Format error in /usr/ports/MOVED

2010-03-29 Thread Wil Hatfield
#pkgdb -F

Errors with: 'portsdb: MOVED file format error'

Find in /usr/ports/MOVED at very bottom
www/trac-webadmin|2010-03-30|Incorporated to www/trac

change to:
www/trac-webadmin||2010-03-30|Incorporated to www/trac


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RE: Kernel Panics in 6.1 and 6.2 always Exim 4

2007-09-23 Thread Wil Hatfield

> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:20 PM
> To: Wil Hatfield
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Kernel Panics in 6.1 and 6.2 always Exim 4
>
>
> Wil Hatfield wrote:
> > Well after a year we still haven't tracked down the kernel
> panic problems
> > that are occuring on both our 6.1 and 6.2 machines for those we have had
> > time to upgrade.  It occurs on 6.1-RC, 6.1-RELEASE 6.1-STABLE,
> 6.2, you name
> > it.
> >
> > We are noticing that all of the dumps are during Exim 4.6x runtime. I am
> > suspicious of PR-97095 but would like others insights into the
> possibility.
>
> Well, as that PR says, the patch was committed after 6.1-RELEASE,
> therefore it is expected that older systems will have the problem.  You
> only provided a trace from a 6.1 machine, so if you are saying that it
> still persists on an up-to-date RELENG_6 kernel, please file a new PR
> with the details.
>
> Kris

Unfortunately when I upgraded the machine I have from 6.1-RELEASE to 6.2 it
stopped dumping for me. So I have nothing to analyze. However, I still get
the kernel panics I did before. Same frequency and always Exim.

I bumped into a thread somewhere that said something about setting
nmbclusters=0 might be a good workaround for this bug. Anybody heard
anything about this or does it seem logical?

Wil

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Kernel Panics in 6.1 and 6.2 always Exim 4

2007-09-21 Thread Wil Hatfield
Well after a year we still haven't tracked down the kernel panic problems
that are occuring on both our 6.1 and 6.2 machines for those we have had
time to upgrade.  It occurs on 6.1-RC, 6.1-RELEASE 6.1-STABLE, 6.2, you name
it.

We are noticing that all of the dumps are during Exim 4.6x runtime. I am
suspicious of PR-97095 but would like others insights into the possibility.

 References
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2006-06/msg00011.html
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2006-06/msg00621.html
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2006-06/msg00636.html

Here is my ditty:

 uname -a

FreeBSD machine1.ourdomain.net 6.1-RC FreeBSD 6.1-RC #1: Tue Apr 11 23:19:28
PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
i386


 dmesg

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x5c
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06ab64c
stack pointer   = 0x28:0xf7ab1b10
frame pointer   = 0x28:0xf7ab1b2c
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 17074 (exim)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 4d5h40m36s
Dumping 1015 MB (2 chunks)
  chunk 0: 1MB (160 pages) ... ok
  chunk 1: 1015MB (259840 pages) 1000 984 968 952 936 920 904 888 872 856
840 824 808 792 776 760 744 728 712 696 680 664 648 632 616 600 584 568 552
536 520 504 488 472 456 440 424 408 392 376 360 344 328 312 296 280 264 248
232 216 200 184 168 152 136 120 104 88 72 56 40 24 8Copyright (c) 1992-2006
The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RC #1: Tue Apr 11 23:19:28 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz (2000.03-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
  Features=0x3febfbff
real memory  = 1065353216 (1016 MB)
avail memory = 1032658944 (984 MB)
MPTable: 
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
agp0:  mem
0xd000-0xd7ff,0xdc10-0xdc17 irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory
agp0: aperture size is 128M
pci0:  at device 29.0 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 29.1 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 29.2 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 29.7 (no driver attached)
pcib1:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
fxp0:  port 0xa000-0xa03f mem
0xdc00-0xdc000fff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci1
miibus0:  on fxp0
inphy0:  on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:10:dc:52:d4:3d
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xcc00-0xcc0f mem 0xdc181000-0xdc1813ff
irq 16 at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0:  on atapci0
ata1:  on atapci0
pci0:  at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
pmtimer0 on isa0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
isa0
fdc0: [FAST]
ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold
ppbus0:  on ppc0
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
unknown:  can't assign resources (memory)
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
unknown:  can't assign resources (port)
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 233536 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
IP Filter: v4.1.8 initialized.  Default = block all, Logging = enabled
ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled,
default to deny, logging unlimited
ad0: 76319MB  at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CDROM  at ata1-master UDMA33
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=23527424, length=131072)]error = 28
g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=23805952, length=32768)]error = 28
g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=23887872, length=32768)]error = 28
g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=23937024, length=819

