Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Michel Talon wrote on Wed 22.Aug'12 at 12:29:56 +0200 ] > > > > > David Jackson said: > > > > In reference to the claims that systemd developers "do not care about > > > portabil

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:20 PM, David Jackson wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:09 AM, jb wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on >> Linux developments: >> http://distrowatch.com/weekl

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:09 AM, jb wrote: > Hi, > > here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on > Linux developments: > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 > Reader Comments > "1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from > Franc

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:05:37 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > > Many of your issues are non-issues, as your suggestions were > > > implemented in some form long ago. For example, updated applications > > > are compi

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM, David Jackson > wrote: > > You have just now declared complete indifference to and alienated about > 99% > > of the potential user base and their needs, those who could care less

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Benjamin Tovar wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 12:57:46PM -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > > > So it seems like a happy compromise here. You will get what you need > > and us newbies and other users who really dont want the extra > > tr

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Gould wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM, David Jackson > wrote: > > > >> > >> This is irrelevant. FreeBSD has these options because most of its > >> users are system administrators, developers or other types

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

> This is irrelevant. FreeBSD has these options because most of its > users are system administrators, developers or other types of geeks. > Serving these needs is a major part of what FreeBSD does. That's why > we have the long standing motto: "FreeBSD - The power to serve". > People who don't w

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

tes are completely broken. I wonder how this severe and glaring problem got back FreeBSD engineers. It is such an annoying problem. Why cant they just make things work for people who want binary packages? As it is now, FreeBSD is totally unuseable to me. > Rob > > > On 3/7/12 11:0

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, David Jackson wrote: > > > > >> Especially on systems low on resources, compiling from >> source is _the_ way to squeeze every required (!) bit >> of performance out of code. Even if compiling may require >> some time (due to

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Polytropon wrote: > David, allow me to add a few thoughts: > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:28:47 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > As for compile options, the solution is simple, compile in all feature > > options and the most commonly used set

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

> Many of your issues are non-issues, as your suggestions were > implemented in some form long ago. For example, updated applications > are compiled and available online. You can use "pkg_add -r" to > install the newest binary package that is available, or you can update > your an installed appli

Re: Still having trouble with package upgrades

gs to post here shortly > Regards > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung > Teruuusss...! > > -Original Message- > From: David Jackson > Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 11:28:47 > To: > Subject: Sti

Still having trouble with package upgrades

I still have yet to find a resolution to the problems I have had with binary packages and upgrades on FreeBSD. Binary upgrading is broken with every tool I have tried. There is no real reason why FreeBSD should not provide a facility for users to be able to binary upgrade to the most recent versio

Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-01-30 18:52, David Jackson skrev: > > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on >> Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: >> >> *portupgrade -PP -a >> *portmaster -PP

Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2012-01-31 01:13, > freebsd-lists-erik@**erikosterholm.orgskrev: > > Oh come on, guys. David is the same person who said that FreeBSD was >> poorly documented. >> >> http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd-**questions/2011-12/msg00684.**html

Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: > At 11:42 31/01/2012, you wrote: > >> While your offer is made with the best of intentions, I doubt the >> project would feel able take you up on it. The problem is simply one of >> security -- while crowd-sourcing package compilation would

Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:56 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > > I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to compile > > anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs and would > > rather inst

Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 > David Jackson wrote: > > > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on > > Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: > > > > *portupgr

Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD

I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: *portupgrade -PP -a *portmaster -PP -a *pkg_update All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an unuseable state. Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system "just

Re: Trouble upgrading packages after 9.0 upgrade

hould work out of the box. > > On 1/22/2012 12:42 PM, David Jackson wrote: > >> I upgraded to 9.0. But when i use pkg_upgrade -a, i get this: >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/**FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-**release/INDEX<ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-r

Trouble upgrading packages after 9.0 upgrade

I upgraded to 9.0. But when i use pkg_upgrade -a, i get this: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-9-release/INDEX: File unavailable. Why? Also portupgrade -PP -a also fails spectacurly. Why. It seems like it is getting more and more difficult to use FreeBSD. To upgrade to the most

Re: Clang - what is the story?

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Da Rock < freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au> wrote: > I've been seeing a lot of hoorays and pats on the back and a general > feeling satisfaction in being able to use clang to compile FreeBSD and > ports. The only reason I can see from searching is a need

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

> And that's just the way it is now. Try replicating the wealth of > information you get in various config files in FreeBSD in a GUI. Just > how hard it is to open a simple text file in an editor and just fracking > do what it tells you to in comments?! And it's not just the base > system, any d

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Da Rock > wrote: > > On 01/03/12 12:06, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > >>> > >>> Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

An OS should strive to be a better platform for many people, including techies and non-techies. A good software design philosophy is that good software works out of the box without configuration using reasonable defaults, but, that that the software should be flexible, very configurable, the user

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote: > >> Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || >> jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science >> mailing >> list. It's not like political/ religio

