan's guardian plugin that uses MailScanner's AV handling
to provide the anti-virus side of things.

Of course the solution is NOT to use IE as the default browser in windows ;-)

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:20:17 +0100, David Landgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello List,
 
 I'm running a squid proxy on FreeBSD. The big problem today is web-borne
 viruses, spyware and other crap. The general feeling on the Squid users
 mailing list is that Trend Micro's InterScan Web Security Suite product
 is the way to go.
 
 Having looked at the various incomplete, non-functional free offerings,
 I have no problem going with a commercial product. The trouble is, they
 only offer it on Windows, Linux and Solaris.
 
 So, is anyone running IWSS in Linux-compatibility mode? If so is there
 anything tricky to be aware of? I guess either way I'll try it out, and
 if the worst comes to the worst, I'll just have to reformat the beast
 and install Linux. But that would be a bummer.
 
 Thanks for any clues I can use,
 David
 
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Re: tap interface, bridging and freebsd 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli typed:
 Andrea Riela wrote:
 
 but I don't see a tap interface in /dev or with ifconfig ...
 
 You won't see any network interface in /dev; just run ifconfig -a and
 check: you won't find any of the listed devices in /dev.

That's right; they live in /dev/net/ :

 ifconfig -l
rl0 plip0 lo0 tun0 ppp0
 ls -l /dev/net
total 0
crw---  1 root  wheel  253,   3 Feb 12 07:23 lo0
crw---  1 root  wheel  253,   2 Feb 12 07:23 plip0
crw---  1 root  wheel  253,   5 Feb 12 07:23 ppp0
crw---  1 root  wheel  253,   1 Feb 12 07:23 rl0
crw---  1 root  wheel  253,   4 Feb 12 07:23 tun0

Ruben

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Re: samba ldap

2005-02-28 Thread Joerg Pulz
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Bob Hall wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:56:49AM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
Disabled by default? Sorry, but I've never specified any
ldap options in my smb.conf but the server always tries
to authentificate the users with an ldap server.
With or without LDAP compiled in, Samba shouldn't be asking for LDAP
unless you specified it in smb.conf. Look in smb.conf and post the
passdb backend setting.
I played with LDAP for a while, so I have
;   passdb backend = ldapsam
The semicolon makes the line inactive. My installation uses tdbsam by
default.
Hi,
this is completely true for net/samba3. but as he's using net/samba which 
is currently samba-2.2.12 this is wrong. in the samba-2.2.xx series the 
ldapsam backend is a compile time option, so you can either have tdbsam OR 
smbpasswd OR ldapsam. this behavior was changed when switching over to 
samba-3.x where one can specify a different passdb backend in the smb.conf 
file if it was built. this offers the possibility to build a passdb 
backend chain.

anyway, please make sure that the /etc/make.conf ! not smb.conf file 
contains NO WITH_LDAP=yes line and recompile net/samba WITHOUT specifying 
WITH_LDAP=yes on the command line.
the resulting smbd should not be linked against libldap or liblber.
if it is still linked against these two lib's there must be something 
wrong in the port.

regards
Joerg
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Re: Dell 5160 Wireless Ethernet

2005-02-28 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
hmm! are you sure it isn't just picking up a built-in firewire port, and not
picking up the micro-pci card at all?  
To be honest, I have no clue...  
I do have another 1u Server in a coloc that uses the fxp driver for the builtin ethernet card.

Is there any way to find out ? I can post my entire dmesg if that helps ?

John wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:57:09 -0500, Philip M. Golllucci wrote
 

Hi,
I've got a dell 5160 notebook with builtin wireless ethernet.
Windows XP home detects it as Dell Wireless WLAN 1350 Mini-PCI Card
Freebsd5.2.1-RELEASE detects it as
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
cbb0: [MPSAFE]
fwohci0: vendor=104c, dev=8029
fwohci0: 1394 Open Host Controller Interface mem 
0xfaff4000-0xfaff7fff,0xfaffb800-0xfaffbfff irq 16 at device 4.1 on pci2
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=0)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 37:4f:c0:00:3a:98:e4:c1
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 36:4f:c0:98:e4:c1
sbp0: SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop = 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)

unfortunately, I have 0 experience with firewire. 
I edited my  /etc/rc.conf file accordingly
ifconfig_fwe0=DHCP
   

hmm! are you sure it isn't just picking up a built-in firewire port, and not
picking up the micro-pci card at all?  

I have an intel-based laptop (samsung v70) with a wireless micropci card built
in which is detected as fxp0
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Re: complete rookie sendmail question

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Hawkins
On Feb 27, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Warren Block wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Ken Hawkins wrote:
alright I found an old blurb about handling a scenario similar to  
mine:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-July/ 
014468.html

it essentially says:
If you want to get FreeBSD to forward your email to the MS-Exchange
server, you have to:
   1. make sure sendmail is running. (ie remove sendmail_* lines from
  /etc/rc.conf)
Put sendmail_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.
   2. # cd /etc/mail
   3. # cp freebsd.mc `hostname`.mc
That's doing things the hard way and might miss things the Makefile  
will do for you.  Just:

# cd /etc/mail
# make
   4. edit `hostname`.mc and uncomment the following line:
   define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')
   5. replace `your.isp.mail.server' with your Exchange server.
Or any mail server you are allowed to smarthost through.
   6. # make
   7. # make install
   8. # sh /etc/rc.sendmail restart
Should be:
6. make all install restart
which combines steps 7 and 8.  6 was already done above.
can anyone point me toward what I require to create a domain file for  
our box name in the /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/ area?
Let /etc/mail/Makefile help you by using make as shown above.
did those steps:
1 cd /etc/mail
edited freebsd.mc and changed:
2 make
this generated:
cp freebsd.mc web1.prosoundweb.com.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 web1.prosoundweb.com.mc   
web1.prosoundweb.com.cf
m4: web1.prosoundweb.com.mc at line 49:  
include(/usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/prosoundweb.com.m4): No such file  
or directory
*** Error code 1

this is still looking for a prosoundweb.com.m4 file in the domain area.  
is there a step I am missing somewhere?

