Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Polytropon wrote: For maximum security, you can use the "old" approach of using fdisk + disklabel (creating slice, creating partitions within slice). This also delivers most compatibility for other systems, if it should be needed, e. g. in a multiboot environment. gpart(8)

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Miller
I went through this exercise to determine if there were boundary issues installing FreeBSD on disks. I concluded that FreeBSD was indeed installing at head boundaries. A colleague then pointed me to http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2011-01-01.freebsd-on-4k-sector-drives.html which calls into question

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 07/06/2012 09:06 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: Slices isn't the "old" way. There is no perf advantage for dedicated disks. Maybe you get a few kb of extra space. Don't do it. http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/09.03.shtml That is EXTREME

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Slices isn't the "old" way. There is no perf advantage for dedicated > disks. Maybe you get a > few kb of extra space. Don't do it. > > http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/09.03.shtml That is EXTREMELY old advice. The general advice, for th

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:58:03 -0700, Eitan Adler wrote: > On 6 July 2012 11:44, Rick Miller wrote: > > Thanks for this explanation. > > > > Is there any performance advantage to using a "dedicated disk" layout > > over the old way of creating a slice and having your partitions within > > it? > > Sl

re. Hi i want to ask a question

2012-07-06 Thread herbert langhans
> Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it > posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this > specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I've been using even slower Thinkpads (300MHz), there are a few things to be aware of.

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Eitan Adler
On 6 July 2012 11:44, Rick Miller wrote: > Thanks for this explanation. > > Is there any performance advantage to using a "dedicated disk" layout > over the old way of creating a slice and having your partitions within > it? Slices isn't the "old" way. There is no perf advantage for dedicated dis

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Miller
[snip] >> I think Ryan means partition and not slice? >> I would not recommend no slices at all, It's deprecated to use >> "dangerously dedicated disks" > > First of all, it's "dedicated disks", there's nothing dangerous > related. :-) > > If you are using the MBR approach ("old way"), you can do

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 07/06/2012 08:25 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:47:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Ryan Coleman writes: > Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated > to FreeBSD Except for swap, right? Why do y

Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 07/06/2012 07:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:55:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: Are you root when mounting on the client? From looking at your prompt # I think you are, but I ask just to make sure. You can also take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/boo

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:47:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Ryan Coleman writes: > > > >> > Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated > >> > to FreeBSD > >> > >> Except for swap, right? > > Why do you say that? > > > > >

Re: Question about gmirror priorities

2012-07-06 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Michael Ross wrote: > Hi, > > the manpage says for ``gmirror label'': > > The order of components is important, > because a component's priority is based on its position > (starting from 0 to 255). > > > so I would expect to have different p

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I think Ryan means partition and not slice? I would not recommend no slices at all, It's deprecated to use "dangerously dedicated disks" Starting with 9 I don't see slices in mount ouput anymore but still there are FreeBSD partitions in slices (which is a partitions in dos terms) Example / is

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated to FreeBSD Except for swap, right? wrong. i said slices (==DOS/Windoze MBR partitions), not disklabel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/l

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Miller
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Sector 64 is sector 63 when you start at 0. OMG, so right...I cannot believe that went over my head! Thanks for pointing it out. It lets me know that diskPartitionEditor is automatically selecting start and end sectors at boundaries. Thank

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Ryan Coleman writes: > Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated > to FreeBSD Except for swap, right? Why do you say that? Robert huff I think Ryan means partition and not sl

Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:55:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Are you root when mounting on the client? > From looking at your prompt # I think you are, but I ask just to make > sure. > You can also take a look at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network- nfs.html > in the

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Robert Huff
Ryan Coleman writes: > > Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated > > to FreeBSD > > Except for swap, right? Why do you say that? Robert huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ma

Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:42:02 -0400, kpneal wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 04:03:27PM +, Walter Hurry wrote: >> I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also >> running the same. >> >> On the host I am running NFS server: >> >> $ showmount -e Exports list on localhost

Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 07/06/2012 06:03 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also running the same. On the host I am running NFS server: $ showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /usr/home Everyone But when I try to mount is on the client

Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-06 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> Not had tme to pursued it though. >>> & I dont feel like exporting that data public >>> in case its already gone too far. >> >> >> You don't have to export it at all. >> Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same >> file i

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Ryan Coleman
On 7/6/2012 11:43 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: automatically start partitions at head boundaries? The reason I ask is because I am most familiar with sector 64 being the start of a head boundary as opposed to 63. Is my understanding incorrect? yes. 63 is normal. Anyway just don't make slices at

Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not had tme to pursued it though. & I dont feel like exporting that data public in case its already gone too far. You don't have to export it at all. Can you confirm the data within is the same as say the same file in /etc or ~/.ssh? If that's really the case, it's a problem. the real problem i

Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
automatically start partitions at head boundaries? The reason I ask is because I am most familiar with sector 64 being the start of a head boundary as opposed to 63. Is my understanding incorrect? yes. 63 is normal. Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated to FreeBSD

NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

2012-07-06 Thread Walter Hurry
I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also running the same. On the host I am running NFS server: $ showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /usr/home Everyone But when I try to mount is on the client (the VM guest) I get this: # mount xx:/

Re: video buffer location

2012-07-06 Thread Harald Weis
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 11:27:44PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:34:21 +0200 > Actually Opera already has a setting: "Enable plug-ins only on > demand" (under preferences->advanced->content). It disables all > plugins by default and you can click on an individual placeholder to >

Re: [Bulk] "npviewer" error

2012-07-06 Thread Alexandre
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Carmel wrote: > I am running FreeBSD-8.3 STABLE amd64. I continually see this error > message in the "/var/log/messages" file: > > (npviewer.bin): syscall pipe2 not implemented > > The program crashes continually also. I have tried doing an R&R without > favorable

"npviewer" error

2012-07-06 Thread Robert Huff
Carmel writes: > I am running FreeBSD-8.3 STABLE amd64. I continually see this > error message in the "/var/log/messages" file: > > (npviewer.bin): syscall pipe2 not implemented > > The program crashes continually also. I have tried doing an R&R > without favorable results. Does anyone h

Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?

2012-07-06 Thread Rick Miller
Hi All, Installing FreeBSD 8.x I select "A" at the fdisk partition editor to use the entire disk. It creates an unused slice with offset 0 and 63 sectors in size. Then partition 1 starts at sector 63 and utilizes the remaining disk space. Does sysinstall's diskPartitonEditor macro automatically

"npviewer" error

2012-07-06 Thread Carmel
I am running FreeBSD-8.3 STABLE amd64. I continually see this error message in the "/var/log/messages" file: (npviewer.bin): syscall pipe2 not implemented The program crashes continually also. I have tried doing an R&R without favorable results. Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be

Question about gmirror priorities

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Ross
Hi, the manpage says for ``gmirror label'': The order of components is important, because a component's priority is based on its position (starting from 0 to 255). so I would expect to have different priorities for the components, yet both are listed with a priority of

Re: FreeBSD vs Hurd what is the differences?

2012-07-06 Thread Carsten Mattner
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Reference: >> From: Carsten Mattner >> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:28:32 +0200 >> Message-id: >> > > Carsten Mattner wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Wojciech Puchar >> wrote: >> >>> As for reading anything

Re: how to correctly distinguish broadcast udp packets vs unicast (socket, pcap or bpf)?

2012-07-06 Thread Budnev Vladimir
Tnx! Worked like a charm, with skipped init and other checks, just the control point parts: <...> int optval=1; setsockopt(root_socket, IPPROTO_IP, IP_RECVDSTADDR, &optval, sizeof(optval)) <...> char t[200]; unsigned int sender_len;

Re: Hi i want to ask a question

2012-07-06 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 04:05:36 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: > On part 1, it might be possible to build things on the old > machine, but only little things. It _will_ work, it just will take some time. If that isn't a major concern -- no problem. If the machine is low on RAM, there should at least be

Re: Hi i want to ask a question

2012-07-06 Thread Thomas Mueller
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: > Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) > is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 > 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and > 5gb HDD Polytropon responded: >

Re: Hi i want to ask a question

2012-07-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. You can but... too slow 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFC