Re: FS of choice for max random iops ( Maildir )
On 16.09.2011 15:57, free...@top-consulting.net wrote: Quoting Terje Elde te...@elde.net: On 16. sep. 2011, at 12:31, free...@top-consulting.net wrote: Right now I defined an entire array of 8TB ( all 16 disks ) separated in two pieces. 50 GB for FreeBSD to boot and the rest available to configure as storage. ZFS will want to write to it's ZIL (zfs intent log) before writing to the final location of the data. Even if you're not waiting for the ZIL-write to disk (because of the controller ram), those writes will probably make it through to disk. That gives you twice as many writes to disk, and a lot more seek. If you want to take zfs for a proper spin, I'd like to sugget adding two small SSDs to the setup, mirrored by zfs. You can use those both for the ZIL, and also as cache, for the array. That's a fairly small investment these days, and I would be surprised if it didn't significantly improve performance, both for your benchmark, and real load. Note: you might be in trouble if you loose your ZIL, thus the doubling up. I *think* you can SSD a cache without risking dataloss, but don't take my word for it. Terje I know it's usually a big no-no but since I have the battery backed-up write cache from the raid card, can't I just disable the ZIL entirely ? No. However, you could allow the ZIL to be written to a logical disk with the battery-backed cache. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: legal notices at the end of emails
On 27.07.2011 13:01, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 7/27/11 5:11 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com wrote: A heads up about your footer: This email goes onto a mailing list that is available via an online archive... your terms are violated just by sending an email to this mailing list. Not necessarily. It says [emphasis added]: The contents of this eMail ... should not be disclosed to, ... anyone _other than the intended addressee(s)_ ... Any _unauthorized_ review ... is strictly prohibited ... I don't see a problem provided the archived mailing list is considered to be among the intended addressee(s) and the sender is considered, by the act of sending it to an archived list, to have authorized the archiving (and implicitly any subsequent use of the archive). All the same, any of you guys ever take this kind of notice seriously ? I mean, really ? See, you've actually read the e-mail prior to reading (and thus accepting or refusing) the legal notice. It's like me sending you an e-mail, with a footer saying By reading this e-mail you hereby forfeit all of your fortune, properties and claims in favor of Pwnd LTD, who shall be the sole and universal beneficiary, and has just done you good.. Just because they appear in an e-mail and you've read that e-mail doesn't mean you've acknowledged said terms, let alone accepted them. Exactly. You did not solicit an agreement with the sender before the agreement appeared, and since it required no active part on your half, it is non-binding. I for one, on principle, decline to abide by such terms, which may in no case be enforced on me, seeing I never accepted them in the first place. I think the reasoning is the legal principle of whatever people think we can get away with, because we have a lawyer so slippery PTFT manufacturers are suing us for patent violations One would have to get my consent to abide by their legal notice THEN send me the actual contents. Now, that would work. Then again, on principle I would decline said terms so they couldn't send me whatever they wanted... Those e-mail-footers of legalese-sounding mumbo-jumbo threatening voodoo-action against you and anybody standing next to you, should you not be the sole designated, implied or expressed, recipient of that e-mail, are _LESS_ binding than shrinkwrap EULAs, and has less actual legal content than the gold-content of seawater. They add the footers to sound important. It's a mild case of narcissism. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
On 17.07.2011 13:10, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/11/07/16/0020243/Lennart-Poettering-BSD-Isnt-Relevant-Anymore Interestingly enough, a great deal of it is true. It might be interesting to know how others feel about it. Obviously, asking that question on this forum is like playing against a stacked deck; however, it still might prove interesting. Given that most of his creations are half-done and half-working, and how his intentions seems to Applify Linux into an iToy-lookalike-OS, I consider his opinions ... well ... let's just say I'm pretty sure he's afraid of direct sunlight. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OCI support in PHP is dead
On 14.07.2011 11:43, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 14/07/2011 07:16, Victor Sudakov wrote: The databases/php5-oci8 port exists no more, and databases/php52-oci8 is marked as vulnerable. Oracle 8 is pretty obsolete now. Now, the only options for getting more up to date support are -- persuading Oracle to release eg. an Oracle Instant Client package for FreeBSD -- somehow being able to use the Linux client software under emulation. I've no idea what Oracle's response to the first option would be, but I suspect their response might well be that they won't get enough return to justify the cost of producing a FreeBSD native client. I suspect getting oracle to create such a client would cost (per user) about half a cent less than replacing the oracle DB would. They're (in)famous for such calculations. The second option looks pretty difficult to me -- making a PHP shared object that links to a Linux shlib but that is itself linked into various PHP applications. This one might be a bit cheaper. The future looks Postgresql shaped to me. Or any other non-yacht-sponsoring DB. //Svein p.s. I've had the pleasure of having dealt with Oracle on several occasions. -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On 16.06.2011 08:28, Gary Kline wrote:
we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of
my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working
FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was
using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.
is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the
members of this org would go for?
I'm very happy with my Xerox Phaser 6180 (color), but I've also used the
Phaser 3250. Both handle postscript + lpr just fine (and most other
standards), and priced affordable.
//Svein
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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Re: (no subject)
On 10.03.2011 18:38, 6412037...@email.uscc.net wrote: Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? No. OpenBSD uses the OpenBSD kernel. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: HAL must die!
On 08.03.2011 04:36, Ivan Voras wrote:
On 7 March 2011 19:44, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote:
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote:
On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote:
Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off
in
ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global
default?
Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without
having a configuration switch?
Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL?
It breaks my mouse and keyboard. I assume it would break other stuff if I
had esoteric devices.
with HAL = nothing works
without HAL = everything works
Interesting, I had 0 problems with HAL ever since it was made.
But he does raise a valid problem (if more than zero users, etc). We
(I include fellow FreeBSD users, but also OSX and Linux users) do lack a
decent cross-platform device manager stack, with uniform device name
enumeration. DevFS (and its peers in Linux) does give us a start, but
not enough to build a system on. However, I suspect that getting this to
be truly cross-platform would take a known name in BSD-land,
OpenIndiana/Illumos and Cupertino agreeing with RMS that making this
worth would be a nice summer-of-code project. Perhaps AutoDevFS
mounted on /autodev (names being picked from empty air with only
coffee-fumes). Such a framework would allow drivers to attach using
pipes, and thus allow (for instance) usb-upses to have python (or lua,
or insert-name-of-interpreted-language-here) drivers, etc. our world
(unix-like world) hasn't had a truly common such stack since Bell Labs...
It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which
handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc.
I'm not running a cross-platform. I'm running FreeBSD. There were native
FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL.
Good luck with running your FreeBSD with FreeBSD-only applications :)
I'm less of an OS cleric. I run windows, freebsd, openindiana, irix (my
old indy still works), and insertdeityknowswhat. Not because I like
being confused, but because I chose tools for the task at hand, not
tasks from what my (least) favourite os can('t) do. I still want
something that works, and if it brings a decent standard into the loop,
it will make me sleep a little better. Getting something to REPLACE HAL
with, something that actually works, would provide me with more rest.
//Svein
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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Re: FreeBSD and SSD drives
On 13.02.2011 19:50, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote: Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from people with first-hand experience in running such setup. - Max Agreed. I posted my short experience of using an SSD as a workstation drive and I'd be interested in hearing the experience of any other users. Problems? Praise? Let's hear it. I have two personal SSD's, one an older PATA model in my laptop and an X-25 serving as a ZIL. I have had a great experience with them, but I know the Intel doesn't properly obey cache flush requests even with updated firmware so I guess that would be my biggest problem with them. I'm running two X25-m G2s myself. One in my laptop, the other in my workstation (as systems and software drives, I used spinning metal for raw storage in both). Nothing but praise from me. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: vm ware
On 19.01.2011 09:41, rafay awan wrote: Hi, I want to inquire if its possible to install freeBSD on vm ware? is there any live cd iso available? I suspect you are talking about VMWare ESXi (the hypervisor). If so, I'm running a dozen or so FreeBSD VMs here. Absolutely un-problematic. If you're talking about vmware workstation (or fusion), I know several people who are running freebsd on those, with no real problems. As for livecd, follow the links on freebsd.org for downloads. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full
On 06.01.2011 15:19, c0re wrote: why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? This may release your unused filehandles. As I said I've restarted whole server, so nothing there to release at all. Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. Reboot into single user mode, and check with du -hs /* before the system mounts other FS'es than / //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spam with fake address from the list?
On 16.12.2010 19:56, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2010-12-16 12:40, Michelle Konzack: Hello *, does someone get this kind of spam too? No, nothing from the ip-range 69.170.128.0/24 is getting thru. I actually have a very specific route, just for them, in my border gateway: ip route 64.38.11.26 255.255.255.255 Null0 Let's just say that I have ... views on incurable spammers. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On 24.11.2010 02:43, Gary Kline wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=proddescmaincat_no=388prod_no=1943 //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On 13.11.2010 15:59, Mario Lobo wrote: On Friday 12 November 2010 23:27:42 Mubeesh ali wrote: i guess it is high time this list bans the word devil in subject ;-) Let's hack the term and use lucifer instead! Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the FAQ or the resources for newbies on the website? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On 13.11.2010 21:29, Robert Bonomi wrote: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 01:18:03 +0100 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot? On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:57:46 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote: Must we continue to beat this already dead horse? Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate. Why vs? It's and. So let's have the vs vs and debate. And as we are already on-topic, let's discuss which logical operator is the best, maybe we find an alternative to vs or and... or... yes, what about or? :-) or? NOT!! grin XOR //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: You complain about my exceeded question but got an outstanding volume of answers!!! Why?
On 12.11.2010 13:24, José Silveira wrote: You guys complain cause I asked why do use a demon as a mascot of freeeBSD. Some says... oh no this crap again, others desrespected me but what is incredible is that even a simple question like I did caused so many rage and movement of answers!!! I think this theme still alived... I got thousands of answers! Just one with apropriate contents. The rest was a crap. You can drown in this crap that is freeBSD!!! I suggest using sunlight as detergent for this thread. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Per core frequency control
On 09.11.2010 11:56, David Naylor wrote: Hi, I was reading through cpufreq(4) and in the bugs section it mentions that per core (or CPU) frequency control is not supported. That all cores/CPUs have to be at the same speed. What is the reason for that? Is it an infrastructure problem with FreeBSD or has it just not been implemented? And how will the recent work on event timers (and a tickless kernel) impact on this problem? You did read the symmetric part of symmetric multi processor didn't you? It's a limitation of the technology. One clock. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: zfs performance issues with iscsi (istgt)
On 08.11.2010 09:13, DJ wrote: After scratching my head for a few weeks, I've decided to ask for some help. First, I've got two machines connected by gigabit ethernet, network performance is not a problem as I am able to substantially saturate the wire when not using iscsi [say iperf] or ftp. Both systems are 8.1-RELENG. They are both multi-core, 8G of RAM. Symptoms: When doing writes (size relatively independent) from a client to a server via iSCSI I seem to be hitting a wall between 18-26MB/s of write. This can be repeated continuously whether doing a newfs on a 2TB iscsi volume or doing a dd from /dev/zero to the iscsi target. I haven't compared read performance. What originally put me on to this was watching the newfs *fly* across the screen, and then hang for several seconds, and then *fly* again, and then pause. I'll snip down this mail a little bit to ask some control questions (having recently had quite a wrestle with iSCSI myself). -Is jumbo frames involved? (and enabled on the initiator, all switches in between, and the target) -What's the number of PPS (some switches have PPS issues, which becomes painfully relevant for small block IO)? (I got rid of most of my problems when I replaced the Netgear GS724Tv3 switch with a Cisco SG-300) -Are you running digests? -Do you have TSO/TSOv2 enabled at the endpoints? -Does top -HSC reveal anything? -Does systat -vmstat 1 reveal anything? -What's the ICMP (ping) roundtrip times between the initiator and target IPs? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 08.11.2010 16:37, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/08/10 13:52, krad wrote: On 6 November 2010 21:38, Roland Smithrsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 02:30:16PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important data can do without checksuming. I guess that depends on what you're doing with the data and what kind of external tools you have in place to protect/duplicate it in case of a problem. The GEOM_ELI class provides optional authentication/checksumming. See geli(8), especially the -a option. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ersmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) im not sure on whether that you be a viable replacement, as it has to be a fairly good checksum to avoid clashes, whilst also being quick so it doesnt adversly affect disk performance. Also what does it do if it detects the checksum doesnt match etc? Good point. Geli uses a crypto standard hash (HMAC/SHA256 is recommended) as it's all about authentication in the face of potentially malicious attack, and that's fairly expensive. ZFS by default uses the fletcher2 (= fletcher32) hash, which is simple and fast, as it's used to make sure that hardware hasn't accidentally mangled your data. But it's still not capable of true forward-error-correction. If we are to embark upon creating a new solution, using something that is cheap for normal cases but can still be used (albeit more expensively) for error recovery would (imho) be better. Even if that means we get less net storage out of the gross pool (it could perhaps be configurable?) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 08.11.2010 18:47, Arthur Chance wrote:
*snip*
Presuming you're talking about ZFS, the hash isn't intended to correct
hardware errors, it's only there to detect them. Correction comes from
mirroring or the use of RAIDZ{1,2,3}. (I have personal experience of how
well that works, as I had a disk in a RAIDZ array go bad suddenly, and I
didn't lose any data.) Any new solution would almost certainly mimic
ZFS's approach of arranging the data as a Merkel tree, and using
multiple copies or N out of M shares for correction. I'm not sure GEOM's
block orientation fits well with Merkel trees though, although I'd be
happy to be corrected by a GEOM expert.
No, I'm talking about knowing that a file has been corrupted is a little
better than not knowing it has been corrupted. But it still won't help
bring back the file.
And I'm ... all too familiar with redundancy strategies (and backups).