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

> > Again, as we did discuss (and agree upon) before, > supporting FreeBSD is not in the scope of hardware > manufacturers. Supporting more than the platform > they get "aliments" for simply wouldn't pay. The > unit sales for _this_ world of IT are simply to > low to justify the work. > > That is t

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Dec 29 21:46:36 2011 > > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:43:16 -0500 > > From: David Jackson > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: FreeBSD Kernel Internal

FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation

I have had an interest in studying the FreeBSD kernel and getting to know its internals better. After all, in Open source projects, they say, community contributions are important. However, My finding is that due to poor documentation, the FreeBSD kernel is nearly impenetrable to an outsider. I ha

Re: Problems with pkg_upgrade

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 9:43 AM, RW wrote: > On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:14:24 -0500 > David Jackson wrote: > > > > I do think packages need to be better supported on FreeBSD, many > > users do prefer to use packages due to speed and convenience and do > > not prefer t

Re: Problems with pkg_upgrade

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Carl Johnson wrote: > David Jackson writes: > > > Since I wish to use packages instead of ports to update my system, > someone > > recommended I use pkg_upgrade. However, basically, it does not work. It > > gets to downloaded packa

Problems with pkg_upgrade

Since I wish to use packages instead of ports to update my system, someone recommended I use pkg_upgrade. However, basically, it does not work. It gets to downloaded packages. But, after 10 packages, it prints a message "Protocol error" and then "Package x cannot be fetched", where x is the name of

Archived FreeBSD versions

I have been looking for archived versions of FreeBSD back to 2.0. Where can these be found? I have looked on the FTP site but cannot find them there. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-question

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

ice its very difficult to near impossible to change the operating system on handhelds. Thats one reason I dont like most handhelds made today. They are designed to control you. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > > On Wed, July 20, 2011 1:52 pm, David Jackson wrote: > &g

Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore?

I do not believe that these phones or tablets will replace desktop but there is a lot of room for these two types of devices basically to communicate, giving people access to their data and environment from both. The reason I dont see the desktop going anywhere is that, basically people dont want t

Re: Severe instabilities and system lockups

David Jackson wrote: I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system

Severe instabilities and system lockups

I am still having severe problems with severe system instabilities with FreeBSD and have had these problrms in 7.1 and 8.0. The system randomly locks up, it appears applications lock up when they access the USb disk. Also, when accessing the USB disk, the entire system lockup often for minutes.

Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD

Aiza wrote: David Jackson wrote: David Jackson wrote: David Jackson wrote: I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they use

Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD

David Jackson wrote: David Jackson wrote: I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very

Re: Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD

David Jackson wrote: I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes the

Lockups with USB disks on FreeBSD

I am currently using FreeBSD 8.0. I have been, for a long time, been having problems with lockups of FreeBSD 8.0 when using USB hard disks. Sometimes certain applications lock up for several minutes, when they use the disk, file operations are very slow, and sometimes the entire operating syste

Syinstall binary upgrade to FreeBSD 8.0

I would like to upgrade a 7.1 FreeBSD system to 8.0 FreeBSD using sysinstalls binary upgrade feature. I would mainly for now would like to upgrade the core OS and X and so on, but I still have some 7.1 binaries that will still be on the system. Is there binary compatability with 7.1 binaries on

Re: flashplugin

I never had tried to install Linux flash. I did install Windows flash under Firefox on Wine and it worked. I found that the freebsd port for Wine would not work but if I downloaded the source from WineHQ and compiled it would work fine, however, i tried a more recent version of Wine which did n

Re: Lockup problems with USB disks

Thank you. I took a look. I was just wondering if this was a known bug, is it normal, etc. Maciej Milewski wrote: Dnia wtorek 17 listopad 2009 o 15:18:22 David Jackson napisał(a): I have a USB hard drive. Whenever I open two programs which utilise the USB hard drive simultaneously, these

Re: Lockup problems with USB disks

I apologise if this was posted more than once, for some reason the emails i sent were not reflected back to me, so i assumed they had not gone through , i checked the archive on the web page and they were there. For some reason some messages are not coming through on my gmail account. David

Lockup problems with USB disks

I have a USB hard drive. Whenever I open two programs which utilise the USB hard drive simultaneously, these programs, i assume when they attempt to write to the hard drive lock up due to what i suspect must be some issue with the USB driver and perhaps a deadlock involving multiple concurre

Lockup problems on FreeBSD disks

I have a USB hard drive. Whenever I open two programs which utilise the USB hard drive simultaneously, these programs, i assume when they attempt to write to the hard drive lock up due to what i suspect must be some issue with the USB driver and perhaps a deadlock involving multiple concurrent

Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly

Charlie Kester wrote: On Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 17:32:41 PST Charlie Kester wrote: One more thing: Notice that the system call number (or any other dword) should also be pushed onto the stack before the int 80h. The reason for this is given at the top of the page: although the kernel is acce

Problems with freebsd assembly

I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: section .data

Problems with FreeBSD assembly

I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: section .data