Re: How to ask a DNS resolver listening on a different port than the tcp/udp 53
Laurent SALIN salin.laurent at laposte.net writes: Hello, I wondering how i can send queries to a dns resolver listening on a different port than the normaly 53 tcp/udp ? The situation: I've got a vps who running NSD as a autoritative nameserver, listening on tcp/udp 53 and unbound as personnal resolver, listening on a different tcp/udp port. It work very well on his own or with my OpenBSD gateway at home as DNS cache. Recently i've got a new FreeBSD VPS and I want to use the first VPS as DNS nameserver for the second VPS but FreeBSD is unable to send queries to nameserver on a different port as the normal one (tcp/udp 53). I've got a bad solution, use unbound on the second VPS and maybe tell him to ask the 1rst VPS on the unusual tcp/udp port, but I wonder myself if is it possible with Packet Filter to change the destination port of the queries forwarded to my 1rst VPS from tcp/udp 53 to tcp/udp 5353 for exemple ? Or maybe anybody got a other solution ? I hope you'll understand me :-/ Laurent SALIN Well, I hope I understand you. You use DNS Proxy server, like BIND or DNSMASQ. With BIND you have options in /etc/named.conf: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/queries.html forward forwarders I do not know how DNSMASQ configures it, if at all - you would have to download original package with full documentation. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ttys file question
Jack Mc Lauren jack.mclauren at yahoo.com writes: Hi list I'm trying to connect to my server via a serial port which is named ttyu6 under FreeBSD. In order to do that, I've decided to change /etc/ttys file like this: ttyu6 std.115200 cons25 on secure But I can not connect to my server with this configuration. But if I change ttyu6 to cuau6, everything works fine! I don't understand the difference, would you please explain the reason for me? Thanks in advance http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms.html 26.3. Terminals 26.4. Dial-in Service 26.5. Dial-out Service jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Assign program call to a key
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: Is there a way to assign a predefined program call to a key in X, _independently_ from the window manager or desktop environment in use? ... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg It may give you some hints. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dhcp server returns core dump when i define network with mask 8
s m sam.gh1986 at gmail.com writes:
and thank you jb but if i define my network like below, server runs
correctly:
log-facility local7;
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 {
range 192.168.0.1 192.168.255.255;
}
i think 192.168.255.55 is reserved for broadcast too. is it not true? if
yes, why dhcp server works correctly?
please help me to clear my mind.
regards,
SAM
Regarding subnets:
192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0
is equivalent to
192.168.0.0/16
which splits it into a network id 192.168. and host id .0.0
Another example:
192.168.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0
is equivalent to
192.168.0.0/8
which splits it into a network id 192. and host id 168.0.0
Regarding broadcast address:
yes, for subnet 192.168.0.0/16 the broadcast ip is 192.168.255.255 .
What are the implications of including broadcast ip in range option ?
Firstly, it depends on how the authors of software, that is DHCP server,
interpreted the dhcpd.conf option data. They could have rejected that
option up front, or accept it (implying you are the boos !).
After all, dhcpd.conf(5) only says:
The range statement
range [ dynamic-bootp ] low-address [ high-address];
For any subnet on which addresses will be assigned dynamically, there
must be at least one range statement. The range statement gives
the lowest and highest IP addresses in a range. All IP addresses in
the range should be in the subnet in which the range statement is declared.
Well, looks good to me so far !
Next, dhcpd.conf(5) describes how DHCP server deals with:
DYNAMIC ADDRESS ALLOCATION
...
IP ADDRESS CONFLICT PREVENTION
...
You can analyse it and see if any trouble lurks there ...
Secondly, let's assume there was no problem and that ip was dispensed to a host.
But, in a different place of IP specs there is a RFC??? which says that
the 192.168.255.255 as a generically valid ip address will assume some
additional meaning, that is it will be treated as a broadcast address
(it will represent all hosts on a subnet).
Wow ! That should give you a pause ...
It is said that the broadcast address is used by an application to send
the same message to all other hosts in the network simultaneously.
Who is using it ?
Well, our client host is using it (let's assume it was assigned that ip
above ...).
What happens when the host sends a packet out with a source ip address of
a broadcast ip address ? One can imagine that the destination host will
respond and send back a packet to a destination ip address which is our
sender's broadcast ip address ... You mean to every host on that network ?
Something fishy is on the way ...
But while doing it, it will utilize some protocols, like ARP, RIP, etc.
In addition, it is said that broadcast messages are typically produced by
network protocols such as the Address Resolution Protocol (ARP) and
the Routing Information Protocol (RIP).
They will utilize that ip broadcast address regardless of the fact that it
has been presumably assigned to the client host too.
Wow, what a soup ...
Enjoy it while it lasts :-)
jb
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Re: dhcp server returns core dump when i define network with mask 8
s m sam.gh1986 at gmail.com writes:
...
subnet 192.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 {
range 192.0.0.1 192.255.255.255;
The 'range' denotes IP addresses that can be allocated to clients.
The IP 192.255.255.255 is a reserved broadcast address for the network.
jb
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UEFI Secure Boot
Hi, according to distrowatch.com: FreeBSD developer Marshall Mickusick told IT Wire that the FreeBSD team would probably follow in the footsteps of cutting-edge Linux distributions. Indeed we will likely take the Linux shim loader, put our own key in it, and then ask Microsoft to sign it. Since Microsoft will have already vetted the shim loader code, we hope that there will be little trouble getting them to sign our version for us. http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/60498-freebsd-begins-process-to-support-secure-boot I am just wondering why Linus Torvald is concerned about Microsoft's role ... http://www.zdnet.com/torvalds-clarifies-linuxs-windows-8-secure-boot-position-711918/ I hope FreeBSD (and other OSs) luminaries, devs and users will find a way not to harm themselves. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UEFI Secure Boot
Mike Jeays mike.jeays at rogers.com writes: On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 02:31:40 +0200 Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 16:21:28 + (UTC), jb wrote: I hope FreeBSD (and other OSs) luminaries, devs and users will find a way not to harm themselves. A massive problem I (personally) have is that with Restricted Boot (this is what Secure Boot basically is) you are no longer able to _ignore_ MICROS~1 and their products. A restrictive boot loader mechanism that requires signed and confirmed keys, handled by a major offender of free decisions and a healthy market - no thanks. What prevents MICROS~1 from revoking keys of a possible competitor? Or from messing with the specs just that things start breaking? ... If I have understood correctly, it is quite easy to disable secure boot on most current machines; it is just an option in the UEFI setup. The real danger is machines where it cannot be disabled. This includes some recent HP machines; whether by design or incompetence I cannot say. As readers on distrowatch.com put it regarding Secure Boot: Secure Boot can be turned off completely or, custom mode entered and other keys added if so desired thus avoiding the need to deal with Microsoft. Although it does add extra steps to installing a Linux or BSD system it's not that difficult to deal with and Secure Boot is part of the UEFI specifications, not Microsoft's. In some cases Secure Boot CANNOT be turned off completely, and in other cases Secure Boot may be desired. In theses cases, an independent authority should be signing the key, NOT Microsoft. We shouldn't have to forgo the use of Secure Boot to avoid dealing with Microsoft. It deeply disturbs me that Linux and BSD projects must grovel before Microsoft to get their key signed to be allowed to install their OS. Why should MS have such power? There should be an independent entity to handle this. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this a memory error?
