Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread perryh
Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote:

 Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost
 everyone else seems to be using for presentations?

Just about any app, including PPT, can print to PDF if Acrobat
is installed.  Without Acrobat, print-to-file specifying a
PostScript printer (e.g. an Apple LaserWriter) will produce a
PostScript file, which you can make into a PDF using ps2pdf.
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Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown

2010-06-07 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
Hi!

I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's
based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of
this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's
diminutive stature is quite cute.

The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming
propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131
ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as
displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it
will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface
is going UP and DOWN, then continue.

What sort of information would be the most helpful to collect to assist
in tracking down the cause of this behaviour? If there is a better
mailing list with which to consult, that too would be helpful.

Thank you.

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Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 07:57:51 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:19:08 +0300
 Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr articulated:
 You can always install bash with pkg_add.  The default package is
 not built as a static binary, but you can compile a static bash
 binary from its port:

 # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash
 # make WITH_STATIC_BASH=1 install clean

 I thought that was what this port was for:

 Port:   bash-static-4.1.5_2
 Path:   /usr/ports/shells/bash-static
 Info:   The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell

Yes, that's what bash-static enables.

I only mentioned WITH_STATIC_BASH because it's what I usually prefer to
avoid gettext/libintl.so troubles when portupgrade is still half-done
and I want to open a new screen window or xterm.

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Re: hal-0.5.14_7 to _8 upgrade problem

2010-06-07 Thread n dhert
Hi,
OK, the next day the TAB was OK again after the recompile of kdebase (part
of the necessary recompiles specified in /usr/ports/UPDATING - 20090309)
This was on a system already on 8.0 (upgraded from 7.2)
But I have another issue with that libusb on another system, which is stil
7.2.
I want to do the same thing there as described in UPDATING - 20090309

But after pkg_delete,
pkg_delete: package 'libusb-0.1.12_4' is required by these other packages
and may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway):
hplip-3.10.5_1
kdebase-3.5.10_7
kdepim-3.5.10_7
kdeutils-3.5.10_5

at the
# cat ${tempfile} | xargs portupgrade -f --batch --yes | tee
/tmp/portupgrade-libusb

it first reinstalls  libusb-0.1.12_4  again !?
(This is installed as a dependency of hplip-3.5.10_1)

Why ??

After pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/libusb-* I did a
# pkgdb -F
---  Checking the package registry database
Stale dependency: hplip-3.10.5_1 - libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb):
libutempter-1.1.5_1 (score:21%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]   geef:  y
Fixed. (- libutempter-1.1.5_1)
Stale dependency: kdebase-3.5.10_7 - libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb):
libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]  geef: enter voor yes
Fixed. (- libutempter-1.1.5_1)
Stale dependency: kdepim-3.5.10_7 - libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb):
libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]  geef: enter voor yes
Fixed. (- libutempter-1.1.5_1)
Stale dependency: kdeutils-3.5.10_5 - libusb-0.1.12_4 (devel/libusb):
libutempter-1.1.5_1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]  geef: enter voor yes
Fixed. (- libutempter-1.1.5_1)
Did I do something wrong here?

The only difference I see is that I now still am on 7.2, but it should be
doing it also
what is missing ?


2010/6/6 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org

 n dhert ndhert...@gmail.com writes:

  But is there a workarround somehow in case I DO need to specify options
  different from the default ??
  I'd really want to know that, for in case ...

 cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4  make config

 This is covered in man ports.

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reinstall all of Xorg

2010-06-07 Thread n dhert
After an upgrade FreeBSD72 - 80, Xorg doesn't work
looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7
Current O S  FreeSBD-8.0-RELEASE-p2

I have done a portupgrade -af after upgrading, but somehow if seems not to
have done this for Xorg ??
How can I reinstall anything of Xorg ?

Will this do the job?
# cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg
# make clean
# make deinstall
# make reinstall clean
or
# portupgrade -f xorg

i'm confused and would like to get it right ...
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Eduardo
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:

 This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please
 slap me over to the right one.
 
 Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
 OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
 spreadsheet.
 
 Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that
 supports complex formulas and charting?  If it could also be used
 without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day.
 

You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO
compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo
version works for a month.

http://www.softmaker.com/english/

(Note that i'm not a Softmaker worker, only a user)

HTH
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make: don't know how to make /usr/local/ssl/fips-1.0/lib/fipscanister.o. Stop

2010-06-07 Thread Pamela Pomary
Hello fellow freebsd users.
 I'am installing openssl from ports on freebsd 8.0. In the process it
complains and stops. here is the error:

make: don't know how to make /usr/local/ssl/fips-1.0/lib/fipscanister.o. Stop


Will be grateful for help on this error.

cheers! :)


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Re: What happens with x11-toolkits/linux-f10-gtk2 ?

2010-06-07 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:00:23 +0200 Antonio Vieiro wrote:

 fetch: 
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/../releases/10/Everything/i386/os/Packages/gtk2-2.14.7-7.fc10.i386.rpm:
 Not Found

I've just updated the port to gtk2-2.14.7-9.fc10.
Give it a try, please.

Thanks for the report!

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
Harry Matthiesen Jensen free...@elgert.dk articulated:


 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
  
  As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
  says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
  linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an
  workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within
  firefox 3.6?
  
 
 I just portinstall firefox3, which right now will give you Firefox
 3.5.9, and java works ;-)

The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
'3.6.x' will become available.