RE: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.1-Stable to Latest

2007-03-14 Thread Wil Hatfield
Taking this thread a little further since it is right in line with my todo
list for tonight. I currently have 6.1 installed on a Supermicro machine
with two ata drives. There has been a major bug that causes frequent kernel
panics which started at 6.0. The following build options seemed to help with
quick rebooting and recovery. But of course this week the reboots aren't
going to well and it is definately time to upgrade to 6.2-RELEASE
(RELENG_6_2) in hopes that whatever is causing the kernel panics is software
related and has been fixed.

makeoptions DEBUG=-g
options DDB, KDB, GDB
options INVARIANTS
options INVARIANT_SUPPORT
options WITNESS_KDB
options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN

options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER,ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER
options KDB_UNATTENDED

options QUOTA
options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=601
options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
options SMP
options IPFILTER
options IPFILTER_LOG
options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options DUMMYNET
options IPSTEALTH
options HZ=2000

#optionsRESTARTABLE_PANICS
options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=5

Will some of these options still work with 6.2-RELEASE or should I omit
something here in order to use the 6.2 release properly? I am sure there are
some since I am going from a 6.1 prerelease to a release. I am just not sure
which ones should be omitted. I still want the capability of the machine
rebooting unattended if a panic should occur.

Here is some more info in case anybody sees anything that I don't regarding
those panics. Never a single vmcore so I have found debugging quite useless.
But of course I do understand that I have alot to learn about debugging. Not
my forte.


### uname -a ###
123.domain.net 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16
PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL  i386

### dmesg.today ###
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Apr 20 16:01:16 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3206.53-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
  Features=0xbfebfbff
  Features2=0x641d>
  AMD Features=0x2010
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 2146893824 (2047 MB)
avail memory = 2094931968 (1997 MB)
MPTable: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 24
ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 48
ioapic3: Assuming intbase of 72
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2  irqs 48-71 on motherboard
ioapic3  irqs 72-95 on motherboard
npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
cpu1 on motherboard
cpu2 on motherboard
cpu3 on motherboard
pcib0:  pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
pci0:  at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
pcib1:  irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci1
pci2:  on pcib2
pci1:  at device 0.1 (no driver
attached)
pcib3:  at device 0.2 on pci1
pci3:  on pcib3
pci1:  at device 0.3 (no driver
attached)
pcib4:  irq 16 at device 4.0 on pci0
pci4:  on pcib4
pcib5:  irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci0
pci5:  on pcib5
pcib6:  at device 28.0 on pci0
pci6:  on pcib6
em0:  port
0x2000-0x203f mem 0xdd20-0xdd21 irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:04
em1:  port
0x2040-0x207f mem 0xdd22-0xdd23 irq 25 at device 2.0 on pci6
em1: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:84:f0:05
uhci0:  port 0x1400-0x141f irq 16 at device
29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0x1420-0x143f irq 19 at device
29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0:  at device 29.4 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 29.5 (no driver
attached)
ehci0:  mem 0xdd001400-0xdd0017ff irq 23
at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: EHCI version 1.0
usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1
usb2:  on ehci0
usb2: USB revision 2.0
uhub2: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
pcib7:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci7:  on pcib7
pci7:  at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x1

RE: ATA Issues Fixed?