Dennis Glatting freebsd at pki2.com writes: Is this message indicating I have a memory error? I'm seeing this message across two systems, one below: FreeBSD mc 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #0 r252678: Thu Jul 4 03:47:52 PDT 2013 root at mc:/usr/obj/disk-1/src/sys/SMUNI amd64 Jul 4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Bank 2, Status 0x981a400c0176 Jul 4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Global Cap 0x0107, Status 0x Jul 4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Vendor AuthenticAMD, ID 0x600f12, APIC ID 72 Jul 4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: CPU 24 COR DCACHE L2 EVICT error Jul 4 15:11:10 mc kernel: MCA: Misc 0x0 Google search: kernel: MCA: Bank , Status DCACHE L2 EVICT error http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-August/220060.html http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24447 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A very 'trivial' question about /root
Julian H. Stacey jhs at berklix.com writes: jb.1234abcd at gmail.com 's ref to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578470 relates to Linux upgrade procedures /root I don't see it affects how we should perceive an idealised Unix. The upgrade was a canary that told the user there is a problem. The idealized UNIX is standardized. According to Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS), a UNIX standard: /root : Home directory for the root user (optional) Purpose The root account's home directory may be determined by developer or local preference, but this is the recommended default location. [17] [17] If the home directory of the root account is not stored on the root partition it will be necessary to make certain it will default to / if it can not be located. The above means that there has to be implied equivalency and consistency of permisssions between /root and / in order to ensure trouble-free operation of any process that may rely on any of them. That Linux case I referred to was a case about a system that relied on the above 0755 setup for /root dir, with an interesting twist of having it as a dummy account/dir for consistency, but having other accounts play the role of a superuser. Another example: some app (perhaps an installer) runs as non-root (e.g. Apache) user and needs to be able to read the root ssh public key from /root dir. There could be many such apps, accessing a front-end system, having to check for permission in /root dir for whatever they want to do, anywhere in sys admin, remote control, management, installation, etc areas. By changing this default you may ambush many unsuspecting users. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A very 'trivial' question about /root
ASV asv at inhio.eu writes: Mine is just a concern about these permission defaults which look to me a bit too relaxed and cannot find yet a reason why not to restrict it. After all I believe having good default settings may make the difference in some circumstances and/or save time. I think the 0755 permissions for /root are correct as default. If you are concerned about others, you harden it to 0750 (after all you are the boos, the root, anyway). Otherwise, you may create conditions which cause trouble for others, for example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578470 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Bourne shell if syntax
Michael Sierchio kudzu at tenebras.com writes: ... Right. Many scripts seem to assume that sh is bash, and that's certainly not the case here. if [ x$BLAH = x ]; then is the most reliable and portable way of determining if it's a string of zero length. Actually this trick is not needed any more (it has not been required for long time because the problem was fixed). http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/hotspot-runtime-dev/2012-August/004275.html jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: ... Yes, there is some confusion about the diff, if any, between paging and swapping. Paging - copying or moving pages between physical memory (RAM) and secondary storage (e.g. hard disk), in both directions. Swapping - nowdays is synonymous with paging. But its history is as follows (per Wikipedia): This is a bit Linux-centric. ... You page-out pages and swap-out processes. When FreeBSD is very short of memory it swaps-out entire processes to concentrate the memory in the running processes. Linux goes directly from paging to killing processes. That was helpful - knowing the details of VMM implementation in various OSs helps understand the generalizations, with exceptions ... jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:36:42 + (UTC) jb wrote: But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. No, there are thing that are better on disk than in memory. The most common example is tmpfs. It's much better that files left on tmpfs can sent to disk rather tying up physical memory indefinitely. Yup, tmpfs - in virtual memory. That's an unfortunate excuse. But before its content are swapped out, the critical system like a server will be destabilized and show lame performance. The tmp-on-tmpfs has so many disadvantages that it is difficult to count and follow all of them. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
Fred Morcos fred.morcos at gmail.com writes: .. The improvement effect can be noticed on large inputs. These algorithms will most probably perform quite badly on small inputs. I think your concern has been addressed in review of various algos where base case identification helped to avoid overhead cost in small problem sizes relative to cache. http://erikdemaine.org/papers/BRICS2002/paper.pdf In light of available but not implemented better VMM algos, perhaps *BSD and Linux could eliminate or reduce the need for: - swap space - swapping out RAM even if there is no lack of it - overcommitment of memory (a bluff asking to be punished by OOM killer) - OOM killer Besides, they allow sloppy/dangerous programming. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Sun, 26 May 2013 12:36:42 + (UTC) jb wrote: But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. No, there are thing that are better on disk than in memory. The most common example is tmpfs. It's much better that files left on tmpfs can sent to disk rather tying up physical memory indefinitely. BTW you mean paging, or swap use, rather that swapping. Linux supports only paging, so it can be taken as read that swapping means paging, but FreeBSD supports both. Yes, there is some confusion about the diff, if any, between paging and swapping. Paging - copying or moving pages between physical memory (RAM) and secondary storage (e.g. hard disk), in both directions. Swapping - nowdays is synonymous with paging. But its history is as follows (per Wikipedia): Historically, swapping referred to moving from/to secondary storage a whole program at a time, in a scheme known as roll-in/roll-out. In the 1960s, after the concept of virtual memory was introduced — in two variants, either using segments or pages — the term swapping was applied to moving, respectively, either segments or pages, between memory and disk. Today with the virtual memory mostly based on pages, not segments, swapping became a fairly close synonym of paging. You say that FB supports both, Linux supports paging only. Well, Linux utilizes swap space as part of virtual memory. So, can you elaborate more on that - what is the essence of the diff, why should I avoid the term swapping when referring to Linux, assuming VMM systems on both ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
Follow up comment. It has been pointed out to me that there is Varnish software taking advantage of system VMM and swap space. Well, there are cache-oblivious algorithms that perform as well, and so they make the above (disk access model; cache-aware model) unnecessary (obsolete ?) and are superior in their generality. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re:
M. V. bored_to_death85 at yahoo.com writes: ... Swapping by itself can decrease system reliability due to possible data corruption on swap disk or during two-way transfers, with subsequent incorrect RAM and machine crash. But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. ... http://blog.jcole.us/2010/09/28/mysql-swap-insanity-and-the-numa-architecture/ Very interesting point. - do you think this could hurt my server's stability too? (most of its work is a noticeable amount of packet-forwarding, and other network services, like firewall, dhcp server, ntp server, etc) - if so, in what conditions? can I do something to prevent this? or should I just get rid of the swap partition? - does swap partition do any good for me at all? I mean if we even suppose nothing bad happens because of it, is it worth risking to keep it? thank you. I wish there was a clear answer. There are two schools practised by server owners: - with swap space (partition or file) They see swapping as a symptom (of a problem, real or potential), and they treat it as a useful early warning device that gives them time to act. If prolonged or unattended, swapping may slow down the system and even end up in thrashing, which is close to a terminal state. - no swap space They are purists - when they set up a server for a specific purpose they know it (requirements, apps run, resources assigned) and they are in charge. No sissy swapping, they do not trust those kernel algos, etc. They know that out-of-memory kernel killer may terminate a process (perhaps not the one they would expect) in case of memory crunch, but they think they can live with it by closely watching system and app state indicators to prevent that from happening. In the end it comes down to owner's preferences. If in doubt, try with and without swap space and see how it works in your particular environment. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: swap partition leads to instability?
M. V. bored_to_death85 at yahoo.com writes: hi everyone, I have a 24/7 network server/gateway with FreeBSD-8.2 on a SSD drive. it's partitioned as normal (/ , /tmp, /var , /usr and swap) for a long time now. But recently I heard from a FreeBSD expert that I shouldn't have swap partition for my server, and having swap partition could make my server unstable. this was so strange for me, and I searched a lot but couldn't find a reason for this claim. so my question is simple: - could having a swap partition, be a bad thing for my FreeBSD server? and if so, why and in what conditions? Cheers! Hi, I think your FB expert was up to something. I bet he spoke out of experience. Swapping by itself can decrease system reliability due to possible data corruption on swap disk or during two-way transfers, with subsequent incorrect RAM and machine crash. But, swapping is also a symptom, not a problem. It is never a good idea to let it get to that point. Badly written, architected, or tuned server app or system are the reason. Think of RDBMS/SQL server processing real-time on-line transactions and how much it goes into setting it up properly for a heavy use. On a smaller scale, consider this example: http://blog.jcole.us/2010/09/28/mysql-swap-insanity-and-the-numa-architecture/ jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: where is 1GB of RAM
Wojciech Puchar wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: new dell server: ... real memory = 34359738368 (32768 MB) avail memory = 33167446016 (31630 MB) where did 1GB of memory go? - new BIOS firmware available ? - BIOS - preallocation - graphics card ? - $ sysctl -a |grep -i mem jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Reading the handbook from console
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... The is a famous library, svgalib, a low level console graphics library which can - under _very_ specific circumstances - display graphics on the text mode console. There are few browsers, image viewers and even media players that can use this interface to display console graphics while _not_ needing X. ... Works fine on FreeBSD -- graphics-mode screen-savers (like 'fire') use it. ... Yes, it is famous indeed ... Is that still valid ? www.svgalib.org/svgalib.user.faq.html ... Why does a programs terminate immediatelly with svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.? svgalib programs need to be run as root. This means that either the user that runs them is root, or, if running by normal users is desirable, the program needs to be 'suid root', which means: the program must be owned by root (chown 0 program) and the suid bit needs to be set (chmod u+s program). ... jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
A serious flaw in Java
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Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Next problem: the FB 9.1 dmesg differs on: - VB VM pnp bios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum ... orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff pnpid ORM on isa0 Correction - on real hardware none of the above dmesg: ... isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xc,0xe-0xe pnpid ORM on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 ... That msg in FB VM: pnp bios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum it means what is says - do not trust it; or also do not use PnP ? But it may also mean a problem accessing it in VM only, as opposed to a real machine. Searched Google, it shows often, but no clear interpretation. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: Hi, host=CentOS guest=FreeBSD in VirtualBox FB 9.1 installation seemed to be normal (there was a one page text at the end that quickly disappeared, but could not catch it ...), Perhaps those messages I could not catch were relevant, because it seems that the installation did not finish properly (most of base dirs and kernel dir were not populated) - it just died. I guessed that 192MB RAM assigned to VM was insufficient. This has been already reported for FB 9.1 recently. Next problem: the installation's dmesg shows net driver em0, which is Intel PRO/1000 - and this is how install offers to configure the network; but my host has Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express, which is bge0 driver in FB. How to force it to discover the right net device during install, and/or after install ? Next problem: I selected powerd service during install, but after boot, there was error msg: starting powerd powerd lookup freq: No such file or directory /etc/rc: WARNING failed to start powerd Next problem: when I am logged out from FB, and I do (I tested it repeatedly) Machine-Close-Power off the machine to cloce VM with FB, then on subsequent VM Start and FB reboot I get error msgs: ... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [rw]... WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ... Starting file system checks: ** SU+J Recovering /dev/ada0s1a ... but when I do Machine-Close-Send the shutdown signal there are no errors, just normal msgs: ... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [rw]... ... Starting file system checks: /dev/ada0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS ... jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Matthew Seaman matthew at FreeBSD.org writes: On 06/01/2013 11:19, jb wrote: Next problem: the installation's dmesg shows net driver em0, which is Intel PRO/1000 - and this is how install offers to configure the network; but my host has Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express, which is bge0 driver in FB. How to force it to discover the right net device during install, and/or after install ? This is normal for VirtualBox -- it doesn't matter what NIC the host has, VB always presents it as an em(4) interface to the guest. Cheers, Matthew OK. But I also could not ping: $ ping -c 1 google.com I have VM-Settings-Network Attached to NAT What is the correct setting here ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Matthew Seaman matthew at FreeBSD.org writes: On 06/01/2013 11:19, jb wrote: Next problem: I selected powerd service during install, but after boot, there was error msg: starting powerd powerd lookup freq: No such file or directory /etc/rc: WARNING failed to start powerd Again -- standard for VirtualBox hosts: powerd doesn't work -- the guest OS can't control the frequency of the host CPU, which is what you'ld expect thinking about it. Just disable powerd in /etc/rc.conf to get rid of the error message. Cheers, Matthew A general question: to what extent is FB Install aware of installation env (VB here) ? If so, would it make sense to sanitize it to avoid offering install options that are irrelevant/inappropriate ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Michael Powell nightrecon at hotmail.com writes: ... What I have not done is tried all the various partitioning schemes available under Manual config. Possibly one, such as Dos MBR or BSD disklabel which I have not tried, may be broken boot-loading wise. I only went straight down the GPT road. -Mike I have done Manual MBR paritioning here and it worked. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Next problem: the FB 9.1 dmesg differs on: - VB VM pnp bios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum ... orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff pnpid ORM on isa0 - on real hardware none of the above jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Matthew Seaman matthew at FreeBSD.org writes: On 06/01/2013 11:19, jb wrote: Next problem: I selected powerd service during install, but after boot, there was error msg: starting powerd powerd lookup freq: No such file or directory /etc/rc: WARNING failed to start powerd Again -- standard for VirtualBox hosts: powerd doesn't work -- the guest OS can't control the frequency of the host CPU, which is what you'ld expect thinking about it. Just disable powerd in /etc/rc.conf to get rid of the error message. Cheers, Matthew If so, then bsdinstall should stop offering powerd as a service during installation (regardless of whethter in real or virtual env). It can discover this condition with checking for lack of sysctl -a | grep dev.cpu.0.freq sysctl -a | grep dev.cpu.0.freq_levels in /usr/libexec/bsdinstall/services, exactly as it does with if (sysctlnametomib(dev.cpu.0.freq, freq_mib, len)) err(1, lookup freq); ... if (sysctlnametomib(dev.cpu.0.freq_levels, levels_mib, len)) err(1, lookup freq_levels); in /usr/sbin/powerd (via /etc/rc.d/powerd) - see powerd.c. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Matthew Seaman matthew at FreeBSD.org writes: On 06/01/2013 11:19, jb wrote: Next problem: when I am logged out from FB, and I do (I tested it repeatedly) Machine-Close-Power off the machine to cloce VM with FB, then on subsequent VM Start and FB reboot I get error msgs: ... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [rw]... WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ... Starting file system checks: ** SU+J Recovering /dev/ada0s1a ... but when I do Machine-Close-Send the shutdown signal there are no errors, just normal msgs: ... Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ada0s1a [rw]... ... Starting file system checks: /dev/ada0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS ... Ummm... what did you expect to happen? 'Machine-Close-Power off' is essentially the same as ripping the power cord out of a physical machine. It's designed to stop the guest system no matter what: even if the guest is trapped in so tight a loop it can't respond to anything else. 'Machine-Close-Send shutdown' is more like pressing the power button on the front of most modern machines, in that what it does is signal the guest OS to shut itself off and power down the system after that. You can achieve the same effect from within the guest OS by typing: shutdown -p now 'Machine-Close-Send shutdown' is what you want to use routinely. Cheers, Matthew Right, but the wordings are unfortunate and counterintuitive/misleading: 'Machine-Close-Send shutdown' means to 'shutdown -p now' (equivalent to 'poweroff') of Guest, followed by unforced Close of VM. 'Machine-Close-Power off' means Kill VM' without regard of the Guest - but the Power off in its name may make user believe that there is Poweroff (orderly shutdown, poweroff) involved as part of the process. It would be better, in my opinion, if these options were called Machine-Close-Shutdown-Guest Machine-Close-Kill-Guest No margin for error/misunderstanding. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Matthew Seaman m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk writes: ... There is no problem with interface em0, NAT, manual/DHCP config, and ping or traceroute. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: ... However, your transition of this knowledge to the terminology to be used in combination with _virtual_ machines makes sense. Maybe that wording is really not optimal. Kill guest matches today's understanding, but could possibly be formed better in regards of future use (like the power off vs. shutdown difference that was totally clear in the 1990's, but maybe isn't as clear anymore today). Well, I remember some time ago there were some changes done to shutdown, halt, poweroff commands and their interpretation/implementation. Since then Confusion Reigns Supreme ! See Google search: difference shutdown poweroff Enjoy it -:) jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT - turn off your cam and mike, now ...
http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-dvr-will-know-what-your-doing-and-saying-2012-12 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT - turn off your cam and mike, now ...
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:21:50 + (UTC), jb wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-dvr-will-know-what-your-doing-and-saying-2012-12 http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/microsoft-patents-spying-on-yo.html http://hdguru.com/is-your-new-hdtv-watching-you/7643/ And this is just a tip of an iceberg. Is a Big Reset unavoidable ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Reduce the consumption of video memory
Dima Naumov clangbsd at gmail.com writes: Can i reduce using of video memory in xorg.conf? My video card is almost dead, i think is something with Video Memory, because in monitor showed and disappear little noisy pixel, and i wish check out is problem with video memory? - check in BIOS - man xorg.conf VideoRam jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
Hi, host=CentOS guest=FreeBSD in VirtualBox FB 9.1 installation seemed to be normal (there was a one page text at the end that quickly disappeared, but could not catch it ...), virtual disk was set up as ada0 ada0s1 BSD ada0s1a / ada0s1b swap but after reboot: No /boot/loader FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: No /boot/kernel/kernel FreeBSD/i386 boot Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel boot: _ jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FB 9.1 - emulators/linux_base-f10 build error
Hi, # portmaster /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper ... === www/nspluginwrapper accessibility/linux-f10-atk emulators/linux_base-f10 (2/2) === Port directory: /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10 === This port is marked IGNORE === linuxulator is not (kld)loaded === If you are sure you can build it, remove the IGNORE line in the Makefile and try again. === Update for emulators/linux_base-f10 failed === Aborting update === Update for accessibility/linux-f10-atk failed === Aborting update # Why marked IGNORE ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 - emulators/linux_base-f10 build error
David Demelier demelier.david at gmail.com writes: ... Do you have linux emulation enabled? Such as linux_enable=YES in your /etc/rc.conf Cheers, David Yes, indeed, that was the cause. Thanks. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind 192.168.1.1 to all interfaces
Eugen Konkov kes-kes at yandex.ru writes: ... So in my vlan I have two DHCP servers. One is mine and second is on that router. Some users get wrong IPs from that router. ... Or s there any other method to prevent such ilegal DHCP servers on LAN? http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_DHCPSecurityIssues.htm jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reboot after removing ipv6 ?
Frank Bonnet f.bonnet at esiee.fr writes: Hello Do I have to reboot a server after unvalidating IPv6 in /etc/rc.conf ? I seems to use /etc/rc.d/netif restart is not suffisant Use 'netstat' to see what service(s) listen for ipv6 traffic and restart them. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Startup Notification?
