Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
 uname -a
 FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
 15:23:56 CST 2011
 r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
 
 I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
 
 
 Any suggestion is appreciated!
 

This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.

For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.

You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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Re: Delete files let FreeBSD crashes.

2012-02-28 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/28/12 8:11 AM, netroby wrote:
 i installed freebsd 9 on virtualbox, when i try to delete a directory
 with following command:
 
 rm -rf ./zf2
 
 the system will halt , then restart.
 
 i had using fsck -y to check the filesystem, but seems not work.
 
 following the output:
 

*** HALT ***

You're not running fsck on a MOUNTED device are you ?

If you are, kindly stop doing so to prevent damage to your system.
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Re: find not traversing all directories on a single zfs file system

2012-02-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/02/2012 02:21, Robert Banfield wrote:
 I have some additional information that I didnt see before actually
 digging into the log file.  It is quite interesting.  There are 82,206
 subdirectories in one of the folders.  Like this:
 
 /zfs_mount/directoryA/token[1-82206]/various_tileset_files
 
 When looking at the output of find, here is what I see:
 
 Lines 1-9996943: The output of find, good as good can be
 Lines 9996944-10062479:  Subdirectory entries only, it traversed none of
 them.
 
 Notice 10062479-9996944+1 = 65536 = 2^16
 
 So, of the 82206 subdirectories, the first 82206-2^16 were traversed,
 and the final 2^16 were not.  The plot thickens...

Now this is very interesting indeed.  80,000 subdirectories is quite a
lot..  As is a grand total of more than 10,000,000 files.

Hmmm... and you see the find problem just when searching within the
structure under directoryA?  I think you have found a bug, although
whether it is in find(1), the filesystem or elsewhere is not clear.
Given that 'ls -R' shows the same problem, the bug could be in fts(3).

Still, that's a testable hypothesis.  Let me see if I can reproduce the
problem.

Cheers,

Matthew

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posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I'm putting together a small presentation
about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.

Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?

The info here is a bit out of date:

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html

Thanks

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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Da Rock

On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

I'm putting together a small presentation
about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.

Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?

The info here is a bit out of date:

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html

Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column.
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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I'm putting together a small presentation
 about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.
 
 Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?
 
 The info here is a bit out of date:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html
 Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x column.

Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.

Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
I guess that's the aim, isn't it?


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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +
Anton Shterenlikht articulated:

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
  I'm putting together a small presentation
  about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.
  
  Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?
  
  The info here is a bit out of date:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html
  Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x
  column.
 
 Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.
 
 Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
 how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
 I guess that's the aim, isn't it?

The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple
indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option
of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and
including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group
or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more
impressive I'll leave up to you.

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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +
 Anton Shterenlikht articulated:
 
  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
   I'm putting together a small presentation
   about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.
   
   Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?
   
   The info here is a bit out of date:
   
   http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html
   Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x
   column.
  
  Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.
  
  Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
  how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
  I guess that's the aim, isn't it?
 
 The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple
 indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option
 of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and
 including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group
 or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more
 impressive I'll leave up to you.

sorry to be a pain.

Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete?

Does the above page include all tasks
that need to be completed? In other words,
if all tasks on the above page are ticked,
does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance,
or is it not that simple?

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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Da Rock

On 02/28/12 21:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +
Anton Shterenlikht articulated:


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

I'm putting together a small presentation
about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.

Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?

The info here is a bit out of date:

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html

Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x
column.

Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.

Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
I guess that's the aim, isn't it?

The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple
indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option
of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and
including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group
or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more
impressive I'll leave up to you.

sorry to be a pain.

Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete?

Does the above page include all tasks
that need to be completed? In other words,
if all tasks on the above page are ticked,
does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance,
or is it not that simple?

As I understand it, the ticks stand for completed.

There are other measures on there that say 1/2, or not started, or 
unable to until another is completed.


The legend is closer to the bottom of the page.
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FreeBsd Beginner

2012-02-28 Thread shanib.k.k

HI,

Hi am a Ruby on rails developer. I have done a project in ROR and 
currently its hosted in Ubuntu.Now the requires it to be changed to 
FreeBSD. As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about 
how can configure or install it.


Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How  can i install FreeBSD in 
my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly...


Expecting Your Response

Shanib.k.k
ROR Developer
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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Blackman

On 28 Feb 2012, at 11:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 
 sorry to be a pain.
 
 Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete?


Depending on how you weight the various items of POSIX compliance,
a finger-in-the-air guess would be around 90%, but I think only
the -hackers list can give you a good answer.

It's probably instructive to compare to various other OSes level
of compliance as well (for your presentation).

- Mark
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even branches 
until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here runs 8.3 and 
will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.

But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade from 
6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got dropped.

Erich

On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 
 On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
  uname -a
  FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
  15:23:56 CST 2011
  r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
  
  I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
  
  
  Any suggestion is appreciated!
  
 
 This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can answer.
 
 For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
 lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
 time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
 
 You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
 they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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Re: FreeBsd Beginner

2012-02-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/02/2012 05:43, shanib.k.k wrote:
 Hi am a Ruby on rails developer. I have done a project in ROR and
 currently its hosted in Ubuntu.Now the requires it to be changed to
 FreeBSD. As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about
 how can configure or install it.

The best place to start is by reading the Handbook.  Here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

One thing that may surprise you is that FreeBSD itself is just the OS
kernel, the core libraries and a number of command-line utilities.  If
you want a windowing system, then you'll need to install one from ports.
 Similarly, you'll need to install Ruby and all the other gubbins to
make your RoR applications work, but the ports makes that pretty easy.

