Version Selection
I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. The processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The machines all have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their intended use. Some of these are replacing very old equipment that is being retired and did not have the ability to run amd64 so everything has been i386 till now. The question is what are the advantages or disadvantages of switching to amd64? I have tested all the various applications on amd64 and they work fine. Is there going to be any benefit down the road in a few years to being on amd64? If so, now would be the time to switch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
possbility of a port for older versions of libintl?
Hey there, I recently discovered that the vmware-tools package is compiled against libintl.so.8 -- yes, this is probably something that should be fixed at the vmware level, but VMware's love for FreeBSD isn't there. As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's assumed it will only be used by this one tool). This seems to me to be somewhat *less* destabilizing than the commonly-suggested (and perhaps, oft-used) suggestion of symlinking /usr/lib/libintl.so.8 -- libintl.so.9 Thoughts? -- Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Version Selection
On 11/06/2012 07:20, Doug Hardie wrote: I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. The processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The machines all have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their intended use. Some of these are replacing very old equipment that is being retired and did not have the ability to run amd64 so everything has been i386 till now. The question is what are the advantages or disadvantages of switching to amd64? I have tested all the various applications on amd64 and they work fine. Is there going to be any benefit down the road in a few years to being on amd64? If so, now would be the time to switch. In my experience I find that amd64 is the way to go. As in: the only reason to use i386 is if there is some software that requires i386 and that you can't either replace with an amd64 compatible alternative, run in 32bit mode using lib32 shlibs etc. or just do without entirely. The principle reasoning behind this is that amd64 is essentially a super-set of i386: just about anything you can do on i386, you can do on amd64, but not necessarily vice-versa. There are some differences in performance and memory usage, but these are usually minor and in practice mostly in favour of amd64. Although you're only using 2GB RAM now, amd64 does give you the possibility of expanding that to 4GB should that become a requirement in future. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: possbility of a port for older versions of libintl?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:43 -0400 (EDT), Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's assumed it will only be used by this one tool). Maybe using the port compatverx-arch-x.y (which has the required lib version you need) in combination with the ld.so library mapping (see man libmap.conf) will work? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ports: make config-recursive doesn't really
from Gary Aitken free...@dreamchaser.org: I'm trying to build a script to rebuild and reinstall everything I have installed from ports. I don't want to have to keep checking on it and filling out the +appropriate check boxes for options. I naively assumed: for port in $ports do cd /usr/port/$port make config-recursive cd ../.. done would allow me to set up all the dependencies before continuing with the install. It appears, however, that it doesn't really recurse properly. I say appears only because this is my first time trying this and despite doing the above +setting of options, I am confronted with additional options screens as the build progresses. Is there a way to get around this? This has happened to me too, all too many times. One way to avoid this problem is to run make config-recursive repeatedly until you get no more dialog screens. Or you can try portmaster as Subhro Sankha Kar suggests; I am only getting started with portmaster, successfully portmastered cdrtools. I have a lot of ports now to upgrade (master?) I like to keep a log such as by (command) | tee /path/to/log-file, or anything else that works equally well. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Making a bootable backup (hard)disk... how?
On Monday 11 June 2012 00:03:59 Daniel Feenberg wrote: It does occur to me that /etc is not a felicitous place to keep this information, but given the desirability of dumping filesystems in read only state, placing the dump dates in the filesystem itself isn't feasible. Dumping with the -L option creates a temporary read only snapshot which is used as the source for the backup. This enables you to safely backup a live filesystem, More background on snapshots at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/snapshots.html -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 19, Message: 23 On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:56:49 -0400 Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:06:26 +0200 Julian H. Stacey articulated: [..] As a start here's : http://berklix.org/uefi/ URLs welcome. Contact names welcome. Volunteers welcome. It is posts like this that basically turn my stomach. A product, any product, should succeed or fail based on its own merits and not because some government agency aided or thwarted it. Most, it not nearly all PC manufacturers exist solely because of Microsoft. The PC market balloons every time Microsoft releases a new version of Windows. Seriously now, how many PC were sold because FreeBSD released version 9 of its OS? If you want to beat someone, you make a better product. You don't go running to your mamma asking for protection. That stinks of socialism/fascism. The UEFI specification has existed for years. Supposedly, Linux has been capable of using it for 8+ years. I have no idea if FreeBSD is even capable of handling it. It wouldn't surprise me it if couldn't though. What this really tells me is that there has been way to much procrastination by the FOSS. Microsoft simply took advantage of an existing standard (remember standards something the FOSS is always crying about) and now FOSS is begging for mercy. This is more than just slightly funny, it is pathetic. If 1% of the effort of spreading this BS over UEFI had gone into working on a solution for UEFI two years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. I'vw been wondering when this topic would summon our longest-serving resident troll for Microsoft out of the woodwork for a proper full-tilt rant, replete with inimitable socialism/fascism jibe. Gotta love it! Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox Script Problems
On Jun 11, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello Sean, Can you run FF from a terminal and report back what you see? Thanks -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 Thank you for the reply. I have cured the problem. To fix the unresponsiveness I had to delete the .mozilla directory in my home directory and let Firefox recreate a new one on startup. I just had to reconfigure FF to my personal settings since this is a first time run. Thanks again ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
speed of dump
Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about dump and sizing its cache. Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). Robert Huff Backup started. at Mon Jun 11 01:59:00 EDT 2012 /backup clean Disk mounted DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 01:59:02 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad2s1a (/) to 2012.Jun.11.root.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 1295163 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 1295138 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 106 seconds, throughput 12218 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 01:59:02 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.root.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE Compressing with gzip ... done DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 02:02:06 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad2s1d (/var) to 2012.Jun.11.var.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 545087 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: DUMP: 545009 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 72 seconds, throughput 7569 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 02:02:06 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.var.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE Compressing with gzip... done DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Jun 11 02:04:01 2012 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/ad4p2 (/usr) to 2012.Jun.11.usr.dump DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files] DUMP: Cache 32 MB, blocksize = 65536 DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories] DUMP: estimated 34156025 tape blocks. DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories] DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] DUMP: 11.75% done, finished in 0:37 at Mon Jun 11 02:46:45 2012 DUMP: 29.89% done, finished in 0:23 at Mon Jun 11 02:37:39 2012 DUMP: 44.21% done, finished in 0:18 at Mon Jun 11 02:38:07 2012 DUMP: 63.00% done, finished in 0:11 at Mon Jun 11 02:35:56 2012 DUMP: 83.78% done, finished in 0:04 at Mon Jun 11 02:34:02 2012 DUMP: DUMP: 34166302 tape blocks on 1 volume DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec DUMP: level 0 dump on Mon Jun 11 02:04:01 2012 DUMP: Closing 2012.Jun.11.usr.dump DUMP: DUMP IS DONE 569586 /backup/Mon/root 34183010/backup/Mon/usr 139058 /backup/Mon/var 34891656/backup/Mon Disk unmounted. Backup complete. at Mon Jun 11 02:33:30 EDT 2012 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
mail server
I want to sent me configuration to build mail server step by step -- bahaa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Version Selection
There are two advantages that come to mind quickly. With amd64 you could install more than 4 gigs of ram and have it recognized. With i386 if you need to do this pae would need to be installed, which FreeBSD doc pages say is if beta quality. I bet that amd64 will get more dev attention. On Jun 10, 2012 11:21 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote: I have a number of servers that I am about to upgrade to FreeBSD 9.0. The processors all have the ability to run i386 or amd64. The machines all have 2 GB memory which is more than adequate for their intended use. Some of these are replacing very old equipment that is being retired and did not have the ability to run amd64 so everything has been i386 till now. The question is what are the advantages or disadvantages of switching to amd64? I have tested all the various applications on amd64 and they work fine. Is there going to be any benefit down the road in a few years to being on amd64? If so, now would be the time to switch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: speed of dump
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Robert Huff wrote: Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about dump and sizing its cache. Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec Are you using -b64 ? That can make a serious throughput improvement over smaller values. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: speed of dump
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec Looks like one of your disks must be USB. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xfce 4.10 update problems
Warren Block wblock at wonkity.com writes: ... - startx fails when moused enabled (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit returned NULL for PS/2 Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) xinit: connection to X server lost Any known solutions ? Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: Option AutoAddDevices Off OK, that's way to go. But there is something strange. I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf . After reboot, I could 'startx' X session. But 'ps' still showed moused processes: $ ps auxww |grep -i mouse root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01 grep -i mouse I tested it by rebooting 3 times. I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. How to explain that? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xfce 4.10 update problems
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:22:51 -0500, jb jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: I tested it by rebooting 3 times. I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. moused_nondefault_enable=NO perhaps? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as open-sore or socialist-software the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame bait. Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may quite understandably be called flamebait. Expressing surprise that someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT - enjoy it
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:26:16AM +, jb wrote: Chinese advertising of soccer championship Euro 2012 http://avaxnews.com/wow/Chinese_Advertising_UEFA_Euro_2012.html That . . . was nuts. What just happened? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as open-sore or socialist-software the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame bait. Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may quite understandably be called flamebait. Expressing surprise that someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term mafia while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the Mafia is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of Italian descent consider the term mafia offensive. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans substance. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: USB 3.0 delay in 'detecting' attached drive
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Waitman Gobble wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Waitman Gobble wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com wrote: Waitman Gobble wrote: Hi, I have a new machine with 2 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports. When I plug a USB 3.0 drive / cable into the USB 3.0 port it takes about 70 seconds for the drive to show up, on the USB 2.0 port it's instantly. I haven't used USB 3.0 with FreeBSD so I'm not sure if this is expected or maybe I need to reconfigure something or look at a different kernel config. Might be a marginal power issue. USB 3 devices are allowed to consume 1.0 Amps. USB2 ports only need provide 0.5. I have a tower wont recognise my USB disc on its USB2 ports. On my new PCI express card in same tower, it comes up quickly. Cheers, Julian Thanks. Not sure if there's anything I can do about that. It's a new HP dv6 laptop which according to box was mfg in May 2012... I would assume hardware would be designed and put together properly. :) Sounds new enough :-) My USB3 disc on my newish laptop with USB 2 socket 8.2 9.0 come up fast enough, not noticed problems, not specificaly timed it though. Try external power if you have a socket on disk box ? Try disk on another known good FreeBSD USB3 card on a tower (my card cost 30 Euro BTW) Or try a power doubler cable (connected via a female to female adapter, which Ive never seen on sale, I made my own by cutting up a dead mainboard), to the USB 3 male to male cable. (for any who dont know, cant omit that cable as USB3 socket on lapop size drives is a different shape, flater, wider. I wonder if it might be taking time dropping back to USB2 speed. if eg you don't have xhci in kernel ? I have all of config -x/boot/kernel/kernel | grep hci device uhci device ohci device xhci device ehci I just havent taken some out yet. Cheers, Julian I believe it uses ohci for usb 2.0, I doubt that. xhci for 3.0, Yes ehci for 1.0 No Reading manuals: ehci : for a controller chip that Only does USB 2.0, not 