Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Robert  wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 19:09:27 -0600 (MDT)
> Warren Block  wrote:
>
>
>> It's weird that da1 can be mounted, but da1s1 can't.  Maybe a problem
>> with the filesystem.  Might be repairable, although probably it would
>> need proprietary programs.  Don't experiment with the original drive,
>> make a copy with dd for experimenting.
>
> Warren
>
> I should have mentioned that before. dd was the first thing I tried.
> I had an unused drive setup as UFS. Then did
>
> dd if=/dev/da1s1 of=/dev/ad12s1d bs=1m count=2000

I believe that the above 'if' operand to dd should instead be /dev/da1
(without the 's1' slice). Also, the operand 'of' will need to point to
a device, such as /dev/ad12, or a file on a mounted file system, such
as /mnt/my_disk_image.img

-Brandon
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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Robert
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 19:09:27 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block  wrote:


> It's weird that da1 can be mounted, but da1s1 can't.  Maybe a problem 
> with the filesystem.  Might be repairable, although probably it would 
> need proprietary programs.  Don't experiment with the original drive, 
> make a copy with dd for experimenting.

Warren

I should have mentioned that before. dd was the first thing I tried.
I had an unused drive setup as UFS. Then did

dd if=/dev/da1s1 of=/dev/ad12s1d bs=1m count=2000  

thinking I could try the first two gigabytes and then go from
there. It look like it went fine but then I could not mount the ad12s1d
partition. It was able to mount it previously. 

Going back even further, When I first realized there was a problem
with this drive, I booted with 8.1 livefs. The drive had lost it's id
that showed it was NTFS. I used "sade" and marked it as NTFS but was
never able to mount it. It is very possible that I messed it up but I
was having all sorts of problems with that computer and XP pro doesn't
exactly help one out.

Thanks again for your time.

Robert
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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 2 Oct 2010, Robert wrote:


But I cannot mount /dev/da1s1

~> sudo mount_ntfs /dev/da1s1 /mnt
mount_ntfs: /dev/da1s1: Invalid argument


It's weird that da1 can be mounted, but da1s1 can't.  Maybe a problem 
with the filesystem.  Might be repairable, although probably it would 
need proprietary programs.  Don't experiment with the original drive, 
make a copy with dd for experimenting.

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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Robert
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 17:00:00 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block  wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010, Robert wrote:
> 
> > Greetings
> >
> > I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was
> > running XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no
> > longer access that drive.
> >
> > I pulled it and attached it via USB to one of my FreeBSD machines
> > but it will not mount. It is a 500G hard drive and I get _wild_
> > results just looking at it with fdisk.
> >
> > ~> fdisk /dev/da1s1
> > *** Working on device /dev/da1s1 ***
> 
> Wait a minute... shouldn't that be just "da1"?  da1s1 is the first
> slice (partition), and the data there should be your XP filesystem,
> probably NTFS.

Warren,

You are right. Here it is:

 ~> fdisk /dev/da1
*** Working on device /dev/da1 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=60801 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=60801 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 7 (0x07),(NTFS, OS/2 HPFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX)
start 63, size 976773105 (476939 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:

The data for partition 3 is:

The data for partition 4 is:


Which looks a lot better. I can mount /dev/da1 and it shows 
 ~> ls -l /mnt
total 70044
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  2560 Dec 31  1600 $AttrDef
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 0 Oct  1 09:09 $BadClus
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   4194304 Dec 31  1600 $Bitmap
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  8192 Oct  1 09:09 $Boot
drwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 0 Oct  1 09:09 $Extend
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  67108864 Oct  1 09:09 $LogFile
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4096 Oct  1 09:09 $MFTMirr
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 0 Dec 31  1600 $Secure
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel131072 Oct  1 09:09 $UpCase
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 0 Oct  1 09:09 $Volume
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 45124 Aug 18  2001 NTDETECT.COM
drwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 0 Oct  1 17:29 System Volume
Information 
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   193 Oct  1 09:12 boot.ini
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel222368 Aug 18  2001 ntldr

But I cannot mount /dev/da1s1

 ~> sudo mount_ntfs /dev/da1s1 /mnt
mount_ntfs: /dev/da1s1: Invalid argument

Patrick wrote

May be "photorec" will help (in systutils/testdisk).
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

I installed this and can successfully recover the date to a spare
slice. The problem is the data is all over the place. There is a ton if
png files from her playing games on facebook. This can be better than
nothing because I can go through the files and move/rename the ones we
want to keep.

Thank you both. I am willing to try any other suggestions. It appears
the the motherboard went gradually bad and hosed up this drive.

Robert
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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 2 Oct 2010, Robert wrote:


Greetings

I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was running
XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no longer access
that drive.

I pulled it and attached it via USB to one of my FreeBSD machines but
it will not mount. It is a 500G hard drive and I get _wild_ results just
looking at it with fdisk.