Walter Hurry walterhurry at gmail.com writes: I'm running FreeBSD 9.1RC3 with LXDE and OpenBox. The startup-notification port is installed (it's required by a number of other ports anyway), but I don't actually see any form of visual notification when opening GUI applications. For many of these (e.g. lxterminal, pcmanfm) this doesn't matter, since they appear virtually instantaneously, but for others (like firefox) the lack is something of a nuisance. Am I missing an optional port, or is there a configuration file somewhere which I need to edit? This narrative should give you some clue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/11462 Find a file like e.g. mozilla-firefox.desktop that will look similar to this: ... Exec=firefox %u Icon=firefox Terminal=false Type=Application StartupWMClass=Firefox-bin MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application /vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;text/mml; StartupNotify=true X-Desktop-File-Install-Version=0.15 Categories=Network;WebBrowser; jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dhclient and random disconnects
David Demelier demelier.david at gmail.com writes: ... Logs are your friends. If the lease actually expires and you have to get a new IP (a new lease), then you could have a temporary disconnect. But if dhcp server(s) are working correctly the lease should be renewed or rebound without problems. Search for dhc and check how much time (see time stamps) it takes to renew, or rebind your IP address, or if it has any trouble with both of them and it is forced to obtain a new lease: $ less -i /var/log/messages Look for any other errors in there too - e.g. WPA2 encryption protocol related, like failing of security key exchange. If you find any, post a sufficient copy to the list here. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: dhclient and random disconnects
David Demelier demelier.david at gmail.com writes: ... I have setup lagg0 for a failover with ethernet, (note the problem appears if I use wlan0 only too) # Fail over between wired/wireless. cloned_interfaces=lagg0 ifconfig_msk0=up ifconfig_ath0=ether 18:a9:05:87:38:0a ifconfig_wlan0=WPA ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto failover laggport msk0 laggport wlan0 DHCP ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=YES According to the example in: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-aggregation.html this line is missing in your setup: wlans_ath0=wlan0 which is also mentioned in: /etc/defaults/rc.conf ... #wlans_ath0=wlan0 # wlan(4) interfaces for ath0 device ... I can not test it as I do not have access to a FB machine right now. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash pipe redirection gets stuck
long at rule.lv writes: Dear all, I stumbled upon a problem where multiple pipe redirection occasionally get stuck when trying to get sha256 sum of a stream. You can try to reproduce the problem if you have /usr/ports/shells/bash installed (output redirection used in this command is possible only in bash). Create temporary test file with command: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/file1 bs=1k count=10 And the command I'm using is: /usr/local/bin/bash -c 'cat /tmp/file1 | tee (/sbin/sha256 /tmp/file1.sha256) /tmp/file1.copy' ; echo $status I could reproduce it on FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 on 3rd try, but after upgrade of bash-4.1.11 to bash-4.2.37 it works (tested 30 times). jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash pipe redirection gets stuck
long at rule.lv writes: Dear all, I stumbled upon a problem where multiple pipe redirection occasionally get stuck when trying to get sha256 sum of a stream. You can try to reproduce the problem if you have /usr/ports/shells/bash installed (output redirection used in this command is possible only in bash). Create temporary test file with command: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/file1 bs=1k count=10 And the command I'm using is: /usr/local/bin/bash -c 'cat /tmp/file1 | tee (/sbin/sha256 /tmp/file1.sha256) /tmp/file1.copy' ; echo $status ... Do you get stuck with this ? Does it make any difference ? /usr/local/bin/bash -c 'cat /tmp/file1 | tee /tmp/file1.copy | /sbin/sha256 \ /tmp/file1.sha256' ; echo $status jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash pipe redirection gets stuck
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Do you get stuck with this ? Does it make any difference ? I missed a redirector - sorry about that; the entry should be: /usr/local/bin/bash -c 'cat /tmp/file1 | tee /tmp/file1.copy | /sbin/sha256 \ /tmp/file1.sha256' ; echo $status jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT - A Generation Lost in the Bazaar
http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257 It's about FreeBSD too ... jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ports and 'make fetchindex'
Hi, # portsnap fetch update ... Building new INDEX files... done. # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26626683 Nov 29 15:17 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 # cd /usr/ports/ [root@localhost /usr/ports]# make fetchindex /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1615 kB 160 kBps 00m00s # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 29 15:20 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 Notice that 'make fetchindex' fetches INDEX-9.bz2 and deletes it at finish. # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-57121-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1615 kB 164 kBps ... # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 29 15:25 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 Notice that 'portmaster ...' did NOT delete INDEX-9.bz2 at finish. [root@localhost /usr/ports]# make fetchindex [root@localhost /usr/ports]# # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 29 15:29 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 # Notice that 'make fetchindex' did NOT fetch a fresh copy of INDEX-9.bz2. Is this a potential problem ? I understand that Make fetchindex will just fetch the index from a repository server. Could it be that 'make fetchindex' could miss the latest INDEX-9.bz2 on server in case of a long time passed since the old INDEX-9.bz2 was downloaded ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When Is The Ports Tree Going To Be Updated?
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I tested and compared results on FreeBSD 9.0 and FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 (done here earlier) and this is a summary. Please review it, in particular the conclusions, as they are intended to be the base for filing a PR#. Test on FreeBSD 9.0 --- $ uname -a FreeBSD localhost.localdomain 9.0-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Jun 12 01:47:53 UTC 2012 r...@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # ls /var/db/pkg/portmaster-3.11/ # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26912299 Nov 28 08:53 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26796230 Nov 28 08:53 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26777464 Nov 28 08:53 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 194 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 194 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 194 have new versions available # # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap extract ... Building new INDEX files... done. # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26912299 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26796230 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26777464 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 # portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 194 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-32794-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1615 kB 173 kBps ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 193 have new versions available # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26912299 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26796230 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 28 09:12 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' ... === New version available: xorg-7.5.2 === 452 total installed ports === 193 have new versions available # The result shows that after this step: # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-32794-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1615 kB 173 kBps the uncompressed INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 28 09:12 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 is different from the prior original INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26777464 Nov 28 09:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 The cause of it could be: - either portmaster gets identical size-wise, but not necessarily content-wise INDEX-9.bz2 - or portmaster uncompresses INDEX-9.bz2 incorectly and loses some content Test on FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 --- $ uname -a ... 9.1-RC3 ... $ cat /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster/distinfo ... portmaster-portmaster-3.14-31009f6.tar.gz ... # portsnap fetch extract # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26879597 Nov 26 15:37 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26763600 Nov 26 15:38 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26744834 Nov 26 15:38 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. # portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: java-zoneinfo-2012.j === New version available: liberation-fonts-ttf-2.00.1,1 === New version available: libxul-10.0.11 === New version available: firefox-17.0,1 === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === New version available: vigra-1.9.0 === 545 total installed ports === 6 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: java-zoneinfo-2012.j === New version available: liberation-fonts-ttf-2.00.1,1 === New version available: libxul-10.0.11 === New version available: firefox-17.0,1
Re: When Is The Ports Tree Going To Be Updated?
Tim Daneliuk tundra at tundraware.com writes: ... I use portsnap fetch update and it works... Ah, maybe that was the problem. That works for me as well. Well, not quite ... # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Ports tree hasn't changed since last snapshot. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26879548 Nov 26 11:50 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26763551 Nov 26 11:50 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 26 11:53 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install'=== New version available: java-zoneinfo-2012.j === New version available: liberation-fonts-ttf-2.00.1,1 === New version available: libxul-10.0.11 === New version available: firefox-17.0,1 === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === New version available: vigra-1.9.0 === 545 total installed ports === 6 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === 545 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === 545 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When Is The Ports Tree Going To Be Updated?
Stas Verberkt legolas at legolasweb.nl writes: jb schreef op : Tim Daneliuk tundra at tundraware.com writes: ... I use portsnap fetch update and it works... Ah, maybe that was the problem. That works for me as well. Well, not quite ... I think, after the security incident, you had to obtain a fresh snapshot of the ports tree, i.e. you had to do portsnap fetch extract before usual service continued. May this be your problem? # portsnap fetch extract # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26879597 Nov 26 15:37 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26763600 Nov 26 15:38 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26744834 Nov 26 15:38 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Ports tree is already up to date. # This fixed it. But, let's see what happens with this test: # rm -rf /usr/ports/ # portsnap extract # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26879563 Nov 26 16:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26763566 Nov 26 16:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26744800 Nov 26 16:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 # portmaster -L | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: java-zoneinfo-2012.j === New version available: liberation-fonts-ttf-2.00.1,1 === New version available: libxul-10.0.11 === New version available: firefox-17.0,1 === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === New version available: vigra-1.9.0 === 545 total installed ports === 6 have new versions available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-78227-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1615 kB 176 kBps 00m00s === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === 545 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: libreoffice-3.5.7 === 545 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # ls -al /usr/ports/IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26879563 Nov 26 16:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26763566 Nov 26 16:07 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26665016 Nov 26 16:12 /usr/ports/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1654048 Nov 11 11:45 /usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 # portsnap update Ports tree is already up to date. # Well, what do you say about this ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When Is The Ports Tree Going To Be Updated?