1.0 ohci : OHCI v1.0 USB1 uhci : UHCI v1.1 USB1 xhci : USB 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 (which I suppose might be connected to some device internally even if you do not have 1.0 port?) I originally built this system on a different machine, with different hardware, but it really shouldn't make a different AFAIK. .. But I did just csup and rebuild everything on the laptop... i needed to build some devices into the kernel anyhow, and NOW the usb 3.0 connect is instantly, there is now no 70 second delay. Good. BTW I'd not considered you might be seeing something on current, as this questions@ was originaly created for people new to FreeBSD Machine my end was 8.3-RELEASE. The current@ list would know if xhci was problematic. I'd have to check, maybe there was a change in xhci between June 2 and today which could have caused the issue. Or it was just a 'weird harold' event, for some reason it just felt like sitting there a minute. Thanks for your help, :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ Hi, thanks - good point. maybe even freebsd-usb group would be better. i'll see if it happens again and post in there. Waitman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Dedicated pointing device for a Xephyr instance
Hi, I have a Xorg server (x11-servers/xorg-server) running receiving input from a synaptics touchpad at /dev/psm0. I would like to run a Xephyr (x11-servers/xephyr) instance in this server that would take input from a different, dedicated pointing device, in this case a USB mouse at /dev/ums0. The Xephyr help mentions a -mouse option. I have searched a lot on the internet about this and even tried to read the relevant part of Xephyr's source code. While I could not understand the overall structure of that code, I noticed no relevant KdPointerDriver structure. It also seems that is possible on Linux with a evdev driver. Is it also possible on FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as open-sore or socialist-software the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame bait. Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may quite understandably be called flamebait. Expressing surprise that someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term mafia while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the Mafia is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of Italian descent consider the term mafia offensive. I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and get to the point: Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have generally not heard of open source software or its community referred to as mafia, but I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans substance. I referred to no election. I am not list spokesperson, nor do I pretend to be or act as one, any more than you are the spokesperson for capitalism. I'm simply pointing out that you are an insufferable, trollish jackass, initially in a polite manner. The fact you avoid actually engaging my
Re: can't kill -9 Xorg
Hello What happens if you run without a xorg.conf? Xorg has become pretty good at guessing correct settings these days. Thanks -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 On 11-Jun-2012, at 5:01 PM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: My X is unusable since the recent png update. This is r236740M on HP Compaq 6715s amd64 laptop. I've no hal installed (if this matters). # pkg info -x xorg linux-f10-xorg-libs-7.4_1 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 10) xorg-cf-files-1.0.4X.org cf files for use with imake builds xorg-fonts-7.5.1 X.org fonts meta-port xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5.1X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5.1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5.1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5.1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5.1 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-7.5.1 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-libraries-7.5.1 X.org libraries meta-port xorg-macros-1.16.1 X.Org development aclocal macros xorg-server-1.7.7_5,1 X.Org X server and related programs # # pkg info -x xf86 libXxf86dga-1.1.2 X DGA Extension libXxf86misc-1.0.3 X XF86-Misc Extension libXxf86vm-1.1.1 X Vidmode Extension xf86-input-keyboard-1.6.1 X.Org keyboard input driver xf86-input-mouse-1.7.1 X.Org mouse input driver xf86-video-ati-6.14.3_1X.Org ati display driver xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0 XFree86-Bigfont extension headers xf86dgaproto-2.1 XFree86-DGA extension headers xf86driproto-2.1.1 XFree86-DRI extension headers xf86miscproto-0.9.3XFree86-Misc extension headers xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 XFree86-VidModeExtension extension headers # My xorg.conf.new: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard Option AllowEmptyInput Off EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load extmod Load record Load dbe Load glx Load dri Load dri2 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 330 210 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName LPL ModelNamed600 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BoardName RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] BusID PCI:1:5:0 Option int10 on Option BusType PCIE Option RenderAccel on Option AccelMethod xaa Option DynamicPM on Option DRI on EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection The Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT amd64 Current Operating System: FreeBSD mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r236740M: Sat Jun 9 22:35:49 BST 2012 r...@mech-aslap239.men.bris.ac.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUZI amd64 Build Date: 11 June 2012 12:11:20PM Current version of pixman: 0.24.2 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Jun 11
Re: mysqld startup issue
On 11-Jun-2012, at 11:02 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql on it: moved user accounts, although no logical move: /usr/home/foo was = /hd1/foo now /usr/home = /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to repartitioning. removed all ports and reinstalled them Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test What's the permission of /var/db/mysql? Also what user is mysql running as? Thanks Subhro -- Subhro Sankha Kar System Administrator Working and Playing with FreeBSD since 2002 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. Running mysqld --verbose shows: basedir /usr/local general-log-file/var/db/mysql/breakaway.log ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 9558944 Jun 11 10:40 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld ls -dl /var/db/mysql drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 512 Jun 11 10:31 /var/db/mysql cd / find . -ls | grep my.cnf shows nothing. This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure what. Suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:11:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:23:20AM -0400, Jerry wrote: It is fairly easy to understand both sides in this discussion. When Microsoft supporters refer to open-source software as open-sore or socialist-software the FOSS community becomes enraged. However, when the open-source community retaliates it is considered acceptable. Quite frankly I read far more Microsoft based forums than open-source based ones and I can say without a doubt, at least in my experience, Microsoft proponents never attack open-source with the venomous hatred that open-source attacks Microsoft. In fact, the majority of Microsoft users that I know could not care less about what they consider an overly burdensome (geeky) open-source operating system. The whole argument can probably be boiled do to this: Disparaging other operating systems (Microsoft) and pointing out its failures is beneficial, constructive and therapeutic. Pointing out problems and failures regarding your own OS is destructive and flame bait. Perhaps you're spending too much time in the community venues of open source software projects. In communities devoted to use of software peddled by Microsoft, the reverse would be true, and this seems to me not the least bit surprising, or even particularly inappropriate. When you stroll into a venue where it can reasonably be assumed there is a general consensus position of favoring one thing over another (such as a sports bar in Colorado, which would likely favor the Broncos over the Raiders), then start loudly proclaiming the evils of the favored thing relative to the unfavored (such as talking about how much better the Raiders are than the Broncos, and how the Broncos fans are all a bunch of pansy whiners, as you tend to do about open source software users and advocates while you're hanging out here on a FreeBSD mailing list), what you are contributing to the discussion may quite understandably be called flamebait. Expressing surprise that someone would apply such a label in these circumstances is, in my estimation, at least disingenuous if not wholly ludicrous, directly deceptive, and/or frankly dumb. Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term mafia while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the Mafia is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of Italian descent consider the term mafia offensive. I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and get to the point: Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have generally not heard of open source software or its community referred to as mafia, but I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. I love the way you make a statement, then add a qualifier to the statement making it virtually impossible to attack as well as giving yourself a way out. I'll explain further in my reply near the end of this post. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans substance. I referred to no
Re: xfce 4.10 update problems
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, jb wrote: Warren Block wblock at wonkity.com writes: ... - startx fails when moused enabled (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit returned NULL for PS/2 Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) xinit: connection to X server lost Any known solutions ? Disable hal in xorg.conf, ServerLayout section: Option AutoAddDevices Off OK, that's way to go. But there is something strange. I tried to fix the problem by disabling moused in /etc/rc.conf . After reboot, I could 'startx' X session. But 'ps' still showed moused processes: $ ps auxww |grep -i mouse root 1286 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 8:55AM 0:01.02 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid root 1888 0.0 0.1 9716 1144 ?? Is 8:55AM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto root 2045 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) root 2065 0.0 0.1 12340 2520 ?? I 8:55AM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) jb 2262 0.0 0.1 9748 1284 2 S+ 9:03AM 0:00.01 grep -i mouse I tested it by rebooting 3 times. I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable=NO is set in rc.conf. That's not a bad thing. It seems like enabling moused is needed somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mysqld startup issue
Gary Aitken wrote: I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql on it: moved user accounts, although no logical move: /usr/home/foo was = /hd1/foo now /usr/home = /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to repartitioning. removed all ports and reinstalled them Although I have not really experienced much in the way of toruble with this, as my systems are not very 'busy', it can be better to boot from a LiveCD to do the dump because no files are open for writing and all your MySQL files will be static. No possibility of change during the dump. That being said, I have done dumps from live filesystems and have been able to restore them many times. Forewarned is forearmed. Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. I have had trouble before when playing with these files outside of MySQL. What happens is if they get out of sync with the index they will become totally unusable. There are recovery procedures in the docs, but if memory serves it was just easier to delete the ib_logfile(x) and allow MySQL to recreate from scratch. Probably not central to your problem, per se, just thought I'd make mention in passing. I would recommend consulting the docs on this subject of index/logfile recovery prior to any blindly mucking about. Running mysqld --verbose shows: basedir /usr/local general-log-file/var/db/mysql/breakaway.log Usually this file is of the form FQDN hostname.err ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 9558944 Jun 11 10:40 mine shows: testbed# ls -aol /usr/local/libexec/mysqld -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 6694672 May 10 11:16 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld /usr/local/libexec/mysqld ls -dl /var/db/mysql drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql mysql 512 Jun 11 10:31 /var/db/mysql and my /var/db shows the below for the mysql directory: drwxr-xr-x 21 mysql mysql3072 Jun 4 12:09 mysql cd / find . -ls | grep my.cnf shows nothing. This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure what. Suggestions? Beginning with the mysql_enable=YES I have found when using rc startup scripts you need the entire path: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server blah Moving on to permissions. Don't recall specifically, but if memory serves during the port install/reinstall there is a choice displayed to keep/use a previous mysql:mysql user and group combo. Perhaps an incorrect choice allows for deleting this - never known as I have always chosen to not delete but to reuse the old accounts. Nevertheless, in /etc/group there should be an entry like this: mysql:*:88: And the user account as shown by vipw will look like this: mysql:*:88:88::0:0:MySQL Daemon:/nonexistent:/sbin/nologin These should both be handled 'automagically' by the ports build system. You can cd to /var/db and do a chown -R mysql:mysql mysql if you want to ensure file ownership is correct, provided the above referenced entries are in place. The ports these days will place the my.cnf file in /usr/local/etc instead of the old location of /var/db/mysql. I believe it is still supposed to fall back to /var/db/mysql if not found. One thing I found out when I was having a problem was that MySQL will not source this file if permissions on it are world read/write. Not exactly sure what it's supposed to be (I'm sure this can be found in the docs) but I've just chmod'd it 444 when I'm done with edits. I do not grasp why any movement of your home directories mentioned at the top would matter to MySQL. I suspect something more to do with the removed all ports and reinstalled them part. The mysql.plugin tells you to run an update script to update schema. There is more info on this in the docs. Don't believe that is the main problem. I suspect either you have InnoDB configs not being read in my.cnf or that InnoDB logfiles or index got corrupted by the backup process. If you have MyIsam tables and you comment out in my.cnf the activation (once you get my.cnf
Re: speed of dump
Warren Block writes: Another thread, which I seem to have lost, was talking about dump and sizing its cache. Per my promise, appended is the log of this morning's level 0 dump, using C=32. THe system is -CURRENT from March, using AMD Phemon II x4/3ghz and SATA 3gbit drives (one internal, one external.). DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec Are you using -b64 ? That can make a serious throughput improvement over smaller values. No. I'll give it a try. Thanks, Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: speed of dump