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RE: Small webserver recommendations

2010-06-07 Thread peter harrison
Thanks, I never realised thttpd could run cgi. Looks simple to configure too.

Cheers,

Peter.


-Original Message-
From: andrew clarke m...@ozzmosis.com
Sent: 07 June 2010 11:08
To: peter harrison four.harris...@googlemail.com
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Small webserver recommendations


On Sun 2010-06-06 18:44:10 UTC+0100, peter harrison
(four.harris...@googlemail.com) wrote:

 I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably
 with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well.
 Anyone willing to make a recommendation?

thttpd?

http://acme.com/software/thttpd/
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Re: Small webserver recommendations

2010-06-07 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun 2010-06-06 18:44:10 UTC+0100, peter harrison 
(four.harris...@googlemail.com) wrote:

 I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably
 with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well.
 Anyone willing to make a recommendation?

thttpd?

http://acme.com/software/thttpd/
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Harry Matthiesen Jensen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:08:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
  
  I just portinstall firefox3, which right now will give you Firefox
  3.5.9, and java works ;-)
 
 The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
 
I am fully aware of that...

The short answer would be not yet possible or just wait, will come
later... which in my world not is an answer anyone can use..

I just showed a way of getting java support in Firefox 3 ;-)

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Re: Small webserver recommendations

2010-06-07 Thread Artifex Maximus
Hello!

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM, peter harrison
four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I'm looking for a small webserver to add to a nanobsd image, so preferably
 with few dependencies too. Needs to be able to run Perl cgi's as well.
 Anyone willing to make a recommendation?

nginx?

http://nginx.org/

Bye,
a
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Re: reinstall all of Xorg

2010-06-07 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 07/06/2010 12:42 μ.μ., n dhert wrote:
 After an upgrade FreeBSD72 - 80, Xorg doesn't work
 looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells
 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p7
 Current O S  FreeSBD-8.0-RELEASE-p2

 I have done a portupgrade -af after upgrading, but somehow if seems not to
 have done this for Xorg ??
 How can I reinstall anything of Xorg ?

 Will this do the job?
 # cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 # make clean
 # make deinstall
 # make reinstall clean
   

I doubt this will work. x11/xorg is a meta port, make deinstall will not
really deinstall anything but the skeleton port.
If you wish to go down this route, install something like
ports-mgmt/pkg_rmleaves. Then select xorg from the list and follow down
all the list of dependencies it will show you while it is running, until
everything is uninstalled.
 or
 # portupgrade -f xorg

   
Probably portupgrade -Rf xorg
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com wrote:
 Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports
 complex formulas and charting?  If it could also be used without X11 when
 charting isn't needed, that would make my day.

 Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports
 charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a Linux
 system, seems much lighter than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more
 quickly than Calc.

math/sc is a text-only (ncurses-based) version of VisiCalc.

It could use some improvements though, but it's fine
for small quick-n-dirty jobs.

 pkg_add -r gnumeric should install it for you.

-cpghost.

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Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown

2010-06-07 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote:


I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's
based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of
this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's
diminutive stature is quite cute.

The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming
propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131
ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as
displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it
will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface
is going UP and DOWN, then continue.


If it's like the alc setup on an Acer Aspire One D250, the 10/100 alc 
chip is used with a 10/100/1000 Atheros PHY.  Don't remember the exact 
symptoms, but it only worked right after manually setting the media to 
100baseTX.  That was on a gigabit network, but might also help with no 
cable connected.


Rebuilding the kernel without the alc device ought to also work, but is 
less elegant.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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mixer relative values don't work without a dev: bug or by design?

2010-06-07 Thread Eitan Adler
% mixer vol +4
Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 94:94.
% mixer vol -4
Setting the mixer vol from 94:94 to 90:90.
% mixer 95
Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 95:95.
% mixer 90
Setting the mixer vol from 95:95 to 90:90.

% mixer +5
Setting the mixer vol from 90:90 to 5:5.
% mixer -5
usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ...
   mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ...
   mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ...
 devices: vol, bass, treble, pcm, mic, rec
 rec devices: mic


I have a patch that changes this so that the latter two commands work
like the first few and I'm wondering if this would be wanted?

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
  On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
  Harry Matthiesen Jensen free...@elgert.dk articulated:
  
  
   On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:

As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an
workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within
firefox 3.6?

   
   I just portinstall firefox3, which right now will give you Firefox
   3.5.9, and java works ;-)
  
  The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
  versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
  '3.6.x' will become available.

Dear Jerry,

as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please allow 
me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our 'Keep 
FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads will roll.

Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely familiar 
with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired to do the 
actual programming.  It would be most helpful if you could apportion 
blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise I'll have to 
work through layers of department heads, middle management, team leaders 
and such, and you know how they can close ranks in a crisis.  It may 
take some time, but rest assured we'll catch and fire him, her or them!

Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your complaint.  
If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally authorise the full 
refund of your purchase price.

Best of luck, Ian
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Re: is it safe to crossbuild 6.4 i386 on 7.3 amd64 box?

2010-06-07 Thread doug


On Tue, 11 May 2010, pluknet wrote:


Hi,

That's sort of for the record.
I faced with issue where I wasn't able to boot a box w/ kernel built
with subj scheme.