2007-02-28 Thread Wil Hatfield
> In 6.0 and early 6.1 I started having some major issues with 
> fatals. After a new WD hard drive, new cables, etc and hearing of 
> other issues I pretty much came to the conclusion there was a bug 
> in the OS somewhere regarding how it was handling ATA drives and 
> that it just hadn't been discovered yet. 
> 
> Could any of you that were having those nasty ATA drive issues 
> back then please tell me if you are pleased with 6.2 and whether 
> those fatals went away?

Duh! I have the flu and I think I relapsed to my MSDOS days. Replace the word 
fatals above with kernel panics and maybe somebody will know what I am talking 
about. Geesh sorry!

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ATA Issues Fixed?

2007-02-28 Thread Wil Hatfield
In 6.0 and early 6.1 I started having some major issues with fatals. After a 
new WD hard drive, new cables, etc and hearing of other issues I pretty much 
came to the conclusion there was a bug in the OS somewhere regarding how it was 
handling ATA drives and that it just hadn't been discovered yet. 

Could any of you that were having those nasty ATA drive issues back then please 
tell me if you are pleased with 6.2 and whether those fatals went away?

Cheers,

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RE: Requiring Manual FSCK -y

2006-05-08 Thread Wil Hatfield
> background_fsck="YES"

Perfect thank you.

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Requiring Manual FSCK -y

2006-05-08 Thread Wil Hatfield
It seems that my FBSD 6.1 machines are requiring a shell and manual fsck -y
after a kernel panic and dump.  Is there any way to automate this so that I
don't have to get the guys at the datacenter to do it for me?

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RE: DMA TIMEOUT

2006-04-20 Thread Wil Hatfield

> Add the following to your kernel config:
> makeoptions DEBUG=-g
> options DDB, KDB, GDB
> options INVARIANTS
> options INVARIANT_SUPPORT
> options WITNESS_KDB
> options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN
> # Add this if you're using a firewire console
> options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER,ALT_BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER
> # Do an unattended dump and reboot
> options   KDB_UNATTENDED
>
> Then recompile your kernel.  The problem you're going to run into
> since the problems you're having seem to be with the ATA code is that
> there is a good chance you're not going to be able to dump the crash
> dump to disk.  I'd highly recommend using a serial or firewire
> console.

The problem persisted so I rebuilt with the debugging options you gave me.
Other than the firewire console option if a panic occurs where do I go to
obtain a backtrace?

Yes ado1a is dying with a complete failure it seems so I am guessing I am
going to need to look into the firewire option. But I would like to look
into the conventional backtrace retrieval first.

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RE: DMA TIMEOUT

2006-04-13 Thread Wil Hatfield
> Do you have a backtrace?

No. To be honest I have worked a little with the debugging but that was a
long time ago. We ran 4.10 for eons and never needed to debug a thing. I got
spoiled I guess. So now that I need to add debugging and backtrace to my
arsenal of knowledge could someone point me in the direction of a howto? It
would be good to catch up.

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RE: DMA TIMEOUT

2006-04-13 Thread Wil Hatfield
> Did you use a 80- or 40-ATA cable?
> If  you've configured your drives to do UATA-66 or faster then
> FreeBSD (or
> any other OS for that matter) will crash if you connect a second drive...

It's an 80 wire. I have two drives on nearly all of my machines and never
had an issue with crashing until just recently. Started in 5.4, gone in
6.1-PRE, back in 6.1-RC.  It doesn't happen alot though under 6.1-RC. But
under 5.4 it was about every 8 hours on average. So in one sense 6.1 is
still saving my arsh.

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RE: DMA TIMEOUT

2006-04-13 Thread Wil Hatfield
> I had a similar situation under 6.0. My secondary drive would
> throw DMA read
> errors at bootup, adding several minutes to the boot process, so
> I ran it in
> PIO mode. The upgrade to 6.1 solved it, both drives work fine as DMA now.

Looks like the DMA errors are back in 6.1-RC with ATA or at least similar
DMA errors. The new one froze my machine with an error like "Error while
performing DMA_WRITE command". A new twist to the WRITE_DMA Timeouts of 5.4.
I am starting to think that they aren't going to get the ATA issues all
worked out anytime soon so they are changing the errors. ;-)

And of course no automatic reboot on panic.

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RE: Bge Kernel Compile Issues

2006-04-10 Thread Wil Hatfield
> > Check your RAM lately? Kernel and world compiles usually make RAM issues
> > evident.

RAM checked out fine.

> /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c
> /usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c: In function `bge_newbuf_jumbo':
> /usr/src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:513: warning: 'zone' might be used
> uninitialized in
> this function

The problems with GENERIC build, the BGE 'zone' issue, and half a dozen
other similar uninitialized variable errors were all caused by this:

options RESTARTABLE_PANICS

Turning it off made it all build just fine on multiple machines. Always
something right in front of your face isn't it?

Now my question is with the RESTARTABLE_PANICS turned off are my machines
going to hang at kernel panics? What is the deal with that? Still waiting
for an answer on that one.

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RE: Bge Kernel Compile Issues

2006-04-10 Thread Wil Hatfield
> Check your RAM lately? Kernel and world compiles usually make RAM issues
> evident.

/usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c: In function `bge_newbuf_jumbo':
/usr/src/sys/sys/mbuf.h:513: warning: 'zone' might be used uninitialized in
this function

I haven't ever seen errors like that caused by RAM but heck I will put it on
the tester. What can I lose.

Though I would think running the buildworld with a -j4 would have found a
ram issue before building the kernel would have.

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RE: Bge Kernel Compile Issues

2006-04-10 Thread Wil Hatfield

> Yes I ran a buildworld first.
> No I can't build the GENERIC config as it has ALOT more problems than just
> the bge drivers.

What I am saying about the GENERIC is that it chokes when trying to install
alot of the GENERIC drivers that aren't needed. For instance the aic and
aha. Once I disable those the compile gets alot farther and eventually gets
to the bge issue. Which I have yet to get resolved.

I am going to try the GENERIC again without changing anything at all. Even
the firewall and SMP. Just right out of the box GENERIC. If it makes it to
6.1-PRE then I will try the custom kernel. Perhaps the sequence of events is
the issue. Or maybe the firewall and SMP. We shall see.

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RE: Bge Kernel Compile Issues

2006-04-10 Thread Wil Hatfield
> Let us start with the usual questions:
>  Did you do a buildworld first?
>  Can you build a GENERIC kernel?

Yes I ran a buildworld first.
No I can't build the GENERIC config as it has ALOT more problems than just
the bge drivers.

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Bge Kernel Compile Issues

2006-04-10 Thread Wil Hatfield
150 USB Ethernet

# FireWire support
#device firewire    # FireWire bus code
#device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da)
#device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!)

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RE: Partitioning on existing system

2006-04-09 Thread Wil Hatfield
> tmpmfs="YES"
> tmpsize="100m"
> tmpmfs_flags="-S -M -o noexec,nosuid"
>
> Is there something wrong with this because it isn't creating a
> /tmp at all.
>
> Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #4: Mon Apr  3 22:25:51 PDT 2006

Ok, I am going to solve my own problem just for search engine food.

Aside from adding the rc.conf variables there has to also be a /tmp folder
in the first place. I don't know why. I would figure that if needed that
that would be part of the boot scripts. But it isn't, so for us tmpmfs
newbies:

Create an empty /tmp folder

Add the following to rc.conf:
tmpmfs="YES"
tmpsize="50m"
tmpmfs_flags="-S -M -o noexec,nosuid"
clear_tmp_enable="YES"

reboot

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RE: Partitioning on existing system

2006-04-09 Thread Wil Hatfield
> "tmpmfs" and related variables in rc.conf(5).
> By default it does a memory-backed disk instead of file-backed, but
> that can be adjusted.
> 
> Personally, I find memory-backed /tmp to be more useful anyway.

tmpmfs="YES"
tmpsize="100m"
tmpmfs_flags="-S -M -o noexec,nosuid"

Is there something wrong with this because it isn't creating a /tmp at all.

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RE: Partitioning on existing system

2006-04-09 Thread Wil Hatfield
> Thanks for the great kick in the right direction. Is it really
> this easy? I
> guess so cause it is working. I dropped in a helloworld script, chmoded it
> and even as root I couldn't run it. Supreme!
>
> mdmfs -M -o noexec,nosuid -s 100m md0 /tmp
> chmod 1777 /tmp
>

Ahhh crud! I guess it isn't that easy. After a reboot the old /tmp comes
back with executable permissions. What do I have to do to keep the device
around?

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RE: Partitioning on existing system

2006-04-09 Thread Wil Hatfield
Chad,

> this appears that you want a file backed image file mounted as your /
> tmp.  This should be easy to do.  Read the handbook for file-backed md
> (4) devices.
>
> I don't use them for /tmp but I run them with jails...  I have about
> 60 such image files mounted now for example

Thanks for the great kick in the right direction. Is it really this easy? I
guess so cause it is working. I dropped in a helloworld script, chmoded it
and even as root I couldn't run it. Supreme!

mdmfs -M -o noexec,nosuid -s 100m md0 /tmp
chmod 1777 /tmp

Now anybody know of an easy way to search for chroot.


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Partitioning on existing system

2006-04-08 Thread Wil Hatfield
Ok I screwed up on one of my machines and forgot to put the /tmp directory
on its own slice. How can I do this on an existing system? Linux has this
procedure. Anything like it for FreeBSD?

dd if=/dev/zero of=tmpMnt bs=1024 count=10
/sbin/mke2fs /dev/tmpMnt
cd /
cp -R /tmp /tmp_backup
mount -o loop,noexec,nosuid,rw /dev/tmpMnt /tmp
chmod 1777 /tmp
cp -R /tmp_backup/* /tmp/
rm -rf /tmp_backup

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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RE: Panic Reboots

2006-04-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Debugging is not enabled ... yet. It just sits at the bottom of the panic
screen and gives no options. The spot at the bottom is normally where it
says "Rebooting in nn seconds"

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On Monday 03 April 2006 12:36, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> Well that didn't work. My Fatal Trap 12 just sits there until we
> get it plugged in and run a couple of fsck on it.
>
> So why doesn't 5.4 reboot on panics?  And is this also an issue
> with 6.x?
Does it sit at a db> prompt?
I normally have debugging enabled and have the following in my kernel
config:
options KDB, KDB_UNATTENDED

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-04-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Ville,

Yes I definitely noticed the "blame the hardware" issue.  I suppose it is
just the communities way of going through the process of elimination. The
upgrade to 6.1 seems to be the best thing I have done so far. Now if I can
just figure out why the 5.4 machine doesn't reboot on panics. I worry that
6.1 also has this issue but since it hasn't paniced I can't tell.  Once I
can figure that problem out I am home free.

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Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 11:29 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: ATA Drive Issues


> From: "Wil Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am giving 6.1 a whirl.
> In the first 5 minutes I have already noticed that there are some
> obvious filesystem issues fixed. I ran a tar and compared the
> speed to that on one of my 4.x boxes and low and behold they are
> about the same. THANK GOD!

Hi,

I had similar issues with a server freezing, and it also turned out to
be WRITE_DMA failures on one of the (SATA) HDs. This was on 6.0-release,
and upgrading to 6-stable helped. Nice to see it fixed your problem,
too. 6.1 seems to be a really stable and performing branch.

When reporting problems for HDs, it's good policy to always state the HD
 and motherboard/chipset brand, and to point out if/when one has
checked/renewed the cabling (as you did). Also test results from
smartmontools and HD manufacturer disk tests are good to state.

Even when doing this, the FreeBSD community is peculiarly keen on
blaming everything on failing HW and bad cabling. My experience is,
though, that the first thing to blame (when cabling and HDs have passed
tests), is the HD controller, especially when it's one of the crappy
ones, like Silicon Image 3xxx. These crappy chipsets results in that
FreeBSD doesn't have good support for them, as they are unreliable per
definition.