~> fdisk /dev/da1s1
*** Working on device /dev/da1s1 ***


Wait a minute... shouldn't that be just "da1"?  da1s1 is the first slice 
(partition), and the data there should be your XP filesystem, probably 
NTFS.

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Re: ACPI & battery issues

2010-10-02 Thread Eitan Adler
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:01 PM,   wrote:
> I get the same messages with the stock acpi on a Lenovo S10e. Someone on the 
> acpi list (who's name I forget) wrote a patch which removes the error. If you 
> think it might help I'll root it out and forward it on.


I'll be happy to take a look at the patch and see if it solves my
problem. does the patch just remove the error message or solve a
specific problem that might be causing the issue?




>
...
> I see
> ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
> [EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
> ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
> [\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6adba60),
> AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE
>
> repeatedly in dmesg
>
> sysctl's relating to battery information is also slow:
> % time sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state
> hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
> sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state  0.00s user 2.18s system 72% cpu 3.006 total
>
> % time sysctl hw.acpi.battery
> hw.acpi.battery.life: -1
> hw.acpi.battery.time: -1
> hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
> hw.acpi.battery.units: 1
> hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5
> sysctl hw.acpi.battery  0.00s user 6.58s system 67% cpu 9.779 total
>
> also note that the life and time are both negative one.
>
> This is on a Lenovo G530 laptop.
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Re: ACPI & battery issues

2010-10-02 Thread four . harrisons
Sorry for the top post - I'm on my mobile.

I get the same messages with the stock acpi on a Lenovo S10e. Someone on the 
acpi list (who's name I forget) wrote a patch which removes the error. If you 
think it might help I'll root it out and forward it on.

Regards,

Peter Harrison
www.4harrisons.blogspot.com


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From:   "Eitan Adler" 
Subject:ACPI & battery issues
Date:   02nd October 2010 15:43

I see
ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6adba60),
AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

repeatedly in dmesg

sysctl's relating to battery information is also slow:
% time sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state
hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state  0.00s user 2.18s system 72% cpu 3.006 total

% time sysctl hw.acpi.battery
hw.acpi.battery.life: -1
hw.acpi.battery.time: -1
hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
hw.acpi.battery.units: 1
hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5
sysctl hw.acpi.battery  0.00s user 6.58s system 67% cpu 9.779 total

also note that the life and time are both negative one.

This is on a Lenovo G530 laptop.
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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 02.10.2010 21:08, Jerry wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:36:40 -0700
> Robert  articulated:
> 
>> I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was running
>> XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no longer
>> access that drive.
> 
> If the disk is the problem, I would suggest getting a copy of Spin-Rite
>  and running it at level 6 .
> It is the best disk recovery program I have come across.

+1 to that. I've been using spinrite for more than a decade, and have
lost count of the times it has saved data for me (or rather: For people
dumping their crashed pc in my lap, since _I_ have _BACKUPS_).

When you're done recovering data, you might want to take a look at your
backup strategy. Select a new one that doesn't depend on spinning metal
just as fragile as the one you're backing up from.

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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:36:40 -0700
Robert  articulated:

> I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was running
> XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no longer
> access that drive.

If the disk is the problem, I would suggest getting a copy of Spin-Rite
 and running it at level 6 .
It is the best disk recovery program I have come across.

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Re: OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:36:40 -0700,
Robert  a écrit :

> I tried to use "dd" and copy data to another spare drive. It appears
> to work but then I can no longer mount that drive. Other than taking
> it to a data recovery shop does anyone have any idea. 

May be "photorec" will help (in systutils/testdisk).
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

Good luck!
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Re: router / firewall with PF and carp.

2010-10-02 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:24:30 -0400,
Kevin Kobb  a écrit :

> Both would probably be fine. However, I would recommend taking a look
> at pfsense if I were you. It is made to do what you want without as
> much of the overhead as a full blown *BSD install.
> 
> It is easier to configure, update, the documentation is good, and you 
> can get top notch paid support from the developers if you want.

Pfsense was our first choice but it does not handle IPv6 yet.
http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Is_there_IPv6_support_available

Thanks to all for yours replies, regards.
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OT: fdisk

2010-10-02 Thread Robert
Greetings

I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was running
XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no longer access
that drive.

I pulled it and attached it via USB to one of my FreeBSD machines but
it will not mount. It is a 500G hard drive and I get _wild_ results just
looking at it with fdisk. 

