Re: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

2005-06-07 Thread Gert Cuykens
When i sent a mail to ,  i get this ?
Are my mails comming true or am i just chit chatting with the mail deamon ?

On 6/5/05, Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
> 
> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
> 
> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
> 
> Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:
> 
>  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> 
> Message will be retried for 2 more day(s)
> 
> Technical details of temporary failure:
> TEMP_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 10): 450 Client host rejected: cannot find 
> your hostname, [64.233.182.203]
> 
>- Message body suppressed -
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Re: mozilla nNCL: registering deferred (0)

2005-06-07 Thread Gert Cuykens
On 6/4/05, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> who wants to see a picture of me trowing a keyboard :)
> 
> tall  -o root -g wheel -m 444
> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla/build/unix/${pcfile}.pc
> /usr/X11R6/libdata/pkgconfig/${pcfile}.pc ;  done
> /bin/rm -fr /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla
> /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla
> /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla
> cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/include/mozilla && /usr/bin/find .
> |  /usr/bin/cpio -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla
> 34554 blocks
> /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/share/applications
> install  -o root -g wheel -m 444
> /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/mozilla.desktop
> /usr/X11R6/share/applications
> ===> Building Chrome's registry...
> No Persistent Registry Found.
> Type Manifest File: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/components/xpti.dat
> nsNativeComponentLoader: autoregistering begins.
> *** Registering xpcomObsoleteModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering xpconnect components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsUConvModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsUCvMathModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsI18nModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsJarModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsCJVMManagerModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering ipcd components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering necko_core_and_primary_protocols components (all right
> -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering necko_secondary_protocols components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering nsPrefModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsSecurityManagerModule components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering nsRDFModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsParserModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsGfxPSModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsGfxXprintModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsGfxGTKModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsImageLib2Module components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsPluginModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsWidgetGtk2Module components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering XRemoteClientModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering nsLayoutModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsMorkModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering docshell_provider components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsProfileModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsPrefMigrationModule components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering embedcomponents components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering Browser_Embedding_Module components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering nsEditorModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsTransactionManagerModule components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering nsComposerModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering appshell components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsChromeModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsAccessibilityModule components (all right -- a
> generic module!)
> *** Registering nsLDAPProtocolModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering BOOT components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering NSS components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering PKI components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsFileViewModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsFindComponent components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering XRemoteServiceModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering application components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsSoftwareUpdate components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering JavaScript_Debugger components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering nsCookieModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsWalletModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsWalletViewerModule components (all right -- a generic 
> module!)
> *** Registering nsXMLExtrasModule components (all right -- a generic module!)
> *** Registering nsP3PModule components (all 

Re: mozilla

2005-05-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On 5/10/05, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/10/05, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 5/9/05, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/9/05, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 14:46 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>> > > Doesnt matter what i do, make clean, portmanager or cvsup. Mozilla
> > >>> > > always gets stuck at the same place i have this problem for months 
> > >>> > > now
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >>> > > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> > >>> > > ===>  Checking if www/mozilla already installed
> > >>> > > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > >>> > > /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > >>> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> > >>> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > >>> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> > >>> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla-config
> > >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > >>> > > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/lib/mozilla && /usr/bin/find . |
> > >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: 
> > >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProxyAutoConfig.js
> > >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsHelperAppDlg.js
> > >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: 
> > >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProgressDialog.js
> > >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: 
> > >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsCloseAllWindows.js
> > >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > ^^^ Make sure Mozilla is deinstalled properly before you try to install
> > >> > it again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > but i removed it properly, it just puts it back every time i try to
> > > install mozilla.
> >
> > If mozilla was deinstalled correctly then the duplicate files in
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/ would not be there.  You haven't said 
> > what you actually did to uninstall mozilla, but I saw no mention of "make 
> > deinstall" or "pkg_delete" or "portupgrade -f".  What does "pkg_info -I 
> > mozilla\*" show?
> >
> > I don't know portmanager, but neither make clean nor cvsup have anything to 
> > do with deinstalling ports.
> >
> > I've installed and deinstalled mozilla about five times in the last few 
> > weeks trying out various patches, and I know that correct deinstallation 
> > will remove the files that cpio is complaining about.  The files are not 
> > gone on your machine, ergo mozilla was not deinstalled correctly.  Why that 
> > happened, there is just too little information to say.
> >
> > --Alex
> 
> wel i removed mozilla with a bit of pkg-delete forcing :) anyway why
> doesnt the make file overwrite it ? And why cant it tell me this
> before the realy realy long building process? It drives me nuts too
> know mozilla works but wont register it every time i try.
> 
>  FX-53R find / -name mozilla
> /usr/ports/www/mozilla
> FX-53R
> 
> See no mozilla anywhere
> 

its like mozilla is a default dependency for every (*&#$#) package,
thats why i forced deleted it to see what happens :)

FX-53R pkg_info -r gimp-2.2.6,1/
Information for gimp-2.2.6,1:

Depends on:
Dependency: pkgconfig-0.17.2
Dependency: expat-1.95.8_1
Dependency: xorg-fonts-encodings-6.8.2
Dependency: jpeg-6b_3
Dependency: libiconv-1.9.2_1
Dependency: gettext-0.14.1
Dependency: png-1.2.8_1
Dependency: freetype2-2.1.9
Dependency: perl-5.8.6_2
Dependency: fontconfig-2.2.3,1
Dependency: mozilla-1.7.7,2  <- WTF
Dependency: glib-2.6.4
Dependency: xorg-libraries-6.8.2
Dependency: bitstream-vera-1.10_1
Dependency: tiff-3.7.2
Dependency: libijs-0.35
Dependency: libxml2-2.6.19
Dependency: popt-1.7
Dependency: shared-mime-info-0.16_1
Dependency: libgpg-error-1.0_1
Dependency: libgcrypt-1.2.1_1
Dependency: libexif-0.6.12_1
Dependency: libart_lgpl2-2.3.17
Dependency: libXft-2.1.6_1
Dependency: libgsf-1.11.1
Dependency: lcms-1.14,1
Dependency: libmng-1.0.8
Dependency: libwmf-0.2.8.3
Dependency: xorg-fonts-truetype-6.8.2
Dependency: libcroco-0.6.0_1
Dependency: gsfonts-8.11_2
Dependency: libIDL-0.8.5_1
Dependency: pango-1.8.1
Dependency: gnutls-1.0.24_1
Dependency: atk-1.9.1
Dependency: hicolor-icon-theme-0.5
Dependency: gimp-print-4.2.7_1
Dependency: gtk-2.6.7
Dependency: gnomehier-2.0_6
Dependency: ghostscript-gnu-7.07_12
Dependency: desktop-file-utils-0.10_2
Dependency: cups-base-1.1.23.0_4
Dependency: cups-pstoraster-7.07_3
Dependency: gtk-engines2-2.6.3_3
Dependency: librsvg2-2.9.5_2
Dependency: aalib-1.4.r5_1
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Re: mozilla