Adam Vande More writes: DUMP: finished in 1746 seconds, throughput 19568 KBytes/sec Looks like one of your disks must be USB. Source disk: SATA, I believe 3mbit Target disk: e-SATA, which may be limited to 1.5 mbit/sec. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 02:46:49PM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:44:11 -0600 Chad Perrin articulated: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:59:46PM -0400, Jerry wrote: Your paranoia is kicking in again isn't it Chad. Anyway, to address your sports analogy, if I walk into a NY City bar and enter into a discussion regarding the pros and cons of the Jets VS Giants, which in itself is ridiculous since neither is actually located in NY, and blatantly scream out that the (Jets of Giants -- you pick) are a bunch of mother-fucking, wife beating pedophiles, I think you would agree, unless you happen to belong to that group, that I have gone way over the top in my team assessment. There is a major difference between criticizing and defamation. Perhaps someday you will learn the difference. For the record, I have never heard of anyone using the term mafia while referring to the FOSS. Then again, the Mafia is a highly organized operation. I might also add that many people of Italian descent consider the term mafia offensive. I'm going to actually ignore your completely irrelevant and hilariously unfounded attempt at psychiatric diagnosis beyond this sentence, and get to the point: Ignoring for the moment http://linuxmafia.com it is true that I have generally not heard of open source software or its community referred to as mafia, but I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, or otherwise pejoratively accused of inapplicable political, criminal, or generally objectionable (in at least someone's eyes) character. Three guesses who comes first to mind as having made such statements, and the first two guesses don't count. I love the way you make a statement, then add a qualifier to the statement making it virtually impossible to attack as well as giving yourself a way out. I'll explain further in my reply near the end of this post. This is interesting coming from someone whose immediately preceding comment was an Internet diagnosis of paranoia coupled with a hypocritical accusation of inappropriate phrasing directed at a third party. I, for one, generally try to avoid saying nonfactually disparaging things about Microsoft or (especially) users of software peddled by Microsoft in venues like this mailing list, in part because it's a bit unsportsmanlike, and in part because it doesn't really contribute anything positive. It's kind of mind-boggling that people like you make no evident effort to avoid saying disparaging things about FreeBSD and its users in venues like this mailing list, where it's trollish, does not contribute anything positive, and directly offends large numbers of people subscribed to the list. When was this election held Chad? I am referring to the one that appointed you list spokesperson. In any case, you make an interesting statement without offering any documentation. Are you a politician Chad? I was inquiring because you seem to like making sound bites sans substance. I referred to no election. I am not list spokesperson, nor do I pretend to be or act as one, any more than you are the spokesperson for capitalism. I'm simply pointing out that you are an insufferable, trollish jackass, initially in a polite manner. The fact you avoid actually engaging my points, in favor of simply bleating about transgressions I haven't even made, does a fairly good job of supporting my statements. As stated above in my latest response, it is difficult to counter a statement by you since you don't really state anything. You say, I have heard of such things referred to as being socialist, fascist, ... (truncated by me) etcetera. Well who the hell hasn't. News flash -- that isn't one. Then you add the (in at least someone's eyes) qualifier making it impossible to argue with. A good politician's trick by the way. Are you sure you are not into politics? If it were not for your paranoia, you could probably be a good one. You say nothing and speak volumes. Seriously, look over your postings for the past year. Your transgressions I haven't even made and similar statements are reproduced in an alarming number of them. The obvious implication here is that you are one of those people who makes comments insinuating (or outright claiming) socialist or fascist ethics dominating open source communities. I make no bones about the fact I made implicative reference to you in that statement, so you don't need to play dumb and pretend you don't know I was pointing out your own hypocrisies. The at least in someone's eyes parenthetical remark was in reference to the presumably pejorative character of some remarks people like you often make. Nice job pretending I meant something else with that parenthetical remark, though. Your tendency to (intentionally, I think) misrepresent the context of my statements when you fail to find a concrete argument to present proves you're a real class act. What
Re: mysqld startup issue
Gary Aitken wrote: To: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mysqld startup issue I've done the following after having a running system with a running mysql on it: moved user accounts, although no logical move: /usr/home/foo was = /hd1/foo now /usr/home = /hd1/home and /hd1/foo is now /hd1/home/foo repartitioned the SSD and restored the system from a dump taken prior to repartitioning. removed all ports and reinstalled them Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: [ sneck ] 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. [ sneck ] This looks like some kind of access / setuid problem, but I'm not sure what. Suggestions? Have you tried doing what the error message _tells_ you to do ? If so, what happened? If not, why not? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Booting from ZFS with serial console
Hi all. I am in desperate need of some help with ZFS (maybe GPT) and serial consoles. I use 19200 for my console speed for everything, so I recompiled the boot blocks using BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED=19200 in /etc/make.conf. I then ran this to install new blocks to my two drives in the mirror pair: gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ad4 gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ad6 If the keyboard is plugged in when the machine starts up, all is good. With the keyboard unplugged, I get a small error dump followed by BTX Halted. I tried this with the files from the install DVD, and the same thing happens...BTX Halted without a keyboard plugged in. In both cases, /boot.config has : -P -S19200. I tried changing it to -Dh -S19200, and I get the BTX Halted on every boot now. Can someone please shed some light on why it's crashing like this? I'm fairly confident this behavior is a bug and not by design...but I can't believe that this bug would not be noticed up until now. Thanks! --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me. -- Bill Murray, Ghostbusters ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xfce 4.10 update problems
Warren Block wblock at wonkity.com writes: ... I have 2 mouses: Lenovo Thinkpad stick and external usb mouse. devd runs moused when USB mice are attached, even if moused_enable=NO is set in rc.conf. That's not a bad thing. It seems like enabling moused is needed somehow, maybe just to get a handle on the mice before HAL starts. Oops, I must have goofed multiple times. Disabling moused in rc.conf did just that for the default (built-in) mouse. $ ps auxww|grep -i mouse root1938 1.0 0.1 12340 2628 ?? S10:31PM 0:00.92 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) root1287 0.0 0.1 9716 1148 ?? Ss 10:31PM 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid root1958 0.0 0.1 12340 2516 ?? I10:31PM 0:00.01 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy) jb 2110 0.0 0.0 1928708 1 R+ 10:34PM 0:00.02 grep -i mouse No problem here. Thanks guys. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:44:36 -0600
Chad Perrin articulated:
As stated above in my latest response, it is difficult to counter a
statement by you since you don't really state anything. You say, I
have heard of such things referred to as being socialist,
fascist, ... (truncated by me) etcetera. Well who the hell hasn't.
