Re: ftp installation

2011-06-12 Thread Bill Tillman






From: Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org
To: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 8:50:48 PM
Subject: Re: ftp installation



On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote:

 I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with both
 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation proceeds
 for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on the console
 always being:

  DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.

...

 Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see a way to
 monitor what is happening.

 Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want to
 read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the bottom
 of the page):
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-media.html


Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the 
command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in sysinstall
does fix the problem.

Thank you
Daniel Feenberg
NBER


If I recall correctly I had to open up my firewall completely to get the ftp 
installations to work. I use a FreeBSD diskless router running IPFW+NATD and 
the 
log files are set to max out at 5 so I can't see which port is trying to be 
used 
which gets blocked. So just for the 10 minutes or so to do an FTP install I 
just 
open the firewall wide and allow any to any. Once the install is complete I 
close the firewall again.
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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Bill Tillman


From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net
To: John or Judy Hixson johnorj...@earthlink.net; 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 8:24:23 PM
Subject: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

--As of June 10, 2011 4:26:27 PM -0700, John or Judy Hixson is alleged to have 
said:

 I'm having trouble getting Xorg to run on my just recently installed
 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE(i386) system. I'm trying to follow the procedures in
 Sections 5.3 and 5.4 of the Handbook and can't seem to get startx to
 fire up; I get a black screen when I try. Here's what I've done so far:

--As for the rest, it is mine.

Weird question: Have you installed xterm yet?  Without a window manager 
configured, startx will try to open X with a single xterm window.  (At least, 
as 
installed from ports, I believe.)  I'm not sure what it would do if it couldn't 
find xterm, but a blank black screen sounds possible...

If I'm right, Xorg is _running,_ you just haven't started any programs in it.  
Which you might be able to see if you ssh'd into the box.  If so, you could 
kill 
Xorg and get your terminal back on your standard terminal.

Daniel T. Staal

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I have installed and configured Xorg many times on several different machines. 
When it installs it comes with twm (Trivial Window Manager) which is the 
default, no frills window manager. It should have installed with the Xorg port. 
If you installed via pkg_add I can't say for sure that tvw installs by default, 
but using the ports it will. Without a window manager, you will see nothing but 
a black graphics screen when you run startx.

There are loads of other windows managers and choices for desktop. I am a big 
believer in the KISS method and prefer not to add in all the overhead that 
comes 
with KDE or GNOME and I just use tvm. I can open any application and it looks 
fine, I can open several Xterm windows with it and spread them across my dual 
monitor setup. It just works for me but I'm sure others will toot their horns 
for KDE and GNOME, etc...
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Re: Query about FreeBSD and primary partitions requirements

2011-06-12 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 366, Issue 8, Message: 5
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:23:48 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
  
   On 11/06/2011 08:18, Bret Busby wrote:
the current FreeBSD Handbook ... states
FreeBSD must be installed into a primary partition.

However, in the last couple of days, I have been advised that
FreeBSD can be installed in, and, quite happily runs in, a
logical partition within an extended partition.

Has anyone other than the person who advised me of that, tested
the installation and operation of FreeBSD, within a logical
patition of an extended partition ...?
  
   FreeBSD can mount and use filesystems created on partitions inside
   'extended partition' type slices (cue standard exposition of the
   difference between partitions and slices in FreeBSD-speak.)  True.
  
   However, I believe that you may well have difficulty *booting*
   FreeBSD unless the kernel (ie. /boot) can be read from a primary
   partition.
  
  I presume the purpose of boot0ext.S is to build a boot0 (FreeBSD MBR)
  variant capable of booting from what MS call an extended partition
  -- boot0.S being used when booting from a primary partition -- but
  I've never tried to use it.  I'm having enough fun trying to boot
  from a _different_ unusual configuration.

Diffing boot0.S and boot0ext.S shows the latter to be a two-sector (1KB) 
boot with more detailed strings about different partition types, some 
difference in SIO code, support for 'BIOS EDD extensions' and CHS vs LBA 
(ie, older stuff) but nothing I could spot towards decoding 'extended 
partitions'; it seems from CVS logs to have been kept as a nod to jhk's 
original 2-sector boot0 code, and hasn't been touched for 7 years.

Having run OS/2 for several years before moving to FreeBSD in '98 I had 
to learn about mounting 'drives' within 'extended partitions' as adXs5, 
adXs6 etc, to recover about 7 OS/2 filesystems from 2 disks.  Last I 
looked the HPFS code was still in the tree, only needing compiling; very
similar to the (old) NTFS code by the same author, it worked fine R/O.

Anyway, space allocation within the 'extended partition' is implemented 
as a linked list, so booting from one of these used to need something 
like OS/2's boot manager (itself consuming a small primary partition) or 
GRUB ono to chase down and load the desired boot partition, assuming you 
managed from the command line to newfs it as UFS in the first place (?)

   Also, I don't think sysinstall(8) groks extended partitions very
   well,
  
  if at all ...

Not at all; sysinstall just sees it as a primary partition (ie FreeBSD 
slice) of type 0x05 (IIRC) ie as a non-bootable partition, completely 
ignored by boot0{,ext} or any 'normal' MBR code for that matter .. the 
FreeBSD convention of naming these as s5 etc is a convenient fiction.

   so you will probably have some fun doing the actual installation.
  