I copied generic.m4 to prosoundweb.com.m4 and went through 'make all  
install restart'
and I am still timing out talking to the host:

Operation timed out with bhost1.broadjam.net.
so obviously I am not done here
ken;
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newbie usb wireless

2005-02-28 Thread Pablo Allietti
hi all. i recently buy a usb wireless network card Cisco/Linksys. my
problem is when i plug the usb appears with dmesg

ugen0: Cisco-Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter, rev 2.00/0.04, addr
2


perfect no!!! ???

but how do i install the card? to work? and appears with ifconfig?
anybody help me?
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Re: how long does it takes you to do a make buildworld

2005-02-28 Thread Rob
Luke Kearney wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:23:38 -0500
 Kevin A. Pieckiel
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thus:
 
 
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:05:17PM +, Wouter van
Rooij wrote:

I'm very curious about how long it took you guys to
do a make buildworld.
So I thought let's start a topic about it.;-)

Between 22 to 26 hours.  Pentium classic, 166MHz, 32
MB RAM.

When I bumped up the RAM to 48, it cut that down to
under a day because
it didn't have to swap all the time.  I think it was
somehwere between
8 and 16 hours then.

Oh, on my good system, it takes about 15 mins.
Dual P4 3.2 GHz with HT enabled (four virtual procs)
1 GB RAM

And I haven't done a recent buildworld on my dual
proc Alpha in a while.
 
 
 With 5.3 release on a dual sparc 450 with 1Gb memory
it takes about 3
 hours give or take. I have a couple of dual PIII
1Ghz and they take
 between 30 to 50 mins. On a PII 333Mhz about 5hrs.
Learnt early on never
 to try and do it on a tight schedule ;-)



On 'regular' Intel PCs with enough RAM (little
swapping only), I use as a rule of thumb following
equation:

   time = 1e5 / (speed * nproc)

where
   time - in minutes
   speed - CPU speed in MHz
   nproc - number of processors

For the examples above:
  166MHz ~10 hrs.
  dual-3.2 GHz ~16 min.
  dual-1Ghz ~50 min.

And I have another 6 PCs here, ranging from 150 MHz
to dual GHz, for which this formula also works fine.

Although my formula was heavily critized on the
mailinglist, because there are too many factors that
determine the compilation time, it sort of seems to
work roughly on simple Intel based PC's.

Regards,
Rob.

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Re: Received mail timestamp is off by 7 hours

2005-02-28 Thread Ian Smith
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 03:36:41 -0800 Loren M. Lang wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:58:17AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
   On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 03:10:12 -0700 Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
 Alright, I got it all working now.  Not sure how to change the time
 zone with config files, so I just used sysinstall to change it to MST
 (time zone is arbitrary, but since this is the zone I live in, it's
 convenient for me).  Then I used ntpdate to sync it, and it's working
 well now.
 
 Thanks for pointing that out to me.  I just thought that CET was 
   central time :)
   
   Yes sysinstall's as good a way as any, it'll set your timezone and also
   let you choose between running with a UTC or local time CMOS clock.  Or
   you can manually tun tzsetup(8) and create (or not) /etc/wall_cmos_clock
   .. see adjkerntz(8) 
   
   Take little notice of people opining that you must or even should run
   CMOS UTC time; that's entirely up to you.  I've always preferred local
   time CMOS clocks personally; sysinstall creates /etc/wall_cmos_clock and
   cron runs 'adjkerntz -a' halfhourly at times when daylight savings time
   might come or go in your zone, and that's always worked fine here. 
  
  The reason using UTC for the cmos clock is that it never changes like US
  daylight savings does.  Now if your timezone doesn't ever need to be
  pushed forward or backwards then it won't be a problem, but otherwise
  evertime the system boots up, it has to determine if the cmos time is
  correct or needs to be adjusted.  A UTC time will always be correct and
  can be turned exactly into the correct time at the moment.  I think that
  if FreeBSD crashed just after it booted up and adjusted the hour forward,
  then on the next reboot, it would adjust it another hour forward.  In
  general, it is just harder to manage.  Even worse would be my Quad boot
  system with Gentoo Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD.  If I used local
  time for my cmos clock then every daylight savings change, each os would
  adjust the clock independently and I'd be 3 hours off.

I don't believe that's correct Loren, at least, not for FreeBSD anyway.

adjkerntz -i when run on entering multi-user mode does not set the CMOS
clock, it just reads from it to update the kernel clock if need be.

If /etc/wall_cmos_clock exists, it knows to add the timezone offset to
move the kernel clock to UTC; otherwise it takes CMOS clock time as UTC.

Only adjkerntz -a (run from cron) makes adjustments on daylight savings
time boundaries, and that's the only time it will update the CMOS clock. 

If running local time CMOS (/etc/wall_cmos_clock exists) then adjkerntz
-i continues running in background the whole time. Only on a (proper)
shutdown does init send a SIGTERM to adjkerntz, which then updates the
local CMOS clock (if necessary) from the then kernel clock. 

If the system crashes without proper shutdown (eg power + UPS failure)
then any changes made to the kernel clock during uptime aren't updated
back to the CMOS clock which is otherwise free-running, that's all.

At least, that's my reading of adjkerntz(8) and experience over 7 years.
I did read much of the relevant code back in 2000 on a 2.2.6 system, but
admittedly haven't checked since then to see if any of that's changed,
and since it's a full-time server, haven't had to consider multi-boot.

I also run local time on my 4.5-R laptop, _very_ rarely booting Windows,
and haven't struck any problems with CMOS time changes in three years. 

Disclaimer remains:

   The only thing to watch running wall_cmos_clock is that if you boot to
   single user mode, before /etc/rc has run 'adjkerntz -i' the system will
   assume CMOS is UTC, so any files then modified show timestamps in UTC
   (discovered the hard way in Jan 2000 on a box with a broken y2k BIOS :)

I should mention that Jean-Marc Zucconi gave me lots of good pointers in
2000 re fixing our system to handle that crook y2k BIOS.  He suggested C
patches, but I wimped out by adding some date commands to /etc/rc :)

Sorry if this is getting a bit long .. it really comes down to personal
choice; I sure wouldn't want to dissuade anyone from running Zulu CMOS!

Cheers, Ian

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Re: complete rookie sendmail question

2005-02-28 Thread Ken Hawkins
Apologies for the quick post. I found the domain file issue and i had  
changed the DOMAIN param in freebsd.mc from generic to prosoundweb.com.  
switching it back to generic obviously took care of that problem  
however after opening up the SMART_HOST:

define(`SMART_HOST', `bhost1.broadjam.net')
I am still timing out which leads me to believe it is a true issue of  
timing between the servers and NOT improper configuration on the box.  
If i understand everything now by uncommenting the SMART_HOST define  
and giving it our true mail server this should relay all mail generated  
and coming from and coming into the server to the actual mail server  
yes?

I also now only have sendmail_enabl=YES in rc.conf
am i way off base here?
ken;
On Feb 28, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Ken Hawkins wrote:
On Feb 27, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Warren Block wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Ken Hawkins wrote:
alright I found an old blurb about handling a scenario similar to  
mine:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-July/ 
014468.html

it essentially says:
If you want to get FreeBSD to forward your email to the MS-Exchange
server, you have to:
   1. make sure sendmail is running. (ie remove sendmail_* lines from
  /etc/rc.conf)
Put sendmail_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.
   2. # cd /etc/mail
   3. # cp freebsd.mc `hostname`.mc
That's doing things the hard way and might miss things the Makefile  
will do for you.  Just:

# cd /etc/mail
# make
   4. edit `hostname`.mc and uncomment the following line:
   define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')
   5. replace `your.isp.mail.server' with your Exchange server.
Or any mail server you are allowed to smarthost through.
   6. # make
   7. # make install
   8. # sh /etc/rc.sendmail restart
Should be:
6. make all install restart
which combines steps 7 and 8.  6 was already done above.
can anyone point me toward what I require to create a domain file  
for our box name in the /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/ area?
Let /etc/mail/Makefile help you by using make as shown above.
did those steps:
1 cd /etc/mail
edited freebsd.mc and changed:
2 make
this generated:
cp freebsd.mc web1.prosoundweb.com.mc
/usr/bin/m4 -D_CF_DIR_=/usr/share/sendmail/cf/
/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4 web1.prosoundweb.com.mc   
web1.prosoundweb.com.cf
m4: web1.prosoundweb.com.mc at line 49:  
include(/usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/prosoundweb.com.m4): No such  
file or directory
*** Error code 1

this is still looking for a prosoundweb.com.m4 file in the domain  
area. is there a step I am missing somewhere?

I copied generic.m4 to prosoundweb.com.m4 and went through 'make all  
install restart'
and I am still timing out talking to the host:

Operation timed out with bhost1.broadjam.net.
so obviously I am not done here
ken;
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remote dump via ssh

2005-02-28 Thread John
Hi folks

I want to level 0 dump a remote partition onto a large local disk. There's not
enough space on the remote machine to dump to a file then sftp over. It needs
to dump via ssh.

any ideas? lokking for an elegant one-line solution

thanks!
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php5-5.0.0.2 mod_php5-5.0.2,1

2005-02-28 Thread David Larkin
Hello,

I've just installed FreeBSD 5.3.

I did install using FTP from the main UK ftp server.

I'm trying to use PHP with Apache.

Am I right in thinking I need to install both php  mod_php ?

I can install either of the following OK from ports or packages.

php5-5.0.0.2
mod_php5-5.0.2,1

But, when I try to install the other one I get 'conflicts' message.

Do I need to install both ?

If so, where can I find non conflicting versions ?

Thanks
David

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portsdb -Uu - Stop.

2005-02-28 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi,

today I cvsup-ed one of my 5.3 systems by using the same procedure as
many times before:

cvsup -g -L 2 ./ports-supfile
pkgdb -F
portsdb -Uu

The first two steps (cvsup, pkgdb) went OK without error, but during
portsdb -Uu I get an error as follows:


# portsdb -Uu
Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..apsfilter-7.2.6
: /usr/ports/print/acroread5 non-existent -- dependency list incomplete
=== print/apsfilter failed
*** Error code 1
1 error


Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported
version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you
have a complete and up-to-date ports collection.  (INDEX builds are
not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in
particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the ports-all
collection, and have no refuse files.)  If that is the case, then
report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant
details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version,
your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf
settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings).

Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched
automatically with make fetchindex.


*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports.
failed to generate INDEX!
portsdb: index generation error





What can I do against this error?


Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald

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Re: remote dump via ssh

2005-02-28 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 03:41:51PM +, John typed:
 Hi folks
 
 I want to level 0 dump a remote partition onto a large local disk. There's not
 enough space on the remote machine to dump to a file then sftp over. It needs
 to dump via ssh.
 
 any ideas? lokking for an elegant one-line solution
 
dump 0aLf - /partition | ssh otherhost dd of=/parh/to/dumpfile

Ruben

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OpenAFS server for FreeBSD ?

2005-02-28 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Hi all,
i just wanted to know if there is an OpenAFS server available for 
FreeBSD. I found only a client in the ports and also nothing about it in 
the ml archive

Regards,
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Re: Share connection with PF

2005-02-28 Thread Bachelier Vincent
Ok, I have found THE solution :d
Yes, we can share connection with only one card !

The method:

Setup a card for the public address,
set an alias = 192.168.0.1 for example

set gateway_enable=YES in rc.conf
reload routing

ok, now here my PF file:
ext_if=rl0
int_ip=192.168.0.0/24
ext_ip=82.66.171.150

no nat on $ext_if from $int_ip to $int_ip
nat on $ext_if from $int_ip to any - $ext_ip

pass in all
pass out all

This Work !

We don't nat from local network to local network
and we nat all other !

Then all work fine

Of course this can be only use with a computer with one card, a switch and the 
connection on the switch

It's better with 2 cards, but possible with one !

See ya

Le Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 07:58:22PM +0100, Bachelier Vincent a écrit:
 From: Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:58:22 +0100
 Subject: Share connection with PF
 
 Ok, I have FreeBSD 5.3 with PF.
 How to share connection from a routeur with only one network card ?
 
 My network is like that:
 
 Internet connection in DHCP, Routing computer, Workstation computer on
 a switch
 
 The router take connection by DHCP and share it to my Workstation
 The workstation use my router to navigate
 
 Routeur:
   RL0: DHCP, alias 192.168.0.1
 Workstation:
   RL0: 192.168.0.2
   Gateways: 192.168.0.1
 
 Ok, how to do ?
 
 Thx a lot for support
 
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 Language: Francais / English
 Societ(e/y) : Solintech - http://www.solintech.fr
 Blog: http://dieghostfbsd.blogspot.com
 
 Sourceforge
  Project : 
   Ripperwww: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/ripperwww
 
 Citation (fortune):
 
 I haven't lost my mind; I know exactly where I left it.

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Citation (fortune):

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were blasting away at a clump of trees near a stone wall.  Suddenly a
red-faced country squire popped his head over the wall and shouted,
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Did I?  cried the hunter, aghast.  Terribly sorry.  Have a
shot at mine, over there.
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Firefox and Macromedia Flash Plugin...

2005-02-28 Thread Eric Schuele
Hello,
Not sure if this is the best place to post this... If not please let me 
know.

I would like to have flash capabilities in my Firefox 1.0 installation. 
 I do not have Linux compat turned on and would prefer to keep it off 
if possible.  No real reason for having it off... other than to see if I 
can run without it and still do everything I need.

I have searched the archives and googled a good bit.  Everyone seems to 
rely on the Linux plugin wrapper.  Is there a 'no Linux compatibility 
alternative that works well with Firefox?

Thanks,
--
Regards,
Eric
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Re: tap interface, bridging and freebsd 5.3

2005-02-28 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Ruben de Groot wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0100, Andrea Venturoli typed:
Andrea Riela wrote:

but I don't see a tap interface in /dev or with ifconfig ...
You won't see any network interface in /dev; just run ifconfig -a and
check: you won't find any of the listed devices in /dev.

That's right; they live in /dev/net/ :
Nice to know :)
Is this new to 5.x?
I don't see them in a 4.11 system...
 bye  Thanks
av.
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Re: remote dump via ssh

2005-02-28 Thread John
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:41:51 +, John wrote
 Hi folks
 
 I want to level 0 dump a remote partition onto a large local disk. 
 There's not enough space on the remote machine to dump to a file 
 then sftp over. It needs to dump via ssh.
 
 any ideas? lokking for an elegant one-line solution
 
 thanks!

In the time-honoured tradition of replying to onself after RTFM I do it like 
this:

bash-2.05b# /sbin/dump -0uan -f - /usr/local | gzip -2 | ssh -c blowfish \ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dd \
of=/backup/dumps/level0/28022005/dump-usr.local.l0.gz  

/backup is an nfs-mounted external HD

I wonder if it would pipe to gpg -c rather than gzip.

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Re: portsdb -Uu - Stop.

2005-02-28 Thread Alexey Karguine
Ewald Jenisch wrote:
Hi,
today I cvsup-ed one of my 5.3 systems by using the same procedure as
many times before:
cvsup -g -L 2 ./ports-supfile
pkgdb -F
portsdb -Uu
The first two steps (cvsup, pkgdb) went OK without error, but during
portsdb -Uu I get an error as follows:
# portsdb -Uu
Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..apsfilter-7.2.6
: /usr/ports/print/acroread5 non-existent -- dependency list incomplete
=== print/apsfilter failed
*** Error code 1
1 error

Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported
version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you
have a complete and up-to-date ports collection.  (INDEX builds are
not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in
particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the ports-all
collection, and have no refuse files.)  If that is the case, then
report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant
details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version,
your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf
settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings).
Note: the latest pre-generated version of INDEX may be fetched
automatically with make fetchindex.

*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports.
failed to generate INDEX!
portsdb: index generation error


What can I do against this error?
Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald
You may do:
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
to fetch index-file. You not must generate this file yourself and 
wasting your time and CPU-resourses.

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FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread O. Hartmann
I did a cvsupdate several minutes before and tried to build world.
A buildworld stops as shown below in building libkvm.
Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for
itself. Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes.
I have no more informations due to remote control of the system.
Oliver
=== lib/libkvm
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a-DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c: In function `kvm_proclist':
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:269: warning: assignment makes integer 
from pointer without a cast
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:341: error: structure has no member named 
`p_runtime'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libkvm.
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What am I doing wrong with MOUNT?

2005-02-28 Thread Gerald Lightsey
Posted last night to newbies -(my mistake)

I'm brand new to FreeBSD and Unix world in general.  My son has an internet
site supported by FreeBSD that uses MySQL.  I have set up a FreeBSD  version
5.3 system on my home network using an 80gb drive sliced and partitioned to
the FreeBSD 5.3 defaults.  I installed MySQL version 3.23 from the ports
because that is the version on my son's server.  I wanted to install a copy
of his database that I had MySQL dump on his FreeBSD server and FTP'd it to
my Windows PC and placed on a CD.  After directing the .SQL dump back to a
like named database on my newly installed box I originally received a
message that I was out of disk space.

I find that MySql is working in /var/db/mysql and that the default
installation slice/partition of FreeBSD must be too small to handle the
databases I want to play with.  So I read up on the file system and thought
I understood that one can graft another drive onto a mount point on the
system to add space at the mount point.  I purchased a 120gb drive for under
$50 after rebates and partitioned it into one FreeBSD partition, (not
dangerously dedicated).  I expected, from what I read, that if I mounted it
at the /var mount point everything in the original /var directory would
become unreachable/invisible.  I tried it and I got the results I expected.
The reason I thought I would replace the ENTIRE /var directory was because
if /var is too small for MySQL it would probably quickly be exposed to be
too small for something else unexpected.  

I mounted the new drive 1 to a temporary mount point and used the cp command
to copy each directory in /var to the drive.  I looked in all the new/old
directories at the temporary mount point using ls -F and everything appeared
to be there at the file level.  I used the umount command to unmount the new
drive/partition from the temporary mount point and remounted it at /var.  I
opened MySQL and created the named database I wanted and again started to
collect the data from the CD by directing the .SQL file data to my database.
Again, just like it did originally, after several minutes of creating tables
the system reported that it had run out of space.

My surprise is that every indication I get after I regain control of the
system is that the database tables are being built within the ORIGINAL /var
directory structure rather than the 120gb drive mounted on the /var
mountpoint.  If I use the df command while drive 1 is mounted it shows that
/var on disk 0 is full and /var on disk 1 just has whatever I copied onto
the drive when it was mounted to a temporary mount point.  Also by
experimentation/confirmation  I find that simply creating a couple of new
databases within MySQL while drive 1 is mounted on /var shows that the
databases have been created on the original /var on disk 0 as directories
after disk 1 is unmounted. 