Including their shortcomings. Speaking of which: Has there been any
progress on properly backing up ZFS on FreeBSD yet? (including the metadata)
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Re: ZFS License and Future
On 08.11.2010 21:44, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: But it's still not capable of true forward-error-correction. If we are to embark upon creating a new solution, using something that is cheap for normal cases but can still be used (albeit more expensively) for error recovery would (imho) be better. Even if that means we get less net storage out of the gross pool (it could perhaps be configurable?) I'm not sure what you mean by true forward-error-correction. But if you want to make _really sure_ that a spinning disk hasn't mangled the data you should: Maybe something like Reed-Solomon ECC in different blocks. Should a data block go bad, it could be rebuilt on-the-fly from those ECC blocks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed%E2%80%93Solomon_error_correction http://www.eccpage.com/ Something along those lines was what I had in mind. ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 06.11.2010 17:44, Chris Brennan wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 11:25:13PM -0500, Steven Susbauer wrote: On 11/5/10 4:34 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: Will Oracle start using patent suits to try to stop people who aren't paying for ZFS or who are using it on platforms other than Solaris from using it? Whether you think concerns like these will prove reasonable in the long run, they make a lot more sense than assuming that Alejandro just wonders if the CDDL is dangerous somehow. I would be surprised. Oracle (real Oracle, not Sun) is still the primary developer of btrfs on Linux. They are pretty much going for feature parity with ZFS and want people to actually use it. If they start suing over ZFS patents which are certainly applicable to btrfs, it will have repercussions on that side. Perhaps. On the other hand, Oracle could offer some kind of patent covenant protecting btrfs while going after a ZFS fork as a way of focing people to migrate from it to btrfs, as a more hostile way of achieving what Microsoft does when it ends support for an older OS to get people to buy the newer Windows release. . . . or maybe Oracle will decide it doesn't need the open source community's help any longer at some future date, and shut down *both* open source filesystem development projects. Oracle is known to be at least intermittently hostile toward open source software, in ways that are sometimes more frightening than Microsoft's hostility. This is scaring people, and I don't blame them. The uncertainty about Oracle's future position on everything it has acquired with Sun is something that will need to be tested and observed to see how it shakes out in the next few years; in the meantime, I do not blame anyone for being cautious about committing to use of open source software under the Oracle umbrella. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Chad, what are these attachments to your e-mail? My client keeps flagging your mail as questionable and I'm sandboxing it to make sure it's nothing bad :D I suppose they are the PGP signature? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 06.11.2010 19:52, krad wrote: On 5 November 2010 19:11, Alejandro Imass aim...@yabarana.com wrote: Hey folks, A while back I started the thread Troubles on SATA drives ZFS. I decided to bring the zpool down check each disk and re-construct the pool. Nevertheless, I was revising one of the ZFS error message links and Oracle made me create a developer id to access the info. This really pissed me off even more than teh Android suit, so it got me thinking... Maybe I should go back to UFS, CCD, GEOM, etc. instead of continuing to support f***ing Oracle. ZFS was honestly very easy and seemed very reliable and fast, but I would like the opinion and position of people here on ZFS before I continue using it. Many thanks, Alejandro Imass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org the main problem is geom and ufs isnt a like for like replacement yet. Good as though geom is it just not as easy as zfs from an adminsistration point of view in my opinion. It may potentinally get a block checksum class but it will be a long time before its like for like. I've had a play around with btrfs, which is supposed to be an opensource equivelent to zfs. It is far from ready yet though. It may mature into a good product in the future, but its a long way off and far from polished (dam horrible from what ive seen so far). Most of its development was backed by oracle though from what i have read, so who knows where that will go now. If oracle want to continue to push linux and it to have a decent fs, it may well just be easier for them to drop the licensing issues with cddl which was preventing zfs from making it into linux. Who knows but for anything in the near to medium future there is nothing to rival zfs on the opensource market. Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important data can do without checksuming. The question I keep asking myself, is what could FreeBSD + DragonFlyBSD do with DragonFly's Hammer. Is there any work in progress porting Hammer to FreeBSD, or is that unlikely for ... personal history reasons? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ZFS License and Future
On 05.11.2010 20:14, Alejandro Imass wrote: Hey folks, A while back I started the thread Troubles on SATA drives ZFS. I decided to bring the zpool down check each disk and re-construct the pool. Nevertheless, I was revising one of the ZFS error message links and Oracle made me create a developer id to access the info. This really pissed me off even more than teh Android suit, so it got me thinking... Maybe I should go back to UFS, CCD, GEOM, etc. instead of continuing to support f***ing Oracle. ZFS was honestly very easy and seemed very reliable and fast, but I would like the opinion and position of people here on ZFS before I continue using it. Well ... CDDL was (iirc) based on the Mozilla Public License. Are you similarly worried about Thunderbird or Firefox? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Greybeards (Re: Netbooks BSD)
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribi?: PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX 780 days :-) I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a PDP-11 around 1982, I think. Gotcha beat :) UNIX V6, PDP-11/34, RK05 disk cartridge, 1975. The whole runtime fit on one RK05. The sources took a second one. I guess I'm just a kid, then, since I wasn't exposed to computers until 6 years later (my excuse was being born in 1975). CP/M-80 and MP/M-80 with intel asm, was where I started my hairpulling... Anybody else got nightmares about 8 inch floppies? ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: fdisk
On 02.10.2010 21:08, Jerry wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 11:36:40 -0700 Robert travelin...@cox.net articulated: I am in deep with the wife. Her computer went belly up. It was running XP pro and I had backups going to a second drive. I can no longer access that drive. If the disk is the problem, I would suggest getting a copy of Spin-Rite http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm and running it at level 6 maximum. It is the best disk recovery program I have come across. +1 to that. I've been using spinrite for more than a decade, and have lost count of the times it has saved data for me (or rather: For people dumping their crashed pc in my lap, since _I_ have _BACKUPS_). When you're done recovering data, you might want to take a look at your backup strategy. Select a new one that doesn't depend on spinning metal just as fragile as the one you're backing up from. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
On 21.09.2010 13:37, Jerry wrote: The bottom line is that installing and running a printer on a Window's machine is usually far easier than on a *nix variation. Even sharing a printer on a network in a Windows environment is simpler. Actually ... no. Unless you are talking about the keep HP happy by purchasing ink every week usb-printers. Personally, for bulk printing, and even more so for intermittent printing (the kind where ink dries up and gets tossed away when you use the printer once every blue moon), most users would save a _LOT_ of money by looking at a laser printer instead. Take a good look at Xerox'es Phaser line (used to be tektronix phaser). They're no longer pawn-your-firstborn expensive, they're reliable, and they basically speak every standard protocol on the market (including both Postscript and PCL). //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: WANTED: Camera Neck Strap (92313)
On 16.09.2010 18:30, Chris Maness wrote: oops. I meant freecycler ;o) sorry guys. Not to worry, I'm sure there are a few hobby photographers on this list as well. ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: fan control
On 27.08.2010 20:52, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Matias wrote: Thanks for replying! I've tried everything you mention here with no success: The BIOS is pretty basic, just allows to select boot order, set the date, and not much more than that. No sysctls also. Some desktop machines have a knob that you can turn which controls the fan speed. In my experience only laptops come with a ACPI thermal subdevice. Then, I guess that you've not used to Asus mainboards? I guess that my only option to check if the hardware has the feature will be to get windows on it and see what happens. Reading the manual is also an option. :-) Have you ever seen a manual for consumer gear that includes the word FreeBSD except (maybe) in the copyright notices? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Parklogic making a mess
On 22.08.2010 00:48, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:35:57 +0200 Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: I think anyone who posts to freebsd-questions is probably getting them. I contacted parklogic and got a response telling me I could use an anti-spam product to avoid getting it. Not quite the response I had hoped for! I got the exact same response, hence my decision that the entire /18 belonging to this non-serious ISP needs null-routing. They are forging from-adresses, and clearly have no intention of fixing their mess, expecting everyone else to run anti-spam products to sort out THEIR problem. I still think the correct response for this is to make sure the freebsd.org servers won't be reaching their net (that will stop the forged messages being triggered by incoming mail), and it just might be that one or more of their customers will be giving this supplier the message they NEED to hear: Not sorting out your broken configuration costs you money. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA
On 18.08.2010 18:20, C. Bergström wrote: Hi Oliver, The problem behind the subject is a little bit frustrating, so I do not know were to start. Yeah it's a pretty big problem, but I can say others are looking at it and taking small steps in the right direction. First, and this hasn't changed since the last 15 years, FreeBSD lack in support of professional Compiler vendors. Pprtland Group offers only Linux compilers, as far as I know Intel does not offer a native FreeBSD 64 Bit compiler. So we are stuck with gcc and gfortran *SNIP* If we see beyond the CUDA part of this question, it should be noted that ATI/AMD has kept to their promise of actually supporting opensource. (see also http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_evergreen_3dnum=1) I must admit not having tested that code myself (my two 5970s sit in a windows box), but projects should maybe consider the ATI/AMD cards. 928GFLOPS double-precision per card (4.64TFLOPS single precision) with proper documentation should at least give a proper start to things... //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA
On 21.08.2010 11:01, C. Bergström wrote: *snip* (Hope I don't come across negative... I'm just trying to give real feedback based on our experience) No coming-across-as-negative interpreted. ;) As I said, my two 5970s sit in a windows box... //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Parklogic making a mess
Anybody else seem to get these header-falsified messages lately: Return-Path: anonym...@dusk.parklogic.com X-Original-To: svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Delivered-To: svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26]) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with SMTP id B9E8E26 for svein-listm...@stillbilde.net; Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:17:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 26077 invoked by uid 511); 21 Aug 2010 14:56:12 - Message-ID: 20100821145612.26076.qm...@dusk.parklogic.com From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: Svein Skogen svein-listm...@stillbilde.net(Listmail account) Subject: Re: FreeBSD, GPGPU and OpenCL/CUDA In-Reply-To: 4c6f84dd.3040...@stillbilde.net References: 4c666786.6000...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de 20100816141324.7de6d...@ukr.net 20100816134713.66411ai1w435q...@webmail.xroff.net 201008161618.35076.pie...@degoeje.nl 2010081617.4a1bb...@ukr.net 20100816145001.ga90...@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk 20100818120455.10870.qm...@dusk.parklogic.com 4c6c085a.2010...@pathscale.com 4c6f84dd.3040...@stillbilde.net Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:56:12 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; boundary=1282402572.8bad8C70.26046; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 htmlbody pDear Sir/Madam,br /br / Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to.br / For more information on our business please click on the following link:br / a href=http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564;Click here for our website/abr / We look forward to your continued business in the future.br /br / Regards,br / Webmasterbr / /p /body/html I suspect the correct way of handling this would be to contact Layered Technologies Ltd and tell them that 64.38.0.0/18 will be null-routed until they have fixed their broken mailserver (if it's falsifying headers, it IS broken), wouldn't it? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 5900 RPM drives
On 14.08.2010 03:52, Ryan Coleman wrote: Can anyone give me any reasons to buy these over 7200RPMs for a RAID? I may need to pinch pennies if I have to finance my next servers out of pocket. Stupid idea, I know, but I really want to know if there's a reason to skimp. They're a little slower, use a whole lot less power (saves pennies per hour), meaning less heat (pennies per hour saved on cooling), less vibrations (increased lifetime, less need to noise-isolate disk setups to avoid vibrations slowing seeks). Unless you _NEED_ the 125mbytes/sec-per-device transfers of the 7200rpm drives (you can live with 100mbytes/sec), then go for the 5900rpm drives. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: test
On 14.08.2010 05:23, PR wrote: epic fail. ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: releases, branches,..
On 12.08.2010 22:46, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: My years of OpenSolaris made me forget the use of releases and branches. I'm not into too much compiling anymore. I want a stable, but also safe server. I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found? What do I need to run if I want the lates and needed security patches? I do not want to update my system (at least as few times as possible) Which brach do I follow? I have the feeling that STABLE is too innovative(?) -RELEASE but keep an eye on the advisories. This comes from someone who's been running RELENG_x for prod setups for more than a decade. //svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: copyright for man pages
On 05.08.2010 13:16, r...@mlg3.com wrote: Hello, Sorry of this is the wrong list but what is the copyright situation for things like man pages? If I want to host a copy of one on the web or something, is there some additional disclaimer I need to add? I may be wrong, but aren't those ... BSD Licensed? ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On 02.07.2010 09:33, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 01/07/2010 22:29:54, Ed Flecko wrote: Henrik, When I FIRST installed 8.0, I did create a separate /home partition. When I installed the kernel and starting running out of space in / , I thought O.K...I'll let FreeBSD make the partition sizes IT wants to and see if I have the same problem, and I did. Apparently, 512M is just, not, quite big enough so I think I'll try 1G to give me plenty of room. Is it time for me to start advocating one big partition again? This may not be the consensus view, but I have found that for a quiet life and general lack of botheration it helps to create *only two* partitions on your hard drive: b: Swap -- usually 2x RAM a: Everything else I usually (today) set up something similar. I sysinstall FreeBSD onto a CF card with the one-big-root method, then create a zpool (on spinning-metal-storage) where I create the usr, tmp, var fs'es, tar|tar the originals over and fix the mountpoint info on the zfs'es. Then I add swap on a zvol (since I don't know how to properly use a kernel dump, I don't need swap to store it). I use this method everywhere except on VMs inside VMWare ESXi. It's been my painful experience that zfs inside vmware machines is a bad idea. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: PDF storage software recommendations?
On 17.06.2010 20:55, Michael W. Lucas wrote: We get orders for services via PDF. We need to keep them, and call them up months or years later. We'd need to find things like all of the PDFs for Customer X or all of the PDFs for circuit ID such-and-such. Surely other people have had this problem, for generic documents/files if not PDFs in particular... Sounds pretty much like a database and a filestore. Database to store all the metadata, with pointers to some machine-readable filenames for the filestore. I seem to remember that one of my previous employers hired some code-for-hire guys from UK setting that up (and alas bringing Oracle salespeople inside the premises. I swear, those guys are harder to remove than cockroaches...), but I'm sure some of the more SQL-friendly guys than me could codify something for Postgres and give it a nice frontend. ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: * wildcard in.sh script
On 15.06.2010 10:25, Aiza wrote: I have a directory with files in it. The first 3 letters of the file names is the group prefix. I'm trying to write a script to accept the 3 letter of the group followed by a * to mean its a prefix lookup. But when I run it I get a message NO match that is not issued by the script. Its like * is not allowed as input. Looking for sample .sh code for handling this standard type of lookup or some online tutorial that has sample code for bourne shell programming. . Just for the fun of it. Try escaping the asterisk (\*) and see if that works? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Midphase Hosting
On 10.06.2010 18:12, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, but it might be possible. There is a similar technique (whose name I have temporarily forgotten) that some mailing lists use where they tag the envelope sender address with the recipient name in order to identify addresses that are bouncing back the list e-mail. Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. I have employed VERP with mailing lists that I controlled. I never noticed any adverse effects. I know of several technical lists like Dovecot that employ it. Obviously, they find it useful. Wouldn't adding an explicit route (to null) for the ip range employed by mpcustomer.com for the poor FreeBSD server do the trick? It would build up queue for a while, then the probe message wouldn't get there, then the problem would simply vanish. ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD router - large scale
On 27.05.2010 17:00, Kevin Wilcox wrote: Hello everyone. We're in the very early stages of considering [Free|Open]BSD on commodity hardware to handle NAT *and* firewall duties for (what I consider to be) a sizable deployment. Overall bandwidth is low, only a gigabit connection, but we handle approximately fifteen thousand devices. DHCP and DNS would be passed through to other servers, this hardware would only be responsible for address translation and pf. I've done this on a very, very small scale (small/home office, small business) but I'm curious how many other folks are doing it on this scale, the hardware they are running on and any gotchas they may have faced. Does pf on FreeBSD take advantage of multiple cores/SMP? Is it preferable, as with OpenBSD, to go for a very stout processor without much consideration to cores? Would freebsd-net@ be a better place to ask this? I'm getting ready to start digging in to memory and other resources needed based on available documentation but real-world usage is much preferred to my academic assessment. Actually, I'd find an answer from the FreeBSD Networking gurus useful as well. My trusted Cisco 3640 is getting old (had it's ten-years-of-service birthday a little while ago), so I guess I must be prepared to replace it with something new. Preferrably something that can do proper NAT port mapping to the inside servers in an RFC1918-adressed DMZ, proper NAT mapping for the client net, incoming VPDN (virtual private dialin network, such as PPTP+MPE and L2TP+IPSEC tunelling), sane IDS in the border-gateway, GRE or IPinIP tunelling with crypto for remote-sites, etc If somebody has a good starting-point for documentation on these features, I'm more than willing to do a procject on it to create a mini-howto/handbook-section on setting up FreeBSD as your border gateway, provided I have someone to ask when the documentation is ... flaky. ;) It would be interesting to see what kind of performance modern hardware could get, compared to dedicated hardware a decade old. :) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD router - large scale
On 28.05.2010 13:38, Bruce Cran wrote: *snip!* This is possibly the wrong place to be saying this, but isn't OpenBSD usually recommended for routers? I believe the version of pf, for example, is normally kept more up-to-date than than in FreeBSD. The major downside I know of is that it's not nearly as user-friendly; for example my recollection of its installer is that you have to input sector offsets manually in the partition editor! My main reasoning for wanting this done on FreeBSD i don't introduce yet another OS into the equation, there is sufficient confusion as there is ;) //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
On 04.04.2010 11:22, Stacey Roberts wrote: The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it supports windows 7. Or, am I missing something? BCD was the boot mechanism introduced with Vista and Server 2008, and continued in Windows 7 (actually 6.1) and Server 2008r2. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RELENG_8 and clang
What is the current status of getting FreeBSD and clang to play nice with eachother? Does world and kernel build? How far along is the project to replace GCC in the base system? //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Enough Is Enough
On 27.03.2010 20:10, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 01:28:26PM -0500, Programmer In Training wrote: On 03/27/10 13:06, Tijl Coosemans wrote: snip In /usr/ports/UPDATING look for the 20100205 entry for users of Qt 3 and KDE 3. Pointless in as far as that does not address the underlying problem of rebuilding EVERYTHING that needs to link against the jpeg library. GIMP and gegl failed because a dependency for it is linked against jpeg-7 and not jpeg-8. If I cannot basically reinstall the entire system via portupgrade -a I'm reduced to fixing the problem ad-hoc and that is unacceptable because eventually I'll have to deal with programs that link to whatever just got rebuilt. In essence, this is a problem that is not easily solved just by reading /usr/ports/UPDATING for Qt because it involves more than Qt (by the way, thanks for the hat tip on Qt, but it's not high on my priority list for being fixed right now, GIMP, Scribus and possibly a few other apps that I'm currently unaware of there being an issue with ARE). So don't use portupgrade if doesn't do what is needed. The simple solution is to *first* deinstall *all* ports (or at least all ports that depend, directly or indirectly, on jpeg in this case) and then reinstall them all. This might require a bit more manual intervention than using portupgrade would have, but on the other hand it is almost guaranteed to work correctly every time. The problems you are running into is essentially due to trying to build updated binaries while still having old binaries installed (and having this trigger bugs in the build mechanism of various ports.) If you first remove all the old binaries and then build new ones you avoid many potential problems. portupgrade -afr jpeg-8 there, done. //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Creating multiple directories simultaneously
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On 26.03.2010 12:12, Jerry wrote:
I could have sworn that I saw a method of creating several directories,
actually a parent direct and several sub-directories simultaneously;
however, I cannot fine the documentation any longer.
Assume I want to create a directory: FOO with three directories under
it, foo-1, foo-2 and foo-3. I tried: mkdir -p foo {foo-1, foo-2, foo-3}
and several other variants and they all failed. I could easily write a
simple script to accomplish it; however, I thought I could do it
directly from the command line.
did you try mkdir -p dirtest/dir1 dirtest/dir2 dirtest/dir3 ?