 ~> fdisk /dev/da1s1
*** Working on device /dev/da1s1 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=60801 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=60801 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 114 (0x72),(unknown)
start 218129509, size 1701990410 (831050 Meg), flag 63
beg: cyl 368/ head 111/ sector 45;
end: cyl 371/ head 101/ sector 51
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 116 (0x74),(unknown)
start 729050177, size 543974724 (265612 Meg), flag 73
beg: cyl 67/ head 115/ sector 32;
end: cyl 299/ head 114/ sector 44
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 101 (0x65),(Novell Netware/386 3.xx)
start 168653938, size 0 (0 Meg), flag 74
beg: cyl 114/ head 111/ sector 32;
end: cyl 353/ head 115/ sector 52
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 0 (),(unused)
start 2692939776, size 51635 (25 Meg), flag 0
beg: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 0;
end: cyl 0/ head 0/ sector 0

I tried to use "dd" and copy data to another spare drive. It appears to
work but then I can no longer mount that drive. Other than taking it to
a data recovery shop does anyone have any idea. 

I haven't told her that her data is lost yet. I may have to wait until
we are drinking a bottle of wine. :-)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Robert
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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Jerry  wrote:

> I was of the opinion, and I could be wrong, that setting 'BATCH=yes'
> simply stopped the build process from attempting to create an options
> file; however, it would use an existing one if it was present. Perhaps
> someone with more intimate knowledge of this would care to comment. I
> say this because I have used the BATCH technique once I had all of my
> ports configured the way I wanted. Subsequent updates always appeared to
> use any existing configuration files.
>

That approach doesn't really make a lot of sense if non-fault options aren't
suitable for you.  Once you set the port options, the options screen doesn't
appear anyway(BATCH=no) unless options have changed.  With your usage, a
port with non-standard options could be changed, and your build wouldn't be
what you expect it to be.

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jerry  writes:

> On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:05:33 -0500
> Doug Poland  articulated:
>
>> If I understand the OPs question correctly, I believe setting the
>> environment variable BATCH=yes will give desired results with
>> portupgrade.  This will cause port compile defaults to be used in
>> lieu of an existing /var/db/ports/*/options file.
>
> I was of the opinion, and I could be wrong, that setting 'BATCH=yes'
> simply stopped the build process from attempting to create an options
> file; however, it would use an existing one if it was present. Perhaps
> someone with more intimate knowledge of this would care to comment. I
> say this because I have used the BATCH technique once I had all of my
> ports configured the way I wanted. Subsequent updates always appeared to
> use any existing configuration files.

In two minutes of looking at bsd.port.mk, 
I confirmed that this is correct.
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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Brandon Gooch
wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Thomas Mueller
>  wrote:
>
> Well, I'm not using portupgrade, but instead ports-mgmt/portmaster:
>
> # portmaster --force-config --no-confirm [...] lang/perl5.12
>
> Gets all of the config menus out of the way (--force-config), and
> doesn't sit waiting for confirmation to proceed with install
> (--no-confirm). I do this only the first time I build a port, or if I
> need to change a config option and reinstall.
>

On portmaster version 3, just use -G.  No more options menus.

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:05:33 -0500
Doug Poland  articulated:

> If I understand the OPs question correctly, I believe setting the
> environment variable BATCH=yes will give desired results with
> portupgrade.  This will cause port compile defaults to be used in
> lieu of an existing /var/db/ports/*/options file.

I was of the opinion, and I could be wrong, that setting 'BATCH=yes'
simply stopped the build process from attempting to create an options
file; however, it would use an existing one if it was present. Perhaps
someone with more intimate knowledge of this would care to comment. I
say this because I have used the BATCH technique once I had all of my
ports configured the way I wanted. Subsequent updates always appeared to
use any existing configuration files.

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Re: Swap on ZFS

2010-10-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Anselm Strauss  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a virtual server with only 512 MB of memory but still want to run
> ZFS on it.
> 
> Has there been any fix or workaround for this? I guess it does not help
> when I use a swap file on ZFS instead of a separate zvol.
>

Make sure you are following this:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot  Please note swap is not a
ZVOL, it is a sepate partition.  You'd have the same problem with ZVOL.
Also use i386, that will save you a bit of memory.  Follow the ZFS tuning
guide.  Even if you follow all those things, I'm not sure you'll be able to
get it stable.  512MB is really tight.

