Re: ttys file question

[Steve O'Hara-Smith]

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
Jack Mc Lauren  wrote:

> Thanks. Another question is how can I change the default values of e.g.
> databits, stopbits and ... for the device? I can set the speed
> in /etc/ttys.

Look at the man pages for sio and stty - all the details are there.

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Re: ttys file question

[Jack Mc Lauren]

>> But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I
>> change ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the
>> difference, would you please explain the reason for me?
>>
>In short the tty devices are for outgoing connections, the cua
>devices are for incoming connections.
>
>For more detail see sio(4), after all the detail about multi-port
>serial cards and their master ports comes a couple of paragraphs >describing
>the devices associated with each serial port in detail.
>
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Thanks. Another question is how can I change the default values of e.g. 
databits, stopbits and ... for the device?
I can set the speed in /etc/ttys.
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Re: ufs recovery

[Roland Smith]

On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 10:46:35AM +0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out
> one of the hard drives.  I had a little rsync script which I used to
> synchronise a directory between those two hard drives, because one of the
> hard drives were not present anymore and rsync had the --delete parameter I
> end up deleting the whole directory, of course with precious informations.

Ouch. I have a similar procedure going. But I put it in a shell-script that
mounts the destination _and_ checks if the destination is properly mounted 
_before_
starting the rsync. I would suggest you do something similar in the future.

Just to be clear, was the information deleted from _both_ harddisks?

> I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to
> avoid any writings on the disk.  Do you have any idea how can I recover the
> lost directory?

Do you perhaps have a snapshot of the filesystem in question available? If so,
you can mount that and restore the files from it. See e.g.:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/snapshots.html

If all else fails, have a look at sysutils/sleuthkit. Restoring deleted files
on UFS is very difficult, but you can find some pointers here:

http://wiki.sleuthkit.org/index.php?title=FS_Analysis#Manual_Deleted_File_Recovery

It helps if you know what kind of data is contained in the deleted file.

To prevent this from happening again, make regular backups e.g. to an external
harddisk that you use for that purpose alone.


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Re: ufs recovery

[Polytropon]

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 11:39:08 +0200, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> 
> Thank you very much for the information!
> Meanwhile I've found this software: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/, I'm going to 
> give a try.

That program was on my "famous list of recovery tools for
futile attempts". :-)

I may say that I have the same problem (of unclear origin).
Files have been removed, but the assumption that the data
could still be somewhere is alive. In such situations, you
would usually have two choices:

1. money

Get as much money as you can. You'll need it. Several 1000
euro / dollar / local currency will buy you service at a
company specialized in recovery. There is no guarantee they
will be successful.

2. time

You invest time in learning how UFS works. There are many
excellent articles (especially the authoritative one by
M. K. McKusick). You try out different tools (with different
scope). If you are lucky, you get your data back. (I was
lucky once, got my data back!)

There are _many_ good tools around. Most of them are free,
so you don't need to invest massive amounts of money in a
repeating "trial & error" process.



Allow me to repeat my list (which gets a little bit modified
each time I post it to this list):

OS tools:

fetch -rR 
recoverdisk

Ports collection:

ddrescue
dd_rescue   <- use this to create images to work with
magicrescue
testdisk<- restores content
recoverjpeg
foremost
photorec
ffs2recov
scan_ffs
tsk <- The Sleuth Kit
fls
dls
ils
autopsy

There are some commercial tools worth mentioning: "UFS Explorer"
can be run in wine. It probably won't restore your data, but it
can be used to determine if there is something to restore. Also
consider "R-Studio" and "R-Studio Emergency" (live CD). Those
offer free versions that can be used for testing.

Finally, I'd like to mention The Sleuth Kit. It's one of the
most powerful toolsets, also used in forensics and investigation.

As I said, I ran into a similar problem (files deleted). Maybe
you can find this discussion thread in the archives and gain
some more inspiration from it. A massive data loss (meanwhile
cured!) brought me to this list, so I continue to spread my
experience about recovery when needed. :-)



Good luck!