2005-05-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On 5/10/05, Alex Zbyslaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/9/05, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 5/9/05, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> >> > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 14:46 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> > > Doesnt matter what i do, make clean, portmanager or cvsup. Mozilla
> >>> > > always gets stuck at the same place i have this problem for months now
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
> >>> > > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> >>> > > ===>  Checking if www/mozilla already installed
> >>> > > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> >>> > > /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> >>> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> >>> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> >>> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> >>> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla-config
> >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> >>> > > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/lib/mozilla && /usr/bin/find . |
> >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: 
> >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProxyAutoConfig.js
> >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsHelperAppDlg.js
> >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProgressDialog.js
> >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> >>> > > /usr/bin/cpio: 
> >>> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsCloseAllWindows.js
> >>> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > ^^^ Make sure Mozilla is deinstalled properly before you try to install
> >> > it again.
> >
> >
> >
> > but i removed it properly, it just puts it back every time i try to
> > install mozilla.
> 
> If mozilla was deinstalled correctly then the duplicate files in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/ would not be there.  You haven't said 
> what you actually did to uninstall mozilla, but I saw no mention of "make 
> deinstall" or "pkg_delete" or "portupgrade -f".  What does "pkg_info -I 
> mozilla\*" show?
> 
> I don't know portmanager, but neither make clean nor cvsup have anything to 
> do with deinstalling ports.
> 
> I've installed and deinstalled mozilla about five times in the last few weeks 
> trying out various patches, and I know that correct deinstallation will 
> remove the files that cpio is complaining about.  The files are not gone on 
> your machine, ergo mozilla was not deinstalled correctly.  Why that happened, 
> there is just too little information to say.
> 
> --Alex

wel i removed mozilla with a bit of pkg-delete forcing :) anyway why
doesnt the make file overwrite it ? And why cant it tell me this
before the realy realy long building process? It drives me nuts too
know mozilla works but wont register it every time i try.

 FX-53R find / -name mozilla
/usr/ports/www/mozilla
FX-53R 

See no mozilla anywhere
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Re: mozilla

2005-05-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On 5/9/05, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/9/05, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 14:46 +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > Doesnt matter what i do, make clean, portmanager or cvsup. Mozilla
> > > always gets stuck at the same place i have this problem for months now
> >
> > > ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> > > ===>  Checking if www/mozilla already installed
> > > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > > /bin/chmod 755 /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > > install  -o root -g wheel -m 555
> > > /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/bin/mozilla-config
> > > /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > > cd /usr/ports/www/mozilla/work/fake/lib/mozilla && /usr/bin/find . |
> > > /usr/bin/cpio -pdm -L -R root:wheel /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla
> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProxyAutoConfig.js
> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsHelperAppDlg.js
> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsProgressDialog.js
> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> > > /usr/bin/cpio: /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla/./components/nsCloseAllWindows.js
> > > not created: newer or same age version exists
> >
> > ^^^ Make sure Mozilla is deinstalled properly before you try to install
> > it again.
> 
> but i removed it properly, it just puts it back every time i try to
> install mozilla.
>
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Re: fax4CUPS

2005-04-12 Thread Gert Cuykens
On 4/10/05, John Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens writes:
> > On Apr 10, 2005 9:58 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > > Can we have this in ports ?
> > > >
> > > > http://vigna.dsi.unimi.it/fax4CUPS/
> > >
> > > Are you volunteering?
> > >
> > > Anything is possible, but nothing is easy.
> > >
> >
> > How do you mean ?
> >
> > I did not install it yet but it sounds useful if cups could handle a
> > serial fax like a printer :)
> >
> > Aldo i think the script can only send faxes and not handle incoming
> > faxes like printing them or sending them to a mailbox directory. But i
> > am sure you can add some magic faxing features to it :)
> >
> > 10$ its going to be a popular port and for people like you not that
> > hart to add some fax incomming features :) With a little bit of luck
> > you don't have to compile anything :)
> 
> It does work well, (as per the sparse docs in the tar file.) You can
> use efax for incoming faxes, (or better, hylafax, if you can talk
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] into coming down and configuring it for you,) and the
> fax4CUPS does appear as a printer according to lpstat -a, and does
> send faxes, (saved as a postscript file out of openoffice.org, etc.)
> You will have to use cup's lpr -j option to tell it the "fax printer"
> what number to send the fax to, (so you will probably have to
> configure a printer in everyone's openoffice.org, etc.)
> 
> The lpadmin command to install the cups/efax printer is:
> 
>lpadmin -p efax -L machine -D fax -E -v efax:/dev/ttyXX -m efax.ppd
> 
> Where efax.ppd is installed in probably /usr/share/cups/model/, and
> the efax script, (with the first 8 lines modified for your
> configuration,) installed in probably /usr/lib/cups/backend/.
> 
> Note: if "efax answer" is running on /dev/ttyXX from /etc/inittab, it
> may be necessary to disable "efax answer" for the lpadmin command, but
> only to install the "fax printer," (apparently, lpadmin doesn't like
> other things listening on its serial printer ports when it installs
> the printer.)
> 
> If you use efax or hylafax for incoming, enable MIME e-mailing of the
> fax to a faxmaster, who distributes the file to the appropriate
> machine-its default for hylafax. For efax, configure /etc/efax.rc and
> /usr/bin/fax, (these are some script changes,) to send the fax
> attachment as a postscript file so they can be read with
> gv/ghostscript, (which probably came with your cups installation.) The
> efax/tiff file formats come out half size if a low resolution fax is
> received, which is corrected if postscript is used.
> 
> Recommendation: YMMV, but hylafax is a bit difficult to configure, but
> is very robust once running; efax is probably preferable for
> non-industrial strength applications.
> 

 mgetty-fax:/dev/cuaa0 doesnt work :( I read the install and the
manual. I can select the mgetty-fax ppd but i can not select the
mgetty-fax backend... This is the backend file.

#!/bin/bash

PAGE=a4
FAXPRG=/usr/bin/faxspool
LOGDIR=/var/log/mgetty

#
# This is fax4CUPS 1.24, a fax back-end for CUPS
#
# Copyright (C) 2001-2003 Sebastiano Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
#   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
#   under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
#   Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option)
#   any later version.
#
#   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
#   WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY
#   or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License
#   for more details.
#
#   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#   along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#   Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
#
# Modified by Michael Goffioul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
#   - phone number as option instead of job name: "-o phone="
#
# Additional fixes by Kevin Ivory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Additional mgetty-fax support by Daniel Glanzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Modified by Daniel Glanzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
#   - take care of mgetty-fax return values
#   - small cleanup
#
# Additional capisuite support by Daniel Glanzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#

# Called with no arguments, we list the serial devices as possible fax devices.
# If /dev/modem has been set up, we list it too.

if [ $# -eq 0 ]; then
if [ ! -x "$FAXPRG" ]; then exit 0; fi
if [ -e /dev/modem ]; then echo "serial

Re: fax4CUPS

2005-04-10 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 10, 2005 9:58 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > Can we have this in ports ?
> >
> > http://vigna.dsi.unimi.it/fax4CUPS/
> 
> Are you volunteering?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 
> Anything is possible, but nothing is easy.
> 

How do you mean ?

I did not install it yet but it sounds useful if cups could handle a
serial fax like a printer :)

Aldo i think the script can only send faxes and not handle incoming
faxes like printing them or sending them to a mailbox directory. But i
am sure you can add some magic faxing features to it :)

10$ its going to be a popular port and for people like you not that
hart to add some fax incomming features :) With a little bit of luck
you don't have to compile anything :)
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fax4CUPS

2005-04-10 Thread Gert Cuykens
Can we have this in ports ?

http://vigna.dsi.unimi.it/fax4CUPS/

Or somthing simular that can provide fax support in cups ?
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Re: mgetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 10, 2005 6:47 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2005 4:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You have to send modem Hayes "AT" command to configure it to answer
> > incoming calls.
> >
> 
> How do you set this in rc.local ?
> 
> #cu -l cuaa0
> Connected
> at+fclass=?
> 0,1,2
> OK
> ~.
> Disconnected
> 
> Ps whats the diference between a line and a port ?
> http://www.rt.com/man/cu.1.html
> 

Doesnt mgetty do that automaticly ? Why doesnt the fax sent a signal
any body home so mgetty can sent AT ?
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Re: egetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 10, 2005 4:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert
> I see you are using pwd command to display where in directory tree
> you currently pointing
> There is a way to configure FBSD to display the directory path as a
> prefix in front of the command line so you know where you are at in
> the directory tree at all times, thus eliminating the need to use
> the pwd command.
> Issue following command from command line
> 
> set prompt = "# %/ >"# that's "#space%/space>"
> 
> /root/.cshrc gets executed when you log on as root.  Find and change
> the set prompt command in .cshrc to the one above and you will never
> have to use the  pwd  command again.
> 

No its to long then :)
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Re: mgetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 10, 2005 4:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have to send modem Hayes "AT" command to configure it to answer
> incoming calls.
> 

How do you set this in rc.local ?

#cu -l cuaa0
Connected
at+fclass=?
0,1,2
OK
~.
Disconnected

Ps whats the diference between a line and a port ?
http://www.rt.com/man/cu.1.html
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mgetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
When i see this in my process list and there is no dmesg error does
this mean i can receive faxes ?

root486  0.0  0.2  1488  1140  ??  I 2:30AM   0:00.01
/usr/local/sbin/mgetty cuaa0

I dont have a fax to test my fax :)
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Re: egetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 10, 2005 1:04 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where can i find egetty ?
> 
> TB-14R pwd
> /usr/ports
> TB-14R make search key=egetty
> TB-14R
> 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=egetty&stype=all&release=5-STABLE%2Fi386
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egetty

2005-04-09 Thread Gert Cuykens
Where can i find egetty ?

TB-14R pwd
/usr/ports
TB-14R make search key=egetty
TB-14R
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usb console

2005-04-07 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is it possible to do the console thingie not with a null modem serial
cable but with a usb cable ?

When you do the serial console, it means that you have a screen like
it was the other pc's screen, right ? With boot messages and
everything, able to do whatever you want like your keybord and screen
was connected to the serial server itself right ?
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Re: efax with a serial 3com us robotics 56k modem

2005-04-05 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 5, 2005 2:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I believe your xfax modem is what is called a winmodem.
> These type of cheap modems are built just for the ms/windows market
> and do not work on FreeBSD.
> They are missing the onboard hardware controller which is why you
> have to install the win driver that comes with it.
> 
> http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/fbsd_installguide/index.php
> 
> The above URL has very good step by step instructions on
> configurating ppp for external modem with info on how to verify if
> your modem is a winmodem.

tip com1
connected
AT
ok

It works yahoo i have a working modem :) 
Does a fax uses ppp ?
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Re: printing

2005-04-05 Thread Gert Cuykens
Does anybody know if i need to install a extra cups pkg and what the
uri is for a windows shared printer ?

smb://workgroup/server/sharename ?
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mc superuser

2005-04-05 Thread Gert Cuykens
is there a command you can do in mc that gives mc su rights without closing it ?
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printing

2005-04-05 Thread Gert Cuykens
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing.html

I just went trough this and the words that came to my mind when i
finaly reach the end was "O MY GOD"

Its a very nice manual but it gives you this "Do i really need a
printer ?" feeling.

This part i liked alot about the usb :)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-intro-setup.html#PRINTING-HARDWARE

"USB interfaces, named for the Universal Serial Bus, can run at even
faster speeds than parallel or RS232 serial interfaces. Cables are
simple and cheap. USB is superior to RS232 Serial and to Parallel for
printing, but it is not as well supported under UNIX(r) systems. A way
to avoid this problem is to purchase a printer that has both a USB
interface and a Parallel interface, as many printers do."

lol, a very nice translation that says usb = no printing :)

So my question is, for printing sake let there be a other way. 
What do you use to print stuff, for example on a shared windows printer :) 

I guess there are only 3 choses LPD LPRng CUPS ?
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efax with a serial 3com us robotics 56k modem

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
yes i read the manual :P

I have been reading about ppp and about sio and scrolled trough the big man efax

The good news is 

TB-14R dmesg | grep sio
usb0: USB revision 1.0
usb1: USB revision 1.0
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
TB-14R

The bad news is that there is no fax tutorial for freebsd dummies :)
And i dont know wich serial port is sio0 or sio1 I connected the fax
to god knows wich sio and said "ok modem start faxing" hoping for a
mirical the sio was plug and play detected the fax and conected it
with my email client so i could sent and receive faxes.

Ps can you setup tty terminal trough usb ? It would be cool if i could
replace my vidiocart with a usb cable :)
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Re: freebsd disc 1

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 5, 2005 2:53 AM, Danny Pansters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:46, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > > On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > >>>Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution
> > > >>> list
> > > >>>
> > > >>>[ ] cvsupdate-nogui
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for
> > > >>> changes :)
> > > >>
> > > >>Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too.
> > > >
> > > > Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :)
> > > > I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup
> > > > pannel :)
> > >
> > > BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script
> >
> > Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ?
> > If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too
> 
> Standard ftpd runs through inetd.
> 
> > PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ?
> 
> Nope. It's a subsystem of sshd, its client interface only resembles ftp just
> as scp resembles rcp.
> 

i that case i dont need ftpd :) so i change my vote to leave all the
insecurity in one big insecure inetd server :)
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Re: freebsd disc 1

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>
> >>>Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list
> >>>
> >>>[ ] cvsupdate-nogui
> >>>
> >>>Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :)
> >>
> >>Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too.
> >
> > Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :)
> > I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel 
> > :)
> 
> BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script
> 

Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ?
If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too

PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ?
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Re: exec make buildworld

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 8:03 PM, Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >  think it did not work because you have to do "exec make buildworld >
> > log.file & logout" dont know did not try it yet :)
> >
> > Is ctrl+D the same as close exit or logout or does it stand for detach
> > and run in the background ?
> 
> Cntl-D when read as input means EOF.  The shell reads commands until it
> reaches the end of the shell script, or the end of user input, and then
> exits.  Cntl-D thus behaves similar to exit or logout.
> 
> [ EOF really is a state of mind, not a character. ]
> 
> >  If i do ctrl +D in a terminal doing nothing ?
> 
> Your shell will exit.
> 
> > Will the terminal be runing forever in the background doing
> > nothing untill i kill it ?
> 
> Nope.  Your terminal window will notice the child shell process go
> away, and will do the same thing.
> 
> > Where can you find a list of csh ctrl commands ?
> 
> These aren't specific to csh, but see "stty -a".
> 

what does stty stand for ?

signal text terminal y... ?

FX-53U stty -a
speed 38400 baud; 24 rows; 80 columns;
lflags: icanon isig iexten echo echoe echok echoke -echonl echoctl
-echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho pendin -nokerninfo
-extproc
iflags: -istrip icrnl -inlcr -igncr ixon -ixoff -ixany imaxbel -ignbrk
brkint -inpck ignpar -parmrk
oflags: opost onlcr -ocrnl -oxtabs -onocr -onlret
cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd -hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts
-dsrflow -dtrflow -mdmbuf
cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ;
eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U;
lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q;
status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;
FX-53U 

So ^D stand for end of file, what does this mean time = 0; ?
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Re: freebsd disc 1

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list
> >
> > [ ] cvsupdate-nogui
> >
> > Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :)
> 
> Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Andrew P.
>

Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) 
I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :)
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Re: exec make buildworld

2005-04-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 12:03 PM, Andrew P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 06:16:14AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >
> >>On Apr 4, 2005 6:07 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Is it possible to do a ssh conection then do exec make buildworld on
> >>>the remote system close the conection and do a conection again later
> >>>and get the output from make buildworld again ?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Doh i forgot the important part again, without using screen :)
> >
> >
> > # make buildworld >& log.file &
> > # logout
> 
> It's kinda strange, but it didn't work for me yesterday.
> The build stopped as soon as I logged out, I used
> Ctrl-D instead of logout though.
> 
> What I find more comfortable is
> # at + 1 minute
> make buildworld
> Ctrl-D
> 
> Some time after I have new mail, containing all the
> output (stdout and stderr) from the task. That's cute.
> 

i think it did not work because you have to do "exec make buildworld >
log.file & logout" dont know did not try it yet :)

Is ctrl+D the same as close exit or logout or does it stand for detach
and run in the background ? If i do ctrl +D in a terminal doing
nothing ? Will the terminal be runing forever in the background doing
nothing untill i kill it ?
Where can you find a list of csh ctrl commands ?
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freebsd disc 1

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list 

[ ] cvsupdate-nogui

Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :)
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Re: make installkernel error

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 6:22 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ===> usr.bin/bluetooth
> ===> usr.bin/bluetooth/bthost
> install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   bthost /usr/bin
> install -o root -g wheel -m 444 bthost.1.gz  /usr/share/man/man1
> ===> usr.bin/bluetooth/btsockstat
> install -s -o root -g kmem -m 2555   btsockstat /usr/bin
> install: kmem: Invalid argument
> *** Error code 67
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/bluetooth/btsockstat.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/bluetooth.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/src.
> TB-14R
> 

doh i did make install kernel instead of make installkernel
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make installkernel error

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
===> usr.bin/bluetooth
===> usr.bin/bluetooth/bthost
install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555   bthost /usr/bin
install -o root -g wheel -m 444 bthost.1.gz  /usr/share/man/man1
===> usr.bin/bluetooth/btsockstat
install -s -o root -g kmem -m 2555   btsockstat /usr/bin
install: kmem: Invalid argument
*** Error code 67

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/bluetooth/btsockstat.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/bluetooth.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
TB-14R
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Re: exec make buildworld

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 4, 2005 6:07 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to do a ssh conection then do exec make buildworld on
> the remote system close the conection and do a conection again later
> and get the output from make buildworld again ?
> 

Doh i forgot the important part again, without using screen :)
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exec make buildworld

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is it possible to do a ssh conection then do exec make buildworld on
the remote system close the conection and do a conection again later
and get the output from make buildworld again ?
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Re: Boot manager

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 9:24 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 9:07 PM, Christopher Nehren
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On 2005-04-03, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> > curious markings:
> > > It doesnt have colors
> >
> > So? It's a boot manager, not a piece of artwork.
> >
> > > It doesnt look pretty
> >
> > Ditto.
> >
> > > It writes ?? instead of windows
> >
> > It prints ?? because it can't possibly imagine why you'd want to make
> > that choice. :)
> >
> > > Nobody knows how it works for example how to install it witout sysinstall 
> > > :P
> >
> > Someone else responded to this.
> >
> 
> This is a nice explanation about boot stuff but it would be nicer if
> it had the words man boot0cfg somewhere :P
>  

I ment this one :)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html#BOOT-LOADER
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Re: Boot manager

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 9:07 PM, Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 2005-04-03, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > It doesnt have colors
> 
> So? It's a boot manager, not a piece of artwork.
> 
> > It doesnt look pretty
> 
> Ditto.
> 
> > It writes ?? instead of windows
> 
> It prints ?? because it can't possibly imagine why you'd want to make
> that choice. :)
> 
> > Nobody knows how it works for example how to install it witout sysinstall :P
> 
> Someone else responded to this.
> 


This is a nice explanation about boot stuff but it would be nicer if
it had the words man boot0cfg somewhere :P
 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/users-introduction.html
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Re: Boot manager

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 7:33 PM, Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 2005-04-03, Teilhard Knight scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > Could you recommend a good boot manager, please? I mean, to boot several
> > OSs, but not relying on Lilo. Not Xosl, because it doesn't work together
> > with a Drive Overlay.
> 
> What's wrong with FreeBSD's boot manager?
> 

It doesnt have colors
It doesnt look pretty
It writes ?? instead of windows
Nobody knows how it works for example how to install it witout sysinstall :P

look a birdy zwoef (running away)
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Re: 1001:1001::0:0

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 8:25 PM, Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the last episode (Apr 03), Gert Cuykens said:
> > On Apr 3, 2005 7:57 PM, Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In the last episode (Apr 03), Gert Cuykens said:
> > > > what does 1001:1001::0:0 in vipw mean ?
> > > >
> > > > i thought 1001 is the user id ? And 0 the x screen : 0 the x
> > > > display? Why are there 2 times 1001 written ?
> > >
> > > The passwd manpage explains it (man 5 passwd).  The first two
> > > numbers are the uid and primary gid, the next empty field is the
> > > login class (see the login.conf manpage), and the next two fields
> > > are the password and account expiry times (which are currently
> > > unused).
> > >
> >
> > thx so its
> >
> > user id : group id : login class : begin date : end date
> 
> Actually:
> 
> user id : group id : login class : password expire date : account expire date
> 

doh! :)
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Re: 1001:1001::0:0

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
Alrighdy i found the honny jar :)

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/users-introduction.html
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Re: 1001:1001::0:0

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 8:18 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 7:57 PM, Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In the last episode (Apr 03), Gert Cuykens said:
> > > what does 1001:1001::0:0 in vipw mean ?
> > >
> > > i thought 1001 is the user id ? And 0 the x screen : 0 the x display?
> > > Why are there 2 times 1001 written ?
> >
> > The passwd manpage explains it (man 5 passwd).  The first two numbers
> > are the uid and primary gid, the next empty field is the login class
> > (see the login.conf manpage), and the next two fields are the password
> > and account expiry times (which are currently unused).
> >
 
thx so its

user id : group id : login class : begin date : end date
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1001:1001::0:0

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
what does 1001:1001::0:0 in vipw mean ?

i thought 1001 is the user id ? And 0 the x screen : 0 the x display ?
Why are there 2 times 1001 written ?
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Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 6:27 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 3:19 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > On Apr 3, 2005 7:22 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Is boot0 a bootmanager ?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did
> > >>
> > >>mount /dev/ad1 /mnt
> > >>cd /mnt/boot
> > >>fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0
> > >>
> > >>fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes
> > >>fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no
> > >>
> > >>but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded 
> > >>:(
> > >>what did i do wrong ?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > i did it again but i answert 2 times yes now
> > > i have a boot manager this time but only f1 (windows) works when i
> > > press f2 nothing happens ?
> >
> > I believe the handbook covers dual booting. Please consider reading it a
> > few times - as I mentioned before, the Handbook will answer most of your
> > questions.
> >
> > In addition, search this list for "other" methods of doing dual boots
> > with Windows. It's been covered many times.
> >
> 
> The manual says sysinstall menu... boot manager... done I already did
> that and it works fine but i want to learn how to do it in fixit mode
> with fdisk -B b /dev/ad1 /mnt/boot/boot0
> 
> Windows is booting fine when i did that but freebsd doesnt boot what
> did i forget to do ?
> 

I tryed disklabel -B /dev/ad1s2 it tels me partition a b c d: offset
past unit and partition c doesnt start at 0 ?
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Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device