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Doug Poland

On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:49, Brandon Gooch  wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Thomas Mueller
>  wrote:
>> How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being 
>> interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports?  
>> Idea is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just 
>> before bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance to 
>> recover from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).
>> 
>> Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is 
>> doing a dry run
>> 
>> portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>> 
>> This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and avoid 
>> reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of those 
>> directories in the ports tree and run "make config".
>> 
>> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would 
>> produce configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that are 
>> up-to-date.
>> 
>> I tried
>> 
>> portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>> 
>> but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that 
>> were up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage 
>> when trying to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but 
>> produced non-color garbage to the background.
>> 
>> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would 
>> configure all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date and 
>> therefore not in need of portupgrading, though "make config-recursive" seems 
>> appropriate for a first build/install of a port.
>> 
>> But I think there is no perfect way to be sure of doing all "make config"s 
>> in advance, since selectable options could require additional dependencies.
>> 
>> If you try to portupgrade perl to 5.12 and everything that depends on it, as 
>> advised in UPDATING file, date 20100715, you will likely get a lot of 
>> configuration dialog screens: I speak from experience, would surely like a 
>> way to do all these "make config"s at the beginning.
>> 
>> Tom
> 
> Well, I'm not using portupgrade, but instead ports-mgmt/portmaster:
> 
> # portmaster --force-config --no-confirm [...] lang/perl5.12
> 
> Gets all of the config menus out of the way (--force-config), and
> doesn't sit waiting for confirmation to proceed with install
> (--no-confirm). I do this only the first time I build a port, or if I
> need to change a config option and reinstall.
> 
> Works for me!
> 
> -Brandon

If I understand the OPs question correctly, I believe setting the environment 
variable BATCH=yes will give desired results with portupgrade.  This will cause 
port compile defaults to be used in lieu of an existing /var/db/ports/*/options 
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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 09:49:49 -0500
Brandon Gooch  wrote:

> Well, I'm not using portupgrade, but instead ports-mgmt/portmaster:

+1

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Thomas Mueller
 wrote:
> How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being 
> interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports?  Idea 
> is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just before 
> bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance to recover 
> from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).
>
> Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is doing 
> a dry run
>
> portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>
> This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and avoid 
> reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of those 
> directories in the ports tree and run "make config".
>
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would produce 
> configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that are 
> up-to-date.
>
> I tried
>
> portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>
> but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that 
> were up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage when 
> trying to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but produced 
> non-color garbage to the background.
>
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would 
> configure all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date and therefore 
> not in need of portupgrading, though "make config-recursive" seems 
> appropriate for a first build/install of a port.
>
> But I think there is no perfect way to be sure of doing all "make config"s in 
> advance, since selectable options could require additional dependencies.
>
> If you try to portupgrade perl to 5.12 and everything that depends on it, as 
> advised in UPDATING file, date 20100715, you will likely get a lot of 
> configuration dialog screens: I speak from experience, would surely like a 
> way to do all these "make config"s at the beginning.
>
> Tom

Well, I'm not using portupgrade, but instead ports-mgmt/portmaster:

# portmaster --force-config --no-confirm [...] lang/perl5.12

Gets all of the config menus out of the way (--force-config), and
doesn't sit waiting for confirmation to proceed with install
(--no-confirm). I do this only the first time I build a port, or if I
need to change a config option and reinstall.

Works for me!

-Brandon
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ACPI & battery issues

2010-10-02 Thread Eitan Adler
I see
ACPI Exception: AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE, Returned by Handler for
[EmbeddedControl] (20100331/evregion-588)
ACPI Error (psparse-0633): Method parse/execution failed
[\\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.BAT1._BST] (Node 0xc6adba60),
AE_NO_HARDWARE_RESPONSE

repeatedly in dmesg

sysctl's relating to battery information is also slow:
% time sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state
hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
sysctl hw.acpi.battery.state  0.00s user 2.18s system 72% cpu 3.006 total

% time sysctl hw.acpi.battery
hw.acpi.battery.life: -1
hw.acpi.battery.time: -1
hw.acpi.battery.state: 7
hw.acpi.battery.units: 1
hw.acpi.battery.info_expire: 5
sysctl hw.acpi.battery  0.00s user 6.58s system 67% cpu 9.779 total

also note that the life and time are both negative one.

This is on a Lenovo G530 laptop.
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Re: USB disk on CS5536 unstable

2010-10-02 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Saturday 02 October 2010 14:44:07 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> On 09/30/10 21:38, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 September 2010 21:10:59 Anselm Strauss wrote:
> >> Maybe sending it to just the USB list was too specific ...
> >> 
> >> On 09/30/10 00:08, Anselm Strauss wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>> 
> >>> I have an ALIX board that has an AMD Geode and the CS5536 companion
> >>> chip with integrated USB on it. When I connect a USB disk I have
> >>> observed various problems. For example when I run fsck_ufs on a 250 GB
> >>> partition the process gets stuck in biord state and fsck reports
> >>> unreadable sectors. When I do a dd over the whole disk and direct it
> >>> to /dev/null it suddenly returns with no error, but having read only a
> >>> small fraction of the disk. I tried it with two different disks and
> >>> two different ALIX boards. I'm pretty sure the disks are okay since I
> >>> tried them on other hardware.
> >>> 
> >>> As far as I know there was some trouble with the chip regarding
> >>> timeouts. Under load after some time the USB just stops responding. I
> >>> have tried 8.0 and 8.1. Is there any known problem? How can I track
> >>> this down?
> >>> 
> >>> Anselm
> > 
> > If you compile the kernel with USB_DEBUG, then there are some sysctls
> > under hw.usb.ehci which you can tweak. Needs to be set before boot.
> > 
> > --HPS
> 
> Did not know that there were configurable bug workarounds in sysctl.
> When I set hw.usb.ehci.lostintrbug=1 in /boot/loader.conf the problems
> seem gone.
> 
> Without this setting I got the following kernel message when dd did abort:
> 
> ehci_timeout: xfer=0xc29cd3c8
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Anselm

Maybe you can report the PCI vendor ID and product so that we can add this 
quirk.