Alternatively, you might find PC-BSD easier to get along with.  This is
a fully featured desktop system built around FreeBSD but with all the
usual sort of desktop applications already included.  Get it here:

http://www.pcbsd.org/

As it's FreeBSD underneath, it makes a good system to learn about
FreeBSD before setting up a pure FreeBSD server.

 Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How  can i install FreeBSD in
 my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly...

You can install FreeBSD as a guest OS in a virtualization system quite
readily.  It works pretty well with most VMs -- VirtualBox is known to
work well, and it's free but whatever you're used to should be fine.

Alternatively you can download a DVD or USB MemStick image, and boot
from that as a live-system without trashing whatever you already have
installed.

If you can free up a disk, or a partition (about 5GB is the absolute
minimum needed for a useful system, but more is better), then you can
install FreeBSD there and make your machine dual boot.

Or you can just blow away whatever is on the machine already and start
from ground-zero with nothing but FreeBSD.  I wouldn't recommend this
unless you are quite well versed in FreeBSD already, as otherwise you'll
find it quite frustrating before you learn the ropes, and your
productivity will nosedive as you do that...

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Jerome Herman

On 28/02/2012 12:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +
Anton Shterenlikht articulated:


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

I'm putting together a small presentation
about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.

Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?

The info here is a bit out of date:

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html

Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x
column.

Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.

Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
I guess that's the aim, isn't it?

The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple
indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option
of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and
including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group
or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more
impressive I'll leave up to you.

sorry to be a pain.

Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete?

Does the above page include all tasks
that need to be completed? In other words,
if all tasks on the above page are ticked,
does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance,
or is it not that simple?

It is not that simple, POSIX is more a set of norms than a norm by 
itself. There are Posix aspects that are not in FreeBSD and probably 
never will be, other aspects that do exist in FreeBSD but you should 
definitly not use them as they are painfull to use or flawed or both 
(Posix capabilities for exemple). Also there are systems that do support 
a fair part of Posix, but which are just a pain to use in a Posix 
compatible environment, basically requiring you to code quite a lot of 
tools to have a Posix environment. Basically Windows Server supports 
quite a good deal of Posix norms, and it works well for small projects 
or simple programs, but if you want to create a Posix compliant 
distributed datastore you are in for a hell of a ride. Linux is becoming 
basically the same, in that more and more core system tools have 
dependencies on Linux specific API. (And I won't talk about MacOS X)
A good way of making a presentation would be to first look at what 
aspects of Posix you need and try to find out where these aspect are 
best supported.
Now a simple and true enough answer would be to say that FreeBSD has one 
of the broader _and most usable_ Posix support, second only to Solaris. 
(Way better than AIX and on par with HP-UX in my humble opinion). It is 
mostly true in the sense that FreeBSD does support quite a lot of Posix 
norms including the latest ones. It is false int the sense that AIX, 
HP-UX IRIX and quite alot of others have a 100% certified compliance for 
some (quite old now) Posix norms.  CF :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#BSD_descendants

At one point FreeBSD was very close to be fully Posix compliant with 
norm 1.e, then norm 1.e was more or less thrown out the windows, and 
posix norming system pretty much imploded at this time.


So basically it is quite hard to answer without first knowing exactly 
why you need Posix compliance. It is also worth noting that porting an 
application from one fully compliant OS to another is not always easier 
than porting from that OS to a non compliant one. Quite a lot of 
problems can arise in slightly different interpretations of the norm, 
and quite a lot of assumption that are correct under one system will 
require carefull tweaking and lib binding in another.
Another thing that is worth noting is that Posix norming system is 
dying, I do not know of one system that has compliance above UNIX03, a 
norm written in 2001...

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Re: posix compliance

2012-02-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Jerome Herman wrote:
 On 28/02/2012 12:32, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:25:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:03:23 +
 Anton Shterenlikht articulated:
 
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:46:51PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On 02/28/12 19:17, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 I'm putting together a small presentation
 about FreeBSD for our IT support staff.
 
 Is fbsd POSIX compliant? Fully? Partially?
 
 The info here is a bit out of date:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/projects/c99/index.html
 Looking at the doc its not that out of date. Just check the 9.x
 column.
 Oh.. I see. I only looked in the top table.
 
 Still, I don't get an idea from the table of
 how close FreeBSD is to full POSIX compliance.
 I guess that's the aim, isn't it?
 The answer is rather simple. In your presentation you would simple
 indicate that FreeBSD is not fully compliant. You then have the option
 of making copies of all the pages referenced in the above URL and
 including them in the presentation packet you are supplying to the group
 or simply referring them to the above URL. Figuring out which is more
 impressive I'll leave up to you.
 sorry to be a pain.
 
 Are we talking 10%, 50%, 90% complete?
 
 Does the above page include all tasks
 that need to be completed? In other words,
 if all tasks on the above page are ticked,
 does this aumtomatically give 100% compliance,
 or is it not that simple?
 