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Re: Support for Dell PERC H700 RAID controller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26.03.2010 15:00, Steve Polyack wrote: On 03/26/10 09:00, Peter Steele wrote: Does FreeBSD 8 support the Dell H700 RAID controller? We've been using a 3Ware controller but may need to switch to this controller. What we'd like to have is a command line interface similar to the tw_cli command so we can create RAID sets on a booted system instead of doing it in the BIOS. I'm not sure about the H700, but for the PERC5 and PERC6 (previous models...) you can use mfiutil(8) to manage the adapter and create/configure/destroy RAID sets on FreeBSD 8. It's actually pretty nice in comparison to MegaCLI - the LSI provided management utility. The only thing mfiutil isn't in all ways superior to both the webbios and megacli for, is when setting up cache info. It lacks the I know what I'm doing, allow me to set writeback for this array even if you don't find a battery for the cache! as an option. (useful for things like /tmp) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuswHUACgkQODUnwSLUlKSDJwCeJeWzr7Zx5Uaje51N7Qwp8N8j BtEAn2os/uG3H5mCjYuIZAk7g/pfVvPX =xH6W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Support for Dell PERC H700 RAID controller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26.03.2010 17:22, Peter Steele wrote: I see that these PERC controllers are all SAS instead of SATA. What kind of cost differential is there between SAS and SATA disks? If it's a megaraid sas controller, you can still use SATA disks. I know I do. (8x 1T5 barracudas in raid 50 on an 8308) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkus35kACgkQODUnwSLUlKTdygCghb1VGILXxd7K3A4AQG2j12Qv IZYAn3btxeYUXBpAei7kOBegCCpLAkkY =+oJ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hardware RAID controller questions - 3Ware vs RocketRaid
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18.03.2010 10:35, Andy Wodfer wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Law m...@webcontracts.co.ukwrote: Is ZFS not an option? I'm afraid ZFS is not an option for this customer. I use ZFS on other system and it works great, but here the requirement is RAID5, hotswap, hotspare and so on. You should consider the LSI Megaraid SAS as well. The aging 8308elp, performs quite nicely with decent disks. Got one here (at home) handling 8 1T5 Barracudas in RAID50 (with coldspares), that routinely handles 400+mbytes/sec io, even in windows. It's been running in FreeBSD as well, but until I can figure out how to get reliable backups (the MPT issue shared with OpenSolaris) I'm stuck with windows on the box. FreeBSD's mfiutil works works splendidly with the controller allowing you to handle things like patrol-reads from an SSH session without much trouble. As a SAS-controller, it eats both SAS and SATA disks, and plain and simple just works. //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuh9YAACgkQODUnwSLUlKTZiwCeODrGVYneWFn9nKZDUJ5jhOdt 3boAoIM/HrcfpzKXNOsPic+QQ4ooaL5d =Yya0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which version of FreeBSD is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.03.2010 18:03, Bas v.d. Wiel wrote: On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:36:38 +0100, Mikolaj Rydzewski m...@ceti.pl wrote: Антон Клесс wrote: That is what I suspected for. What is the most safe way to upgrade it, remembering that this is production server and I have to keep it working properly? 6.2-RC1 - 6.2 RELEASE - 7.2 RELEASE - 8.0 RELEASE, or somehow in this style? If it works, do not fix it! I beg to differ: having a release candidate running in production should never happen so this situation has been sort of broken from the start. Luckily FreeBSD is a rock solid OS! Actually, I'm facing exactly the same problem now: I want to upgrade 6.2-RELEASE to something (8.0?) newer. Since I don't have spare machine for tests, I'm playing now with VirtualBox (hosted on Linux). I'd like to test upgrade using cvsup/buildworld. After I will success on virtualbox I'll perform the same path on real machine. Making an image backup of the machine's disk before you start should give you a decent rollback scenario in case things go badly. Wouldn't a RELENG_6 (i.e. 6-Stable) from the correct date actually be 6.2-RC1? I'd say that unless the box has stability issues, or there are actual security problems (is this box available from the internet?), the old if it ain't broken ... mantra should apply... //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuhDT4ACgkQODUnwSLUlKSHFwCfQRE8aZUhAPf4DhAaPnu4YCtt zZgAn2OuV7AFosp5gvCMZmy2EoAxfkb8 =73uM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12.03.2010 15:20, Svein Skogen wrote: I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely with my hardware. Devices are: HP Ultrium 3-SCSI Q25W at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0) HP 1x8 G2 AUTOLDR 2.80 at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0) connected via: mpt0: LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4f,0xfe4e-0xfe4e irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 mpt0: [ITHREAD] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0 os and number in question is: FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010 sv...@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A). amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then simple silence both on sa0 and console) Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader? //Svein I'm finally starting to make sense of what I'm seeing (hence the crossposting) Seems I've stumbled onto some strange incompatibility between my SAS controller (LSI 3801E), Tape-library, and FreeBSD+Solaris. The behavior I'm seeing is consistent with this solaris bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775 but luckily (?) for me, my disks are on an MFI controller. I'm seeing the exact same behavior in both FreeBSD and OpenSolaris 133 and 134. Linux and Windows installs on the box (this box is currently being set up, so I'm rather liberated from reinstall-concerns) seems unaffected, atleast the HP Software doesn't fail the way tar/dump/dd/amanda/bacula/whatnot does at random intervals. The errors only occur when the device I'm reading/writing from is 100% laoded (reading or writing 56mb/sec + compression), which when fed from a raid capable of more than 6 times that is quite likely to happen during backups. The Solaris bug seems to be around MSI handling, but there are several reports over there about this error occuring even with MSI disabled. Right now I'm dumbstruck about this, and might install Linux just to get backups up and running this year, because I'm too tired of this entire process, but I'd REALLY rather run FreeBSD or OpenSolaris. This is based on a personal preference and nothing else, but if anybody has some blinding insights on how to get this working, I'm open for suggestions. //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkubtf8ACgkQODUnwSLUlKTfGgCgndwhQdAjFjlUp2jCh5POr0jp 0rYAoKUsR2AjzlBCM/eqMfUjGfKtWXof =2lnD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm having trouble getting Amanda (2.6.1p2 from ports) to play nicely with my hardware. Devices are: HP Ultrium 3-SCSI Q25W at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (sa0,pass0) HP 1x8 G2 AUTOLDR 2.80 at scbus0 target 1 lun 1 (pass1,ch0) connected via: mpt0: LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xfe4fc000-0xfe4f,0xfe4e-0xfe4e irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 mpt0: [ITHREAD] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.20.0 os and number in question is: FreeBSD storage.stillbilde.net 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 9 07:01:59 UTC 2010 sv...@storage.stillbilde.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Tapes are regular LTO-3 (HP C7973A). amtapetype simply hangs (after writing 3-4 tps for 5 seconds, then simple silence both on sa0 and console) Has anybody run into this problem with FreeBSD8+mpt+autoloader? //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuaTZ0ACgkQSBMQn1jNM7ZdZACeI/zbjjsqOCu/12YCBFvbsC9W WXQAnRECv0f2CRDpPkXDBU4q/6Q3np2k =rJL9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Amanda, FreeBSD8, amtype, hairpulling, etc.