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Re: ttys file question

[jb]

Jack Mc Lauren  yahoo.com> writes:

> 
> Hi list
> 
> I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6
under FreeBSD. In order to do that,
> I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this:
> 
> ttyu6   " std.115200" cons25  on secure
> 
> But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I
change ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works
> fine! I don't understand the difference, would you please explain the
reason for me?
> 
> Thanks in advance 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms.html
26.3. Terminals
26.4. Dial-in Service 
26.5. Dial-out Service

jb





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Re: ttys file question

[Steve O'Hara-Smith]

On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 09:40:44 -0700 (PDT)
Jack Mc Lauren  wrote:

> But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I
> change ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the
> difference, would you please explain the reason for me?

In short the tty devices are for outgoing connections, the cua
devices are for incoming connections.

For more detail see sio(4), after all the detail about multi-port
serial cards and their master ports comes a couple of paragraphs describing
the devices associated with each serial port in detail.

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Re: ufs recovery

[Laszlo Danielisz]

Thanks Graeme, 

Also my vga card is broken, probably tomorrow I'm getting a new one and I can 
give a try. 




On 2013 September 8 Sunday at 6:16 PM, Graeme Dargie wrote:

> Assuming the disk has not been written to, then making a full DD image of the 
> drive is your 1st step, then make a copy of that DD image and store it 
> somewhere safe in case something goes wrong with the one you are working on. 
> You can try Foremost which can recover data even deleted stuff from a DD 
> image, there was another package that works on the command line but I cannot 
> recall the name of it just now. Your success rate will depend on the type of 
> data you are trying to recover, from experience foremost works better on 
> certain types of files. 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Graeme Dargie
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Laszlo Danielisz
> Sent: 08 September 2013 09:47
> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: ufs recovery
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one 
> of the hard drives.
> I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between 
> those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present 
> anymore and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up deleting the whole 
> directory, of course with precious informations. 
> 
> I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to 
> avoid any writings on the disk.
> Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory? 
> 
> Thank you!
> Laci
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ttys file question

[Jack Mc Lauren]

Hi list

I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6 under 
FreeBSD. In order to do that, I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this:

ttyu6   " std.115200" cons25  on secure

But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I change 
ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the difference, would 
you please explain the reason for me?

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RE: ufs recovery

[Graeme Dargie]

Assuming the disk has not been written to, then making a full DD image of the 
drive is your 1st step, then make a copy of that DD image and store it 
somewhere safe in case something goes wrong with the one you are working on. 
You can try Foremost which can recover data even deleted stuff from a DD image, 
there was another package that works on the command line but I cannot recall 
the name of it just now. Your success rate will depend on the type of data you 
are trying to recover, from experience foremost works better on certain types 
of files. 


Regards
Graeme Dargie
-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Laszlo Danielisz
Sent: 08 September 2013 09:47
To: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: ufs recovery

Hi,

By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one 
of the hard drives.
I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between 
those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present anymore 
and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up deleting the whole directory, of 
course with precious informations. 

I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to 
avoid any writings on the disk.
Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory? 

Thank you!
Laci
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Re: ufs recovery

[Frank Leonhardt]

On 08/09/2013 10:39, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
On 2013.09.08., at 11:07, Frank Leonhardt > wrote:



On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

Hi,

By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I 
took out one of the hard drives.
I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory 
between those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were 
not present anymore and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up 
deleting the whole directory, of course with precious informations.


I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the 
computer to avoid any writings on the disk.

Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory?

Thank you!
Laci



Hi Laci,

I'm sorry to have to tell you that recovering UFS is not easy. It's 
not like MS-DOS or NFTS at all in that respect. When you delete from 
UFS it removes inode data and adds the space released to the free 
block list. It's a one-way process; there is no journalling and no 
way to undo any of it.


I don't know of any public domain utilities that will do what you 
need. EnCase can do something with UFS, and a utility called "Raise 
Data Recovery" will get stuff from damaged disks. This isn't the same 
as getting back deleted files.


The only option I've ever found to work is to scan the disk's free 
blocks (all of them in your case) with a utility that recognises 
specific file formats and pieces the file together using the contents 
it reads from each block, using "best guess" and manual choice to 
decide which the next block is. This is no joke if you've lost a lot 
of files, but worth it if you have one or two vital ones amongst them.