 It is not that simple, POSIX is more a set of norms than a norm by 
 itself. There are Posix aspects that are not in FreeBSD and probably 
 never will be, other aspects that do exist in FreeBSD but you should 
 definitly not use them as they are painfull to use or flawed or both 
 (Posix capabilities for exemple). Also there are systems that do support 
 a fair part of Posix, but which are just a pain to use in a Posix 
 compatible environment, basically requiring you to code quite a lot of 
 tools to have a Posix environment. Basically Windows Server supports 
 quite a good deal of Posix norms, and it works well for small projects 
 or simple programs, but if you want to create a Posix compliant 
 distributed datastore you are in for a hell of a ride. Linux is becoming 
 basically the same, in that more and more core system tools have 
 dependencies on Linux specific API. (And I won't talk about MacOS X)
 A good way of making a presentation would be to first look at what 
 aspects of Posix you need and try to find out where these aspect are 
 best supported.
 Now a simple and true enough answer would be to say that FreeBSD has one 
 of the broader _and most usable_ Posix support, second only to Solaris. 
 (Way better than AIX and on par with HP-UX in my humble opinion). It is 
 mostly true in the sense that FreeBSD does support quite a lot of Posix 
 norms including the latest ones. It is false int the sense that AIX, 
 HP-UX IRIX and quite alot of others have a 100% certified compliance for 
 some (quite old now) Posix norms.  CF :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#BSD_descendants
 
 At one point FreeBSD was very close to be fully Posix compliant with 
 norm 1.e, then norm 1.e was more or less thrown out the windows, and 
 posix norming system pretty much imploded at this time.
 
 So basically it is quite hard to answer without first knowing exactly 
 why you need Posix compliance. It is also worth noting that porting an 
 application from one fully compliant OS to another is not always easier 
 than porting from that OS to a non compliant one. Quite a lot of 
 problems can arise in slightly different interpretations of the norm, 
 and quite a lot of assumption that are correct under one system will 
 require carefull tweaking and lib binding in another.
 Another thing that is worth noting is that Posix norming system is 
 dying, I do not know of one system that has compliance above UNIX03, a 
 norm written in 2001...

A very helpful reply, thanks

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VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Da Rock
I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, 
and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting 
in VBox on FBSD host?


I _was_ considering it for some tests I was running... :(
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Stas Verberkt
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even 
 branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here 
 runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.
 
Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
branch?

Kind regards,

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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even 
 branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here 
 runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.

 Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
 branch?
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Stas Verberkt
 

To be honest, there shouldn't be.

There's an old saying that goes along the lines of uneven are
unstable/experimental but recent comments on the ML have claimed otherwise.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/02/2012 13:14, Stas Verberkt wrote:
 Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an uneven
 branch?

No.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread RW
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:52:24 +0100
Damien Fleuriot wrote:

 On 2/28/12 2:14 PM, Stas Verberkt wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 05:21:35PM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the
  even branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the
  machine here runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will
  arrive at the scene.
 
  Just wondering: is there any difference between an even and an
  uneven branch?
  
  Kind regards,
  
  Stas Verberkt
  
 
 To be honest, there shouldn't be.
 
 There's an old saying that goes along the lines of uneven are
 unstable/experimental but recent comments on the ML have claimed
 otherwise.

That's a Linux thing surely. I've never seen it claimed for FreeBSD.
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Simple question about pkg_add ...

2012-02-28 Thread David Walker
Hey.

I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware.
From upgt(4) ...

 This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it will
 work.  The firmware files are not publicly available.  A package of the
 firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available:

   http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz

pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz
Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz... Done.
pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package?

Best wishes.
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zpool not grabbing hot spare

2012-02-28 Thread Randy Schultz

Howdy howdy,

Got a zpool that lost a drive:
   Feb 24 20:46:01 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): lost device
   Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): Synchronize cache failed, 
status == 0xa, scsi status ==
   0x0
   Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): removing device entry

however the spare never came online:
  zpool status -v
 pool: data
state: DEGRADED
   status: One or more devices has been removed by the administrator.
   Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue functioning in a
   degraded state.
   action: Online the device using 'zpool online' or replace the device with
   'zpool replace'.
scan: resilvered 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Tue Oct 25 13:40:59 2011
   config:

   NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
   dataDEGRADED 0 0 0
 raidz2-0  DEGRADED 0 0 0
   da2 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da3 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da4 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da5 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da6 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da7 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da9 ONLINE   0 0 0
   da10ONLINE   0 0 0
   da11ONLINE   0 0 0
   da12ONLINE   0 0 0
   da13ONLINE   0 0 0
   da14ONLINE   0 0 0
   da15ONLINE   0 0 0
   da17ONLINE   0 0 0
   da18ONLINE   0 0 0
   da19ONLINE   0 0 0
   da20ONLINE   0 0 0
   da21ONLINE   0 0 0
   da22ONLINE   0 0 0
   da23ONLINE   0 0 0
   da25ONLINE   0 0 0
   da26ONLINE   0 0 0
   da27ONLINE   0 0 0
   da28ONLINE   0 0 0
   da29ONLINE   0 0 0
   da30REMOVED  0 0 0
   da31ONLINE   0 0 0
   da32ONLINE   0 0 0
   da33ONLINE   0 0 0
   da34ONLINE   0 0 0
   da35ONLINE   0 0 0
   da36ONLINE   0 0 0
   da37ONLINE   0 0 0
   da38ONLINE   0 0 0
   da39ONLINE   0 0 0
   da40ONLINE   0 0 0
   da41ONLINE   0 0 0
   da42ONLINE   0 0 0
   da43ONLINE   0 0 0
   da44ONLINE   0 0 0
   da45ONLINE   0 0 0
   da46ONLINE   0 0 0
   da47ONLINE   0 0 0
   logs
 mirror-1  ONLINE   0 0 0
   da24ONLINE   0 0 0
   da16ONLINE   0 0 0
   spares
 da1   AVAIL

I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered 
automatically.  Did I miss some config thing
or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works?

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
is not present.

How to solve this issue?
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Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare

2012-02-28 Thread Randy Schultz
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Randy Schultz spaketh thusly:

-}
-}I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered
-}automatically.  Did I miss some config thing
-}or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works?