News flash -- that isn't one. Then you add the (in at least
someone's eyes) qualifier making it impossible to argue with. A good
politician's trick by the way. Are you sure you are not into
politics? If it were not for your paranoia, you could probably be a
good one. You say nothing and speak volumes. Seriously, look over
your postings for the past year. Your transgressions I haven't even
made and similar statements are reproduced in an alarming number of
them.
The obvious implication here is that you are one of those people who
makes comments insinuating (or outright claiming) socialist or fascist
ethics dominating open source communities. I make no bones about the
fact I made implicative reference to you in that statement, so you
don't need to play dumb and pretend you don't know I was pointing out
your own hypocrisies.
The at least in someone's eyes parenthetical remark was in reference
to the presumably pejorative character of some remarks people like you
often make. Nice job pretending I meant something else with that
parenthetical remark, though. Your tendency to (intentionally, I
think) misrepresent the context of my statements when you fail to find
a concrete argument to present proves you're a real class act. What
class that is, I leave as an inference for the reader.
Your paranoia is working overtime now.
I'm not sure what you're talking about with regard to the
transgressions I haven't made. I did not refer to anyone as mafia
in this list, to my recollection, and I would be quite interested in
seeing verifiable quotes of me saying such a thing. I similarly do
not recall expressing a pathological fear of persecution here. I
pointed out that one person (not you) failed to say something
worthwhile in an earlier email, and that another person (you) have
unreasonable expectations if you really think that you have given
nobody any reason to call you a troll or refer to what you do as
flamebaiting when you show up in a FreeBSD community mailing list and
accuse open source software users and advocates of pejoratively
socialist, fascist, and otherwise reprehensible behavior in your eyes
just because they prefer something other than MS Windows, often
lumping an entire community in with a single noisy individual.
Oh, poor Chad. His feelings are hurt.
Chad, for some reason that totally escapes me at the moment, you feel
as if you are important enough for me to really care what you think.
News flash -- you aren't. I think of you as nothing more than an
incorrigible bore with an inflated ego. Your attempts to portray
yourself as an cognoscente while your persecution complex has pervaded
numerous posts you have responded to has become laughable. Perhaps you
are experiencing hypnagogic hallucinations. You really should consult
an expert in the field although I fear that you would be recalcitrant to
the idea.
It must be sad going through life feeling that everyone is casting
aspersions and heaping maledictions upon you. It is really sad.
Personally, I would much rather have a discussion with Poly. I respect
him, although I don't often agree with him. At least he discusses facts
and doesn't spend his time trying to defend himself against non existent
attacks.
If you want to reply back with actual facts pertinent to the subject of
this post, fine. Otherwise you are only wasting your time since I will
not play your sad woe is me game.
--
Jerry ♔ {This author has been Chad Perrin approved}
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Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
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text format
hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. --- JID:ipwn#cih.ms HP:ipwn.altervista.org PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
any way to grab just One port to upgrade?
it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[solved] Re: mysqld startup issue
Ugh. Operator error. I assumed from the docs there had to be a my.cnf file someplace, if only to serve as the system default; and that the my.cnf file was directing everything else. It turns out there doesn't have to be one anywhere. My thought process was hijacked by the errors produced from the missing --datadir option starting using: mysqld --datadir=path was all that was required, although clearly a my.cnf or ~/.my.cnf would make things easier. 120611 10:55:52 [Warning] Can't create test file /var/db/mysql/breakaway.lower-test mysqld: Table 'mysql.plugin' doesn't exist 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool 120611 10:55:52 InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation. InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to InnoDB: the directory. InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1 InnoDB: File operation call: 'create'. InnoDB: Cannot continue operation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mysqld startup issue
On 06/11/12 13:48, Robert Bonomi wrote: Unfortunately, mysqld won't start: [ sneck ] 120611 10:55:52 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it. Have you tried doing what the error message _tells_ you to do ? nope, and yup nope, because the docs clearly state that the server needs to be running. yup, because I did it anyway just to see what it would do If so, what happened? Unsurprisingly, it craps out saying it cannot connect to the server. problem was missing --datadir option when starting server ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of mind too. Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: how to allow by MAC
Bill == Bill Yuan byc...@gmail.com writes: Bill I want to create a white list MAC address, Only the machine which it's MAC Bill in the white list will be allowed, all others will be blocked. Bad idea. Since (a) every MAC address that *is* allowed is transmitted in the clear and (b) it's trivial to spoof a MAC address. This. is. no. security. Please stop even trying. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chromium 19 core dumps on launch...