  Indeed.

Best left as an exercise for the (morbidly curious) student :)

cheers, Ian
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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:
 I have installed and configured Xorg many times on several different 
 machines. 
 When it installs it comes with twm (Trivial Window Manager) [ ... ]

twm doesn't stand for Trivial Window Manager-- it stands for Tom's Window 
Manager because it was written by Tom LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware 
back around X11R1.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:25:02 -0700, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
 On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:
  I have installed and configured Xorg many times on several different 
  machines. 
  When it installs it comes with twm (Trivial Window Manager) [ ... ]
 
 twm doesn't stand for Trivial Window Manager-- it stands
 for Tom's Window Manager because it was written by Tom
 LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware back around X11R1.

Without any further investigation and research, my
brain seems to remember that is's (also?) called
Tab Window Manager. Is my brain wrong here? :-)


-- 
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Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:
 twm doesn't stand for Trivial Window Manager-- it stands for Tom's Window 
 Manager because it was written by Tom LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware 
 back around X11R1.

Stood for, you mean.  It evolved to Tab Window Manager, and now it is
Timeless Window Manager according to the source code:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/twm/
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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Polytropon wrote:
 twm doesn't stand for Trivial Window Manager-- it stands
 for Tom's Window Manager because it was written by Tom
 LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware back around X11R1.
 
 Without any further investigation and research, my
 brain seems to remember that is's (also?) called
 Tab Window Manager. Is my brain wrong here? :-)

I went by wikipedia to double-check.

I'm right about the original name.  At some point after twm was included in the 
X11 core distribution, later developers decided to rename it to Tab Window 
Manager because they'd changed so much code.  (If they'd done it with Tom's 
OK, then I don't have any concern; if they'd just renamed it themselves without 
discussion with the original author, well, I'd find that a bit tacky.)

I remember switching from uwm? to twm around 1990 and finding the later vastly 
more tolerable.  But I also largely switched from X11 to Display Postscript on 
NEXTSTEP or Sun's OpenWin (X11+Motif+DPS extension, IIRC) around then.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg

2011-06-12 Thread Bill Tillman






From: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com
To: Polytropon free...@edvax.de
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 2:43:16 PM
Subject: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg



I stand corrected. Tab Window Manager it iseither way, I use it because 
it's 
just plain simple and I don't really need all the whistles and bells that come 
with the other WM's. I'm still stuck with using Windows because all my business 
is conducted there and it's got all the bells and whistles one would need.

On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Polytropon wrote:
 twm doesn't stand for Trivial Window Manager-- it stands
 for Tom's Window Manager because it was written by Tom
 LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 hardware back around X11R1.
 
 Without any further investigation and research, my
 brain seems to remember that is's (also?) called
 Tab Window Manager. Is my brain wrong here? :-)

I went by wikipedia to double-check.

I'm right about the original name.  At some point after twm was included in the 
X11 core distribution, later developers decided to rename it to Tab Window 
Manager because they'd changed so much code.  (If they'd done it with Tom's 
OK, 
then I don't have any concern; if they'd just renamed it themselves without 
discussion with the original author, well, I'd find that a bit tacky.)

I remember switching from uwm? to twm around 1990 and finding the later vastly 
more tolerable.  But I also largely switched from X11 to Display Postscript on 
NEXTSTEP or Sun's OpenWin (X11+Motif+DPS extension, IIRC) around then.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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FreeBSD on IBM 3630

2011-06-12 Thread Peter Toth
Anyone is running IBM 3630 out there with FreeBSD?

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Squeezebox Server 7.6 failed to load: YAML::Syck

2011-06-12 Thread Carl Chave
I'm running FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 and use Squeezebox Server (v7.5.1, r30836,
Tue Jun  1 07:00:00 MDT 2010).  Squeezebox Server 7.6 has experimental
native support for UPnP media renderers (of which I have many) and I
wanted to try it out.  I downloaded the latest tarball and when I run
slimserver.pl I get the following error:



The following modules failed to load: YAML::Syck


***

NOTE:

If you're running some unsupported Linux/Unix platform, please use the
buildme.sh
script located here:

http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.6/trunk/vendor/CPAN/

If 7.6 is outdated by the time you read this, Replace 7.6 with the
major version
You should never need to do this if you're on Windows or Mac OSX. If
the installers
don't work for you, ask for help and/or report a bug.

of Squeezebox Server you are running.

***


Exiting..

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The version of Perl seems to be OK:

sodserve# perl -v

This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for amd64-freebsd

When I install /usr/ports/textproc/p5-YAML-Syck it's supposedly
already installed:

===  Installing for p5-YAML-Syck-1.17
===   p5-YAML-Syck-1.17 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.10.1 - found
===   Generating temporary packing list
===  Checking if textproc/p5-YAML-Syck already installed
===   p5-YAML-Syck-1.17 is already installed

cpan install gives me:

YAML::Syck is up to date (1.17)

I'm not really sure what else to check.  Can someone point me in the
right direction?

Carl
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