Gah.  Forgot to check the beasty forums (tnx Mark for the gentle poke).  For 
any others not aware, the docs
all say the spare is hot, but this is not accurate.  See

   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2012-January/013428.html

Heh, shows how much I've been paying attention - I didn't even realize there 
was a freebsd-fs list.  But I'm
feeling much better now.  ;

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Re: VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:

I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead, bloated, and 
full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for network booting in VBox 
on FBSD host?


To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the 
PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type.  If the host is FreeBSD, the 
vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded.

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Re: FreeBsd Beginner

2012-02-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:13:41 +0530, shanib.k.k wrote:
 As am entirely fresh to FreeBSD i would like to know more about 
 how can configure or install it.

The basic documentation on how to install and configure
the system can be found in The FreeBSD Handbook and the
FAQ available from the main web site of the project.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/

Also PC-BSD is worth checking out. If you come from a
Windows background and have experiences with Ubuntu
Linux, this should look and feel familiar.

http://www.pcbsd.org/

But as a developer, you should not have _any_ problems
getting started with a pure FreeBSD installation that
will then fit your requirements (e. g. a development
environment workstation, a test server, or a mixed
form of both).



 Am using Windows OS in my personal system.How  can i install FreeBSD in 
 my local system and do a try before configuring in main server directly...

You can use the typical means of virtualization that are
possible inside a Windows installation. Emulate a full
PC and install the system to it.

For easily trying out a configured system I recommend
having a look at VirtualBSD.

http://www.virtualbsd.info/

It can easily be used without installation in a VirtualBox
environment which should even be possible in Windows.




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Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare

2012-02-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 28/02/2012 15:21, Randy Schultz wrote:
 Got a zpool that lost a drive:
Feb 24 20:46:01 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): lost device
Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): Synchronize cache
 failed, status == 0xa, scsi status ==
0x0
Feb 24 20:46:41 booto kernel: (da30:mpt3:0:6:0): removing device entry
 
 however the spare never came online:
   zpool status -v
  pool: data
 state: DEGRADED
status: One or more devices has been removed by the administrator.
Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue
 functioning in a
degraded state.
action: Online the device using 'zpool online' or replace the device
 with
'zpool replace'.
 scan: resilvered 0 in 0h2m with 0 errors on Tue Oct 25 13:40:59 2011
config:
 
NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
dataDEGRADED 0 0 0
  raidz2-0  DEGRADED 0 0 0
da2 ONLINE   0 0 0
da3 ONLINE   0 0 0
da4 ONLINE   0 0 0
da5 ONLINE   0 0 0
da6 ONLINE   0 0 0
da7 ONLINE   0 0 0
da9 ONLINE   0 0 0
da10ONLINE   0 0 0
da11ONLINE   0 0 0
da12ONLINE   0 0 0
da13ONLINE   0 0 0
da14ONLINE   0 0 0
da15ONLINE   0 0 0
da17ONLINE   0 0 0
da18ONLINE   0 0 0
da19ONLINE   0 0 0
da20ONLINE   0 0 0
da21ONLINE   0 0 0
da22ONLINE   0 0 0
da23ONLINE   0 0 0
da25ONLINE   0 0 0
da26ONLINE   0 0 0
da27ONLINE   0 0 0
da28ONLINE   0 0 0
da29ONLINE   0 0 0
da30REMOVED  0 0 0
da31ONLINE   0 0 0
da32ONLINE   0 0 0
da33ONLINE   0 0 0
da34ONLINE   0 0 0
da35ONLINE   0 0 0
da36ONLINE   0 0 0
da37ONLINE   0 0 0
da38ONLINE   0 0 0
da39ONLINE   0 0 0
da40ONLINE   0 0 0
da41ONLINE   0 0 0
da42ONLINE   0 0 0
da43ONLINE   0 0 0
da44ONLINE   0 0 0
da45ONLINE   0 0 0
da46ONLINE   0 0 0
da47ONLINE   0 0 0
logs
  mirror-1  ONLINE   0 0 0
da24ONLINE   0 0 0
da16ONLINE   0 0 0
spares
  da1   AVAIL
 
 I thought the spare was supposed to come online and be resilvered
 automatically.  Did I miss some config thing
 or did I just misunderstand how the hot spare bit works?

Yes.  That's the generally accepted meaning of the concept of a 'hot
spare.'  The fact that the spare hasn't been automatically bought
on-line in this case is a bug.  There's an open PR on the subject:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/134491

That seems to suggest the problem was known to be solved at some point
in 2011, but it was not necessarily propagated to all stable branches.
However, given your experience perhaps that is not the case.

You should be able to use zfs commands manually to sub-in the spare
drive and get it resilvered.

As an aside -- you've got a pretty odd setup there: 41 drives all in one
big RAIDZ2 vdev?  Standard practice would be to create something like 5
RAIDZ2 vdevs of 8 drives each (Or maybe 6 vdevs of 7 drives apiece: 6--9
drives is about the sweet spot for a RAIDZ2) and then stripe those vdevs
together to create your zpool.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...

2012-02-28 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:52:13 +1030, David Walker wrote:
 Hey.
 
 I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware.
 From upgt(4) ...
 
  This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it will
  work.  The firmware files are not publicly available.  A package of the
  firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available:
 
  http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz
 
 pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz
 Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz... 
 Done.
 pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a package?

Did you have a look at what's inside the .tar.gz file?
A directory upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0 with the following
files: Makefile, distinfo, pkg-descr, and pkg-plist.

Obviously, that's not a binary package for pkg_add use.
It's a port.

Extract the file and use it with the port infrastructure
(i. e. make install).

Seems that the instruction in man 4 upgt is just missing
the proper terminology...