Sorry I can't be of any more comfort. As I'm sure someone will chip 
in, there are things you can do before the event.


Regards, Frank.



Hi Frank,

Thank you very much for the information!
Meanwhile I've found this software: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/, I'm 
going to give a try.



Regards,
Laci



That's the company that produces the "Raise Data Recovery" product I 
mentioned. However, I believe it's better for recovering data from a 
broken FS in the case of UFS2, not for undeleteing a whole 
directory/disk full of "deliberately" deleted files. I just checked, and 
it has a try-before-buy feature so you have nothing to lose. Good luck, 
and please keep us informed!


FWIW I use Pandora for jobs similar to this, although it doesn't 
specifically support UFS. Piriform's Recuva also has its uses. But where 
UFS is involved I've failed to find a magic solution - just recovery 
from a backup unless it's one or two odd files. About the only thing you 
have going for you with UFS is the directory retains the file name after 
deletion if you haven't created any new files over it. But the inode 
(where it is on the disk) is another matter.


Regards, Frank.

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Re: ufs recovery

[Laszlo Danielisz]

Hi Frank,

Thank you very much for the information!
Meanwhile I've found this software: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/, I'm going to 
give a try.


Regards,
Laci

Sent from my mobile. 

On 2013.09.08., at 11:07, Frank Leonhardt  wrote:

> On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out 
>> one of the hard drives.
>> I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between 
>> those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present 
>> anymore and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up deleting the whole 
>> directory, of course with precious informations.
>> 
>> I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to 
>> avoid any writings on the disk.
>> Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory?
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> Laci
> 
> Hi Laci,
> 
> I'm sorry to have to tell you that recovering UFS is not easy. It's not like 
> MS-DOS or NFTS at all in that respect. When you delete from UFS it removes 
> inode data and adds the space released to the free block list. It's a one-way 
> process; there is no journalling and no way to undo any of it.
> 
> I don't know of any public domain utilities that will do what you need. 
> EnCase can do something with UFS, and a utility called "Raise Data Recovery" 
> will get stuff from damaged disks. This isn't the same as getting back 
> deleted files.
> 
> The only option I've ever found to work is to scan the disk's free blocks 
> (all of them in your case) with a utility that recognises specific file 
> formats and pieces the file together using the contents it reads from each 
> block, using "best guess" and manual choice to decide which the next block 
> is. This is no joke if you've lost a lot of files, but worth it if you have 
> one or two vital ones amongst them.
> 
> Sorry I can't be of any more comfort. As I'm sure someone will chip in, there 
> are things you can do before the event.
> 
> Regards, Frank.
> 
> 
> 
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Fw: ttys file question

[Jack Mc Lauren]

Hi list

I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6 under 
FreeBSD. In order to do that, I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this:

#Serial terminlas
#The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyu6  "/usr/libexec/getty  std.115200" cons25 on secure


But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I change 
ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the difference, would 
you please explain the reason for me?

Thanks in advance 
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Re: ufs recovery

[Frank Leonhardt]

On 08/09/2013 09:46, Laszlo Danielisz wrote:

Hi,

By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one 
of the hard drives.
I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between 
those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present anymore 
and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up deleting the whole directory, of 
course with precious informations.

I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to 
avoid any writings on the disk.
Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory?

Thank you!
Laci



Hi Laci,

I'm sorry to have to tell you that recovering UFS is not easy. It's not 
like MS-DOS or NFTS at all in that respect. When you delete from UFS it 
removes inode data and adds the space released to the free block list. 
It's a one-way process; there is no journalling and no way to undo any 
of it.


I don't know of any public domain utilities that will do what you need. 
EnCase can do something with UFS, and a utility called "Raise Data 
Recovery" will get stuff from damaged disks. This isn't the same as 
getting back deleted files.


