upgrade of portupgrade to 2.4.9,2

I did a portupgrade on a freebsd 8.2-RELEASE of the portupgrade program itself portupgrade-2.4.8_1,2 < needs updating (index has 2.4.9,2) (that upgraded also ruby to 1.9: ... ===> Cleaning for ruby-1.9.2.290,1 ===> Cleaning for ruby19-bdb-0.6.6 ===> Cleaning for libffi-3.0.9 ===>

Re: ZFS and NFS or CIFS

On 8/19/2011 4:05 PM, Henry M wrote: > Hi Chris, > > If you are transferring data from a Windows machine, your best bet would > be to use SAMBA. Windows communicates with samba pretty easily. You > essentially just mount a network drive, and transfer the files you want. > > Here are a few links t

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 05:12:19PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > "Duane" == Duane Hill writes: > > Duane> Saturday, August 20, 2011, 6:23:05 PM, wrote: > >> Le Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500, > >> Dave Pooser a écrit : > > >>> An honest question here-- how many people run production

Re: A quality operating system

Hello. ;=) Thanks for the comments.. :=) No, I am curious what they decided to use that covers all the points , at least better that FreeBSD. Seriously I would like to see or hear about the comparison chart between all OSs. And a question arrive to my mind... if for some reason, I know i

RE: A quality operating system

--As of August 20, 2011 7:01:07 PM -0700, Carl G Smith is alleged to have said: I have heard that the OS X OS is based on FreeBSD. Is this true? --As for the rest, it is mine. Partially. It combines a mostly Mach kernel with some FreeBSD-derived userland and interfaces, then adds a proprie

Re: A quality operating system

On Saturday 20 August 2011 19:47:07 Fish Kungfu wrote: > Meanwhile, the OP has run away giggling like a juvenile who just threw a > rock at a hornets nest. > You bet! The OP (and Rob) were probably just bored, but Vadim Goncharov was definetly NOT! (Thanks Test Rat!)

RE: A quality operating system

-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Antonio Olivares Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:06 PM To: Evan Busch Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A quality operating system > All of this adds up t

Re: A quality operating system

I use FreeBSD 9, 8.2 and 8.1. OS X 10.7 (Lion) Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), Windows Vista Ultimate (64-bit) and Windows XP Professional (32-bit). iOS 4, Blackberry 6 and Android 2.2.2. Oh, you weren't asking me. Sorry. :-p On Aug 20, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello. > > I

Re: A quality operating system

Hello. I insist Can we know what was the OS you all decided to use ? Thanks Jorge Biquez ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-question

Re: A quality operating system

> All of this adds up to a quality operating system in theory that does > not translate into quality in reality. > > You alienate users and place the burden upon them to sort through your > mess, then sneer at them. > > You alienate business, professional and artistic users with your > insistence o

Re: A quality operating system

> "Duane" == Duane Hill writes: Duane> Saturday, August 20, 2011, 6:23:05 PM, wrote: >> Le Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500, >> Dave Pooser a écrit : >>> An honest question here-- how many people run production servers on >>> RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8

Re: Alternative windowmanagers

Hi, On Saturday 06 August 2011 02:12:14 Christian Barthel wrote: > > I read on slashdot that Linus Torvalds moved from Gnome 2.3x to Xfce. It > seems that he isn't thrilled by xfce, but it's far better than Gnome3. > what else can he do? He already wrote a kernel for them. Should he now also w

Re: A quality operating system

Saturday, August 20, 2011, 6:23:05 PM, wrote: > Le Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500, > Dave Pooser a écrit : >> An honest question here-- how many people run production servers on >> RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8.1 >> and then 8.2. > Me! Because "if it works,

Re: A quality operating system

Le Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:46:58 -0500, Dave Pooser a écrit : > An honest question here-- how many people run production servers on > RELEASE, never mind BETA? Mine has been running on STABLE, first 8.1 > and then 8.2. Me! Because "if it works, don't break it.". _

Re: A quality operating system

Meanwhile, the OP has run away giggling like a juvenile who just threw a rock at a hornets nest. On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Dave Pooser > wrote: > > > On 8/20/11 1:09 PM, "Michael Sierchio" wrote: > > > > >Are you lazy, or stupid?