What am I doing wrong or what don't I understand about a drive being mounted
on /var where data is being written underneath it to the original
/var/db/mysql/mydatabasename on disk 0 rather than onto the mounted disk 1?

Thanks,

Gerald


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Re: How can I cut and paste from xterm _into_ another program ?

2005-02-28 Thread Alejandro Pulver
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:16:09 -0800 (PST)
Joe Schmoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am using a very vanilla XFree86 installation on fbsd
 5.3.  I am using ratpoison as my window manager.
 
 If I highlight text in an xterm, it is immediately in
 my buffer, and I can paste it into that xterm, or any
 other xterm.  Further, if I copy text in my web
 browser, I can paste it into all my xterms.
 
 However, I cannot take text that I copied in my xterm
 and paste it into my browser (opera).  Why is this ?
 
 Why can I go in one direction (paste from opera into
 xterm) but not the other (paste from xterm into opera)
 ?
 
 thanks.
 

There are two different clipboards (buffers):

One is used when you copy with the context menu (Right Click - Copy) or
(usually) with Ctrl-C. This usually happenes in KDE/GNOME/GTK (etc.)
applications. The way to paste this buffer is with the context menu
(Right Click - Paste) or (usually) with Ctrl-V.

The other is used when you just select text (like in console, or xterm).
To paste it press the middle mouse button. If you have only two, press
both at the same time.

Try using the middle mouse button (or both if only two). That worked for
me.

Hope that helps.

Best Regards,
Ale
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Re: Firefox and Macromedia Flash Plugin...

2005-02-28 Thread Eric Schuele
Pietro Cerutti wrote:
I'm sorry, at the moment there's no plugin for flash on this platform...
Some time ago a signed a petition addressed to the guys at macromedia,
telling them to do that, but nothing happened till now...
Ok... Thanks.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:09:45 -0600, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Not sure if this is the best place to post this... If not please let me
know.
I would like to have flash capabilities in my Firefox 1.0 installation.
 I do not have Linux compat turned on and would prefer to keep it off
if possible.  No real reason for having it off... other than to see if I
can run without it and still do everything I need.
I have searched the archives and googled a good bit.  Everyone seems to
rely on the Linux plugin wrapper.  Is there a 'no Linux compatibility
alternative that works well with Firefox?
Thanks,
--
Regards,
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:

 I did a cvsupdate several minutes before and tried to build world.  A
 buildworld stops as shown below in building libkvm. 

This is believed to now be fixed with an updated kvm_proc.c.  If not,
please let me know.

 Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for itself.
 Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes. 
 
 I have no more informations due to remote control of the system. 

Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability began?
In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96 hours?

Robert N M Watson



 
 Oliver
 
 === lib/libkvm
 rm -f .depend
 mkdep -f .depend -a-DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c
 cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c: In function `kvm_proclist':
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:269: warning: assignment makes integer 
 from pointer without a cast
 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:341: error: structure has no member named 
 `p_runtime'
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libkvm.
 
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread O. Hartmann

Robert Watson wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:

I did a cvsupdate several minutes before and tried to build world.  A
buildworld stops as shown below in building libkvm. 

This is believed to now be fixed with an updated kvm_proc.c.  If not,
please let me know.
I did just within these minutes a cvsupdate and I can see kvm_proc.c has 
been updated.


Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for itself.
Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes. 

I have no more informations due to remote control of the system. 

Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability began?
In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96 hours?
Friday last week I did the last update. Then the machine was shut-down. 
Today morning we started again, and since then (I built a kernel after 
an 11 am cvsupdate and build kernel), the machine is freezing after I 
tried to build world.
Maybe this is due to kernel and userland are out of sync? I try building
a world now again, hope this clears up things ...

Thanks,
Oliver
Robert N M Watson


Oliver
=== lib/libkvm
rm -f .depend
mkdep -f .depend -a-DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_i386.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_file.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getloadavg.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_getswapinfo.c
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -DLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libkvm  -c 
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c: In function `kvm_proclist':
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:269: warning: assignment makes integer 
from pointer without a cast
/usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c:341: error: structure has no member named 
`p_runtime'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libkvm.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:

 Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for itself.
 Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes. 
 
 I have no more informations due to remote control of the system. 
  
  Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability began?
  In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96 hours?
 
 Friday last week I did the last update. Then the machine was shut-down. 
 Today morning we started again, and since then (I built a kernel after
 an 11 am cvsupdate and build kernel), the machine is freezing after I
 tried to build world.  Maybe this is due to kernel and userland are out
 of sync? I try building a world now again, hope this clears up things
 ... 

Ideally, world and kernel being out of sync shouldn't cause instability of
this sort.  Typically, it might result in tools such as ps, top, or maybe
ipfw not working as desired, but not hangs.  If you could confirm the last
date you had a kernel that didn't have instability problems, we can try
and track down what change it is between then and now that caused the
problem to arise. 

Robert N M Watson

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Re: What am I doing wrong with MOUNT?

2005-02-28 Thread Daniel Bye
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:15:23AM -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:
 Posted last night to newbies -(my mistake)
 
 I'm brand new to FreeBSD and Unix world in general.  My son has an internet
 site supported by FreeBSD that uses MySQL.  I have set up a FreeBSD  version
 5.3 system on my home network using an 80gb drive sliced and partitioned to
 the FreeBSD 5.3 defaults.  I installed MySQL version 3.23 from the ports
 because that is the version on my son's server.  I wanted to install a copy
 of his database that I had MySQL dump on his FreeBSD server and FTP'd it to
 my Windows PC and placed on a CD.  After directing the .SQL dump back to a
 like named database on my newly installed box I originally received a
 message that I was out of disk space.
 
 I find that MySql is working in /var/db/mysql and that the default
 installation slice/partition of FreeBSD must be too small to handle the
 databases I want to play with.  So I read up on the file system and thought
 I understood that one can graft another drive onto a mount point on the
 system to add space at the mount point.  I purchased a 120gb drive for under
 $50 after rebates and partitioned it into one FreeBSD partition, (not
 dangerously dedicated).  I expected, from what I read, that if I mounted it
 at the /var mount point everything in the original /var directory would
 become unreachable/invisible.  I tried it and I got the results I expected.
 The reason I thought I would replace the ENTIRE /var directory was because
 if /var is too small for MySQL it would probably quickly be exposed to be
 too small for something else unexpected.  
 
 I mounted the new drive 1 to a temporary mount point and used the cp command
 to copy each directory in /var to the drive.  I looked in all the new/old
 directories at the temporary mount point using ls -F and everything appeared
 to be there at the file level.  I used the umount command to unmount the new
 drive/partition from the temporary mount point and remounted it at /var.  I
 opened MySQL and created the named database I wanted and again started to
 collect the data from the CD by directing the .SQL file data to my database.
 Again, just like it did originally, after several minutes of creating tables
 the system reported that it had run out of space.
 
 My surprise is that every indication I get after I regain control of the
 system is that the database tables are being built within the ORIGINAL /var
 directory structure rather than the 120gb drive mounted on the /var
 mountpoint.  If I use the df command while drive 1 is mounted it shows that
 /var on disk 0 is full and /var on disk 1 just has whatever I copied onto
 the drive when it was mounted to a temporary mount point.  Also by
 experimentation/confirmation  I find that simply creating a couple of new
 databases within MySQL while drive 1 is mounted on /var shows that the
 databases have been created on the original /var on disk 0 as directories
 after disk 1 is unmounted. 
 
 What am I doing wrong or what don't I understand about a drive being mounted
 on /var where data is being written underneath it to the original
 /var/db/mysql/mydatabasename on disk 0 rather than onto the mounted disk 1?

Just a thought - each time you mounted the new disk at /var, the system
was already running in multi-user mode.  That means that all network
daemons etc have been started and are running /before/ you mount the
disk.  MySQL will continue to use the /original/ /var because it has open
filehandles on that fs.

Try stopping MySQL before mounting the new disk.  Start MySQL again, and
it should start up on the new fs.

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Re: portsdb -Uu - Stop.

2005-02-28 Thread Ewald Jenisch

 On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 07:54:05PM +0300, Alexey Karguine wrote:
 
 You may do:
 
 cd /usr/ports
 make fetchindex
 
 to fetch index-file. You not must generate this file yourself and 
 wasting your time and CPU-resourses.

Hi Alexey,

Thanks for the hint - it did the trick. 

However I still wonder why portsdb -Uu suddenly dies with this error
after running for months without any problem...

-ewald

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Re: How can I cut and paste from xterm _into_ another program ? (NOTE - I am not an IDIOT)

2005-02-28 Thread Joe Schmoe

Hmmm...so instead of actually reading my post, several
folks have responded ... presumably just looking at
the words cut and paste in my post and responding
with a tutorial on how to use my mouse buttons. 
Thanks.

So I'll start all over.

I am running X on fbsd 5.3, with ratpoison as my
window manager.  I only run two apps - xterms (1 or 2
or 3 of them) and opera (my web browser).

I can cut text in my xterms by simply highlighting it,
and I can paste that text back into that xterm, or a
different xterm by clicking my right mouse button.  So
yes, I know how to cut and paste thank you very much.

I can also cut and paste in opera by selecting text
and choosing edit-copy from the menu - I can then
paste that text back into opera with edit-paste, or
shift+insert, and FURTHER, I can paste that text into
any of my xterms, with shift+insert OR with my right
mouse button.

THE PROBLEM IS, if I cut text in an xterm, I cannot
paste it in opera.  That is the only problem.

So to recap, I know how to cut and paste - thanks.  No
need for the mouse button tutorials.  All I want to
know is, why can I not properly cut and paste from
xterm TO opera, when I can already do it successfully
gtom opera TO xterm ?

Thanks.  Hopefully anyone responding will actually
read the post this time.

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Re: Firefox and Macromedia Flash Plugin...

2005-02-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:09:45AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
 I have searched the archives and googled a good bit.  Everyone seems to 
 rely on the Linux plugin wrapper.  Is there a 'no Linux compatibility 
 alternative that works well with Firefox?

There is a port called flashplugin-firefox, using libflash. I tried it
but is was prone to crashing on amd64, on 5.3-RELEASE-p4.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Monday 28 February 2005 11:06 am, Robert Watson wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:
  I did a cvsupdate several minutes before and tried to build world. 
  A buildworld stops as shown below in building libkvm.

 This is believed to now be fixed with an updated kvm_proc.c.  If not,
 please let me know.

  Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for
  itself. Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes.
 
  I have no more informations due to remote control of the system.

 Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability
 began? In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96
 hours?

 Robert N M Watson


Robert,

If it helps you narrow things down, I did my last cvsup-src just before 
11:22AM yesterday, 02/27/05. Everything was smooth sailing. My system 
appears stable.
  25211 Feb  5 07:48 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c

I use it mainly as a desktop, so it might not be real indicative how 
stable it is as a server.

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CVS-* lists

2005-02-28 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Hi,
I maintain ~5 ports.
Unlike most other commit mailing lists, in my opinion,
we don't get the diffs in the e-mails. I was wondering if there was any way
to get this for cvs-all since the maintainers have configured it off ?
Obviously, I can use cvsweb/viewcvs but its not nearly as convient for 
glances.

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RE: How can I cut and paste from xterm _into_ another program ?(NOTE - I am not an IDIOT)

2005-02-28 Thread Hauan David A
 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Schmoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 THE PROBLEM IS, if I cut text in an xterm, I cannot
 paste it in opera.  That is the only problem.
 
 So to recap, I know how to cut and paste - thanks.  No
 need for the mouse button tutorials.  All I want to
 know is, why can I not properly cut and paste from
 xterm TO opera, when I can already do it successfully
 gtom opera TO xterm ?
 
 Thanks.  Hopefully anyone responding will actually
 read the post this time.

Your question was answered.
Do you have a three button mouse or two
With mouse wheel? Or a two button mouse
With three button emulation?

Any way, highlight text with left button 
Depressed, cut text with right button, paste
With middle button (wheel) or with two button and
Three button emulation click both buttons
At the same time.

dave
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2005-02-28 Thread Google Crawl Coverage
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread O. Hartmann
Sorry, my build world froze this minute, I have no contact to the 
machine and the scientist, which helped remotely, ist at home, should
go for tomorrow ... :-(

Robert Watson wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:

Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for itself.
Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes. 