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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:41:29 -0800, bsali...@gmail.com wrote:
 The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
 the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
 next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
 is not present.
 
 How to solve this issue?

Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.

Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html


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Re: zpool not grabbing hot spare

2012-02-28 Thread Randy Schultz
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Matthew Seaman spaketh thusly:

-}
-}Yes.  That's the generally accepted meaning of the concept of a 'hot
-}spare.'  The fact that the spare hasn't been automatically bought
-}on-line in this case is a bug.  There's an open PR on the subject:
-}
-}http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/134491

Tnx for the pointer!


-}
-}That seems to suggest the problem was known to be solved at some point
-}in 2011, but it was not necessarily propagated to all stable branches.
-}However, given your experience perhaps that is not the case.

Yeah, current kernel src's (8.2-STABLE) were sup'd and rebuilt Dec 22.


-}
-}You should be able to use zfs commands manually to sub-in the spare
-}drive and get it resilvered.
-}
-}As an aside -- you've got a pretty odd setup there: 41 drives all in one
-}big RAIDZ2 vdev?  Standard practice would be to create something like 5
-}RAIDZ2 vdevs of 8 drives each (Or maybe 6 vdevs of 7 drives apiece: 6--9
-}drives is about the sweet spot for a RAIDZ2) and then stripe those vdevs
-}together to create your zpool.

We looked at doing things this way, especially since it give much better
performance.  However, performance was less important than maximizing storage.
Over the last 9 weeks we are averaging (including nighly backups):

   capacity operationsbandwidth
poolalloc   free   read  write   read  write
--  -  -  -  -  -  -
data1.41T  8.34T 47 29  2.82M  1.31M
  raidz21.41T  8.34T 47 27  2.82M  1.17M
da2 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da3 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da4 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da5 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da6 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da7 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da9 -  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da10-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da11-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da12-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da13-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da14-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da15-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da17-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da18-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da19-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da20-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da21-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da22-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da23-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da25-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da26-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da27-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da28-  - 20  2  69.4K  30.1K
da29-  - 20  2  69.2K  30.1K
da30-  - 20  2  67.6K  29.9K
da31-  - 20  2  69.2K  30.1K
da32-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da33-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da34-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da35-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da36-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da37-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da38-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da39-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da40-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da41-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da42-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da43-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da44-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da45-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da46-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K
da47-  - 20  2  69.3K  30.1K


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Re: VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Carl Johnson
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com writes:

 On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:

 I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead,
 bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for
 network booting in VBox on FBSD host?

 To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the
 PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type.  If the host is FreeBSD, the
 vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded.

Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary.  I
was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress.  I then noticed
your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working.  I
would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete.
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tar --exclude not working

2012-02-28 Thread Peter
Hello,
  Ran into a weird issue where the 'exclude' pattern to tar isn't matching
correctly:

pkbsd:$find ./
./
./file
./dir1
./dir1/file
./dir2
./dir2/file

This is expected:
pkbsd:$tar Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./
a .
a ./file
a ./dir1
a ./dir2
a ./dir2/file
a ./dir1/file


This is correct:
pkbsd:$tar --exclude './dir2/file' -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./
a .
a ./file
a ./dir1
a ./dir2
a ./dir1/file

Here I want to _only_ exlude './file', NOT ./dir?/file
pkbsd:$tar --exclude './file' -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test ./
a .
a ./dir1
a ./dir2

Anyway to exclude just './file' ?

If I specify full path, it works as expected:
pkbsd:$tar --exclude home/peter/t/blah/file -Jcvf /tmp/tar.test
/home/peter/t/blah
tar: Removing leading '/' from member names
a home/peter/t/blah
a home/peter/t/blah/dir1
a home/peter/t/blah/dir2
a home/peter/t/blah/dir2/file
a home/peter/t/blah/dir1/file

Why not relative './file' ?  ['\./file' also does not work].

]Peter[

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User disappeared during update error

2012-02-28 Thread Ron (Lists)


I did a upgrade to FreeBSD 9 a few weeks ago and just started using it, 
and when I try and create a new user, I get the follow:


pw: user 'todd' disappeared during update
adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (todd).

I first noticed this issue when trying to install postfix and got a 
similar error.


Anyone know what this is or how to fix it without a complete 
re-install?


Ron




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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:52:32 -0800 (PST),
sw2wolf czsq...@163.com a écrit :

Hello,

 I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.

If it works don't break it :)

I don't use 9.0 on production server, but as far I can see on my
desktops (at home and at work) that works fine (with USF2 journal
and ZFS). This is the first step for me.

Regards.
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Re: Is it worthy upgrading to 9.0 ?

2012-02-28 Thread Waitman Gobble
On Feb 28, 2012 4:13 AM, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I cannot tell how often I have said this already. I stay with the even
branches until the next even branch comes out. Currently, the machine here
runs 8.3 and will stick to 8 until 10.0 or 10.1 will arrive at the scene.

 But for technical reasons, I have left one machine on 7 after the upgrade
from 6 to 8 failed. It is a very old machine and some hardware support got
dropped.

 Erich

 On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:03:45 Damien Fleuriot wrote:
 
  On 2/28/12 1:52 AM, sw2wolf wrote:
   uname -a
   FreeBSD mybsd.zsoft.com 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #3: Fri Sep 30
   15:23:56 CST 2011
   r...@mybsd.zsoft.com:/media/G/usr/obj/media/G/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
 i386
  
   I am using 8.2 for a long time. And it works VERY well.
  
  
   Any suggestion is appreciated!
  
 
  This is an entirely subjective question and one that only you can
answer.
 