Re: A quality operating system

On 8/20/11 4:38 PM, "Adam Vande More" wrote: >freebsd-update works quite well and quickly on systems with a custom >kernel with the additional caveat you *should* rebuild and install the >kernel afterward, and even this isn't always necessary. This is assuming >you're on RELEASE or some BETA. A

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: > On 8/20/11 1:09 PM, "Michael Sierchio" wrote: > > >Are you lazy, or stupid? man freebsd-update > > You know, someone more clever than you might have read enough of the > message to realize that since I specifically referenced DTrace support a

Re: A quality operating system

On 8/20/11 1:09 PM, "Michael Sierchio" wrote: >Are you lazy, or stupid? man freebsd-update You know, someone more clever than you might have read enough of the message to realize that since I specifically referenced DTrace support as a FreeBSD advantage, I would have to be using a custom kernel

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Polytropon wrote: > That's correct. The freebsd-update program is _not_ to be used > for few specific cases, i. e. the OS version is a -STABLE or > even -CURRENT one, or the user is running a non-GENERIC kernel. > In such cases, updating from source is inteded, as

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:22:45 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:09:53 -0700 > Michael Sierchio articulated: > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Pooser > > wrote: > > > > > 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, > > > but that I *have* to is ridicul

Re: A quality operating system

--As of August 20, 2011 4:22:45 PM -0400, Jerry is alleged to have said: I have never wasted my time with it personally; however, I thought I read somewhere that it did not work if the user had built a custom kernel. From what I have seen written regarding it, you have to move the custom kernel

Re: amarok doesn't support id3v2?

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:10:01 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:22:28 +0200 > Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > > I suspect taglib uses id3v2.4 whereas id3lib (used by id3v2 port) > > only supports id3v2.3. > > Ah, interesting. Hadn't considered such a possibility. > > Stil

trouble with ports

$ uname -a FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #123: Wed Aug 17 19:23:26 PDT 2011 r...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIBERTAS amd64 Last Monday when I had the problem with panics that Attilio's patch seems to have solved, my syste

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:09:53 -0700 Michael Sierchio articulated: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Pooser > wrote: > > > 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, > > but that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be > > more difficult than "yum

Re: A quality operating system

--As of August 20, 2011 12:12:00 PM -0500, Dave Pooser is alleged to have said: 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more difficult than "yum update" -- full stop. --As for the rest, it is mine.

Re: How much memory does ZFS use?

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Yuri wrote: > Someone told me that ZFS is a memory hog and it should be avoided as such. > Is this true? > A rather ridiculous statement you were told and full of ignorance in my opinion. The 1908 Ford Model T got 25 MPG and my 2006 Mazda Speed6 gets about 21 on

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:12:00PM -0500, Dave Pooser wrote: > > 1) I really don't see the Handbook as all that great. It's great that a > volunteer team put it together, but when I compare it to > or >

Re: How much memory does ZFS use?

On 08/20/2011 11:45, Gary Gatten wrote: Zfs isn't a typical daemon/process. That's like saying databased is a memory hog cause it needs a lot of ram for caching. I know it's a kernel module. Zfs ram requirements will depend on your file system i/o load, types/sizes of files, types and rate

Re: A quality operating system

+10 I really like ppl thinking, that someone will create/develop/maitain an OS just for them. There are hundreds of chocices: OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, + forks, Windoze, hundreds (and growing) of different linux distros, Solaris, Minix, vxworks, even MSDOS :) Feel free to choose. If there will be

Re: A quality operating system

Allos me to share some individual thoughts. Note that those are _my own_ and maybe do _not_ apply to anyone else. Still they may be helpful for inspiration, and just if it's only a different point of view. On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:47:04 -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > He asked me a question that stopped

Re: A quality operating system Trolling For A Quality Operating System

On Aug 20, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Evan Busch wrote: > Hi, > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a quandary. > Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD. > > What is odd abou

Re: A quality operating system

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:47:04PM -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a quandary. > Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD. > > What is odd

Re: How much memory does ZFS use?

Zfs isn't a typical daemon/process. That's like saying databased is a memory hog cause it needs a lot of ram for caching. Zfs ram requirements will depend on your file system i/o load, types/sizes of files, types and rates of file system ops, etc. 512MB may be fine, or you may need 4GB for opt

How much memory does ZFS use?

Someone told me that ZFS is a memory hog and it should be avoided as such. Is this true? How can I understand how much memory particular kernel module consumes? In Solaris there is mdb for that, what is an equivalent in FreeBSD? Yuri ___ freebsd-questio

Re: Enabling gjournal without destroying a filesystem?