I have no more informations due to remote control of the system. 
Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability began?
In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96 hours?
Friday last week I did the last update. Then the machine was shut-down. 
Today morning we started again, and since then (I built a kernel after
an 11 am cvsupdate and build kernel), the machine is freezing after I
tried to build world.  Maybe this is due to kernel and userland are out
of sync? I try building a world now again, hope this clears up things
... 

Ideally, world and kernel being out of sync shouldn't cause instability of
this sort.  Typically, it might result in tools such as ps, top, or maybe
ipfw not working as desired, but not hangs.  If you could confirm the last
date you had a kernel that didn't have instability problems, we can try
and track down what change it is between then and now that caused the
problem to arise. 

Robert N M Watson
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Re: What am I doing wrong with MOUNT?

2005-02-28 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:15:23AM -0800, Gerald Lightsey wrote:
snip
 My surprise is that every indication I get after I regain control of the
 system is that the database tables are being built within the ORIGINAL /var
 directory structure rather than the 120gb drive mounted on the /var
 mountpoint.  If I use the df command while drive 1 is mounted it shows that
 /var on disk 0 is full and /var on disk 1 just has whatever I copied onto
 the drive when it was mounted to a temporary mount point.  Also by
 experimentation/confirmation  I find that simply creating a couple of new
 databases within MySQL while drive 1 is mounted on /var shows that the
 databases have been created on the original /var on disk 0 as directories
 after disk 1 is unmounted. 
 
 What am I doing wrong or what don't I understand about a drive being mounted
 on /var where data is being written underneath it to the original
 /var/db/mysql/mydatabasename on disk 0 rather than onto the mounted disk 1?

What are the outputs of the commands ``mount'' and ``df -h''?  Are you
sure that you are first unmounting the partition on disk 0 that is
mounted at /var before you mount the new disk (1) at /var?  Did you
reboot at any point?  Keep in mind that you will need to alter the file
/etc/fstab to let the system know that it now needs to be mounting the
single slice from the new disk at /var.

Here is quick rundown on how you could achieve your goal:

1) Mount the new disk at at /mnt with something like:
# mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt
2) Copy everything from your original /var partition to the new one:
# cd /var  tar cf - ./ | (cd /mnt  tar xvpf -)
3) Edit /etc/fstab from something like:
/dev/ad0s1e /varufs defaults
1 2
to:
/dev/ad1s1a /varufs defaults
1 2
4) Unmount old partition from /var and mount new one at /var:
# umount /var  mount /var

There may be an error or two in this, but it should serve to give the
general idea.  Also, you may want to reallocate the partition formerly
mounted at /var for something else?

Nathan


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Re: FreeBSD 5.4-PRERELEASE as cvsupdated today won't build, OS crashes

2005-02-28 Thread O. Hartmann
Well,
maybe it is an issue having a DELL Optiplex with a flat screen and 
keyboard and mouse plugged in the USB hub in TFT? Sometimes I watch 
mysterious log messages that some hub has been detached after a while.

This is the last run I can do for now, hope plugging back mouse and 
keyboard to the onboard plugins will help - if not, there is another
issue ...

Oliver
Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 11:06 am, Robert Watson wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, O. Hartmann wrote:
I did a cvsupdate several minutes before and tried to build world. 
A buildworld stops as shown below in building libkvm.
This is believed to now be fixed with an updated kvm_proc.c.  If not,
please let me know.

Also, the system is really instable after I build the kernel for
itself. Under heavy load, the machine get stuck and freezes.
I have no more informations due to remote control of the system.
Do you have approximate before/after dates for when the instability
began? In particular, was it with an update in the last 48 or 96
hours?
Robert N M Watson

Robert,
If it helps you narrow things down, I did my last cvsup-src just before 
11:22AM yesterday, 02/27/05. Everything was smooth sailing. My system 
appears stable.
  25211 Feb  5 07:48 /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc.c

I use it mainly as a desktop, so it might not be real indicative how 
stable it is as a server.

Don
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Re: ip addr changes on 5.3 but not on 4.8

2005-02-28 Thread wo_shi_big_stomach
 
 you might try paging through dmesg | more to see
 if
 the system recognizes your interface on bootup.
 
 %dmesg | more | grep dc0
 
 dc0: 82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX port 0x6800-0x68ff
 mem 
 0xe900-0xe9ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0
 miibus0: MII bus on dc0
 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf
 dc0: if_start running deferred for Giant
 dc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port
 0x64,0x60 on isa0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller at port
 0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
 fdc0: [FAST]
 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state
 ..
 .. 332 identical lines deleted
 ..
 dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state
 
 
 Any problems here?

You *may* have a mismatch in autonegotiation or manual
speed/duplex parameters between dc0 and whatever it's
plugged into. Make sure both sides are set to
autonegotiate or, if they're set manually, that both
use the same speed and duplex parameters.

Personal preference, but I disable autonegotiation
wherever I can. I have had more connectivity problems
with autoneg than virtually any other networking
issue.

/wsbs

 
 Thanks for explaining the reason for the different
 device names. I'm 
 thinking the 4.8 nic may be an isa 3com 10mbps,
 while am quite sure the 5.3 
 nic is a pci netgear 100mbps.
 
 
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Re: portsdb -Uu - Stop.

2005-02-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Ewald Jenisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 today I cvsup-ed one of my 5.3 systems by using the same procedure as
 many times before:
 
 cvsup -g -L 2 ./ports-supfile
 pkgdb -F
 portsdb -Uu
 
 The first two steps (cvsup, pkgdb) went OK without error, but during
 portsdb -Uu I get an error as follows:
 
 
 # portsdb -Uu
 Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please 
 wait..apsfilter-7.2.6
 : /usr/ports/print/acroread5 non-existent -- dependency list incomplete
 === print/apsfilter failed
 *** Error code 1
 1 error

The current version of the apsfilter port should be looking at
/usr/ports/print/acroread instead of .../acroread5.