Tim Daneliuk tundra at tundraware.com writes: ... One wonders if using svn to keep the ports tree up-to-date might not be simpler, and perhaps, more reliable ... As managed by portsnap: $ du -hs /usr/ports/ 850M/usr/ports/ As managed by svn (it took much longer to checkout/download it by comparison): $ du -hs /usr/local/ports/ 1.4G/usr/local/ports/ $ du -hs /usr/local/ports/.svn/ 702M/usr/local/ports/.svn/ One thing about svn is that it is a developer's tool, with its own commands set (that should never be mixed with UNIX commands w/r to dir/file manipulation), and that should not be expected to be learned by non-devs. For that reasons alone the portsnap-managed ports repo is more generic, flexible to be handled by user and add-on apps/utilities, looks like more efficient without that svn overhead resulting from its requirements and characteristics as a source control system. But, svn offers to a user a unique view into ports repo, e.g. history, logs, info, attributes, etc. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: has Black Friday ever been tried at FreeBSD ?
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Re: portsnap
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: ... Yes, it is a keyword, a keyword parameter that tells CLI command what to do (yes, a keyword that may be taken verbatim or translated into an internal command parameter(s), a keyword that represents an action). But, it is not a command, or parameter of type command. I think Robert is right (which implies that you are wrong), at least in acknowledging the _possibility_ to interpret _certain_ command line arguments as commands to the program (where a program can do various actions), in opposite to a modifier (which changes the way the one action a program performs in a certain way). ... Putting aside the linguistics about executable command, entry, function, parameter, and argument - let's reduce the case to one common ground, so we can compare them. The are two entities, each having in their description as receiving a command as a parameter, namely: - portsnap ... command ... e.g. portsnap fetch - system(command); e.g. system(ls -al); The former is passed an action keyword as an argument (I like the word keyword; we could use command keyword as perhaps even a better fit and the closest to describe the nature of it). The latter is passed a command as an argument. So, the manual for portsnap(8) is imprecise, actually unfortunate because misleading. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes:
From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com
Subject: Re: portsnap
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:43:30 + (UTC)
So, the manual for portsnap(8) is imprecise, actually unfortunate because
misleading.
The manual/ manpage for portsnap(8) and its use of 'command' is precise
*and* entirely consistant with roughly 40(!!) years of Unix documentation
history. (see, for instance, the 'mt' manpage, which existed before
6th Edition Unix.)
And, of course, if one follows/accepts jb's reasoning, that which follows
the '-c' parameter on a shell invocation is not a command.
nor is that which follows '-exec' on a 'find' invocation.
nor is that which follows the 'exec' command.
`
*snicker*
How come ?
According to sh(1):
sh ... -c string ...
The -c option causes the commands to be read from the string operand.
Example:
- non-executable string argument
$ sh -c test1
test1: not found
- executable string argument, thus a command
$ sh -c echo test1
test1
According to find(1):
find ... expression ...
The expression is composed of primaries and operands:
-exec utility [argument ...] ;
True if the program named utility returns a zero value as its
exit status. Optional arguments may be passed to the utility.
-exec utility [argument ...] {} +
Well, that utility represents a program, thus a command.
Example:
- non-executable utility
$ find . -type f -exec fakeutility {} \;
find: fakeutility: No such file or directory
...
OMG ! CAN YOU SEE THIS ?!
- executable utility
$ find . -type f -exec echo {} \;
./.cshrc
...
According to bash(1):
$ type exec
exec is a shell builtin
$ help exec
exec: exec ... command [arguments ...] ...
Replace the shell with the given command.
Example:
- non-executable string (non-command)
$ exec fakecommand
bash: exec: fakecommand: not found
- executable string (command)
$ exec touch test-exec.file
$ ls -al test*
-rw-r--r-- 1 jb jb 0 Nov 21 22:37 test-exec.file
The examples you gave are about executable commands by themselves, and that's
what their documentations (man pages) truthfully state.
No Mickey Mouse here.
This is not the same what portsnap(8) does:
portsnap ... command ...
This command word is non-executable by itself; it has a meaning only as
a special word passed to portsnap command to tell it what to do internally,
just a kind of special indicator to be used for conditional processing:
if arg=fetch then do-fetch-routine
else if arg=update then do-update-routine
else
Well, being a liar is an honorable trait :-)
jb
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Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt *NOBODY* said Unix command. _You_ falsely imputed that meaning to the respondants use of the word in a context with a different applicable meaning. 'command' has many meanings -- *especially* in the Unix environment. [drivelectomy] You persist in repeating your error. ... Well, yes - CLI applies to many environments (not only OSs), with the same basic format. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the user terminated by the Enter key, then execute the specified command and provide textual display of results or error messages. Advanced CLIs will validate, interpret and parameter-expand the command line before executing the specified command, and optionally capture or redirect its output. ... Command prompt ... Arguments ... Command-line option ... Examples: - OSs (e.g. UNIX) $ portsnap fetch update - database and/or languages environments (e.g. SQL) sql select fields from table - applications (e.g. reservation system) pax dl123/12augdis which means: display a list of passengers for flight DL123, departing on 12 Aug, out of DIS (Disney Land) So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Steve O'Hara-Smith ateve at sohara.org writes: ... Educate yourselves, please. It's scary when one confuses command arguments with a command because some nitwit described/called it that way. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface ... The general pattern of an OS command line interface is: prompt command param1 param2 param3 ... paramN No argument -- for _that_ meaning of the word. That, however, is not the only valid usage or interpretation of it. The truth that you refuse to acknowledge is that in *many* cases, one or more of the 'params' on the command line are commands TO THE APPlICATION BEING INVOKED. A simple CLI will display a prompt, accept a command line typed by the [drivelectomy] So, we are discussing here things that are obvious. People who write technical or user manuals should have a clue of what they are writing and talking about (e.g. what is a command, also called an entry). Otherwise they screw up the users and it's a software error sysadmins. the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. A command specifies, to the application to which it is directed, _what_ (or _which_, if you prefer) operation/activity/function is to be performed. In grammar terms it is a =verb=. A 'parameter'/'option'/'switch'/etc. instructs the application to which it is directed to , _how_ to perform the particular action. It _modifies_ the action to be performed. In grammar terms it is an =adverb=. This distinction has been known to, understood, and employed by those who write/read/use technical instructions for well over THREE HUNDRED years. (early multi-function machinery, such as a crane, could only perform one action at a time -- e.g. traverse, adjust boom, lift; you moved one set of controls to command the machine _which_ action to perform, and then another set of controls to ccntrol how it is done. ... also responding to kpneal at pobox.com ... With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. Look at PORTSNAP(8)'s synopsis again. The command is 'portsnap', anything else are parameters to it. If you call a parameter a command here, you imply that it has attributes of a command, which clearly does not, as referenced by me above. So, basically, it is an indicator, verbosely (but not required to be so if it were also verbosely defined in man page) describing an action parameter, e.g. extract, telling the actual 'portsnap' command what to do (yes - what to do, and not how to do it). jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: ... the authors of the portsnap docs (and the _numerous_ other applications that describe the use of certain keywords used as input to that appication ARE correct -- despite your boneheaded denial of that fact. Yes, it is a keyword, a keyword parameter that tells CLI command what to do (yes, a keyword that may be taken verbatim or translated into an internal command parameter(s), a keyword that represents an action). But, it is not a command, or parameter of type command. With regard to definition of a command as we practice and argue about here: In general (see bash(1), SHELL GRAMMAR, Simple Commands), a command is an executable preceded by optional vars and followed by optional parameters. You lie. A command does not have to have the attributes of a command-line invocation. Well, a second nature ... But, it is an honor :-) To drive the point: let's assume that it is a valid syntax to pass a parameter like this: ls -al or much better, command=command, like this: command=ls -al then it would be clear that a command (parameter) is passed to CLI command. This kind of command parameter passing fulfilles the definition of a command as referenced. If you are familiar with C function system(), you will have easier time to understand: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdlib/system/ The prototype is: int system ( const char * command ); The command ls -al (yes, it is a command as referenced) is a parameter to system() function: system(ls -al); It just says, execute that command ls -al in the existing execution environment. The reason I go so by the book about it is that words have meaning and definitions :-) jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portsnap