On build box with 7.3-amd64 installed:
1. prepare world/kernel in an existing chrooted 6.4-S environment =
doesn't work (see below)
2. prepare world/kernel just cd'ing to 6.4-S src  change
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX = PROFIT!
Both built with equal config and source.

Next, what does not work in 1.
System stops after printing point_to_point in /etc/rc.d/initrandom:
  # XXX temporary until we can improve the entropy
   # harvesting rate.
   # Entropy below is not great, but better than nothing.
   # This unblocks the generator at startup
   ( ps -fauxww; sysctl -a; date; df -ib; dmesg; ps -fauxww ) \
   | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2/dev/null

Here sysctl -a queries dev.cpu.0.freq - cpufreq_curr_sysctl@/kern/kern_cpu.c
and locks up. As I understand, CPU doesn't return from sched_switch().

118 ethernet
118 point_to_point
KDB: enter: Line break on console

db ps
 pid  ppid  pgrp   uid   state   wmesg wchancmd
  686651 0  R+  CPU 255 sysctl
  666451 0  S+  wait 0xc82e6648 sh
  655951 0  S+  piperd   0xc853f4c8 dd
  645951 0  S+  wait 0xc82e6218 sh
  595151 0  S+  wait 0xc82e6a78 sh
  51 151 0  Ss+ wait 0xc852ec90 sh

db bt 68
Tracing pid 68 tid 100076 td 0xc8551820
sched_switch(c8551820,0,1) at sched_switch+0x143
mi_switch(1,0,c8551980,0,c0adf560,...) at mi_switch+0x1ba
sched_bind(c8551820,0) at sched_bind+0x52
cpu_est_clockrate(0,eebeead4,c84f3400,3,c84f3400,...) at cpu_est_clockrate+0xc1
cf_levels_method(c8214900,c85da000,eebeeb48) at cf_levels_method+0x303
cf_get_method(c8214900,c85cb000) at cf_get_method+0x12b
cpufreq_curr_sysctl(c8218cc0,c81ea000,0,eebeec04,c8218cc0,...) at cpufreq_curr_s
sysctl_root(0,eebeec74,4,eebeec04) at sysctl_root+0x107
userland_sysctl(c8551820,eebeec74,4,0,bfbfdbdc,0,0,0,eebeec70,0) at userland_sys
__sysctl(c8551820,eebeed04) at __sysctl+0x93
syscall(3b,3b,3b,4,bfbfdbdc,...) at syscall+0x2bf
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x1f
--- syscall (202, FreeBSD ELF32, __sysctl), eip = 0x2812650b, esp = 0xbfbfdb4c,

I was able to cross-build and install a 32 bit 8.0 kernel using an amd64 system 
as the build machine. I was never able to get installworld to work. I did this 
by NFS mounting the target system's fs on the build system.


I mixed the information in the following link
http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/cross-building-freebsd.html with advice from 
others to get the kernel installed. I do not have access to my notes at the 
moment. If you would like details on what I tried let me know. It is unclear if 
cross-building is officially supported.

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Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 22:00, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
   
  I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh.  But I was raised on the
  Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s.  The C-shell versions
  of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're
  arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the
  fingertips.  So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the
  features of csh that zsh cherry-picked.
 
 Given my preference for (t)csh syntax over sh syntax for an interactive
 shell, I guess that doesn't give me a whole lot of motivation to try it
 out.  Another response to my question discusses some other benefits,
 though. . . .
 
 Thanks for your perspective.
 

My pleasure, Chad.  If I had learned csh first, I'd probably stick with
tcsh myself.

I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to
try FreeBSD.  I absolutely love it.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 21:56, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
  
  Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
  OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
  spreadsheet.
  
  Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports
  complex formulas and charting?  If it could also be used without X11 when
  charting isn't needed, that would make my day.
 
 It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the
 matter:
 
 Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office?
 
 If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible?
 
 There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS
 Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to
 roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of
 anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would
 work for the purposes you described.  Maybe someone else can comment on
 the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for
 instance).
 
 Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a
 binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java),
 I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install
 from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via
 MS Excel.  I loathe applications written in VBA, to put it mildly, and
 only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o
 install on one of my computers for so long.
 
 -- 
 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

That's a very good point.

For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue.  But I do have clients
who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in
Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office
tool, if only for converting from a different format.  I'm currently
doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my
involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must.


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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread bdsfbsd

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:16 -0400, Harry Matthiesen Jensen
free...@elgert.dk wrote:


The short answer would be not yet possible or just wait, will come
later... which in my world not is an answer anyone can use..



I've been looking for some indication as to how much later later is..  
one week, one month, one year..?


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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700
 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
 
  This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please
  slap me over to the right one.
  
  Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
  OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
  spreadsheet.
 
 There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to 
 start, I guess that your system has a low hardware?

I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be
considered lo (sic) hardware.  Everything else runs very quickly, even
Windows 7 in VirtualBox.  OOo is the only time I find myself waiting
impatiently.
 
 For short/unstructure documents, I suggest you to use Ooo (it slows but you 
 can type the document quickly:D) For long/structure documents, LaTeX is a 
 good choice. It is said that ConTeXt is good replacement of LaTeX but I have 
 never tried it.
 
  Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that
  supports complex formulas and charting?  If it could also be used
  without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day.
 
 Have you ever tried Google Spreadsheet or something like that?

I'm not quite ready to hand all my confidential documents over to
Google's servers.
 