The only option I've ever found to work is to scan the disk's free 
blocks (all of them in your case) with a utility that recognises 
specific file formats and pieces the file together using the contents it 
reads from each block, using "best guess" and manual choice to decide 
which the next block is. This is no joke if you've lost a lot of files, 
but worth it if you have one or two vital ones amongst them.


Sorry I can't be of any more comfort. As I'm sure someone will chip in, 
there are things you can do before the event.


Regards, Frank.



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ufs recovery

[Laszlo Danielisz]

Hi,

By mistake I forgot to edit my crontab on my FreeBSD 8.3 after I took out one 
of the hard drives.
I had a little rsync script which I used to synchronise a directory between 
those two hard drives, because one of the hard drives were not present anymore 
and rsync had the --delete parameter I end up deleting the whole directory, of 
course with precious informations. 

I have ufs on the hdd, after the "accident" I've turned off the computer to 
avoid any writings on the disk.
Do you have any idea how can I recover the lost directory? 

Thank you!
Laci
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ttys file question

[Jack Mc Lauren]

Hi list


I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6 under 
FreeBSD. In order to do that, I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this:

# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyu6   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25  on secure


But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I change 
ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the difference, would 
you please explain the reason for me?

Thanks in advance 
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ttys file question

[Jack Mc Lauren]

Hi list

I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6 under 
FreeBSD. In order to do that, I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this:

# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyu6   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25  on secure


But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I change 
ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the difference, would 
you please explain the reason for me?

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Re: Spam control (was: Let People Find You in Google!)

[Graham Todd]

>There has indeed been a higher spam:ham ratio on this list of late, 
>however making it subscriber-only won't help. The crims need only
>spoof the address of someone subscribed to the list to bypass that,
>and I suspect a few spammers have registered using false addresses
>anyway (leading to a bounce to anyone posting).
>
>Piping it through Spamassassin as it arrives at mx1.freebsd.org, 
>although this isn't so effective against people using freemail
>accounts. Closing down irresponsibly run freemail operators would be a
>big help, but it's not going to happen.
>
>If anyone wants to discuss this OFF LIST, I'm up for it.
>
>Regards, Frank.

Count me in!

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Re: Let People Find You in Google!

[Graham Todd]

> Isn't this pure SPAM?  

>Why yes it is. Would you prefer it mixed with non-spam to make it more
>palatable?

Now, Now, I never expected to see sarcasm on this list:-)

As far as I remember, this post wasn't the only incidence of SPAM that
day, and so I'd have to agree with you.  Until the Mods find a way to
filter most spam (the list will perhaps forgive the odd oversight),
people will call for more and more draconian measures that will not be
really effective.

One way is to make the list a members list where the members have to
agree to a Code of Conduct or the Mods COULD bar them from
participating, but it not the only way  Lets have a non-heated
debate about ways to reduce SPAM on the list in order to get some
consensus, then put any proposal to all the existing list members.

In other words, lets have some democracy when dealing with these thorny
issues.

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Re: What's happening to my asciidoc?

[David Demelier]

On 06.09.2013 22:52, Warren Block wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2013, David Demelier wrote:
> 
>> 2013/9/6 Warren Block :
>>>
>>> asciidoc \
>>>   -a data-uri \
>>>   -a icons \
>>>   -a iconsdir=/usr/local/etc/asciidoc/images/icons \
>>>   -d article \
>>>   -a stylesheet=~/docs/stylesheets/wb-html.css \
>>>   -a toc \
>>>   -a revdate="2013-09-05" \
>>>   -a year="2013" \
>>>   -a max-width=80em \
>>>   pxe.txt
>>>
>>> That stylesheet is just my changes to the default, which change the link
>>> visited color from pink to red and add rounded corners to listing
>>> blocks.
>>
>> Did you touch the asciidoc configuration ? For me it seems to work
>> *only* if I use html5 backend, otherwise it produces this:
>> http://www.demelierdavid.fr/article.html.
> 
> Not that I recall, and pkg-info -g asciidoc-8.6.8_1 does not show anything.

I've found the problem but can't fix it. The xhtml11.conf is the copy of
wordpress.conf.

I've sent a PR: ports/181869

Note that this only happen when I use pkgng + poudriere.

Regards,
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