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 02), Thomas Mueller said:
> How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being
> interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports? 
> Idea is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just
> before bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance
> to recover from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).
> 
> Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is
> doing a dry run
> 
> portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
> 
> This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and
> avoid reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of
> those directories in the ports tree and run "make config".
> 
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would
> produce configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that
> are up-to-date.

config-recursive does a "config-conditional" for each dependency.  It should
only up a config dialog for an installed up-to-date port if the port
maintainer has added OPTIONS lines without bumping the portversion.  That
should be a rare occurance.

> I tried 
> 
> portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log

The -c flag is what you really wanted, I think.  -C reconfigures every port,
while -c calls "make config-conditional".
 
> but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that
> were up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage
> when trying to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but
> produced non-color garbage to the background.

Probably because you tee'd the output, so all the child processes see is a
pipe on stdout (and apps usually only try to do color and cursor positioning
on ttys).  With -n you're not building anything anyway, so there's really no
need to log the output.  Just run it without the tee, then run your regular
portupgrade later with tee.  Instead of using tee, I use
/usr/bin/script, which gives child processes a real tty to interact with, so
full-screen apps work correctly.

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Re: USB disk on CS5536 unstable

2010-10-02 Thread Anselm Strauss
On 09/30/10 21:38, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On Thursday 30 September 2010 21:10:59 Anselm Strauss wrote:
>> Maybe sending it to just the USB list was too specific ...
>>
>> On 09/30/10 00:08, Anselm Strauss wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have an ALIX board that has an AMD Geode and the CS5536 companion chip
>>> with integrated USB on it. When I connect a USB disk I have observed
>>> various problems. For example when I run fsck_ufs on a 250 GB partition
>>> the process gets stuck in biord state and fsck reports unreadable
>>> sectors. When I do a dd over the whole disk and direct it to /dev/null
>>> it suddenly returns with no error, but having read only a small fraction
>>> of the disk. I tried it with two different disks and two different ALIX
>>> boards. I'm pretty sure the disks are okay since I tried them on other
>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> As far as I know there was some trouble with the chip regarding
>>> timeouts. Under load after some time the USB just stops responding. I
>>> have tried 8.0 and 8.1. Is there any known problem? How can I track this
>>> down?
>>>
>>> Anselm
> 
> If you compile the kernel with USB_DEBUG, then there are some sysctls under 
> hw.usb.ehci which you can tweak. Needs to be set before boot.
> 
> --HPS

Did not know that there were configurable bug workarounds in sysctl.
When I set hw.usb.ehci.lostintrbug=1 in /boot/loader.conf the problems
seem gone.

Without this setting I got the following kernel message when dd did abort:

ehci_timeout: xfer=0xc29cd3c8


Thanks,
Anselm
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Re: 5.25" floppy drive

2010-10-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Christoph,
> In the end it turns out that the floppies that were lying in a drawer 
> for 19 years, are producing read errors.

Do NOT throw them out.
I have a tool that can rescue near all data.
http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/jhs/bin/public/valid/

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Re: Cache Memory in top command

2010-10-02 Thread Bas Smeelen
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From: Bas Smeelen [mailto:b.smee...@ose.nl]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:44:57 +0200
Subject: Re: Cache Memory in top command

On 09/30/2010 01:37 PM, RW wrote:
  > On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:24:58 +0200
  > Bas Smeelen  wrote:
  >
  >
  >   
  >> *Wired:* number of pages wired down, including cached file data pages
  >> 
  > That refers to buffer pages (displayed as Buf), which are a subset of
  > the cached file data pages.
  >
  > The pages in the cache queue are not specifically cached file data
  > pages, they are clean pages from any source, including pages that have
  > been written to swap.

  Thanks. I got this completely wrong, though I have read the FAQ a few years 
ago.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM
The values shown by top(1) labeled as Inact, Cache, and Buf are all cached data 
at different aging levels.  


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Re: 5.25" floppy drive

2010-10-02 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 10:50:00 +
Thomas Mueller  articulated:

> from "Christoph Kukulies" :
> 
> > Thanks to all.
> 
> > Solved.
> 
> > It was a multiple cause issue:
> 
> > 1st: BIOS Setting was incorrect (had to enable 1.2MB 5.25 rather
> > than 3.5 which was it set to - an oversight in the firts place,
> > that occured to me).
> 
> 
> > 2nd: Cable issue: I had a combined cable (3.5 " connector at the
> > end and edge connector second but last.
> 
> 
> > 3rd:  in combination with 2nd: DS0 jumper issue.
> 
> 
> > Anyway, I found a cable that had two edge connectors.
> 
> > In the end it turns out that the floppies that were lying in a
> > drawer for 19 years, are producing read errors. I also learnt about
> > fdcontrol. Floppy interface has changed significantly since Joerg
> > Wunsch and Bruce Evans worked on them in the early FreeBSD days
> > back in 1995 :)
> 
> 
> > --
> > Christoph
> 
> Congratulations on solving your floppy problem, but I can understand
> your problems with floppies.  They've gone bad with age for me too.
> I can read but not write, then I can't read and in most cases can't
> even reformat. 
> 
> FreeBSD installation sets structure (base.aa, base.ab, base.ac etc.)
> suggests that one could install from a big set of floppies, but
> there's no way I could get such a good set of floppies together.  I
> think my 5.25" floppies and drive hold out better than the 3.5"
> floppies and drives.

I had a similar problem last year on a Windows platform when a local
municipality asked to move the data from nearly 500 5.25 disks to CD.
The disks were in storage since mid 1990. I located an external 5.25
disk drive, they are dirt cheap, and attempted to copy the data. Like
you pointed out, the majority of the disks were severely damaged. I
finally settled on Spin-Rite  to
repair the disks. I had used it before and was familiar with its
workings. It took nearly a week for us to get the disks repaired and
copied; however, with only a couple of exceptions, the job ended
successfully. I cannot comment on 3.5 vs 5.25 disks, except to say
"good riddance" to both formats.

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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Elias Chrysocheris
On Saturday 02 of October 2010 13:27:00 Thomas Mueller wrote:
> How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being
> interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports? 
> Idea is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just
> before bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance
> to recover from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).
> 
> Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is
> doing a dry run
> 
> portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
> 
> This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and avoid
> reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of those
> directories in the ports tree and run "make config".
> 
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would
> produce configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that
> are up-to-date.
> 
> I tried
> 
> portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
> 
> but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that
> were up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage
> when trying to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but
> produced non-color garbage to the background.
> 
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would
> configure all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date and
> therefore not in need of portupgrading, though "make config-recursive"
> seems appropriate for a first build/install of a port.
> 
> But I think there is no perfect way to be sure of doing all "make config"s
> in advance, since selectable options could require additional
> dependencies.
> 
> If you try to portupgrade perl to 5.12 and everything that depends on it,
> as advised in UPDATING file, date 20100715, you will likely get a lot of
> configuration dialog screens: I speak from experience, would surely like a
> way to do all these "make config"s at the beginning.
> 
> Tom
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If you are sure that the default configuration settings are OK for you, then 
one way is to perform a portupgrade with the switches --batch --yes, like
portupgrade --batch --yes -a

This will assume that the default settings are those you like and will not ask 
you anything about configuration screens e.t.c.

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Re: 5.25" floppy drive

2010-10-02 Thread Thomas Mueller
from "Christoph Kukulies" :

> Thanks to all.

> Solved.

> It was a multiple cause issue:

> 1st: BIOS Setting was incorrect (had to enable 1.2MB 5.25 rather than 3.5 
> which was it set to - an oversight in the firts place, that occured to me).


> 2nd: Cable issue: I had a combined cable (3.5 " connector at the end and edge 
> connector second but last.


> 3rd:  in combination with 2nd: DS0 jumper issue.


> Anyway, I found a cable that had two edge connectors.

> In the end it turns out that the floppies that were lying in a drawer for 19 
> years, are producing read errors.
> I also learnt about fdcontrol. Floppy interface has changed significantly 
> since Joerg Wunsch and Bruce Evans
> worked on them in the early FreeBSD days back in 1995 :)


> --
> Christoph

Congratulations on solving your floppy problem, but I can understand your 
problems with floppies.  They've gone bad with age for me too.  I can read but 
not write, then I can't read and in most cases can't even reformat. 

FreeBSD installation sets structure (base.aa, base.ab, base.ac etc.) suggests 
that one could install from a big set of floppies, but there's no way I could 
get such a good set of floppies together.  I think my 5.25" floppies and drive 
hold out better than the 3.5" floppies and drives.


Tom
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Re: FreeBSD on Compaq mini CQ10 anyone?

2010-10-02 Thread Bernard Lecuire

 Le 02/10/2010 07:34, Gonzalo Nemmi a écrit :

El 26/09/2010 01:32 p.m., BernardL escribió:

Le 05/09/2010 06:04, Gonzalo Nemmi a écrit :

I just got one and was wondering if anyone was running FreeBSD on it
and how well does it work out of the box.
All comments are welcome.