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Keith Seyffarth w...@weif.net wrote: Friday I installed Chromium again because it would be nice to have a browser to test in other than Firefox and Opera. It was installed using portinstall -R chromium, which *appeared* to function properly. However, trying to run chrome results in: pid 50993 (chrome), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) From what I found online, it looked like I may have been encountering an issue with devel/google-perftools, but on reinstall was able to confirm that this is building with gcc not clang. I have also removed my ~/.config/chromium directory with no change in behavior. Not sure if it's relevant, but the last version of Chromium that was *functional* for me was 12. Versions 13-16 didn't support loading web pages (the browser would launch, but if I entered a URL in the address bar, I could leave the browser running overnight and it still wouldn't have started loading a page). Then when 17 and 18 wouldn't even compile (marked ignore), I just removed package. Please try 19.0.1084.56_1, devel/google-perftools is not a dependency of chromium anymore. Regards, George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwn pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. Most probably nroff / groff Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 04:53:11PM -0400, Jerry wrote: . . . You obviously aren't serious. I can't believe I let you string me along with this fantasy for so long. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
i pwn pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. From the output alone, one -cannot- tell for certain. That document could have been produced by any number of programs -- including, but not limited to 'electric pencil', 'pc-write', 'volkswriter', 'xywrite', 'wordstar', 'wordperfect', 'excel', and any form of 'runoff' or its descendants (including but limited to: 'rnf','troff', 'ditroff', 'nroff', 'groff' and others) or even a 'TeX' variant, such as 'LaTeX'. 'Considering the source', ditroff (or a varient) is likely. Probably using the 'me' macro set. There are output quirks that make it unlikely that the 'ms' macroes were used.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 From: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of mind too. Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. S. lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. it Just died. here are the last 20 lines:: gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' Making all in demos gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list\ apple_red ./apple-red.png \ gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \ test-inline-pixbufs.h \ || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h false) failed to load ./apple-red.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './apple-red.png' gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. root@ethic:/tmp# unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Voice By Computer (for Universal Access): http:/www.thought.org/vbc The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org Twenty-five years of service to the Unix community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?
This thread has united the open source community into doing something useful and constructive. Thanks guys. You really showed 'em. -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On 11-06-2012 23:40, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwnpwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. Most probably nroff / groff Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html *formatted. i've downloaded NroffEdit but when i open the ASCII text i want to convert/format, it says Not a valid nroff I-D what should i do? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? Thanks for the quick response. $ pkg_info|grep bash bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell $ which bash /bin/bash $ $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh #!/bin/bash LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started echo Exports started at `date` $LOG rm $HOME/postgresql/* psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql cd $HOME/postgresql tar cfz postgresql.tgz * rm *csv echo Exports finished at `date` $LOG logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: cat /etc/shells ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: You really have bash in /bin ? Are your scripts executable? What does /var/log/cron say? $ file /bin/bash /bin/bash: symbolic link to `/usr/local/bin/bash' $ sudo tail -50 /var/log/cron (result snipped at 02:22:00 for brevity) Jun 12 01:55:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1780]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1823]: (root) CMD (newsyslog) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1825]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1824]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1836]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/exports.sh) Jun 12 02:01:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1849]: (root) CMD (adjkerntz -a) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1874]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1875]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_etc.sh) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1912]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1913]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/systemcheck.sh) Jun 12 02:11:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1924]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1981]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1982]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_bsd.sh) Jun 12 02:20:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2013]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:22:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2025]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: cat /etc/shells $ cat /etc/shells # $FreeBSD: release/9.0.0/etc/shells 59717 2000-04-27 21:58:46Z ache $ # # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rbash $ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On 6/11/2012 9:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? Thanks for the quick response. $ pkg_info|grep bash bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell $ which bash /bin/bash $ $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh #!/bin/bash LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started echo Exports started at `date` $LOG rm $HOME/postgresql/* psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql cd $HOME/postgresql tar cfz postgresql.tgz * rm *csv echo Exports finished at `date` $LOG logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I tend to use full path names in my shell scripts. So for shits n giggles, try that. Instead of tar cfz postgresql.tgz * Try /bin/tar cfz postgresql.tgz * etc, etc, etc Use the paths for all commands such as rm, psql, logger etc. -- Keep well, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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I have a ASUS laptop that came with Windows 7. I finally ended up with XP on one partition and Ubuntu on the other. ASUS only supports the Windows 7 OS with this particular architect. I want to keep XP on one partition and put FreeBSD on the other partition ( I already have created). The problem is that the files I see for installation are ISO files for booting. I don't have audio in XP but it worked in Ubuntu. I was told by an authorized ASUS dealer that I would not find any support from them because of switching from the pre-installed Windows 7. I cannot update the drivers in the BIOS to tell my laptop to boot from DVD/CD. How can I get FreeBSD on my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. Thanks, Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:31:10 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 From: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of mind too. Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. S. lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. it Just died. here are the last 20 lines:: gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' Making all in demos gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list\ apple_red ./apple-red.png \ gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \ test-inline-pixbufs.h \ || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h false) failed to load ./apple-red.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './apple-red.png' gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. root@ethic:/tmp# unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports tree. If you're using csup instead of portsnap, you can get faster updates of your ports tree (as portsnap transmits snapshots which are less frequently taken). In case you intendedly need to DOWNgrade a port (maybe because the newer version doesn't work anymore, like the xzgv image viewer), use the portdowngrade tool. As it as been mentioned, having an out-of-sync ports tree is not recommended and can lead to trouble. So for example, if gtk20 fails, remove its cruft (make clean for this port and maybe its dependencies; maybe also remove the distfiles it downloaded), and update via CVS some hours after the incident. It sometimes happens that the problems magically resolve. :-) It's recommended to restart port builds in a somewhat clean environment, that's why it sometimes really helps to delete files of a previous build. Are you using a port management tool (e. g. portmaster) or do you operate on bare ports)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: note