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12.03.2010 17:07, Dennis Glatting wrote: I have had problems with tapes under FreeBSD -- and other operating systems. :) My suggestion is to make sure you are running a patched kernel (i.e., RELENG_8) and to make sure there are no interface problems. Both of these areas have caused me much pain. RELENG_8: Check. Other operating systems:Check. (gives another sort of grief in OpenSolaris, but just as flaky) Works in Windoes: Check (This is the annoying part) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuag78ACgkQSBMQn1jNM7YsdACgs+xed2ba7iOpcMyniXxp/giQ +LoAoPswA0Xe3KAMj196acNK4IUFzlV8 =Zode -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: locale settings and displaying file names in multiple languages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03.03.2010 10:24, Dan Naumov wrote: Hello I have a 8.0/amd64 system serving a few Samba shares. Windows clients write files to some of these shares using multiple languages: english, finnish and russian. When accessed from any given Windows client, the file and directory names all look correct. However when accessing these same files locally, the file- and directory names that utilize russian and finnish languages are full of question marks, like this for russian: -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody11M Feb 21 2008 ?? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 9.2M Feb 21 2008 ??-?? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 6.3M Feb 21 2008 ?? ... -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.6M Feb 21 2008 -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.1M Feb 21 2008 ?? -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 7.7M Feb 21 2008 ?? and like this for finnish: drwxr-xr-x2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Hoitovirhe drwxr-xr-x2 nobody nobody7 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Niuva 20 drwxr-xr-x2 nobody nobody 13 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - Pirun Nyrkki drwxr-xr-x2 nobody nobody 12 Mar 2 03:20 Turmion K??til??t - U.S.C.H.! And operating on these files locally is tricky to say the least: for example I cannot do a: cd ?? for obvious reasons, because there is no directory that REALLY has all those question marks. However, I am still able to browse and operate on these files using Midnight Commander, somehow it actually works. How do I need to set the locale settings on the FreeBSD machine so that all file names are displayed correctly when operated on locally? - Sincerely, Dan Naumov ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org It's actually an illusion. It happens because ls quite rightly refuses to spew characters the terminal capabilities doesn't state that can be displayed, simply because they might send control characters to the terminal that may or may not corrupt the display. If you use completion (f.eks. tab), you'll see a ton of \#0x??? or whatnot being the actual pathname. If you're really intent on displaying the directory, try echo * //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuOLcQACgkQODUnwSLUlKS7ZACgkHbTiMS/Nd3Bvt+9TSwaCt3i xjAAoIA3d9vZg8CnqPTC6R7dWyJ9FtSR =ig8W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backup and FreeBSD/ZFS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.02.2010 10:39, krad wrote: If you combine snapshoting with a redundant array, and maybe a secondary pool that you zfs send your files ystems to (perhaps on a different box) its questionable whether having stuff on tape has any advantage. If you are taking the tapes off site it may be worth it. On a monthly rotation the tapes are placed in a firetolerant safe. Since the most critical thing here is the terabyte (and growing!) of original photographs, I'm not thinking about just day-to-day diskfailure or pebcaks (proper raid and snapshotting handles that rather well). However snapshotting and raid solutions handles the house being on fire rather poorly, or should we say Data integrity and fires, get along like a house on fire? ;) And I think ... everyone on this list can agree that data not properly backed up, is a fancy way of saying data not yet lost. ;) This is why I'm willing to (and have already) cough up for such solutions as autoloaders for my home storage server, however my last wrestle with ZFS (on freebsd RELENG_7) left me rather less than enthusiastic about the backup options. Someone told me that Amanda should handle this, and I'm looking into it now (especially reading up on what I'd need to do to handle disaster recovery), but other options are welcome as well, including the option of going Solaris (if someone can point me to proper documentation on how to get Solaris to do what I want). The box itself is a C2D E7500 with 8GB ram, Asus P5Q Premium (the deluxe version with fewer NICs is on the BigAdmin HCL, basically an intel P45 chipset with sufficient number of pci-express slots, and four Marvell Yukon gigabit nics with Marvell Alaska PHY), backed by LSI SAS-MPT for the autoloader and SAS-MFI for the disks, and will handle SMB/CIFS, NFS, and iSCSI services (and the backups of that data). Nothing fancy here, meaning it should hardwarewise be no biggie to get it up and running in FreeBSD, Solaris (or leave it on Windows Storage server if that's the best solution, even if that means the iSCSI-target-service has ... less than stellar performance). So, I'm basically looking for pointers on what solutions to consider, not looking for a pre-cooked solution. I have sufficient external diskspace (still with redundancy) to handle the move-to-new-os-and-fs issue... Thanks again for taking the time to help me out here. ;) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktq6TwACgkQODUnwSLUlKQYzgCffVUn25D1CTJsg9SfVBCJNwvO xKkAn17MEHNQUdFTf7b19U3rTd/ASduU =2bla -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backup and FreeBSD/ZFS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.02.2010 17:57, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 04/02/2010 15:35, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) wrote: On a monthly rotation the tapes are placed in a firetolerant safe. Since the most critical thing here is the terabyte (and growing!) of original photographs, I'm not thinking about just day-to-day diskfailure or pebcaks (proper raid and snapshotting handles that rather well). However snapshotting and raid solutions handles the house being on fire rather poorly, or should we say Data integrity and fires, get along like a house on fire? ;) fire tolerant? That doesn't sound amazingly effective to me. Would it stand up to temperatures in excess of 600degC for more than about 20 minutes? That's going to be fairly typical in a house fire... Well, this one is the kind placed within the concrete of our cellar (this is a home solution, not an industry one). But that area isn't suitable for the servers for other reasons. The cellar is within the bedrock of the area (the house foundation is directly on bedrock, and the cellar area has been blasted out from the bedrock), so discounting the plane-crash-into-building scenario, it's rather safe for our use (and the plane-crash scenario would quite likely invalidate me along with the backup, and so the need for a restore wouldn't be that critical) A safe like that is a good idea for local storage of backup media while it waits to go into the tape library or off-site. It's a bad idea for storing your entire archive. *snip* Tape libraries are horribly expensive since they're not mass market items. They are also intrinsically prone to breaking down or failing to work quite as well as the salesman implied. They're the only viable solution when your storage volumes get really huge, but what is considered huge nowadays is rather more than terabyte scale. If you can get away with just a single tape drive you'll save yourself a lot of money. Alas, a full backup of the current disk setup takes 4 tapes and ... I really don't feel like staying up one entire night per week to swap tapes (both for the backup and the verify). The autoloader I've got now (8 slot, 1 drive, LTO-3, SAS) works fairly well with the currently installed OS (Windows Storage Server 2008), giving about 60MB/Sec sustained transfer rate. LTO4 tapes are rated at 800--1600GB depending on achievable compression, so they might be big enough on their own. As image formats are already internally compressed, I'd expect them to come in at the low end of that, which might be tight. Worth trying out if you can get a drive on evaluation. A standalone LTO-4 might be a good alternative, if I didn't already have the tapeloader. ;) You might want to evaluate getting a bunch of 1TB (or larger) hard dives -- either USB or hot-swap SATA. They don't need to perform particularly well, but they'd have to be rated for a lot of spin-up/spin-down cycles (so something aimed at the mobile PC market). One other thing you should seriously consider is on-line backup. There are quite a lot of providers out there, and they should be at least competitive with running your own dedicated backup system. They also generally have the advantage of being instantly available if you need to recover anything in a hurry. Online-backup-solutions are a no-go for me, alas. Someone told me that Amanda should handle this, and I'm looking into it now (especially reading up on what I'd need to do to handle disaster recovery), but other options are welcome as well, including the option of going Solaris (if someone can point me to proper documentation on how to get Solaris to do what I want). Also checkout Bacula. I've found Bacula quite a lot easier to manage than Amanda, especially with tape libraries. The box itself is a C2D E7500 with 8GB ram, Asus P5Q Premium (the deluxe version with fewer NICs is on the BigAdmin HCL, basically an intel P45 chipset with sufficient number of pci-express slots, and four Marvell Yukon gigabit nics with Marvell Alaska PHY), backed by LSI SAS-MPT for the autoloader and SAS-MFI for the disks, and will handle SMB/CIFS, NFS, and iSCSI services (and the backups of that data). Nothing fancy here, meaning it should hardwarewise be no biggie to get it up and running in FreeBSD, Solaris (or leave it on Windows Storage server if that's the best solution, even if that means the iSCSI-target-service has ... less than stellar performance). So, I'm basically looking for pointers on what solutions to consider, not looking for a pre-cooked solution. I have sufficient external diskspace (still with redundancy) to handle the move-to-new-os-and-fs issue... Thanks again for taking the time to help me out here. ;) Hard to know what to advise OS-wise. FreeBSD will do the job, although I'm not sure the iSCSI-target stuff is the best available. So will Solaris for that matter, although more likely