I have one with FreeBSD 8.1. Some difficulties to install X11 (I had to
use Driver "vesa" instead of "intel" in the section "Device" of
xorg.config). And the internal Wifi device is not recognized by FreeBSD.
Regards
Bernard Lecuire


Hi there Bernard and thanks for your comment!

Can you tell me if suspend to ram (acpiconf -s3) works on the mini 
CQ10-120?, although I presume it doesn´t work that well, or at all, if 
you had to use "vesa" instead of the "intel" driver ... I would expect 
that would cause the screen not to come back after suspend and ACPI is 
my main concern in my netbook.


Are you loading the i915 driver in your /boot/loader.conf?

Thanks a lot and my best regards
Gonzalo Nemmi

Hi Gonzalo,
As you expect, the screen doesn't come back.
I didn't make any change to /boot/loader.conf.
Have a good day
Bernard Lecuire
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Re: Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread krad
On 2 October 2010 11:27, Thomas Mueller  wrote:

> How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being
> interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports?
>  Idea is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just
> before bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance to
> recover from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).
>
> Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is
> doing a dry run
>
> portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>
> This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and avoid
> reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of those
> directories in the ports tree and run "make config".
>
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would
> produce configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that are
> up-to-date.
>
> I tried
>
> portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log
>
> but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that
> were up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage
> when trying to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but
> produced non-color garbage to the background.
>
> Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would
> configure all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date and
> therefore not in need of portupgrading, though "make config-recursive" seems
> appropriate for a first build/install of a port.
>
> But I think there is no perfect way to be sure of doing all "make config"s
> in advance, since selectable options could require additional dependencies.
>
> If you try to portupgrade perl to 5.12 and everything that depends on it,
> as advised in UPDATING file, date 20100715, you will likely get a lot of
> configuration dialog screens: I speak from experience, would surely like a
> way to do all these "make config"s at the beginning.
>
> Tom
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have a look at portmaster. It gets all the config bits out of the way at the
start then starts the builds
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Massive portupgrade without being interrupted by configuration screens?

2010-10-02 Thread Thomas Mueller
How can one do a massive portupgrade, as with -r or -R, without being 
interrupted by options configuration screens for many individual ports?  Idea 
is to let it run unattended such as when I might run it starting just before 
bedtime.  Doing "make config" ahead of time also gives the chance to recover 
from a typo at the configuration screen (high risk).

Best thing I can think of is, using multimedia/ffmpeg as an example, is doing a 
dry run

portupgrade -Rn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log

This would show what other packages would need to be portupgraded and avoid 
reconfiguring up-to-date dependencies.  Then I would go to each of those 
directories in the ports tree and run "make config".

Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would produce 
configuration screens for all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date.

I tried 

portupgrade -RCn multimedia/ffmpeg |& tee -a wouldbe.log

but then I got all dependency configuration screens, including those that were 
up-to-date, and also the interface didn't work right: I got garbage when trying 
to respond; it didn't write to the configuration screen but produced non-color 
garbage to the background.

Running "make config-recursive" in /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg would configure 
all dependencies, including those that are up-to-date and therefore not in need 
of portupgrading, though "make config-recursive" seems appropriate for a first 
build/install of a port.

But I think there is no perfect way to be sure of doing all "make config"s in 
advance, since selectable options could require additional dependencies.

If you try to portupgrade perl to 5.12 and everything that depends on it, as 
advised in UPDATING file, date 20100715, you will likely get a lot of 
configuration dialog screens: I speak from experience, would surely like a way 
to do all these "make config"s at the beginning.

Tom
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Swap on ZFS

2010-10-02 Thread Anselm Strauss
Hi

I have a virtual server with only 512 MB of memory but still want to run
ZFS on it. When there is IO load and only few memory left it
occasionally happens that the server freezes, network ping will still
work. As far as I know there was the problem that an IO request on ZFS
first needs to allocate some memory before it can be run. So in the case
where no memory is left and some swap must be used which lies also on
ZFS, it would still first need some free memory for the request. This
basically results in a deadlock and the system freezes.

Would this not happen every time when the system is out of memory and
swap must be used? So it basically makes swap on ZFS useless.

Has there been any fix or workaround for this? I guess it does not help
when I use a swap file on ZFS instead of a separate zvol.