2005-04-03 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 3:19 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2005 7:22 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Is boot0 a bootmanager ?
> >>>
> >>
> >>I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did
> >>
> >>mount /dev/ad1 /mnt
> >>cd /mnt/boot
> >>fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0
> >>
> >>fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes
> >>fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no
> >>
> >>but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded :(
> >>what did i do wrong ?
> >>
> >
> >
> > i did it again but i answert 2 times yes now
> > i have a boot manager this time but only f1 (windows) works when i
> > press f2 nothing happens ?
> 
> I believe the handbook covers dual booting. Please consider reading it a
> few times - as I mentioned before, the Handbook will answer most of your
> questions.
> 
> In addition, search this list for "other" methods of doing dual boots
> with Windows. It's been covered many times.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 
> Real programmers can do octal, hexadecimal and
> binary math in their heads.
> 

The manual says sysinstall menu... boot manager... done I already did
that and it works fine but i want to learn how to do it in fixit mode
with fdisk -B b /dev/ad1 /mnt/boot/boot0

Windows is booting fine when i did that but freebsd doesnt boot what
did i forget to do ?
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Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 7:22 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is boot0 a bootmanager ?
> >
> 
> I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did
> 
> mount /dev/ad1 /mnt
> cd /mnt/boot
> fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0
> 
> fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes
> fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no
> 
> but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded :(
> what did i do wrong ?
> 

i did it again but i answert 2 times yes now
i have a boot manager this time but only f1 (windows) works when i
press f2 nothing happens ?
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Re: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mar 31, 2005 3:34 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is boot0 a bootmanager ?
>

I booted cd2 went into fixit mode did

mount /dev/ad1 /mnt
cd /mnt/boot
fdisk -B -b /dev/ad1 boot0

fdisk ask me to write boot record i said yes
fdisk ask me to write partition table i said no

but i still dont have my freebsd bootmanager back and windows get loaded :(
what did i do wrong ?
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 3:09 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 3:02 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > > > FX-53R rm -r /stand
> > > > > FX-53R ls
> > > > > bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> > > > > bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
> > > > > FX-53R
> > > > >
> > > > > Doesnt this look much better :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dont forget rm -r /boot
> > > >
> > >
> > > but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first
> > > i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue
> > >
> >
> > i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was
> > empty so now my / looks like
> >
> > FX-53R ls
> > bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var
> > bootentropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> > FX-53R
> >
> > i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ?
> >
> 
> i also noticed /proc is empty but i read in the manual
> 
> /proc   Process file system; see procfs(5), mount_procfs(8).
> 
> "better ask Eric" i was thinking before removing
>

The folowing may be a tricky one how to move the /entropy to /boot/entropy
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 3:02 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > > FX-53R rm -r /stand
> > > > FX-53R ls
> > > > bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> > > > bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
> > > > FX-53R
> > > >
> > > > Doesnt this look much better :)
> > > >
> > > > Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dont forget rm -r /boot
> > >
> >
> > but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first
> > i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue
> >
> 
> i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was
> empty so now my / looks like
> 
> FX-53R ls
> bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var
> bootentropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> FX-53R
> 
> i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ?
> 

i also noticed /proc is empty but i read in the manual

/proc   Process file system; see procfs(5), mount_procfs(8).

"better ask Eric" i was thinking before removing
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 2:52 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > FX-53R rm -r /stand
> > > FX-53R ls
> > > bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> > > bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
> > > FX-53R
> > >
> > > Doesnt this look much better :)
> > >
> > > Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Dont forget rm -r /boot
> >
> 
> but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first
> i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue
> 

i changed the fstab for the cdrom to /mnt and the compat and dist was
empty so now my / looks like

FX-53R ls
bin dev etc libexec procsbintmp var
bootentropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
FX-53R 

i need some advice on the /rescue and /sys doh ?
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 2:46 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > FX-53R rm -r /stand
> > FX-53R ls
> > bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> > bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
> > FX-53R
> >
> > Doesnt this look much better :)
> >
> > Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
> >
> >
> 
> Dont forget rm -r /boot
> 

but i like /boot :) maybe i can rename it later to /freebsd but first
i want to get rit of /cdrom /compat /sys /rescue
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 3, 2005 2:42 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FX-53R rm -r /stand
> FX-53R ls
> bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
> bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
> FX-53R
> 
> Doesnt this look much better :)
> 
> Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
 oh i forgot /cdrom
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
FX-53R rm -r /stand
FX-53R ls
bin cdrom   dev entropy lib mnt rescue  sys usr
bootcompat  distetc libexec procsbintmp var
FX-53R 

Doesnt this look much better :)

Next what do i have to do to remove /compat  /sys and /rescue ?
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Re: console mail client

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 2, 2005 8:21 AM, Wayne K9DI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 07:20:04AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > So the one i could found where
> >
> > -elmo
> > -cone
> > -mutt
> > -pine
> > -mail
> > ..  Wich one do you use ?
> 
> I use Mutt.  Mutt is a MUA, and needs to be used in conjunction with other 
> apps
> like fetchmail, and your choice of MTA (like exim, postfix and others).
> Procmail is a very handy mail filtering app.
> I was introduced to Mutt by a friend who is totally blind.
> 
> Sincerely and Respectfully Yours
> 
> Wayne M. Scace
> 
> k9bsd (at) k9di (dot) org
> 

so if i understand it corectly the hole mail thingie is based on

-a mail client (mutt) 
-a mail sender (sendmail)
-a mail storage (postfix)
-a mail receiver (fetchmail)
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Re: sendmail

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 2, 2005 8:03 AM, Ben Munat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>Just use the mail command. (the man page for mail is smaller)
> >
> >
> > i read man mail and there is nothing about attachments in mail unless
> > reading a file includes reading a movie file ?
> >
> >
> >>Why don't you just use your favorite mua to send it?  What about
> >>using something like icq, ymessenger, etc?
> >
> >
> > Against my religion
> >
> > Any other mail clients that are a bit more teletubie because mail
> > looks like is made by the same guy vi made.
> 
> Not sure if you're asking for recommendations or just complaining about mail 
> programs, but...
> 
> Do you have a mail program installed? What are you using to write your mails 
> to this list?
> Just use that to send the movie. If you're just using sendmail and that's the 
> problem, are
> you running a windowing envrionment? If so, kde and gnome come with mail 
> clients, I
> believe. Also, thunderbird is a good mail program from the mozilla folks. If 
> you're not
> running a windowing environment, pine and mutt are command line mail programs 
> that both do
> attachments (and how to do so is clearly indicated in the man page).
> 
> b
> 

I use gmail and for some reason it doesnt want to sent it ?
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 2, 2005 7:06 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>It bugs me...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have
> >>>>>been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you
> >>>>>going to do?
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live
> >>>with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing
> >>>the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :)
> >>>
> >>>The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of
> >>>the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user.
> >>
> >>Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick
> >>with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly
> >>have no idea what you are doing.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Best regards,
> >>Chris
> >>
> >>When in doubt, mumble.
> >>When in trouble, delegate.
> >>When in charge, ponder.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just
> > close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop
> > open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The
> > difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get
> > away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :)
> >
> >
> 
> That is by far the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Name me one OS
> that "allows" yoo to pull crap like that and not have issues.
> 

Freebsd does so far :) i already moved the /root directory delete some
/.hidenfiles and just about to get rit of /stand if Erick tells me my
single user mode will still work , and it is only needed by
sysinstall.
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Re: ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 2, 2005 10:52 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Mar 31, 2005 3:47 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install
> >>cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ?
> >>
> >>Any ideas how to fix it ?
> >>
> >
> >
> > how do you install base, ports and cvsup from cd ?
> 
> Some advice (In a nice way) Read the Handbook
> (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html)
> 
> Then, read it again, and finally - one last time. 80% of your questions
> can and will be answered if you only take the time to read, digest, and
> unsderstand.
>  

Are you refering to this ?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html

Becuase now it works ?