  For example, given the number of problem reports I'm seeing on the
  lists, I'm going to stick with the 8-STABLE branch for still a long
  time, likely until 9.1 or 9.2-RELEASE.
 
  You may want to reflect on the features you currently use and whether
  they've been improved in 9.0-RELEASE or not (eg ZFS v28)
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10.0-CURRENT works pretty good for me, i'm running it on an intel 32
machine and an amd64 machine. i have some servers running 7, i totally
skipped 8 and tried 9 for a couple of months. but i wanted better wireless
hardware support so i started pulling cvs head.

For kicks i'm merging updated gnu and gpl software (that's been frozen
since GPLv3 hit) into 10 src (ie /usr/src/gnu and /usr/src/contrib) just to
see what kind of trouble it will cause.

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Re: DTrace userland

2012-02-28 Thread Marc Abramowitz
Here's another way to cause a kernel panic:

[marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo kldload dtraceall
[marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ cat -n test.c
 1 #include stdio.h
 2
 3 int main()
 4 {
 5sleep(15);
 6
 7FILE *fp = fopen(hello.txt, w);
 8fprintf(fp, Here I am at %s:%d.\n, __FILE__, __LINE__);
 9fclose(fp);
10 }
[marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ gcc test.c -o test
[marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c ./test
dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe
dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
  0  43030   main:entry
(Kernel panic!  After reboot)
[marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ cat hello.txt
Here I am at test.c:8.

Interestingly, the crash doesn't occur until after the sleep and the
fprintf call, so it looks the kernel panic happens as a result of the
traced process _exiting_...

Marc


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Another strange behavior:

 [Tab 1]
 $ /bin/sleep 300 
 [1] 1806

 [Tab 2]
 $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid1806:sleep::entry'
 $ echo $?
 158

 [Tab 1]
 [1]+  Killed: 9   /bin/sleep 300

 Something seems very wrong that DTrace is killing processes and causing
 kernel panics.

 Marc

 On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm using FreeBSD 9.0 on amd64 in VMware Fusion and trying to DTrace
 userland programs. I think I must be doing something wrong.

 I recompiled my kernel and world, following the instructions at
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace and I've read
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/DTrace/userland:

 The test.c pid provider example worked fine for me:

 $ sudo dtrace -s pid.d -c ./test
 dtrace: script 'pid.d' matched 2 probes
 dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
 CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
   0  43030   main:entry
   0  43031  sleep:entry
   0  43031  sleep:entry
   0  43031  sleep:entry

 As does a simple probe of test.c specified with the -n option:

 [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c
 ./test
 dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe
 dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
 CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
   0  43030   main:entry

 When I start trying to dtrace other programs, things don't go so well...

 $ sudo dtrace -n :::entry -c /usr/local/bin/python
 Python 2.4.5 (#2, Dec  5 2011, 15:19:09)
 [GCC 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD]] on freebsd9
 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
  import os
  os.getpid()
 1603
 
 dtrace: failed to control pid 1603: process exited with status 0

 $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:::entry' -c '/bin/cat hello_world.txt'
 dtrace: description 'pid$target:::entry' matched 3315 probes
 dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
 CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
   0  43448 _rtld_bind:entry
   0  43903  rlock_acquire:entry
   0  43125def_thread_set_flag:entry
 (Had to hit Ctrl-C to exit; it never displayed hello_world.txt to stdout)

 [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo make install
 ...
 [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo dtrace -n
 'pid$target:::entry' -c '/usr/local/bin/gcat config.log'
 dtrace: description 'pid$target:::entry' matched 3823 probes
 dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
 CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
   0  43524 _rtld_bind:entry
   0  43979  rlock_acquire:entry
   0  43201def_thread_set_flag:entry
 ^C

 $ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:cat:main:entry' -c '/bin/cat hello_world.txt'
 causes a kernel panic.
 According to the core.txt file, it was a Fatal trap 10: trace trap while
 in kernel mode and here's the KDB backtrace:

 KDB: stack backtrace:
 #0 0x8089025e at kdb_backtrace+0x5e
 #1 0x80858ce7 at panic+0x187
 #2 0x80b4bf20 at trap_fatal+0x290
 #3 0x80b4c540 at trap+0x180
 #4 0x80b36963 at calltrap+0x8
 #5 0x8162583d at dtrace_assfail+0x2d
 #6 0x8188aa2e at fasttrap_provider_free+0x1de
 #7 0x8188ad13 at fasttrap_pid_cleanup_cb+0x1c3
 #8 0x8086dfa1 at softclock+0x3a1
 #9 0x8082d724 at intr_event_execute_handlers+0x104
 #10 0x8082eee4 at ithread_loop+0xa4
 #11 0x8082a34f at fork_exit+0x11f
 #12 0x80b36e8e at fork_trampoline+0xe

 [marca@freebsd9-0 /usr/ports/sysutils/coreutils]$ sudo dtrace -n
 'pid$target:gcat::entry' -c '/usr/local/bin/gcat config.log'
 (Another kernel panic)

 I can provide full crash dumps if necessary.

 Any idea what's going on here?

 Cheers,
 Marc





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Webcam Selection

2012-02-28 Thread Cy Schubert
Hi all,

After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical 
webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot. 
My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be 
there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to 
send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later). 
Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used 
the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired 
that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving 
me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam 
with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to 
have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions?


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Thanks,

I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader
doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0

So how can this be resolved at boot time (not mount time).

Thanks.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 Label the drives and use labels instead of device names.

 Get some inspiration from Warren's excellent article here:
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, bsali...@gmail.com bsali...@gmail.comwrote:

 The real issue is that the USB boot device sits at da16 and if any of
 the da members below da16 drops, the usb boot device becomes da15 at
 next boot. The loader.conf still looks at da6 for root device and that
 is not present.