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
 On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700
 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:

  This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please
  slap me over to the right one.
 
  Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
  OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
  spreadsheet.

 There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to 
 start, I guess that your system has a low hardware?

 I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be
 considered lo (sic) hardware.  Everything else runs very quickly, even
 Windows 7 in VirtualBox.  OOo is the only time I find myself waiting
 impatiently.


Well, now that I recall I had a similar issue with the Android SDK
under Linux, and it's related to your problem because OO uses gjc (the
GNU Java implementation) as a pre-requisite and Eclipse was using
_that_ instead of the Sun jdk I had installed. Well the issue is that
Eclipse _took FOREVER_ to start, much like what you are describiong
right now with OO (albeit I use FBSD with OO in older hw w/ no
problems). Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java
implementation, and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work
with Sun's JRE 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling
your problem is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine.
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RE: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Márcio C . G .

As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA 
PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6.
I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too.
Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within 
firefox 3.6?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Marcio C. Goulart
 I'm just trying to figure out some way to make the plugin available in 
linux-sun-jdk16 work within Firefox 3.6. If it works in Firefox under Linux, 
probably should work with FreeBSD+Firefox 3.6+linuxulator etc. I guess.
If someone got an idea in that way, I would appreciate that.

Thanks in advace,

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 07/06/2010 17:34:56, Chip Camden wrote:
 For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue.  But I do have clients
 who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in
 Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office
 tool, if only for converting from a different format.  I'm currently
 doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my
 involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must.

Heh.  Do you always remember to save your MS Office documents in such a
way that it clears the history before you e-mail them out?  Many times
taking a document and hitting 'Undo' a few times can reveal all sorts of
stuff that you probably wouldn't have wanted to be made public.

Lots of places refuse to permit sending out MS Office documents for that
specific reason: PDF is generally acceptable even to the most
unenlightened Windows users.  Ideally though it should be possible to
use an open standard, like XHTML or SVG, so the recipients could edit it
themselves if needed.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 07 2010 12:54, Alejandro Imass wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden
 sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
  On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote:
  On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700
  Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
 
   This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please
   slap me over to the right one.
  
   Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
   OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
   spreadsheet.
 
  There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to 
  start, I guess that your system has a low hardware?
 
  I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would 
  be
  considered lo (sic) hardware.  Everything else runs very quickly, even
  Windows 7 in VirtualBox.  OOo is the only time I find myself waiting
  impatiently.
 
 
 Well, now that I recall I had a similar issue with the Android SDK
 under Linux, and it's related to your problem because OO uses gjc (the
 GNU Java implementation) as a pre-requisite and Eclipse was using
 _that_ instead of the Sun jdk I had installed. Well the issue is that
 Eclipse _took FOREVER_ to start, much like what you are describiong
 right now with OO (albeit I use FBSD with OO in older hw w/ no
 problems). Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java
 implementation, and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work
 with Sun's JRE 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling
 your problem is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine.

That's a good clue -- I'll let you know what I find out.
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 07 2010 18:16, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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 On 07/06/2010 17:34:56, Chip Camden wrote:
  For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue.  But I do have clients
  who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in
  Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office
  tool, if only for converting from a different format.  I'm currently
  doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my
  involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must.
 
 Heh.  Do you always remember to save your MS Office documents in such a
 way that it clears the history before you e-mail them out?  Many times
 taking a document and hitting 'Undo' a few times can reveal all sorts of
 stuff that you probably wouldn't have wanted to be made public.
 
 Lots of places refuse to permit sending out MS Office documents for that
 specific reason: PDF is generally acceptable even to the most
 unenlightened Windows users.  Ideally though it should be possible to
 use an open standard, like XHTML or SVG, so the recipients could edit it
 themselves if needed.
 
I'm not fond of Word format in the least.  I've mentioned these kinds of
vulnerabilities and others, but some clients are stubbornly clinging to
old ways.  That said, one of the clients I'm thinking about is exploring
the idea of using a wiki instead of trading documents -- a move that I am
encouraging vehemently.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:


For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue.  But I do have clients
who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in
Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office
tool, if only for converting from a different format.  I'm currently
doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my
involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must.


The genuine Office runs in most of its appalling glory on Wine.  Starts 
up far quicker than OO.o, too.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:56:50 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS
 Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to
 roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of
 anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would
 work for the purposes you described. 

And don't forget there's also StarOffice, the program it all began
with. :-)



 Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a
 binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java),
 I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install
 from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via
 MS Excel. 

In the past, OpenOffice provided localized binary packages, and
you could e. g. pkg_add -r de-openoffice to install the german
version of OpenOffice, including dictionary. Thanks to today's
modern software this isn't possible anymore, simply due to the
many options you NEED to set at compile-time, and things like a
dictionary need to be added afterwards manually. So compiling
OpenOffice is your only chance to get it, except there is someone
who did compile it for you with the correct options (e. g. regarding
the use of Java, CUPS, Gnome, KDE, and so on).





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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 07 2010 12:14, Warren Block wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue.  But I do have clients
 who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in
 Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office
 tool, if only for converting from a different format.  I'm currently
 doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my
 involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must.
 
 The genuine Office runs in most of its appalling glory on Wine.  Starts 
 up far quicker than OO.o, too.
 
 -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

Thanks, but no thanks.  I can't type and drive a stake at the same time.