PS So here i am thinking base and ports and just a little program like
cvsup would not ask much compiling time. (buzzer) MUEET!!!
(/buzzer) I dont know excatly how many dependency's cvsup has but it
has allot...
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-02 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 2, 2005 10:50 AM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>It bugs me...
> >>>
> >>>NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have
> >>>been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you
> >>>going to do?
> >>>
> >
> >
> > See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live
> > with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing
> > the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :)
> >
> > The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of
> > the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user.
> 
> Are you trying to make FreeBSD look or feel like Linux? If so - stick
> with Linux. Otherwise why are you tampering with it when you clearly
> have no idea what you are doing.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 
> When in doubt, mumble.
> When in trouble, delegate.
> When in charge, ponder.
> 

I am not tampering with it i am modifying it :) You learn allot, just
close your eyes sroll trough the / directory and when you say stop
open your eyes again and try to move or delete the file. The
difference between a good and a bad os is the good one let you get
away with it by changing some stuff the bad os well just crashes :)
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console mail client

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
So the one i could found where 

-elmo
-cone
-mutt
-pine
-mail

Are there others you like better ? Wich one do you use ?
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Re: nNCL:registering deferred (0)

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mar 25, 2005 2:28 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:23:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:13:10 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I wanted to reinstall mozilla but this time with the mail thingie enabled.
> > > I did make config make deinstall make reinstall but it get stuck doing
> > > nothing at the end saying nNCL:registering deferred (0)
> > >
> >
> > Any body knows how to fix this ?
> >
> > The google bowl tels me this
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2004-September/008360.html
> >
> 
> I want my mozilla back :(
> 

i think i finally know what the problem is i forced this pkg to be
deleted and somehow it did not deleted everything becuase i can still
run mozilla but it doesnt start up, it just drives my processor to
100% :)

So how do i get a list off all installed files with the make command
like pkg_info -L does ?
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Re: sendmail

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
> Just use the mail command. (the man page for mail is smaller)

i read man mail and there is nothing about attachments in mail unless
reading a file includes reading a movie file ?

> Why don't you just use your favorite mua to send it?  What about
> using something like icq, ymessenger, etc?

Against my religion

Any other mail clients that are a bit more teletubie because mail
looks like is made by the same guy vi made.
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 1, 2005 11:11 AM, Erik Nørgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > It bugs me...
> 
> yes you can. If you need to run sysinstall later it will be in
> /usr/sbin/sysinstall
> 
> You might want to check your init_path in loader.conf, in
> /boot/defaults/loader.conf it is set to
> 
>/sbin/init:/sbin/oinit:/sbin/init.bak:/stand/sysinstall
> 
> it would be sensible to replace /stand/sysinstall by /rescue/init
> 

What happens if i leave /stand/sysinstall and put nothing in return ?
How will singel user look like ?
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Re: can i delete /stand ?

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 1, 2005 11:54 PM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2005 7:05 AM, Donald J. O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:26 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > It bugs me...
> >
> > NO, leave things as they are. If you delete all the things that have
> > been bugging you, you'll have an in-operative system. then what are you
> > going to do?
> >
 
See the thing is i like /bin. /sbin is a bit to much but i can live
with it, i prefer one bin instead of two but /stand is just crossing
the line here :) You put it in bin or in sbin but thats it :)
 
The same reason my shuffled my /root into /usr/root/ and got rit of
the /usr/home/user and put it in /usr/user.
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Re: i did it again

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 1, 2005 11:57 AM, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-04-01 03:46, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 04:42:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>On 2005-04-01 03:31, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> what is a termcap ?
> >>
> >> There's a manpage for this one.
> >
> >
> > so termcap is like a x server but then for terminals ?
> 
> Not really.  The termcap(5) manpage describes this in (hopefully)
> adequate detail:
> 
> % TERMCAP(5)FreeBSD File Formats Manual   TERMCAP(5)
> %
> % NAME
> %  termcap -- terminal capability data base
> %
> % SYNOPSIS
> %  termcap
> %
> % DESCRIPTION
> %  The termcap file is a data base describing terminals, used, for
> %  example, by vi(1) and ncurses(3).  Terminals are described in
> %  termcap by giving a set of capabilities that they have and by
> %  describing how operations are performed.  Padding requirements
> %  and initialization sequences are included in termcap.
> %  [...]
> 

isnt that the same as xserver does for xclients telling the clients
what they can and cant do ?
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Re: sendmail

2005-04-01 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Apr 1, 2005 9:59 AM, Erik Nørgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gert Cuykens wrote:
> >>Just how big is this movie and are you sure his ISP's/private
> >>mail server would even accept it?
> >>
> > Its 5.5mb and my gmail doesnt want to sent it :(
> >
> > So how do you do that with the sendmail command ?
> 
> As everyone else notes, this is not a job for e-mailing. Even if you
> want to e-mail the file, it is not a job for sendmail. When you send
> attachments they are typically base64 encoded, this explodes the file
> from 5.5MB to about 8MB.
> 
> You can cut it up in two ways: Use transcode to make shorter clips and
> send separately or convert the file to base64, then cut it up manually
> and ask your friend to concateneate the attachments and deconvert from
> base64.
> 
> The second option is the low tech - transcode is not designed to be user
> friendly.
> 
> But, as everyone suggest: Setup anon ftp, an apache webserver, or give
> ssh access - all of these are faster, simpler and better. This is
> posible if you are not NAT'ed and have a reasonably fixed ip.
> 
> Erik

well i can setup a ftp but then i have to leave my pc on all the time
, people need to sleep you know and i cant sleep whith
PR in the background. irc wasnt made
to sent files either and look at it now , its more popular then ftp :)

So how do i get a movie in my friends mailbox using sentmail ? I was
thinking in de lines of sendmail -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] -a movie.mpeg -m
hello.txt -s hello ?
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Re: ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mar 31, 2005 3:47 AM, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install
> cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ?
> 
> Any ideas how to fix it ?
> 

how do you install base, ports and cvsup from cd ?
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Re: i did it again

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 04:42:55 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-04-01 03:31, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 5. Mount all the rest, and then set your TERM to cons25 (TERM should be
> > > set IIRC only after termcap is available):
> > >
> > > # mount -va
> > > # TERM=cons25 ; export TERM
> >
> > what is IIRC ?
> 
> ``If I recall correctly''
> 
> > what is a termcap ?
> 
> There's a manpage for this one.
> 

so termcap is like a x server but then for terminals ?
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Re: i did it again

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 04:21:07 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-04-01 01:29, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i putted mysqlsafe in my rc.local and found out ctrl + c doesnt work :)
> > In single user mode i wanted to edit the file but joe crashed and vi
> > was very strange. it was like it only had one line to display the file
> > and the arrow keys where acting strange ?
> 
> Bring up all the file systems manually, and you should be set to edit
> any file with TERM=cons25.  This should be something like:
> 
> 1. Start in single-user mode.  When you enter the root shell of the
> single user mode, there's only one filesystem (the root filesystem) and
> this one is mounted read-only.
> 
> 2. If your system clock is set to local time (and not UTC), run
> adjkerntz.
> 
> # adjkerntz -i
> 
> 3. Do minimal sanity checks for all file systems:
> 
> # fsck -p
> 
> 4. Remount the root file system as read-write:
> 
> # mount -u /
> 
> 5. Mount all the rest, and then set your TERM to cons25 (TERM should be
> set IIRC only after termcap is available):
> 
> # mount -va
> # TERM=cons25 ; export TERM
> 
> 6. Edit your /etc/rc.local with any editor you prefer.
> 
> 7. Exit the single user shell and let the system go on booting in
> multi-user mode, as usual.
> 

what is IIRC ?
what is a termcap ?
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can i delete /stand ?