Hi, have i caught portsnap with its pants down ? # rm -rf /usr/ports # portsnap fetch update Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from ec2-eu-west-1.portsnap.freebsd.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sun Nov 11 15:54:03 CET 2012 to Mon Nov 19 15:34:57 CET 2012. Fetching 4 metadata patches... done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 0 metadata files... done. Fetching 24085 patches.102030405060708090... ... 0240602407024080.. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 18 new ports or files... done. /usr/ports was not created by portsnap. You must run 'portsnap extract' before running 'portsnap update'. # # ls /usr/ports ls: /usr/ports: No such file or directory # # ls -al /var/db/portsnap/ total 6144 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 19 16:04 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Nov 4 11:07 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2063752 Nov 19 15:51 INDEX drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4113920 Nov 19 16:04 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 451 Oct 16 22:50 pub.ssl -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 284 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 284 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist_full -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 48 Nov 19 15:51 serverlist_tried -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 527 Nov 19 15:51 tINDEX -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 85 Nov 19 15:51 tag So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: ... ... So, why did it do so much work (ca. 5 min, 24085 patches), even claiming to have applied patches, before telling me the env was not properly set up ? jb You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. fetch downloads and applies patches to the compressed snapshot. update uses the compressed snapshot to update a pre-existing ports tree created by an extract ... OK. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. But this looks like a flaky entry validation - it should be rejected up front as invalid entry, even if it applied to the second part - update. Because the effect of processing the entire entry fetch plus update is lost anyway. Not isn't, you've brought the snapshot up to date. Well, yes. But as I already explained, there was ONE command. If I wanted to be satisfied with two command outcomes, even if logically linked by sequential execution, then I would do: # portsnap fetch; portsnap update There is a subtle, but important difference. In general, if I wanted to check for command completion code, which is quite common in UNIX CLI or scripting env, it would make a lot of difference if a command failed half way in both cases: 'portsnap fetch update; check-completion-code' and 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portsnap
Robert Bonomi bonomi at mail.r-bonomi.com writes: From owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org Mon Nov 19 14:15:23 2012 To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org From: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com Subject: Re: portsnap Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:13:45 + (UTC) RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:10:48 + (UTC) jb wrote: You gave portsnap two commands - one succeeded and the other failed. Nope. I gave ONE command: 'portsnap fetch update'. FALSE TO FACT. No way. UNIX command (on a command line, also called CLI), is anything between prompt (e.g. $) and ENTER, that is in general: $ command option option and this is how shell interprets it. There are simple commands as above, and command constructs as pipeline and lists, e.g. $ command options | command options ; command1; command2 but that does not change the meaning of how they are interpreted as commands. You got confused by portsnap(8) vocabulary, which is misleading: SYNOPSIS portsnap [-I] [-d workdir] [-f conffile] [-k KEY] [-l descfile] [-p portsdir] [-s server] command ... [path] ... COMMANDS The command can be any one of the following: fetchFetch a compressed snapshot of the ports tree, or update the ... The word command in SYNOPSIS is very unfortunate, outright wrong because misleading - it represents an option or a parameter to a command portsnap. This is how any command line parser/editor processes the entire entry. No magic here. This should explain your confusion in the rest of your post. ... In general, if I wanted to check for command completion code, which is quite common in UNIX CLI or scripting env, it would make a lot of difference if a command failed half way in both cases: 'portsnap fetch update; check-completion-code' and 'portsnap fetch; check-completion-code; portsnap update; check-completion-code' 'portsnap fetch update' is the EXACT equivalent of: 'portsnap fetch portsnap update; `check-completion-code'` No, it is not. Your CLI command line above is an example of a list (see bash(1)): ... Lists A list is a sequence of one or more pipelines separated by one of the operators ;, , , or ||, and optionally terminated by one of ;, , or newline. ... In other words, it is a CLI command that is a composition of INDEPENDENT commands, here logically linked with '. It is not the same as your list - the difference is, once again, that when I enter: $ portsnap fetch update this represents a CLI command, just one command with two options or params, as understood in UNIX and as explained at the very beginning of this post, regardless of how it is going to be executed internally (with subtasks fetch and update playing only internal and logical role in the context of that command's execution). It follows, that the completion code is of that one CLI command, and not a logical result of multiple commands in a list. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Security advisory FreeBSD - intrusion incident
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Re: odd phantom directory
Brian Gold bgold at simons-rock.edu writes: Hi all, I ran into a rather odd issue this morning with my FreeBSD 9.0-Release system running ZFS v28. This system serves as an RSYNC host which all of our other systems back up to each night. Last night, I started getting the following error: file has vanished: /backup/ldap1/etc/pki Now, usually when I get a file has vanished error during an RSYNC run, it indicates that the source file/directory on the system that is sending the rsync backup has been deleted or moved before rsync got a chance to actually send it. That doesn't appear to be the case here. /backup/ldap1/etc/pki is the destination directory on my Freebsd/ZFS server. I take a look in /backup/ldap1/etc on my Freebsd server and the pki subdirectory is no longer listed. Ok, so I run mkdir /backup/ldap1/etc/pki and get the following error: mkdir: /backup/ldap1/etc/pki: File exists. Odd Just to double check, I run ls -la /backup/ldap1/etc/pki and get the following: ls: /backup/ldap1/etc/pki: No such file or directory ... There have been cases like that reported in the past. One was dated 2006: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2006-April/018069.html I assume the backup host was on UFS. This comment seems to be interesting: Such behavior usually caused by lost vnode reference and/or bugs in the vnode traversal code. ... Next dated 2011: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/carsten-c-otto-de-ftpsync-freebsd-ftp-ftp-1013-rsync-ERROR-on-2011-03-04-09-23-00-td4073512.html I assume the backup host was on UFS2. There was a fix commited: ...John Baldwin commited very promising MFC yesterday, see http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/219744 . Next dated 2011: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2011-October/027902.html The backup host was on ZFS. Yours is similar to the last one. Perhaps looking for the solution to this problem should start at top VFS layer ? The description in /usr/src/sys/sys/vnode.h is a good reference. I would suggest you file a PR# to get VFS and fs devs have a look at it. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
OT: problems with gpl-licensed software
Thinking about extending or dual-licensing a gpl-licensed software ? https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/7/338 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: curious -- what's /tmp/fam-root ?
Gary Aitken freebsd at dreamchaser.org writes: Just curious; what's the purpose of /tmp/fam-root, and what is written there? Is it simply where the os writes stuff which is sensitive, and putting it in a rwx-- directory avoids potential security issues regarding file access? or is there more to it than that? # procstat -af |grep -i fam 23038 polkitd12 s - rw--- 1 0 UDS /tmp/fam-root/fam- 23040 gam_server 4 s - rw--- 1 0 UDS /tmp/fam-root/fam- 23040 gam_server 7 s - rw--- 1 0 UDS /tmp/fam-root/fam- 26654 thunar 7 s - rw--- 1 0 UDS /tmp/fam-jb/fam- ... # file /tmp/fam-root/fam- /tmp/fam-root/fam-: socket jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster or ports (packaging) problem ?
Hi, I hit a problem today during a system update. There were two libxul ports: /usr/ports/www/libxul /usr/ports/www/libxul19 of which the last one was installed: /var/db/pkg/libxul-1.9.2.28_1/ There was a port to update which died on error: # portmaster icedtea-web ... === The dependency for www/libxul seems to be handled by libxul-1.9.2.28_1 ... === Found libxul-1.9.2.28_1, but you need to upgrade to libxul=10. *** [build-depends] Error code 1 ... # So, I had to manually deinstall www/libxul19 and install www/libxul and try again. # portmaster icedtea-web ... === The following actions will be taken if you choose to proceed: Upgrade icedtea-web-1.3_1 to icedtea-web-1.3.1 Install www/libxul ... # Is the portmaster to blame for not being smart enough and not taking steps of deinstalling www/libxul19 and installing www/libxul in one step ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster or ports (packaging) problem ?