Seriously, I'd like to avoid polluting my precious FreeBSD system with
Microsoft bits, unless it's within a VM.

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Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:06:28AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote:
  
  I cannot say about the tcsh features.
 
 That's kind of a shame, since tcsh is what I prefer these days, having
 long since given up on bash (pretty much immediately after I started
 using FreeBSD as my primary OS instead of bash, and realized I preferred
 the csh-style syntax).

I may use this chance to add that I'm also a fan of FreeBSD's csh
especially from the standpoint of dialog behaviour. For example,
autocompletition is - in my opinion - much better than in bash
(which does force too much interaction).

Example:

$ ls /usr/local/bin/m[tab]
BEEP!
*** [tab]
Display all 146 possibilities? (y or n)
*** y
mDNSClientPosix*moc-qt4*
mDNSIdentify*   modutil*
--More--(1%)
*** q
$ ls /usr/local/bin/m

The *** marks all unneccessary interaction that interrupts
work flow.

Also, csh's history behaviour is better - again in my opinion.
For example, if you enter bl and press the up / down arrow keys,
you can browse all commands that started with bl, e. g. bla, 
bli, blubb, blonk and so on. In bash, you would browse
through *all* commands using the same approach.

I am aware of the fact that most shell behaviour can be configured
or reprogrammed, but I'm just talking about the default settings.



 I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the
 fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say).  Maybe I
 should some day.  Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports
 vi-mode editing.

According to man csh, it is possible:

   The command-line editor (+)
   Command-line  input  can  be edited using key sequences much like those
   used in GNU Emacs or vi(1).  The editor is active only  when  the  edit
   shell  variable  is  set, which it is by default in interactive shells.
   The bindkey builtin can display and change key  bindings.   Emacs-style
   key  bindings are used by default (unless the shell was compiled other-
   wise; see the version shell variable), but bindkey can change  the  key
   bindings to vi-style bindings en masse.




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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 Latex Beamer rules!

In LaTeX, use foils class. Use the final product with

% xpdf -fullscreen filename

It just works, and additionally rules. :-)


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Re: how do i use a memory stick on freebsd?

2010-06-07 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 guys,

 my wife emptied a bunch of files onto her memory stick;  the pc
 is not here.  i have never used one of these devices before and
 want to know how, if it is possible, to read her dos/lose
 material from my bsd system.  7.3, dell, plenty of disk, and yes,
 i know where the usb slot it!

 do i need to put something in /usr/rc.conf? build a driver or
 utility?  or what?

 tia, Y'all!

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instructions before and after, restart GNOME and then plug the drive
in. It should get mounted and appear on our desktop (well, it worked
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gstreamer-plugins / dependency on webcamd (FreeBSD 7.3)

2010-06-07 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi,

A portupgrade done today stopped with an error during the upgrade of
gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3 with the following error:

--  Cut here  --
===  Installing for gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3
===   gstreamer-plugins-v4l2-0.10.23,3 depends on executable: webcamd - not fou
nd
===Verifying install for webcamd in /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd
===  webcamd-0.1.14 requires FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE or later.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/webcamd.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-plugins-v4l2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/cheese.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20100607-41
064-einl-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=cheese-2.28.1_2 UPGRADE_POR
T_VER=2.28.1_2 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
--  Cut here  --


The problem is that the upgrade depends on webcamd which as per the
error message requires FreeBSD 8.0.

I'm running FreeBSD 7.3 with system and kernel as per April 9, 2010.


Has anybody else experienced a problem like this?

Any cure against this?

Thanks much in advance for you help!

-ewald
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST)
Ian Smith smi...@nimnet.asn.au articulated:


 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net
 wrote:
   On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
   Harry Matthiesen Jensen free...@elgert.dk articulated:
   
   
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
 
 As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
 says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
 linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there
 an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin
 within firefox 3.6?
 

I just portinstall firefox3, which right now will give you
Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-)
   
   The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
   versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
   '3.6.x' will become available.
 
 Dear Jerry,
 
 as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please
 allow me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our
 'Keep FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads
 will roll.
 
 Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely
 familiar with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired
 to do the actual programming.  It would be most helpful if you could
 apportion blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise
 I'll have to work through layers of department heads, middle
 management, team leaders and such, and you know how they can close
 ranks in a crisis.  It may take some time, but rest assured we'll
 catch and fire him, her or them!
 
 Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your
 complaint. If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally
 authorise the full refund of your purchase price.

I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a
serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist
within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating
systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this
regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet
detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share
it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack
of said product.

Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and
FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past
experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released
before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real
possibility.

Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit:

Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is
insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open
source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait.

Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more
interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a
fully serviceable, quality product. When was the last time you tried
getting a native FreeBSD driver for an  'N' class USB wireless
device? Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to
me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully
functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that
is just my 2₵.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jun  6 23:47:34 2010
 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400
 From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: office apps

 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wro=
 te:
  On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
 

 [...]

  I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which
  is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations?

 Latex Beamer rules!


But, that's such an -upscale- solution!

For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter?


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many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }}



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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 13:34, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jun  6 23:47:34 2010
 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400
 From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: office apps

 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wro=
 te:
  On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
 

 [...]

  I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which
  is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations?

 Latex Beamer rules!


 But, that's such an -upscale- solution!

 For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter?