Appreciating any ideas
Anselm
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Re: BIND: could not configure root hints from 'named.root': file not found

2010-10-02 Thread krad
On 1 October 2010 21:16, CyberLeo Kitsana  wrote:

> On 10/01/2010 12:52 PM, Matthew wrote:
> > I would be grateful for any pointers on how to resolve this.  I suspect
> > the error message may not be exactly descriptive of whats happening.
>
> Kinda.
>
> Here's a few points to keep in mind when working with bind in FreeBSD:
>
> * By default, named runs in a chroot jail rooted at /var/named/.
>
> * For security reasons, named cannot write to anything in that tree,
> except the dynamic, slave, and working directories.
>
> * named uses its current working directory to resolve relative pathnames
> in the configuration file.
>
> * With a recent change to ISC Bind 9, named started complaining if it
> couldn't write to its current working directory. At the time, this was
> (chroot)/etc/namedb/; this was subsequently changed to
> (chroot)/etc/namedb/working/ to make named happy without compromising
> security.
>
> When the working directory for named was (chroot)/etc/namedb/,
> everything was peachy. Since this was changed, relative pathnames no
> longer work as expected because the reference point is different. The
> easiest solution is to alter your configuration file to include only
> absolute pathnames, relative to the root of the jail.
>
> The default named config file (in /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf) is
> an excellent source of examples for this.
>
> --
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Hmm,


options {
   directory".";

that doesnt look ideal. Not sure if you are meaning to do that but put an
explicit direcorty in eg /etc/namedb. Otherwise it will be looking in
whatever current directory you are in at that time. The main named.conf will
be found as its supplied via a cli switch by the rc script. However all
subsequent files will come from the current dir
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Re: 5.25" floppy drive

2010-10-02 Thread Christoph Kukulies

 Thanks to all.

Solved.

It was a multiple cause issue:

1st: BIOS Setting was incorrect (had to enable 1.2MB 5.25 rather than 
3.5 which was it set to - an oversight in the firts place, that occured 
to me).



2nd: Cable issue: I had a combined cable (3.5 " connector at the end and 
edge connector second but last.



3rd:  in combination with 2nd: DS0 jumper issue.


Anyway, I found a cable that had two edge connectors.

In the end it turns out that the floppies that were lying in a drawer 
for 19 years, are producing read errors.
I also learnt about fdcontrol. Floppy interface has changed 
significantly since Joerg Wunsch and Bruce Evans

worked on them in the early FreeBSD days back in 1995 :)


--
Christoph


Am 01.10.2010 19:18, schrieb Warren Block:

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Christoph Kukulies wrote:

I'm in the need of reading some data from old 5.25" floppy media 
(1.2MB).
I lent 2 drives from neighbour institutes at the university and after 
having recalled that the
floppies have to be enabled in the BIOS I'm now seeing the fd0 device 
in dmesg (FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE).


I can do a dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/root/fd0.dmp

The select light is lit, the head motor seems to get power but the 
spindle doesn't spin.


Possibly a drive select issue.  Some drives had jumpers or switches, 
some cables have flipped-around wires so the connectors are specific 
to one drive or another.  If your cabling is straight-through with no 
funny business at the connectors, set the drive to DS0.  If the cable 
has split out and flipped-over sections, DS1 should be set in the 
jumpers --but then it depends on which connector is used.  ...I think, 
anyway, it's been a few years since I've had to use a 5.25.



I tried that with two TEAC drives to no avail.

Any clues what I may have forgotten? The drive is connected with the 
edge connector and the end is open.

Does it need to be terminated?


None that I've seen.
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Re: Updating bzip2 to remove potential security vulnerability

2010-10-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 01/10/2010 21:59:40, Jerry wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:14:20 -0500
> Dan Nelson  articulated:
> 
>> You must have missed 
>> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-10:08.bzip2.asc ;
>> patches for 6, 7, and 8 are available there, and freebsd-update has
>> fixed binaries if you use that.
> 
> Never saw it. So I am assuming that simply using something like:
> 
> csup -L2 -h cvsup.FreeBSD.org "/usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile"
> 
> Then rebuild Kernel & World is not going to work. Is that correct?

Not correct.  csup(1) /after/ the date that fixes are published will
obtain sources that contain the fixes on all affected and supported
branches, including 8-STABLE and 9-CURRENT which aren't covered by
freebsd-update(8).  This will be documented in the security advisory,
where they list the revision numbers (both SVN and CVS) at which the
fixes were applied.

You don't need to /both/ apply patches and use csup -- csup already
contains the result of applying the patches.  Patches are an alternative
to csup, but the intended audience there is typically people running
either heavily customized variants of the OS or installations with
severely limited bandwidth or restricted internet connectivity.  The
majority of users should be using the standard update mechanisms -- csup
or freebsd-update.

Obviously, you will have to compile[*] and install the fixed software.
Going through a full buildworld cycle will certainly do that, but in
most cases you can achieve the required result by rebuilding and
reinstalling significantly smaller chunks of the system.  Again,
procedures to do this should be described in the security advisory,
together with any other requirements (eg. that you would have to reboot
your system where there are significant changes to the kernel, or even
to ubiquitous bits like libc.so.)

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Unless you're using freebsd-update, of course.

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