 
 Before reporting this error, verify that you are running a supported
 version of FreeBSD (see http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/) and that you
 have a complete and up-to-date ports collection.  (INDEX builds are
 not supported with partial or out-of-date ports collections -- in
 particular, if you are using cvsup, you must cvsup the ports-all
 collection, and have no refuse files.)  If that is the case, then
 report the failure to [EMAIL PROTECTED] together with relevant
 details of your ports configuration (including FreeBSD version,
 your architecture, your environment, and your /etc/make.conf
 settings, especially compiler flags and WITH/WITHOUT settings).

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Re: Upgrading perl 5.8

2005-02-28 Thread Erik Norgaard
Stefan Cars wrote:
Hi!
I'm upgrading perl 5.8 from the ports on a FreeBSD 5.3 machine, the 
problem is that alot of my installed modules doesn't work after the 
update (just a minor update from 5.8.2 to 5.8.6), probably becuase the 
@INC changed and did not include the mach directory of 5.8.2. Is this 
right ? Why can't it include the 5.8.2 mach dir ?
Please read /usr/ports/UPDATING
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Re: only 1 card is active, why

2005-02-28 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:34:02PM +0800, gr wrote:
 I use freebsd-5.3release as a gateway. I have 2 realtek 8139 card, one
 for Internet and the other for LAN. But when I execute ifconfig, only
 1 card(rl0) is shown active, and the other(rl1) is shown no carrier.
 And when I exchange the wire, rl0 changes to no carrier, and rl1
 changes to active. It seems that only 1 card can be in use. What
 can I do? Thanks.

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Re: OpenAFS server for FreeBSD ?

2005-02-28 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Montag, 28. Februar 2005 16:54 schrieb Heinrich Rebehn:
 Hi all,

 i just wanted to know if there is an OpenAFS server available for
 FreeBSD. I found only a client in the ports and also nothing about it in
 the ml archive

There is a special freebsd-afs Mailing list (
http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2005/freebsd-afs/)
which isn't too heavily frequented ;)

I remember several statements that openafs should compile and run on FreeBSD 
(the server part at least, for the client one should go with arla, but I 
think I can also remember positive results from one (the) porter at the ML).
Since I'm not able to fix things I decided to drop AFS because if I decide to 
use it it's elementary to know it is supported.

Best regards,

-Harry

 Regards,

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Re: php5-5.0.0.2 mod_php5-5.0.2,1 - should be php5-5.0.2 mod_php5-5.0.2,1

2005-02-28 Thread David Larkin
Sorry,

I got those version numbers wrong, let me try again

what I'm getting is ...

# make install
===  Installing for php5-5.0.2

===  php5-5.0.2 conflicts with installed package(s):
  mod_php5-5.0.2,1

  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1


I can install either

php5-5.0.2
or
mod_php5-5.0.2,1

but not both.

I've never installed PHP before.

Do I need to install both ??

Thanks
David







 Hello,

 I've just installed FreeBSD 5.3.

 I did install using FTP from the main UK ftp server.

 I'm trying to use PHP with Apache.

 Am I right in thinking I need to install both php  mod_php ?

 I can install either of the following OK from ports or packages.

 php5-5.0.0.2
 mod_php5-5.0.2,1

 But, when I try to install the other one I get 'conflicts' message.

 Do I need to install both ?

 If so, where can I find non conflicting versions ?

 Thanks
 David

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Re: Installation instructions for Firefox somewhere?

2005-02-28 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:

 One of the several techs that work for that company has your
 attitude.  He's been burned a few times when he's installed patches
 that broke existing software at a customer.

 However, the customers that he cares for have the highest percentage
 of broken-into servers.  (by outside crackers)

I don't know that one can assume cause and effect here.

Many updates are not security-related.  Of the security-related updates,
not all are relevant in a given environment.  And since most security
updates move in the direction of greater restrictions on what programs
can do, they are especially likely to break existing applications.

 From our point of view over at the ISP it seems to us that the pain
 of dealing with an app that breaks as a result of a security update
 is less than dealing with the pain of cleaning up a server that is
 broken into.  And we have also observed that no matter how long the
 techs there work on a Windows server that has been broken into, once
 it's broken into it seems to get regularly re-broken into in the future,
 unless they nuke and repave it.

The solution here is to stop using Windows, if possible.  Windows
systems are extremely complex and cannot easily be stripped to
eliminate unnecessary vulnerabilities.  You can close the holes you know
about, but you don't know what other holes exist until Microsoft or
someone else tells you about them, or until you're broken into.  And you
may be obligated to patch holes in software that is completely useless
to you, simply because there is no way to turn that software off.

Windows is a good solution for IT departments that have virtually no
qualified people on staff.  They can just plug in the servers and run
them, and they can just apply every update that comes out.  They'll
spend more on hardware and licensing than they would with an open-source
solution like FreeBSD, and they'll never have a firm handle on exactly
what their servers are doing internally, but at least it lowers personal
costs and allows a company to get some sort of server capability in
house without searching for expensive IT talent.  Used as directed, and
with regular updates, Windows is moderately safe.

 I guess your attitude is safe enough if you regularly backup and you
 don't have critical data like credit cards or patient data or
 whatever that you don't want to have spread around.

Yes.  Confidential data like credit cards or medical records requires
some fairly extraordinary precautions, anyway, ideally involving
physical barriers to compromise (by distributing functions over
different servers, etc.).  Unfortunately a lot of small companies (and
some large ones--cf. ChoicePoint) are exceedingly careless about how
they handle this type of data, and with the prevalence of credit-card
commerce, there's a lot of exposed information out there.

 Frankly I find this rather silly.  The OS does very little that helps
 a cracker.  About the only thing that bugs in the OS will allow a cracker
 to do is DoS a TCP/IP stack.

 The difficulty is in the application programs, such as nfs, samba,
 http, telnetd, sshd, smtp, dns, etc. which all of in the past had
 security holes discovered and closed - sometimes repeatedly.  The
 same goes for Microsoft's products.

Agreed, but it reduces to the same thing, since each OS tends to bring
with it a set of applications.  You may have problems with telnetd on
UNIX, but not on Windows, since Windows doesn't generally run telnetd.
You won't have problems with IIS on UNIX.

 Just because an app like IIS is bundled with Windows Server, and an
 app like telnetd is bundled with UNIX, does not mean that when those
 apps got cracked, that the OS was the problem.

The whole environment was the problem.

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