Backup and FreeBSD/ZFS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm currently considering switching my Backend (Running WSS2008 Enterprise) to FreeBSD RELENG_8+zfs, however my last melee with ZFS and backups to Autoloader (HP 1/8 G2 LTO-3 job) didn't quite turn out in my favour. Seems FreeBSD has a decent backup solution for UFS/2 (dump/restore) but such luxuries where nowhere to be found for ZFS (but the performance was quite good!). So, my question is this: Can someone point me to the proper place to start reading on getting RELENG_8+zfs backed up to tape robotics (or more specifically: LTO-3 with a HP autoloader)? Will going the Opensolaris route be easier? (I had hoped to be able to use net/istgt/ from ports, but I guess I could find a different solution to that problem in Solaris). Any pointers would really help me here. The storage backend will be on MFI arrays (set up with redundant striping + automagic weekly consistency checks of the arrays). //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktpSlIACgkQODUnwSLUlKRvRQCcCKgCzTSCr9PVfyQ9cveGkuUd xTIAn2IWherBzlLTu/02CBLJMo34Ky2m =ruSv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backup and FreeBSD/ZFS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03.02.2010 19:14, LoH wrote: If my memory serves, you're looking at something similar to taking a snapshot and then sending it to the tape device, so zfs send snapshot | (tape device access). This, IIRC, is functionally identical to dump/restore. Except for one smallish detail. Dump handles tape is full, switch to next one in a relatively painless way... Let's just say that ... there's a reason I've invested in an autoloader for my home server (it will, among other things, hold about a terabyte of Nikon .NEF files if that means anything) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktpzMgACgkQODUnwSLUlKRRfgCgulZAvQN61uE6HIcuvxzkU2yS HaAAmwcHY6YYqoTYlw/R/KeWuy/9ferH =zHrR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backup and FreeBSD/ZFS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03.02.2010 17:41, Goran Lowkrantz wrote: I have been using Amanda straight from the port, it supports both tar from snapshots if you need to be able to retrieve individual files from the backup and zfs send if recovery at filesystem level is OK. Does Amanda handle splitting a backup over several tapes (and using the autoloader under FreeBSD?) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktpzQoACgkQODUnwSLUlKT1KwCgqZjUakGildXBWt4WRF/k6x5b NPwAn0uMvmseUwXHCpcxAu9uzdQfMhnJ =hAB3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: $witch a.spine...@rfc1925.net writes: but i look in syslogs of some FreeBSD internet server and there is a great evidence that some botnets are (again) tryng simple combination of uid/pwd. starting from Dec 8 01:00:34 (CET) hundreds of zombies are looking for a valid username. Starting from Dec 8? This has been going on for years, and it is not targeted at FreeBSD; they attack anything that runs an SSH server. Of course, on current OpenSSH versions, it will get them nowhere, because there is no partial confirmation, so they have to guess at the user *and* the password, instead of first searching for an existing user and *then* guessing at the password. (on certain OSes - but not FreeBSD - running certain older OpenSSH versions, you could figure out if the user existed, even if you didn't have thee right password) The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that simple. //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksiUHcACgkQODUnwSLUlKT/MwCfdWQsuwr8EIOkJOJsrXFTmTAY KroAn0pGiF4vbGgcfQqp6IwVULGqYcQk =7Qj5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Svein Skogen svein-listm...@stillbilde.net writes: The easiest way of brute-forcing access to a FreeBSD server includes locating the sysadmin and applying the common desk drawer. It's that simple. *laugh* I thought you were more of a baseball bat kind of guy :) Desk drawers are easier found around the sysadmin, and that means you don't have to carry suspicious evidence around the city. ;) //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksikO8ACgkQODUnwSLUlKT6XwCeLkdjul97Z3I4sC4l0QPmlaPB fJcAn37Lr0NX/LFafzmNNTvg+9rDUzSB =HlBm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chargen wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:51:22AM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk: I had to fight a long battle, well.. I had some support from other academics, to have a linux class in my Faculty. Here the opposition wasn't so much security, as why would any undegraduate need linux, as if MS solutions are a pinnacle of human thought. This is getting so funny.. Next topic please. Peace. What bothers me is that some of these worshipers (be that demon, penguin, apple, or windows) simple cannot fathom the old right tool for the right job saying... //Svein - -- - +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE - +---+--- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mob...@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkshKgUACgkQODUnwSLUlKQepACgkDgvRoCEbJvrRbfkCa3YrF9P c/IAoKNxVaAcoVn/cEYUg0yIJgf6k+ek =oGMp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD RELENG_7 scsi and usb, usb disks take precedence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm writing this, in hope that someone has a quick-and-dirty trick to solve a minor problem I have. My home server, running RELENG_7 is booting off a 10Krpm scsi drive, connected to an adaptec controller. This device is /dev/da0. However, should I accidentally reboot the server with ANY usb block device, FreeBSD assumes that the USB controller is the first scsi chain in the computer, and assigns the lower da numbers to the usb block devices, placing the actual scsi disk as the last da device. Is there any way to tell FreeBSD permanently I want my adaptec controller's scsi chain to be the first, no matter what USB devices you find? If this is documented somewhere, feel free to point me to the correct man page. Regards, Svein Skogen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj3Kl0ACgkQtVbTV+BEzaN0mACeJRcLvDU3W5mu7MUuQmL5Uqpt 5p8AnjcigRJQixlj2J5/WBqSmA2MdcDh =R+MG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD RELENG_7 scsi and usb, usb disks take precedence
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Oct 16), Eric Masson said: Svein Skogen (List Mail Account) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With all due respect, if sysinstall isn't able to write those labels, this is hardly the solution to the problem... ;) Sysinstall, even if it has proven to be useful, is outdated in many respects, it doesn't cope really well with GEOM or ZFS for example. Using GEOM labels ensure that fstab will always be consistent, so *this is* a solution. Now, you can try to patch the kernel to make it probe devices in a predefined sorted order, but I guess it will be much more difficult ;) No patching needed. You can wire down the unit number of your scsi bus and drive with boot hints as described in the scsi(4) manpage. Wire the adaptec card down as scbus0, and wire the device at scbus0.0 down as da0. Thank you. :) //Svein -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj3hWsACgkQtVbTV+BEzaOsfgCfWYOjk23XVQhESghcBb6IGuNH xkIAnRSpdXWZ9yLxQMiFlV++8cAsmTgT =Qkdr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status of NVidia support on x64
According to NVidia's site, NVidia is still waiting for changes to the memory management subsystem in FreeBSD/x64 before a driver can be shipped. What is the status of the changes they have requested? Is there code we can betatest? //Svein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