uki ukaszg at gmail.com writes: But theese are different packages (different names). since ports dont have any equivalent of debian provides flag it is impossible to figure it out in a safe way. I have never built a port/package, so I could be wrong here. This paragraph seems to contain means to specify a dependency and built it if needed: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/makefile-depend.html for example 5.8.3 BUILD_DEPENDS aside from its primary meaning as a requirement for building *this* port, it could be used indirectly to build and install a dependent port :-) and this offer means to specify a minimal version of a dependency: 5.8.8 Minimal Version of a Dependency My point is, the logic/infrastrucutre already exists, just adopt it to next level of port/package management. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading Using FreeBSD Update
Jinsong Zhao jszhao at yeah.net writes: ... My questions is: how to rebuild all third-party applications? I have kept the ports tree up to date using # portsnap fetch update and # portmaster -Ga every day. ... I would advise you to drop -G option and use these entries: # portsnap fetch update # portmaster -f portmaster # portmaster -a -f Ref: PORTMASTER(8) Examples. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: My freebsd partition changed by Windows chkdsk
Manish Jain bourne.identity at hotmail.com writes: Hello Leslie, The short answer is No. And it would need more than a miracle to salvage the situation if the partition information is lost. ... I am wondering if this could help: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting 2nd(!) FreeBSD installation sitting on same disk
Andre Albsmeier Andre.Albsmeier at siemens.com writes: ... However, when pressing F3, the system of slice 2(!) is loaded. This is due to the fact that boot1 always loads the first active FreeBSD slice ;-(. ... Is there no chance to actually honour the fact that F3 was pressed and boot from slice 3 without updating the MBR before? I do not know the story of active slice in FreeBSD, but I know that neither Windows nor Linux require active partitions (in their jargon) to boot from any more. Perhaps it is time to review this requirement in FreeBSD and drop it if possible. Opinions are welcome. If there are no counterarguments, we will create a PR# to start the process. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Booting 2nd(!) FreeBSD installation sitting on same disk
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I do not know the story of active slice in FreeBSD, but I know that neither Windows nor Linux require active partitions (in their jargon) to boot from any more. Perhaps it is time to review this requirement in FreeBSD and drop it if possible. Opinions are welcome. If there are no counterarguments, we will create a PR# to start the process. I forgot to mention that in such case a new boot option would be introduced to set a default boot item in a boot manager's menu. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which NNTP newsreader for huge newsgroups?
C. P. Ghost cpghost at cordula.ws writes: Hello, I'm looking for an NNTP newsreader that can gracefully handle newsgroups with a *huge* number of posts, if possible with a moderate memory and CPU footprint. ... $ cat /usr/ports/news/pan/pkg-descr Pan is a newsreader, loosely based on Agent and Gravity, which attempts to be pleasant to use for new and advanced users alike. It has all the typical features found in newsreaders, and also supports offline reading, multiple connections, and a number of features for power users and alt.binaries fans. WWW: http://pan.rebelbase.com/ jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
/etc/passwd and char
Hi, Question: What is the purpose of the char in GECOS fields, e.g. user's name field, in /etc/passwd file ? $ grep /etc/passwd root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh operator:*:2:5:System :/:/usr/sbin/nologin svn:*:1002:1002:User :/home/svn:/usr/sbin/nologin The field containing char represents -c comment option in pw(8), which sets up GECOS fields (user's full name, etc). The pw(8) states further: ... The pw utility allows 8-bit characters in the passwd GECOS field ... ... Using 8-bit characters may also affect other programs that transmit the contents of the GECOS field over the Internet, such as fingerd(8), and a small number of TCP/IP clients, such as IRC, where full names specified in the passwd file may be used by default. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampersand ... Encoding and display ... Programming languages ... The ampersand character is used as a special character in at least some versions of the database software originally created in Denmark under the name Navision (the software has since been acquired by Microsoft). Using this character in either Text or Code fields could create difficulties for performing certain tasks in Navision, such as filtering records (either by the user or by programming). It is also used as described below to indicate shortcuts in menu items and lab els. ... Text markup In SGML, XML, and HTML, ... This creates what is known as the ampersand problem. ... ... Unix shells ... Web standards ... Google search results for character: Special (escape) characters in SGML, HTML and XML documents: amp; #38; ampersand jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ports index out-of-date
Hi, it seems that the problem (last reported and fixed around Oct 17) still persists: # cd /usr/ports # fetch http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/INDEX-9.bz2 INDEX-9.bz2 100% of 1621 kB 161 kBps 00m00s # ls -al IN* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1660069 Oct 20 18:13 INDEX-9.bz2 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why RELENG_9 branch is labeled as PRERELEASE and freebsd.org says FreeBSD is currently at 9.1-RC2 ?
Yuri yuri at rawbw.com writes: On 10/28/2012 07:17, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: RELENG_9 should be called 9-STABLE, if you want 9.1 use RELENG_9_1 Hm, if they wanted to keep RELENG_9 as stable 9.X branch, why then 9.1-PRERELEASE is there? Is PRERELEASE considered more stable than RC? This looks strange to me. Yuri http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1/sys/conf/newvers.sh?view=log Go back to Revision 227495, read log text, click View and scroll down to see TYPE=FreeBSD 34 REVISION=9.0 BRANCH=PRERELEASE Then back off and move the log up by repeating as above. Hopefully you understand his drill :-) jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
kernel config
Hi, what controls how parts of kernel are built, that is, built-in or modular ? For example, I want to: - build a kernel that has eveything built in - build a kernel that has everything possible (what controls the impossible ?) built as modules - build a kernel that has mixed support, e.g. support for cd9660 fs built-in and ext2fs as module jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel config
Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdlist at ovitrap.com writes: ... Just check how a custom kernel is build. You can then build three versions of it. One with nothing, one with the modules you want and one with the non-conflicting modules build-in. Just read the handbook regarding custom kernels. ... I have already read all docs :-) The problem is I still do not get it ... I understand that files sys/conf/NOTES and sys/arch/conf/NOTES contain directive lines like 'device', 'options', 'machine', 'ident', 'maxusers', 'makeoptions' etc that the user may place in the kernel configuration that she will run config(8) with. What is the specific mechanism (directive in GENERIC file, or something else in GENERIC file or elsewhere) that says build support for cd9660 fs as built-in and ext2fs as module, or entire kernel as built-in, or entire kernel as modular (except things that must be built-in, but then what things and where is this specified) ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel config
Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdlist at ovitrap.com writes: ... What decides about that (built-in or module) ? # kldstat -v |grep cd9660 414 cd9660 # kldstat -v |grep ext2fs 151 0xc9911000 11000ext2fs.ko (/boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko) 538 ext2fs jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kernel config
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... What decides about that (built-in or module) ? # kldstat -v |grep cd9660 414 cd9660 # kldstat -v |grep ext2fs 151 0xc9911000 11000ext2fs.ko (/boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko) 538 ext2fs That was already clarified. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 + (UTC), jb wrote: Hi, what is the diff between --index and --index-only ... --index use INDEX-[7-9] exclusively to check if a port is up to date ... --index-only do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. This means --index-only is to be used when using portmaster for binary installs without an installed ports collection. Well, yes, BUT they seem to be redundant (that's why I asked). # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... --index-only do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. ... And -PP|--packages-only option implies index only entry behavior, so there is redundancy here as well. Does anybody know where this --index-only option really matter ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: ... Well, yes, BUT they seem to be redundant (that's why I asked). # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # Did you test this with or _without_ an actually installed ports collection? If you don't have one installed, --index probably won't work. # mv /usr/ports /usr/ports-saved # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-85964-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1619 kB 185 kBps === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-87852-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1619 kB 125 kBps 00m00s Terminated # Well, the second entry outcome (with --index option) looks like a bug to me. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
RW rwmaillists at googlemail.com writes: On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:35:43 + (UTC) jb wrote: Hi, what is the diff between --index and --index-only From a *very* quick look, it appears that --index-only means don't use the the port-directory at all, so that the index file is downloaded into /tmp, and some checks and optimizations are skipped or done less efficiently. ... # ls -al /usr/ports/ ... -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26881412 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26765446 Oct 12 07:47 INDEX-8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 13:28 INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 INDEX-9.bz2 ... # # find /tmp -name *INDEX* # portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # find /tmp -name *INDEX* Nope :-) jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: ... But this? # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-87852-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1619 kB 125 kBps 00m00s Terminated This is with --index and _no_ ports collection in the default location (example quoted from your message)... The above (aborted ?) entry did not create any /tmp die files - this will be obvious below. I repeated the procedure once again, with extra tests. [root@localhost ~]# mv /usr/ports /usr/ports-saved [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-vT3uAQQB6U dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-paXxX0f1fy [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx-- 2 jbwheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 15:35 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name *INDEX* [root@localhost ~]# portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' /tmp/d-93752-index/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1619 kB 185 kBps === New version available: smartmontools-5.43_1 === 618 total installed ports === 1 has a new version available # ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-paXxX0f1fy dbus-vT3uAQQB6U # ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx-- 2 jbwheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 16:00 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name *INDEX* /tmp/INDEX-9 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/*INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 16:00 /tmp/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' Terminated [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d d-49774-index/ dbus-VVS2cduIFg dbus-cgVqiePRiB dbus-pt6vB9UUJ6 dbus-4inUXwgfJ4 dbus-Y2iXdHF5tz dbus-fsMikdzeLa dbus-u5N9XsFQwT dbus-DoADJZr2PE dbus-ZGcPBBe763 dbus-o2yUi7puUT dbus-vT3uAQQB6U dbus-FEJgZRlX7B dbus-ZmBHPDrpWD dbus-oVPu6XWzrw dbus-zrcvtjVO62 dbus-KPYiGOw8UL dbus-c36HAD5e3q dbus-paXxX0f1fy [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/d-49774-index/ total 8 drwx-- 2 jbwheel 512 Oct 7 00:19 . drwxrwxrwt 23 root wheel 2048 Oct 12 16:00 .. [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name *INDEX* /tmp/INDEX-9 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# ls -al /tmp/*INDEX* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26715339 Oct 12 16:00 /tmp/INDEX-9 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658547 Oct 12 12:01 /tmp/INDEX-9.bz2 [root@localhost ~]# rm /tmp/INDEX* [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name *INDEX* [root@localhost ~]# # portmaster -L --index | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' Terminated [root@localhost ~]# [root@localhost ~]# find /tmp -name *INDEX* [root@localhost ~]# jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I have doubts about these options use, so I filed a PR#: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=172651 jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster options