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:48:33 +0200 Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > > Anyway there was no other way to avoid a long fsck (until SU+Journal > in 9.0). Speaking of SU+J: I do happen to be running 9.0-BETA1, and am seeing output from fsck where it at first appears it's going to take advantage of journa

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Dave Pooser wrote: > 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but > that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more > difficult than "yum update" -- full stop. Are you lazy, or stupid? man freebsd-update _

Re: A quality operating system

My comments inline. Summary: utter rubbish. On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Evan Busch wrote: > (1) Lack of direction. > > FreeBSD is still not sure whether it is a desktop OS, or a server OS. Not at all the case. FreeBSD is a server OS. Desktop features get considerably less support. Muc

Re: A quality operating system

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:47:04 -0500 Evan Busch wrote: > Hi, > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with > me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a quandary. > Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD. Ron must be a

Re: A quality operating system

On 8/20/11 1:49 AM, "Test Rat" wrote: >There is an ongoing discussion on arch@ about this. > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch/2011-August/011412.html Thanks for posting that link; it covered some of the reasons I'm retiring my office FreeBSD servers in favor of Solaris and Linu

Re: amarok doesn't support id3v2?

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:22:28 +0200 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wednesday 17 August 2011 07:49:13 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > > I made a rather startling discovery tonight while playing with > > amarok 1.4.10 and the id3v2 port. It seems that if I modify an MP3 > > files's id3 tags in amarok, it d

gnome-open won't open my browser

gnome-open is the program that opens your browser when you click on a link in gnome-terminal. Except that recently it's started opening Gedit, the gnome text editor, instead. I have triple super checked to be absolutely sure that the preferred web browser application is my browser (chrome). Sinc

Re: A quality operating system

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:47:04PM -0500, Evan Busch wrote: > Hi, > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a quandary. > Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD. > > What

Re: A quality operating system

Hello. Very interesting... let's see the answers from the experts By the way maybe answer me off topic... so then what was your choice of OS? Jorge Biquez At 11:47 p.m. 19/08/2011, you wrote: Hi, I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with me. Talking

SV: A quality operating system

Happy Trolling :-) /Hasse -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] På vegne af Evan Busch Sendt: den 20 augusti 2011 06:47 Til: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Emne: A quality operating system Hi, I make decisions about

Re: BHyve

On 19/08/2011 16:01, Net Warrior wrote: > Hi > Does anyone know if there is any progress on this project or how can I > track/test it? > It was imported into svn http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/projects/bhyve_ref/ so you could check it out and have a try ;) I'm hoping to hear that its being ported

make release always fails

It looks that I am compiling wrong TAG, somehow. I have RELENG_8 sup file: *default host=cvsup3.ua.FreeBSD.org *default base=/share/freebsd/cvsup *default prefix=/share/freebsd/RELENG_8 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all And CVS supfile: *default host=cvsup6.

Re: Redirect sound of flash plugin?

On Friday 12 August 2011 17:15:04 Ross wrote: > Is it possible to redirect sound of flash plugin? > > I am running firefox via ssh. Currently I successfully redirected > sound of other applications using NAS. How can I do the same with > flash? Maybe intercept sound some how. The flash plugin sou

pf nat with pool addresses

Hi all, I am trying to use pf nat rules with pool support on FreeBsd 8.0, working together with ipfw as the main firewall. According to the natting concepts i faced in manuals and docs, nat concept is to map the source address to the natted address when sending the packets from that source and the

Re: A quality operating system

On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 23:47:04 -0500 Evan Busch wrote: > Hi, > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work > with me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a > quandary. Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against > FreeBSD. > > What is

Re: BHyve

On 08/19/11 18:46, Brandon Gooch wrote: > On Aug 19, 2011 10:29 AM, "Net Warrior" wrote: >> >> Hi >> Does anyone know if there is any progress on this project or how can I > track/test it? >> >> Thanks you- >> Regards >> > > I'm interested in this as well, and I'm hoping that after 9.0 is out the

Re: amarok doesn't support id3v2?

On Wednesday 17 August 2011 07:49:13 Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > I made a rather startling discovery tonight while playing with amarok > 1.4.10 and the id3v2 port. It seems that if I modify an MP3 files's > id3 tags in amarok, it deletes any existing id3v2 tags, leaving only > id3v1 tags on the fi

Re: A quality operating system

Perhaps you would be happier at an Apple Store. I lost you at documentation. Obviously you have not read the handbook, or one of the excellent books -- Absolute BSD for example. -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/openslate Twitter @openslate

Re: A quality operating system

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 07:47, Evan Busch wrote: > Hi, > > I make decisions about hardware and software for those who work with me. > > Talking with my second in command this morning, we reached a quandary. > Ron is completely pro-Linux and pro-Windows, and against FreeBSD. > > What is odd about