 {{ taking bets with my self on (a) how many recognize the pun, and (b) how
 many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }}

Never played with VolksWriter, but recognize the name. Of course, I'm
very unhappy about the pun - because you came up with it a-hood of me!

Heh.


Kurt
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 06 2010 19:56, Mike Jeays wrote:
 On June 6, 2010 04:34:16 pm Chip Camden wrote:
  This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap
  me over to the right one.
 
  Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite?
  OOo is such a pig.  It takes a good minute to start it up and open a
  spreadsheet.
 
  Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports
  complex formulas and charting?  If it could also be used without X11 when
  charting isn't needed, that would make my day.
 
 Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports 
 charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a 
 Linux 
 system, seems much lighter than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more 
 quickly than Calc.
 
 pkg_add -r gnumeric should install it for you.
 
Gnumeric *is* nice and quick.  I'll use that for SS until I find
something better.

Thanks!

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jun  6 23:47:34 2010
 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:44:45 -0400
 From: Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: office apps

 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wro=
 te:
  On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote:
 

 [...]

  I'm not sure what to do with PPT's. =A0Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which
  is what almost everyone else seems to be using for presentations?

 Latex Beamer rules!


 But, that's such an -upscale- solution!

 For the proletariat, how about a good oil-based VolksWriter?


Nahh, man. Beamer is easy as 123, once everything is installed. All
you need is a decent text editor and voilá, beatifulk, meaninful,
well-structred presentations! and in PDF, plus it's easy to make
hand-outs and other advanced stuff. The Beamer book is ver extensive,
but I would be happy to post an example beamer presentation here if
you want.


 {{ taking bets with my self on (a) how many recognize the pun, and (b) how
 many people even -remember- VolksWriter :) }}



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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

2010-06-07 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
[ ... ]
 I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a 
 serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within 
 the FreeBSD framework.

That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running FF+Java 
under Linux emulation.  

 A quick investigation of other operating systems would seem to indicate that 
 FreeBSD is virtually alone in this regards.

The JRE from java.sun.com has binaries for Linux, Solaris, and Windows-- which 
are the officially supported Java platforms-- and one could add Apple's MacOSX. 
 If you are running FreeBSD, Plan 9, HP/UX, IRIX, AIX, or anything else, Java 
is not going to be nearly as well-supported.

If Java is critical to you, seriously consider using another platform.

 Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and
 FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past
 experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released
 before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real
 possibility.

That's entirely possible.

 Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit:
 
 Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is
 insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open
 source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait.

Like many things, different people's motives and perspective tend to shape how 
they perceive the same set of underlying facts.

 Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more
 interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a
 fully serviceable, quality product.

The two aren't closely related.  Major version # bumps in commercial software 
often happen because the vendor wants to sell upgrade licenses, but that 
motivation simply doesn't apply to FreeBSD.  Major version # bumps happen in 
FreeBSD primarily because of major API changes which end up making an entirely 
new version of userland libc  other libraries desirable.  

 When was the last time you tried getting a native FreeBSD driver for an 'N' 
 class USB wireless device?

Never.  The only 'N' device I have around is a Macbook Pro, and that's running 
the vendor-supplied driver which came with the device.

 Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to
 me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully
 functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that
 is just my 2₵.

Hopefully you get your money's worth.

Regards,
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 11:49:37AM +0200, Eduardo wrote:
 
 You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO
 compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo
 version works for a month.
 
 http://www.softmaker.com/english/

Interesting.  It looks like SoftMaker Office is in the ports tree, at:

/usr/ports/editors/softmaker-office

I'll have to consider whether it's worth investigating as an alternative
to OO.o for my own purposes.  I'd rather not spend money on something
that I never use except when someone else forces me to do so, against
my better judgment and preferences, but it might be worth a few dollars
to avoid the annoyance of dealing with OO.o on the rare occasion that I
do need something MS Office compatible.

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Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 08:26:04PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:06:07 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 
  I've never really tried using vi-mode editing in any shell, despite the
  fact I'm a constant vi user (even a vi gangsta, one might say).  Maybe I
  should some day.  Thus far, though, I don't even know if tcsh supports
  vi-mode editing.
 
 According to man csh, it is possible:
 
The command-line editor (+)
Command-line  input  can  be edited using key sequences much like those
used in GNU Emacs or vi(1).  The editor is active only  when  the  edit
shell  variable  is  set, which it is by default in interactive shells.
The bindkey builtin can display and change key  bindings.   Emacs-style
key  bindings are used by default (unless the shell was compiled other-
wise; see the version shell variable), but bindkey can change  the  key
bindings to vi-style bindings en masse.

Excellent!  I don't have to wait until I get off my tuckus to look it up
now.  Thank for feeding my laziness.

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Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 09:31:05AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to
 try FreeBSD.  I absolutely love it.

I consider it a service to mankind to encourage more people using better,
and better-licensed, software.  You're welcome, and I'm pleased as punch
it's working out so well for you.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Antonio Olivares
Just an FYI here folks.

If one has gmail, we can Preview these Documents via the web browsers :)

But I believe that we are ok with the office apps that we have :)
koffice(kword,kspread, kpresenter, ...)
goffice(abiword, gnumeric, ..., )
OO(openoffice-writer,... )
There is GO OO which is a smaller version of OpenOffice, don't know if
it is in the ports or not?