 How to solve this issue?


Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs:

hint.scbus.0.at=da0
hint.scbus.0.bus=0
hint.da.0.at=scbus0
hint.da.0.target=0
hint.da.0.unit=0
hint.scbus.1.bus=umass-sim0
hint.da.1.at=scbus1
hint.da.1.target=0
hint.da.1.unit=0


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Adam,

This worked like a charm :-)

I found that my umass-sim0 is at scbus6 and added following lines in loader.conf

hint.scbus.6.bus=umass-sim0
hint.da.0.at=scbus6
hint.da.0.target=0
hint.da.0.unit=0

Thanks a lot.



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Add to /boot/loader.conf and adjust to your needs:

 hint.scbus.0.at=da0
 hint.scbus.0.bus=0
 hint.da.0.at=scbus0
 hint.da.0.target=0
 hint.da.0.unit=0
 hint.scbus.1.bus=umass-sim0
 hint.da.1.at=scbus1
 hint.da.1.target=0
 hint.da.1.unit=0


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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread Maciej Milewski
Dnia wtorek, 28 lutego 2012 13:08:04 bsali...@gmail.com pisze:
 Thanks,
 
 I got the part where you can label the partitions but the loader
 doesn't look at labels. Loader looks at ufs:/dev/da0
 
 So how can this be resolved at boot time (not mount time).
 
 Thanks.
vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work?
I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader.

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Re: VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Carl Johnson wrote:


Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com writes:


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:


I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead,
bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for
network booting in VBox on FBSD host?


To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the
PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type.  If the host is FreeBSD, the
vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded.


Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary.


Updated in the PXE article, thanks.

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Re: fixating USB Storage

2012-02-28 Thread bsali...@gmail.com
Maciej

I didn't know if the label would work in loader.conf.

This solution suggested by Adam worked and seems much simpler than
labeling the filesystem.

hint.da.0.at=scbus6

Thanks.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Maciej Milewski m...@dat.pl wrote:
 vfs.root.mountfrom=ufs:/dev/label/bigdisk in loader.conf doesn't work?

 I think that worked with stock FreeBSD loader.



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Re: VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Da Rock

On 02/29/12 03:04, Carl Johnson wrote:

Warren Blockwbl...@wonkity.com  writes:


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:


I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead,
bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for
network booting in VBox on FBSD host?

To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the
PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type.  If the host is FreeBSD, the
vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded.

Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary.  I
was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress.  I then noticed
your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working.  I
would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete.
I took it for granted the bridge part (I usually use it anyway), but I 
would never have guessed the PCnet card in a blue fit! There was even a 
PR on virtualbox for the issue of the lack of PXE with Oracle basically 
saying too bad, so sad Apparently PXE licensing didn't allow them 
to distribute it directly, but offer an extension pack (which doesn't 
work on FBSD) instead. Ergo my conclusion. Apparently (based on this 
thread) it only affects intel cards though...


Where is your page Warren, and why didn't it show up in my searches? ;) 
I'll follow it from here on out I think...


Thanks guys... saved me a lot more fussing!
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Re: Webcam Selection

2012-02-28 Thread Da Rock

On 02/29/12 06:46, Cy Schubert wrote:

Hi all,

After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical
webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot.
My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be
there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to
send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later).
Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used
the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired
that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving
me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam
with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to
have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions?
Thanks to the hard work of Luigi Rizzo and Co, just about any CE device 
should work. If it works on linux it will work here now, using webcamd.

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Re: VBox network boot

2012-02-28 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:


On 02/29/12 03:04, Carl Johnson wrote:

Warren Blockwbl...@wonkity.com  writes:


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote:


I'm starting to believe this dog won't hunt (in fact is dead,
bloated, and full of worms...); but has anyone got a solution for
network booting in VBox on FBSD host?

To PXE-boot a VM guest, set networking to to Bridged and use the
PCnet-PCI II (Am79C970A) adapter type.  If the host is FreeBSD, the
vboxnet kernel module has to be loaded.

Please emphasize that the PCnet-PCI II card emulation is necessary.  I
was trying the Intel emulation and making no progress.  I then noticed
your page and tried the PCnet-PCI II card and it started working.  I
would guess that means their Intel card emulation is incomplete.
I took it for granted the bridge part (I usually use it anyway), but I would 
never have guessed the PCnet card in a blue fit! There was even a PR on 
virtualbox for the issue of the lack of PXE with Oracle basically saying too 
bad, so sad Apparently PXE licensing didn't allow them to distribute it 
directly, but offer an extension pack (which doesn't work on FBSD) instead. 
Ergo my conclusion. Apparently (based on this thread) it only affects intel 
cards though...


Where is your page Warren, and why didn't it show up in my searches? ;) I'll 
follow it from here on out I think...


Sorry, it's at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/pxe.html .
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Re: Delete files let FreeBSD crashes.

2012-02-28 Thread netroby
Thanks .
I had resolved the problem :

1. restart FreeBSD to single user mode.
2. umount all device then run fsck -f
3. after finished the fsck, restart FreeBSD , return to normal mode.
4. delete the broken directory, and restore the data from backup.
5. every thing seems ok now.


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在 2012年2月28日 下午4:09,Damien Fleuriot m...@my.gd写道:

 On 2/28/12 8:11 AM, netroby wrote:
  i installed freebsd 9 on virtualbox, when i try to delete a directory
  with following command:
 
  rm -rf ./zf2
 
  the system will halt , then restart.
 
  i had using fsck -y to check the filesystem, but seems not work.
 
  following the output:
 

 *** HALT ***

 You're not running fsck on a MOUNTED device are you ?