Hi, what is the diff between --index and --index-only jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... A follow up. I e-mailed FB office boyz and received a response, which is safe to share with the list: Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org This is almost not doable for many reason: 1/ the ports itself will be over complicated to only allow compiler some part of libreoffice imho (that is the main reason I didn't make it at first 2/ splitting the build won't give you much 3/ what linux distributions do it splitting the result of the build, not the build itself, and the ports tree does not allow this for the moment. regards, Bapt Well, if you have an opinion make it count now when this stuff is discussed. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster backup package
Hi, what to do with that backup package (-b option) after installation of new port failed ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 + (UTC), jb wrote: Hi, is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like OpenOffice) is designed as an integrated package containing various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. ... It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. I hope that FB's office team finds time to figure it out. It would benefit FB-based OSs to reasonably customize their CDs. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only
Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 12:12:17 + (UTC), jb wrote: Polytropon freebsd at edvax.de writes: On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 05:11:50 + (UTC), jb wrote: Hi, is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? I'm not aware that this is possible, as LibreOffice (like OpenOffice) is designed as an integrated package containing various interconnected parts of office productivity programs. So I assume it's not easy to build _only_ one component. ... It is possible - those Linux lollipops offer such in some distros, prepackaged. Interesting, I didn't think that was possible. Does this come with a _separated_ build for all the components that have such a corresponding package, or is it simply not containing the binaries for the other components? ... For example, in Archlinux these are separate builds/packages: libreoffice-common libreoffice-base libreoffice-calc libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-writer libreoffice-sdk libreoffice-sdk-doc libreoffice-extension-nlpsolver libreoffice-extension-pdfimport libreoffice-extension-presentation-minimizer libreoffice-extension-presenter-screen libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-math libreoffice-postgresql-connector libreoffice-scripting-javascript ... So, there is a lot of functionality thru modularity. For example, in CentOS (clone of RedHat) I can install libreoffice-writer only, which pulls libreoffice-common, and perhaps some extension packages (if so configured). jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Building Ports: Is there a make equivalent for --batch ?
Ronald F. Guilmette rfg at tristatelogic.com writes: ... However there's one instance where I don't know how to get this functionality, i.e. the functionality provided by the --batch option. ... There is no guarantee that either of those will work (try them separately): $ cat /etc/make.conf BATCH=yes # env BATCH=yes make jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compile/install Libreoffice Writer only
Walter Hurry walterhurry at gmail.com writes: ... Yes, but libreoffice-common is essentially the whole thing; libreoffice- base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress and libreoffice-writer are (relatively) small front ends. To all intents and purposes, Polytropon is right. ... Installed Size: libreoffice-common224.7 MB libreoffice-base7.2 MB libreoffice-calc 17.9 MB libreoffice-draw 48.0 KB libreoffice-impress 732.0 KB libreoffice-writer 11.2 MB libreoffice-sdk26.2 MB libreoffice-sdk-doc 104.8 MB and not counting many other extensions. It may be relevant saving perhaps 100 MB when you compose CD functionality, and you want to offer Libreoffice Writer on it. Besides that, there is always a chance that one can look into the splits more deeply and discover that it can be done differently (better ?) and make libreoffice-common leaner, and offer some more stuff as separate packages or extensions packages. Who knows what FB office boyz could do with it if they really wanted. Anyway, the objective would be to be able to install each of components individually, as needed. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
compile/install Libreoffice Writer only
Hi, is there a way to do that right now in ports (config, make options) ? Or would that require separate source packaging per component ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port update hosed entire system
Rod Person rodperson at rodperson.com writes: ... I'm still able to issue sudo, so using sudo rm -r I was able to free up 25GB...but still, /bin/sh, ls, clear all seg fault and su doesn't work and switching consoles doesn't let me log in. I maybe be left with attempting a single user boot, but I'm still not that comfortable at attempting such as I don't want to have a totally useless box. Well, in emergency: - add /rescue/sh to /etc/shells Anything in /rescue/ is statically compiled. - change root shell to /rescue/sh vipw jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port update hosed entire system
jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: Rod Person rodperson at rodperson.com writes: ... I'm still able to issue sudo, so using sudo rm -r I was able to free up 25GB...but still, /bin/sh, ls, clear all seg fault and su doesn't work and switching consoles doesn't let me log in. I maybe be left with attempting a single user boot, but I'm still not that comfortable at attempting such as I don't want to have a totally useless box. Well, in emergency: - add /rescue/sh to /etc/shells Anything in /rescue/ is statically compiled. - change root shell to /rescue/sh vipw jb I forgot to mention that you may want to do this: Save /bin/sh. mv /bin/sh /bin/sh-saved Softlink /bin/sh: ln -s /rescue/sh /bin/sh jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
boot error
Corporation' device = '82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x20ae17aa chip=0x24488086 rev=0xf3 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Mobile PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x20a517aa chip=0x28158086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x20a617aa chip=0x28508086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA ahci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010601 card=0x20a717aa chip=0x28298086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SATA none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x20a917aa chip=0x283e8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus wpi0@pci0:3:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x10118086 chip=0x42278086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' class = network bge0@pci0:4:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x20d517aa chip=0x169314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express' class = network subclass = ethernet cbb0@pci0:21:0:0: class=0x060700 card=0x20c417aa chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd' device = 'RL5c476 II' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus Looks like a timeout problem. Anything else I can provide / help debug ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: boot error
Per olof Ljungmark peo at intersonic.se writes: ... Try a verbose boot. I forgot to mention: $ uname -a FreeBSD localhost.localdomain 9.1-RC1 FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 #0: Tue Aug 14 03:56:40 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I set Verbose ON and put hw.usb.ugen.debug=1 in /boot/loader.conf as originally ugen(4) driver followed the point of lockup. This time the log sequence was a little different - the ata(4) driver followed the point of lockup. If I understand it correctly, these log messages may be recorded in somewhat random sequence, so the dmesg output sequence in not 100% reliable. Anyway, here it is: $ dmesg -a ... usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus5: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus6: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 HERE THE BOOT LOCKUP HAPPENED = ata0: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=00 ata0: stat0=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb ata0: stat1=0x00 err=0x00 lsb=0x00 msb=0x00 ata0: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=00 devices=0x1 ugen0.1: Intel at usbus0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus0 ugen1.1: Intel at usbus1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus1 ugen2.1: Intel at usbus2 uhub2: Intel EHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus2 ugen3.1: Intel at usbus3 uhub3: Intel UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus3 ugen4.1: Intel at usbus4 uhub4: Intel UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus4 ugen5.1: Intel at usbus5 uhub5: Intel UHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus5 ugen6.1: Intel at usbus6 uhub6: Intel EHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus6 ahcich0: AHCI reset... ... More ideas what to look for or catch ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new to subversion
Robert Huff roberthuff at rcn.com writes: One quick question: I've converted from csup to subversion for ports and docs. Ports works fine, but for docs, I get messages like: Skipped 'mn_MN.UTF-8' -- Node remains in conflict Deleting the tree and pulling a fresh chackout has not helped. Any suggestions? Change to your top-most working copy dir (the one you obtained with checkout): $ cd working-copy-dir $ svn status If you have done no local edits yet or do not care of loosing them (save it otherwise), then do the following: $ svn update --accept theirs-full $ svn status Did it help ? jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude device from bus probe?
Göran Löwkrantz goran.lowkrantz at ismobile.com writes: ... Is it possible to disable the probe of the NIC using hists to the PCI bus driver? I have addded hint.em.0.disable=1 but it does not help. ... DEVICE.HINTS(5) The format is: hint.driver.unit.keyword=value The keyword may be: ... disabled can be set to 1 to disable the device. ^ Note the wording ^ here. jb ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