Several persons have named TeX/LaTeX , but I *wonder* when TeXLive
will replace TeTEX on FreeBSD?  NetBSD/OpenBSD already have it, what
is taking them too long to include them officially?

I know about the builds, and google-code, but it is still not the same
:(, like you would get from other systems .

Regards,

Antonio

On 6/8/10, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 11:49:37AM +0200, Eduardo wrote:

 You can use Softmaker products. They are not free but are MS-OO
 compatible, fast and linux version works fine under FreeBSD. Demo
 version works for a month.

 http://www.softmaker.com/english/

 Interesting.  It looks like SoftMaker Office is in the ports tree, at:

 /usr/ports/editors/softmaker-office

 I'll have to consider whether it's worth investigating as an alternative
 to OO.o for my own purposes.  I'd rather not spend money on something
 that I never use except when someone else forces me to do so, against
 my better judgment and preferences, but it might be worth a few dollars
 to avoid the annoyance of dealing with OO.o on the rare occasion that I
 do need something MS Office compatible.

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need help with apache22 and libphp5.so

2010-06-07 Thread Gary Kline

i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks.  i
just noticed that my web server won't build.  or/when it does, it
won't start.  i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start
and get:



httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of
/usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load
/usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open
/usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so

When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so:


r...@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so
/usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so

Can anybody explain the recent changes?  i did read UPDATING, but
didn't get that much out of it...

gary



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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chris Hill

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:

[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that 
I send them specs in Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using 
some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different 
format.  I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd 
like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when 
I must.


I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and 
really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo 
foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, 
so...


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Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so

2010-06-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:21:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks.  i
 just noticed that my web server won't build.  or/when it does, it
 won't start.  i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start
 and get:
 
 
 
 httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of
 /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load
 /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open
 /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so
 
 When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so:
 
 
 r...@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so
 /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so
 
 Can anybody explain the recent changes?  i did read UPDATING, but
 didn't get that much out of it...
 

{*}


guys, i understand that it is 'improper' to reply to one's
own post, esp'ly the first reply, but i have discovered more
of what is ggoing on.  

First, i tried to start apache22 with the script in
/usr/local/etc/rc.d; same outcome, just same results are
starting the binary directly.  nonetheless,  i edited the
httpd.conf in /usr/local/etc/apache22.  i corrected the
libphp.so directory to read 'apache' rather than 'apache22'.

so the library is presumably loaded, then something else is
missing.  i cannot find ap_user_id; neither locate nor a
recursive grep finds this string.  

when i exec the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 with 'configtest'
as an arg i get this:


Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot 
load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so into server: 
/usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so: Undefined symbol ap_user_id
r...@ethic:/usr/local/etc/rc.d# 
 


question number one, which port builds the apache php5
library?  number two; is there one that will resolve the
missing 'ap_user_id'?

several months ago i built a friend's website; he is is
contruction which is hurting; i figured having a website
might give him an edge.  no ..  this was gratis.  not dime,
dollar, nor favor is involved.  i would like to get apache up
for myself and my friend.  gotta say that this port wasn't
handled very well in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  OR, too, i may be
the idiot de jour.  i only care that my webserver gets up
again, so thanks for any clues!

gary


 
 
 
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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 12:29:08AM +, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 
 But I believe that we are ok with the office apps that we have :)
 koffice(kword,kspread, kpresenter, ...)
 goffice(abiword, gnumeric, ..., )
 OO(openoffice-writer,... )
 There is GO OO which is a smaller version of OpenOffice, don't know if
 it is in the ports or not?

I'm not any kind of fan of OO.o, thanks to its weight, slowness,
Java-dependent build process, lack of binary availability, obtuse
interface (much like MS Office's), and so on.  I don't feel the need to
install all of KDE or GNOME just to get a word processor and spreadsheet
program I might use a couple times a year.

I don't think Go-oo is smaller than OO.o, though it is reportedly a lot
faster.  Of course, it's not in ports, and I'm not keen on building
something roughly the size of OO.o just to find out if it runs a little
faster, so I don't know personally whether that's true.

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Re: office apps

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 10:12:44PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote:
 
 [...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that 
 I send them specs in Word format.  For that, I guess I'm stuck using 
 some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different 
 format.  I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd 
 like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when 
 I must.
 
 I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and 
 really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo 
 foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, 
 so...

I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text.  On
the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text
if they must have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as
DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after
making some changes.

I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the
rarity, rather than me being the odd man out.

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nvi autoindent

2010-06-07 Thread Chad Perrin
Is there perhaps some way to get language-specific autoindent with nvi,
perhaps similar to what Vim provides?  I've been scouring the manpage to
no avail, and at this point suspect that the only automatic indentation
support is a simple automatic indentation of the next line by the same
mount the current line is indented when entering a newline.

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svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64

2010-06-07 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
hello,

i am trying to install vlc  but i came up against this error..