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
It bugs me...
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Re: sendmail

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:03:09 -0500, wizlayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 31 March 2005 07:47 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > i want to send a movie to a friend ? How do you do that with
> > sendmail ? I know i know i read the man but its like this
> > [] long
> 
> Well...  You could always break it up so it will be like this...
> 
> []
> []
> []
> []
> []
> []
> []
> []
> []
> 
> That way it seem so long.  :)
> 
> Just how big is this movie and are you sure his ISP's/private
> mail server would even accept it?
> 
> WizLayer
> 

Its 5.5mb and my gmail doesnt want to sent it :(

So how do you do that with the sendmail command ?
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sendmail

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
i want to send a movie to a friend ? How do you do that with sendmail
? I know i know i read the man but its like this
[] long
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Re: .xinitrc

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:26:44 -0500, Charles Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > thx ps what is the difference between exec and without exec
> 
> Read "man sh":
> 
>   exec [command [arg ...]]
>   Unless command is omitted, the shell process is replaced
> with the
>   specified program (which must be a real program, not a
> shell
>   built-in command or function).  Any redirections on the
> exec com-
>   mand are marked as permanent, so that they are not undone
> when
>   the exec command finishes.
> 

ok thx
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i did it again

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
i putted mysqlsafe in my rc.local and found out ctrl + c doesnt work :) 
In single user mode i wanted to edit the file but joe crashed and vi
was very strange. it was like it only had one line to display the file
and the arrow keys where acting strange ? Any ideas how i can fix this
? I read somthing with missing /etc/termcap ?
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Re: .xinitrc

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:10:50 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:06:15 +0200
> Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > How do you start two things ?
> >
> > exec unclutter -root
> > exec enlightenment
> >
> > When i do this it only execute the first one
> 
> exec unclutter -root &
> exec enlightenment
> 

thx ps what is the difference between exec and without exec
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.xinitrc

2005-03-31 Thread Gert Cuykens
How do you start two things ?

exec unclutter -root
exec enlightenment 

When i do this it only execute the first one
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wmv to avi

2005-03-30 Thread Gert Cuykens
is there a tool you can convert wmv mov rm to something standaart ?
what about mpeg to something smaller ?
can mplayer do this ?

PS is totem better then mplayer ?
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ports compile error cvsup (libtool15)

2005-03-30 Thread Gert Cuykens
I installed 5.3 base and ports on a new pc. Then i wanted to install
cvsup-without-gui but it gives me a compile error at libtool15 ?

Any ideas how to fix it ?
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fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device

2005-03-30 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is boot0 a bootmanager ?
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Re: x server

2005-03-29 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:58:27 +0200, Danny Pansters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 March 2005 04:42, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > Why does x server always use a avarage of 1% cpu time while i am doing
> > nothing ? Everything els is 0% except x and enlightenment ?
> 
> Probably the load of showing content or waiting for input, and the like. X is
> big. It also uses a lot (if possible an awful lot) of memory. Showing
> graphics can be a complicated thing which can require the cpu to do some work
> now and then (think placement, repainting, frequency locking, and so on and
> having to wait for those and catch the signals if they change).
> 
> If I would have my TV viewer running (kmplayer) and do nothing for an extended
> period of time I bet it would show a lot more cpu than 1% still.
> 
> Same with websites that use heavy and/or broken javascripts or flash. Can yank
> up cpu easily even for common tasks. I have a brand new oven (thats an intel
> mobo with a 3.4 GHz processor) and it gets a lot more noisy (fans spinning
> faster) when making world (in 35 minutes) or playing a dvd or a low bandwidth
> encoded mediastream in (k)mplayer. Anything that makes the cpu really have to
> work.
> 
> Besides, the optimal cpu time used for any process is 100% as they all compete
> for cpu bandwidth (if the system would be under duress). So basically your
> system is doing great and is not overloaded at all. It's gravely underused
> one might argue ;-)
> 


What is the difference between a console and a xserver ? My console is
always 0% and it has a mouse too just as the xserver showing the same
thing ?
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x server

2005-03-29 Thread Gert Cuykens
Why does x server always use a avarage of 1% cpu time while i am doing
nothing ? Everything els is 0% except x and enlightenment ?
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Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:18:00 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 2005-03-29, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > but those instruction supposed to be written in a nice blue make
> > config screen where you can select them.
> 
> That's your opinion.
> 
> > So who can make a config screen for that port ?
> 
> You can.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Christopher Nehren

And how do you make a config screen ?
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Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:04:50 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-03-28, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > 01:39 <@root> Trying to get all accounts connected...
> > 01:39 <@root> Support for protocol MSN is not included in this BitlBee
> 
> Did you read the Makefile? Did you follow the instructions contained
> therein?

no :P

but those instruction supposed to be written in a nice blue make
config screen where you can select them.

So who can make a config screen for that port ?
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Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:53:35 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:39:42 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +, Paul Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style
> > > > shell chat ?
> > >
> > > I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee:
> > >
> > > http://www.bitlbee.org/
> > >
> >
> > looks promising :) Do we have a port on that ?
> >
> yep :)
> 
> /usr/ports/irc/bitlbee
> 
01:39 <@root> Trying to get all accounts connected...
01:39 <@root> Support for protocol MSN is not included in this BitlBee



Why ? Its 0.92 ?
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:45:04 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?
> 
> Have you tried using the backscroll, accessible (in irssi at least) with
> Page Up / Page Down?
> 

no :P
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:13:18 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ?
> 
> /set beep_msg_level hilight
> 
> I recommend perusing through irssi's online help. You'd be surprised at
> what's available (even *I'm* surprised, and I've been using it for a
> while; even tinkered with the Perl API).

Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?
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Re: inetd vs standalone daemon

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:13:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is inetd a daemon that start other daemons ?
> YES
> 
> > Is sql and apache a standalone daemon ?
> YES
> 
> > Can i delete inetd ?
> Just don't start it at boot time

and that would be (rc.conf) inetd_enable="NO" ?
 
> > I vote we get rid of inetd :)
> It's your box, do what ever you want

So how do we remove it from freebsd ? Please let it be a pkg_delete :)
If not witch freebsd source developer do i need to pull his leg to
remove it from source into a pkg ?
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Re: inetd vs standalone daemon

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:05:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 07:46:09PM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > Can i delete inetd ?
> 
> Why would you want to? Just don't enable it from /etc/rc.conf
> and you'll be fine. If you need it, you can always enable it
> later. Many machines run just fine without inetd. It all depends
> what you wanna do.
> 
> > I vote we get rid of inetd :)
> 
> No. With inetd, you can also turn regular filters into network
> aware programs (sort of). And not every network service is always
> needed all the time. Having a deamon for each of those seldom used
> services hanging around is just wastful.

i think its less wasteful cpu time to run separate daemons then to run
1 big daemon. Because the big daemon needs to find out which service
it needs to start every time a fedex guy is knocking at the door while
a separate daemon already knows what it needs to do before the fedex
guy is standing at the door.
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:41:25 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
> curious markings:
> >> Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
> >> *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
> >> usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
> >> terminal bell.
> >
> > so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ?
> 
> By default, screen translates terminal bells into messages which are
> displayed at the bottom of the screen. The bad thing about this is that
> it dismisses such messages as soon as you hit a key. What this means is
> that if you're typing away at a document of some sort and someone
> mentions your nick on IRC, you may not notice. Using ^A-G (default
> keybindings) will make the bell audible, so that you'll be able to hear
> it. Whether your terminal emulation program that you use to log into the
> system translates it into something visual is another matter. If you
> want to always use this setting but you don't want to have to hit ^A-G
> every time you start screen, put this in a file named ~/.screenrc:
> 
> vbell off
> 
> And you'll never see that annoying visual bell ever again.

And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ?
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inetd vs standalone daemon

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is inetd a daemon that start other daemons ?
Is sql and apache a standalone daemon ?
Can i delete inetd ?
I vote we get rid of inetd :)
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:28:29 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On 2005-03-27, Paul Waring scribbled these
> curious markings:
> > I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
> > get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
> > come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
> > look into/activate this feature.
> 
> Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
> *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
> usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
> terminal bell.

so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ?
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:45:01 +0100, Paul Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:56:50 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of
> >
> > me 19:10# bla bla
> > you 19:10# bla bla
> >
> > no menus or borders
> 
> I don't know what you mean by no menus or borders, but irssi is pretty
> stripped down and can be run from the console:
> 
> http://www.irssi.org/
> 
> I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
> get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
> come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
> look into/activate this feature.

thx irssi and bitlbee is just what i needed to cover everything :)
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:56:50 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of
> 
> me 19:10# bla bla
> you 19:10# bla bla
> 
> no menus or borders
> 

oh and some kind of warning thingie that tels you if somebody sends
something. A beep for example that you can turn on and off ?
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which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of 

me 19:10# bla bla
you 19:10# bla bla

no menus or borders
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:59:18 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dont have colors :(
> How do you turn off the tab beep ?
> 
> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $
> #
> # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell
> #
> # see also csh(1), environ(7).
> #
> 
> alias h history 25
> alias j jobs -l
> alias lals -a
> alias lfls -FA
> alias llls -lA
> 
> # A righteous umask
> umask 22
> 
> set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin
> /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin)
> 
> setenv  EDITOR  joe
> setenv  PAGER   more
> setenv  BLOCKSIZE   K
> setenv  CLICOLOR_FORCE  1
> 
> if ($?prompt) then
> # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
> # set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# "
> set prompt = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# "
> set autolist = ambigous
> set filec
> set history = 100
> set savehist = 100
> set mail = (/var/mail/$USER)
> if ( $?tcsh ) then
> bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word
> bindkey -k up history-search-backward
> bindkey -k down history-search-forward
> endif
> endif
> 

I did CLICOLOR true and now i have colors :)

Still making beep noises doh how do you turn them of ?
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
I dont have colors :(
How do you turn off the tab beep ?

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $
# 
# .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell
# 
# see also csh(1), environ(7).
#

alias h history 25
alias j jobs -l
alias lals -a 
alias lfls -FA
alias llls -lA

# A righteous umask
umask 22

set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin
/usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin)

setenv  EDITOR  joe 
setenv  PAGER   more
setenv  BLOCKSIZE   K
setenv  CLICOLOR_FORCE  1

if ($?prompt) then
# An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
# set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# "
set prompt = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# "
set autolist = ambigous
set filec
set history = 100 
set savehist = 100
set mail = (/var/mail/$USER)
if ( $?tcsh ) then
bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word
bindkey -k up history-search-backward 
bindkey -k down history-search-forward
endif
endif
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:45 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is .profile read by every shell ?
> 
> No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and
> the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad,
> IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein
> I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file
> (depending upon what you've placed in it).
>

I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that
shows every command or file :)

Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ?
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is .profile read by every shell ?
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
Is .profile read by every shell ?
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:11 +0100, Erik Trulsson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:55:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > > > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but
> > > > nothing happens ?
> > >
> > > Why should anything happen?  What did you expect to happen?
> >
> > This :)
> >
> > FX-53# cat .cshrc
> 
> [snip]
> 
> That was not decription of anything happening. It was just the contents
> of a file.  If you meant that you expected that file to be read when
> you started a shell, and that you did start such a shell, then you
> should say so.
> 
> 
> >
> > So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh
> > shell.
> 
> Historical reasons mainly.
> 
> > What brings me to the following question , What is the best
> > shell to use :)
> 
> Whichever one you prefer is obviously the best one for you.
> Personally I prefer zsh.  Other people have other preferences.
> 

Whats the difference between csh ans sh ?
Why do you like zsh ?

Cant be that much difference right ? PS wich shell gives you a command
over view when you double tab like on a linux box ?
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Re: .cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
> > I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but
> > nothing happens ?
> 
> Why should anything happen?  What did you expect to happen?

This :)

FX-53# cat .cshrc
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $
#
# .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell
#
# see also csh(1), environ(7).
#

alias h history 25
alias j jobs -l
alias lals -a
alias lfls -FA
alias llls -lA

# A righteous umask
umask 22

set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin
/usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin)

setenv  EDITOR  joe
setenv  PAGER   more
setenv  BLOCKSIZE   K

if ($?prompt) then
# An interactive shell -- set some stuff up
set prompt = "`/bin/hostname -s`# "
set filec
set history = 100
set savehist = 100
set mail = (/var/mail/$USER)
if ( $?tcsh ) then
bindkey "^W" backward-delete-word
bindkey -k up history-search-backward
bindkey -k down history-search-forward
endif
endif
FX-53# 

So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh
shell. What brings me to the following question , What is the best
shell to use :)
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.cshrc

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
This is the shell config file right ?
I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but
nothing happens ?

FX-53# pw user show gert
gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh

FX-53# pwd
/usr/home/gert

FX-53# ls -all
total 609272
drwxr-xr-x  3 gert  wheel512 Mar 26 00:18 .
drwxr-xr--  3 root  wheel512 Mar 19 22:44 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 gert  wheel802 Mar 25 13:12 .cshrc
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Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:39:42 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +, Paul Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style
> > > shell chat ?
> >
> > I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee:
> >
> > http://www.bitlbee.org/
> >
> 
> looks promising :) Do we have a port on that ?
> 
yep :) 

/usr/ports/irc/bitlbee
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Re: irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:56:21 +, Paul Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:21:17 +0100, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style
> > shell chat ?
> 
> I've not used it myself, but several people I know swear by BitlBee:
> 
> http://www.bitlbee.org/
> 

looks promising :) Do we have a port on that ?
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Re: looking for a shell editor

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:44:54 -0600, Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the last episode (Mar 25), Gert Cuykens said:
> > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and
> > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line
> >
> > byte 844   ing ATI chips
> > byte 865
> > byte 866   R100Radeon 7200
> >
> > how do you get rit of byte...
> 
> That's actually your pager doing that.  Joe's "terminal emulator" when
> in shell mode is exceedingly simple, only understanding newline and
> backspace.  You can run "man radeon | cat" to avoid going through any
> pagers, and just use pgup/down to page through the text from within
> joe.
> 

Alrigdy that defenatly works :) thx
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irc msn yahoo shell chat

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
Anything better then centericq ? I would like a very simple IRC style
shell chat ?
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Re: looking for a shell editor

2005-03-25 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:21:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:17:54 +0100
> Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > When you open a shell window in joe and do for example man radeon and
> > push enter to scroll down it puts byte... before each line
> >
> > byte 844   ing ATI chips
> 
> in joe you can do a search (^K^F) and then choose (R)eplace, fill in
> "byte" and replacing it by a space is possible, then choose "all"
> 

Can you configure joe it doesnt put byte  when you scroll ?
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