 If you are, kindly stop doing so to prevent damage to your system.
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Re: DTrace userland

2012-02-28 Thread Marc Abramowitz
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rui Paulo rpa...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Please file a PR. These are problems that we have to fix.


I submitted a PR for the kernel panic at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165541

Marc
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Re: DTrace userland

2012-02-28 Thread Marc Abramowitz
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Marc Abramowitz msabr...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's another way to cause a kernel panic:

 [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo kldload dtraceall
 ...
 [marca@freebsd9-0 ~]$ sudo dtrace -n 'pid$target:test:main:entry' -c
 ./test
 dtrace: description 'pid$target:test:main:entry' matched 1 probe
 dtrace: buffer size lowered to 1m
 CPU IDFUNCTION:NAME
   0  43030   main:entry
 (Kernel panic!  After reboot)


I submitted a PR for this kernel panic at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=165541

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Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...

2012-02-28 Thread David Walker
Hi Polytropon.

I did have a look inside and I did pkg_add -v which gives enough
information combined with my meagre knowledge to guess that it had
something to do with source.
I'm so unfamiliar with pkg_add I'm not sure if that is normal.
I'm very new here.
Certainly it's not in a suitable format for pkg_add to deal with.

I guess pkg_add is the preferred option for firmware installation.
I'll contact the maintainer.

On 29/02/2012, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:52:13 +1030, David Walker wrote:
 Hey.

 I believe I have a pcmcia card that requires upgt firmware.
 From upgt(4) ...

  This driver requires the upgtfw firmware to be installed before it
 will
  work.  The firmware files are not publicly available.  A package of
 the
  firmware which can be installed via pkg_add(1) is available:

 http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz

 pkg_add http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz
 Fetching http://weongyo.org/project/upgt/upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0.tar.gz...
 Done.
 pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file '+CONTENTS' - not a
 package?

 Did you have a look at what's inside the .tar.gz file?
 A directory upgt-firmware-2.13.1.0 with the following
 files: Makefile, distinfo, pkg-descr, and pkg-plist.

 Obviously, that's not a binary package for pkg_add use.
 It's a port.

 Extract the file and use it with the port infrastructure
 (i. e. make install).

 Seems that the instruction in man 4 upgt is just missing
 the proper terminology...



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Re: Simple question about pkg_add ...

2012-02-28 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:41:46 +1030, David Walker wrote:
 Hi Polytropon.
 
 I did have a look inside and I did pkg_add -v which gives enough
 information combined with my meagre knowledge to guess that it had
 something to do with source.

A port (as you can find it inside the archive) is a recipe
for dealing with sources, e. g. where to obtain then, how
to compile, where to install to and so on. The ports collection
of the FreeBSD OS is used to deal with handling software
based on sources: configure, patch, build, install, deinstall,
upgrade and similar tasks.

See man ports for a better explaination.



 I'm so unfamiliar with pkg_add I'm not sure if that is normal.

The pkg_add utility installs programs from binary packages.
Those packages are created by compiling a port - typically
with its default options. Those packages are built for the
FreeBSD ports collection and made available by the FreeBSD
team. External packages, created outside the world of
FreeBSD ports, are possible.

See man pkg_add for details.



 I'm very new here.
 Certainly it's not in a suitable format for pkg_add to deal with.

Correct. A pkg_add package typically contains compiled stuff,
i. e. binaries, and a packaging list for installation and
later removal. Additional tasks can also be scripted.



 I guess pkg_add is the preferred option for firmware installation.

It's used to install programs (or libraries) to the FreeBSD
system. The use with firmware is also possible. Basically,
ports (from source) and packages (precompiled binaries) have
the same purpose: Get things installed.

If the maintainer would compile the port (that he provided
for download) and give the proper URL of the result in the
manpage, pkg_add would work as intended.



 I'll contact the maintainer.

That would be a good idea as the description you quoted from
the manpage is technically not correct.

Option 1: Provide a pkg_add-able package.

Option 2: Provide instructions on how to deal with the port.



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Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.4.rc5 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)

2012-02-28 Thread David Naylor
Hi,

Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5 have been uploaded to mediafire [2].

There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world
(help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users).

The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on
installation (if the relevant files are accessible).  Please read the
installation messages for further information.

Regards,

David

[1]
 MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5,1.tbz) = 53c37ef9fbd0f12f6c456efac942a575
 MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.4.rc5,1.txz) = 4f653f5d8e29fd5e7811dec2f81469a8
[2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64
[3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh


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Re: Webcam Selection

2012-02-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, February 29, 2012 a las 10:20:12AM +1000, Da Rock escribió:

 On 02/29/12 06:46, Cy Schubert wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  After a number of years just lying in desk drawer my old Logitech spherical
  webcam died. So, I'm looking for a new one. It's not that I use it a lot.
  My wife will be heading out of province to our son's place next month to be
  there for the birth of our first grandson. The plan was to use a webcam to
  send back pictures later (not on the day of, of course but a week later).
  Anyhow I need to replace the old with a new webcam. The last time I used
  the old webcam it was hooked up to a Windows XP system. I've since retired
  that machine, along with the retirement of three FreeBSD machines, leaving
  me with a few servers and my FreeBSD laptop. I'm hoping to use the webcam
  with Pidgin with MSN. Can anyone suggest a brand and model? It needs to
  have good image quality and needs to work with FreeBSD 9.0. Any suggestions?

See http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat for a list of known to work
webcams;

HIH

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