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Arlen McIntyre fallofz...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. Dada is not dead! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:50:15 +, pwnedomina wrote: On 11-06-2012 23:40, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:57 PM, i pwnpwnedom...@gmail.com wrote: hi, sometime ago i asked a question about how to format a text, some people told me to use groff, but i would like to know how was file http://ipwn.altervista.org/files/Stoll,%20Clifford%20-%20The%20Cuckoo%27s%20Egg.txt fomatted. thanks in advance. Most probably nroff / groff Take a look at the info from the authoring tools at rfceditor: http://www.rfc-editor.org/formatting.html *formatted. i've downloaded NroffEdit but when i open the ASCII text i want to convert/format, it says Not a valid nroff I-D what should i do? Erm, you did open the output file (as pointed to), _not_ the source file? You're trying to edit text in a document you've scanned. :-) The output text can be edited with any text editor (vi, emacs, joe, mcedit, whichever is your favourite), but it will be kept in this format as it _has been_ generated that way (past tense). In order to change formatting, you need the SOURCE file with the macros. (Compare: HTML files rendered by browser: output looks different than input; to change it, you need to edit the HTML source.) You can compare that to editing a man page: You need the page's source (like found in /usr/src/share/examples/mdoc/example.1). The text's SOURCE file would have looked similarly I assume. THAT is the input format you need for the NroffEdit WYSIWYG text editor. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: note
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:36:00 -0600, Arlen McIntyre wrote: How can I get FreeBSD on my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? Qustion part one: Prepare a USB stick with the FreeBSD memstick edition. You'll find instructions on how to do that on the FreeBSD website, as well as the installation media. Preparation: Make sure you have _free_ disk space. This means: Do not create any DOS partitions, just leave it empty and let the installer perform the required tasks of partitioning and formatting. Question part two: Install the FreeBSD boot manager (which is one of the first steps during the installation process). You can then select at system startup which OS to boot into. I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. I'm sorry to hear that, but it won't be a problem. You won't go to jail, don't be frightened. Just install it. It's free. :-) No really: FreeBSD _is_ free to download and to use. You don't need to buy it (even though you _may_ do so; refer to the FreeBSD website for details). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 06:14:52PM -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:52 -0400 From: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: any way to grab just One port to upgrade? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: it is easy to cvs or cvsup ports and get a whole slew of ports in /usr/ports/distfiles, but too often, using portmaster [or another tool], I'll have only one of two ports that fail because they are either 1) broken, or 2) out of date. is there any way I can grab just the ones that fail to compile? I'm down to fewer than 50 ports. and wedged. You don't want to have /usr/ports out of sync. You want to let cvsup/portsnap do it's thing. It's ideal to have the whole ports collection up-to-date. You may want to start with a clean slate and cvsup/portsnap a fresh copy of the ports collection if you think that something is amiss. You can make a backup of /usr/ports for peace of mind too. Also, can you please supply exactly what ports you're talking about and what commands you are running to upgrade? Error output for the ports you say are broken would be another good thing to supply. something in x11-toolkits/gtk20 blew up. S. lolngstoryshrt, I rebuilt from scratch [[ from the very beginning ]] around 2 hours ago. it Just died. here are the last 20 lines:: gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/modules' Making all in demos gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' /usr/local/bin/gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --build-list \ apple_red ./apple-red.png \ gnome_foot ./gnome-foot.png \ test-inline-pixbufs.h \ || (rm -f test-inline-pixbufs.h false) failed to load ./apple-red.png: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './apple-red.png' gmake[2]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6/demos' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/work/gtk+-2.24.6' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20. root@ethic:/tmp# unless this port is known to be broken, I'll cvsup the ports tree. That may not be necessary. I'm building gtk20 on a freshly installed virtual machine with a freshly portsnap'd ports tree. I noticed the following in the CVS logs: CVS log for ports/x11-toolkits/gtk20/Makefile Revision 1.256: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for diffs Fri Jun 1 05:25:47 2012 UTC (10 days, 22 hours ago) by dinoex Branches: MAIN CVS tags: HEAD Diff to: previous 1.255: preferred, colored Changes since revision 1.255: +1 -1 lines - update png to 1.5.10 Since png just changed, and the error you encountered is failed to load ./apple-red.png: Couldn't recognize the image file, I think you may have run into a bug. I'll find out in the morning when the build is done. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: 'Syntactically valid', yes, but I believe it does not mean what you think it does applies. more below. $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. It _appears_ that there is whitespace _before_ the purporte 'minutes' value on each line that you intend to invoke a command. If so, -THAT- is probably what is causinng the unexpected behavior. I believe cron is looking for the 'minutes' value _before_ any white space, and using a value of '0' when it finds 'nothing' before the white-space Field-separator. That, thus, the all the commands run at 'zero minutes' past the various hours, on the -second- day of the month, and that command-line that cron would -attempt- to execute on the 2nd looks like, * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh, which, of course will have *wildly* unexpected results, epecially if the first element of the '*' expansion _is_ marked as executable. Remove the leading white-space and things should work the way you 'expect'. Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: note
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Arlen McIntyre wrote: I have a ASUS laptop that came with Windows 7. I finally ended up with XP on one partition and Ubuntu on the other. ASUS only supports the Windows 7 OS with this particular architect. I want to keep XP on one partition and put FreeBSD on the other partition ( I already have created). The problem is that the files I see for installation are ISO files for booting. I don't have audio in XP but it worked in Ubuntu. I was told by an authorized ASUS dealer that I would not find any support from them because of switching from the pre-installed Windows 7. I cannot update the drivers in the BIOS to tell my laptop to boot from DVD/CD. Really? What happens when you press F2 and keep it down during boot? How can I get FreeBSD on my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. FreeBSD is not for sale. It is free. Some services will sell releases on CD or DVD, generally at very affordable prices which are well worth it compared to downloading by dial-up. But what those services are selling is the media and the service of copying FreeBSD to the media and getting the media into your hands. You can download and/or install FreeBSD for free. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