===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file:
/usr/local/live/liveMedia/libliveMedia.a - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on package: v4l_compat=1.0.20100321 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/include/X11/xpm.h - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: gmake - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc -
found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so -
found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/sdl-config - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract -
found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file:
/usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: pkg-config - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avcodec.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: notify.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tar.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: zvbi.13 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: hal.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avahi-common.3 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vcdinfo.2 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdio.12 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdda_interface.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvbpsi.5 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvdnav.4 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faac.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faad.2 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: FLAC.10 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: fribidi.3 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: aa.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dirac_decoder.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: x264.85 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: caca.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dca.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: matroska.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: a52.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpeg2.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: shout.5 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: theora.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tag.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: id3tag.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mad.2 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: modplug.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpcdec.5 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: ogg.7 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: gnutls.40 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: speex.1 - found
===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vga.1 - not found
===Verifying install for vga.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib
===  svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc.


i search in the mailing list and i found that if i make a modify with  make
confing in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8
these two parametres

[ ] GS_lvga256   D: SVGAlib, 256-color VGA modes
  [ ] GS_vgalib
 D: SVGAlib, 16-color VGA modes

that the problem will solved,but i had no luck.

also i updated my ports and the i updated the packages
multimedia/vlc,print/ghostscript,graphics/svgalib but still the problem
wasn't solved..

any help would be appreciated.:)
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Re: svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64

2010-06-07 Thread Manolis Kiagias
On 08/06/2010 8:16 π.μ., Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:
 hello,

 i am trying to install vlc  but i came up against this error..

 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file:
 /usr/local/live/liveMedia/libliveMedia.a - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on package: v4l_compat=1.0.20100321 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/include/X11/xpm.h - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: gmake - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xpm.pc -
 found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtCore.so -
 found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/qt4/libQtGui.so - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/moc-qt4 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rcc - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/uic-qt4 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/sdl-config - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract -
 found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on file:
 /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on executable: pkg-config - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avcodec.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dbus-1.3 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: notify.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tar.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: zvbi.13 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: hal.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: avahi-common.3 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vcdinfo.2 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdio.12 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: cdda_interface.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvbpsi.5 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dvdnav.4 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faac.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: faad.2 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: FLAC.10 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: fribidi.3 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: aa.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dirac_decoder.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: x264.85 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: caca.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: dca.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: matroska.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: a52.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpeg2.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: shout.5 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: theora.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: tag.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: id3tag.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mad.2 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: modplug.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: mpcdec.5 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: ogg.7 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: smbclient.0 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: gnutls.40 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: speex.1 - found
 ===   vlc-1.0.6_3,3 depends on shared library: vga.1 - not found
 ===Verifying install for vga.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib
 ===  svgalib-1.4.3_5 is only for i386, while you are running amd64.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/svgalib.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc.


 i search in the mailing list and i found that if i make a modify with  make
 confing in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8
 these two parametres

 [ ] GS_lvga256   D: SVGAlib, 256-color VGA modes
   [ ] GS_vgalib
  D: SVGAlib, 16-color VGA modes

 that the problem will solved,but i had no luck.

 also i updated my ports and the i updated the packages
 multimedia/vlc,print/ghostscript,graphics/svgalib but still the problem
 wasn't solved..

 any help would be appreciated.:)
   

This does not seem to be the only place where SVGALIB is defined though.
I just tried a make config-recursive in multimedia/vlc and can see
SVGALIB both in the main port, the sdl port and so on. It is off by
default (I am using amd64 too), so I guess you made some config changes
yourself.
At this point the easy way would be to:

cd /usr/ports/multimedia/vlc
make rmconfig-recursive
make config-recursive (careful not to select SVGALIB anywhere, or even
better just leave the default options)
make install clean
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Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so

2010-06-07 Thread Jeremy Johnston
On 06/07/10 19:58, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:21:11PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   
 i'v been having trouble upgrading stuff for the past n weeks.  i
 just noticed that my web server won't build.  or/when it does, it
 won't start.  i just fired off /usr/local/sbin/apachetl -k start
 and get:



 httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of
 /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot load
 /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so into server: Cannot open
 /usr/local/libexec/apache22/libphp5.so

 When i try to locate this file, i find it in apache/libphp5.so:


 r...@ethic:/usr/local/sbin# locate php5.so
 /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so

 Can anybody explain the recent changes?  i did read UPDATING, but
 didn't get that much out of it...

 
 {*}


   guys, i understand that it is 'improper' to reply to one's
   own post, esp'ly the first reply, but i have discovered more
   of what is ggoing on.  

   First, i tried to start apache22 with the script in
   /usr/local/etc/rc.d; same outcome, just same results are
   starting the binary directly.  nonetheless,  i edited the
   httpd.conf in /usr/local/etc/apache22.  i corrected the
   libphp.so directory to read 'apache' rather than 'apache22'.

   so the library is presumably loaded, then something else is
   missing.  i cannot find ap_user_id; neither locate nor a
   recursive grep finds this string.  

   when i exec the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 with 'configtest'
   as an arg i get this:


 Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
 httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: Cannot 
 load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so into server: 
 /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so: Undefined symbol ap_user_id
 r...@ethic:/usr/local/etc/rc.d#   



   question number one, which port builds the apache php5
   library?  number two; is there one that will resolve the
   missing 'ap_user_id'?

   several months ago i built a friend's website; he is is
   contruction which is hurting; i figured having a website
   might give him an edge.  no ..  this was gratis.  not dime,
   dollar, nor favor is involved.  i would like to get apache up
   for myself and my friend.  gotta say that this port wasn't
   handled very well in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  OR, too, i may be
   the idiot de jour.  i only care that my webserver gets up
   again, so thanks for any clues!

   gary


   


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the lang/php5 (or lang/php52) port builds the apache module. you will
need to rebuild the php port.
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