I don't meen to critisize FreeBSD, on the contrary. But it's a bit
annoying to always get responses to all HD related stuff that "your HW
is failing", when everything you've done for the last week is tests
which claim it isn't.

I'm not familiar with the innards of FreeBSD, so could someone explain
why FreeBSD is so picky about cabling? I'm pretty well-read in physics,
so the theory of FreeBSD using less-energetic electrons to pass data in
the cables doesn't seem to hold up (insert smiley here). I mean, if
other operating systems don't do some sort of error checking to exclude
the errors on HD/CD-ROM drives that make FreeBSD hiccup, then what's up?
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RE: Panic Reboots

2006-04-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Well that didn't work. My Fatal Trap 12 just sits there until we get it
plugged in and run a couple of fsck on it.

So why doesn't 5.4 reboot on panics?  And is this also an issue with 6.x?

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Subject: Panic Reboots


What are the best kernel options for rebooting after a panic?

I am going to try these. Will this do the trick? Not sure about the
restartable_panics so I figured I would ask.

options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=10
options RESTARTABLE_PANICS

> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11 #1: Sat Apr  1 13:58:33 PST 2006

I used to get reboots by default. Or at least as I recall I did. Did the
default for PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME become -1 in this branch?

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-04-01 Thread Wil Hatfield
I did a make -j80 buildworld and this is about the worse that it got. The
build finished without freezes of any kind.

last pid: 98605;  load averages: 19.98, 14.50, 10.16 up 0+00:52:34
15:54:35
45 processes:  1 running, 43 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 14.8% user,  0.0% nice,  5.1% system,  0.2% interrupt, 79.9%
idle
Mem: 19M Active, 494M Inact, 158M Wired, 44K Cache, 112M Buf, 1331M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free

So I ran it again with two big tarballs being made in the background and
that one finished too as did the tarballs in a very timely manner. I think I
have found some stability and performance for my new machines.  Thanks for
all the help guys.

The skies look so much bluer and brighter today..  ;-)

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-04-01 Thread Wil Hatfield
I am giving 6.1 a whirl. In the first 5 minutes I have already noticed that
there are some obvious filesystem issues fixed. I ran a tar and compared the
speed to that on one of my 4.x boxes and low and behold they are about the
same. THANK GOD!

Now I didn't put your -j100 to the test but I did give a -j20 a shot. No DMA
issues, no kernel panics, and actually pretty good performance overall.

109 processes: 20 running, 88 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states: 98.0% user,  0.0% nice,  2.0% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0%
idle
Mem: 147M Active, 72M Inact, 109M Wired, 112M Buf, 1673M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
49641 root1 1290 12476K 11880K RUN1   0:01 45.00% cc1
49487 root1 1210 10148K  9584K CPU3   0   0:01 29.60% cc1
49585 root1 1210 12780K 12220K RUN0   0:01 28.71% cc1
49653 root1 1290 11036K 10428K RUN3   0:00 27.00% cc1
49649 root1 1280  9476K  8880K RUN1   0:00 24.00% cc1
49571 root1 1210 12540K 11972K RUN0   0:01 22.06% cc1
49592 root1 1210 11728K 11104K RUN0   0:00 13.31% cc1
49618 root1 1220 10684K 10116K RUN0   0:01 12.61% cc1
49599 root1 1210 10924K 10352K CPU1   0   0:00 12.26% cc1
49595 root1 1210 10576K 10012K RUN0   0:00 11.91% cc1
49632 root1 1210 10876K 10312K CPU2   0   0:00 10.85% cc1
49605 root1 1210 10704K 10132K RUN0   0:00 10.50% cc1
49630 root1 1210 10656K 10088K RUN0   0:00 10.50% cc1
49603 root1 1210 10864K 10296K RUN0   0:00 10.50% cc1
49621 root1 1210 10712K 10144K RUN0   0:00  8.75% cc1
49637 root1 1210 10920K 10300K RUN0   0:00  8.75% cc1
49611 root1 1210 10936K 10364K RUN0   0:00  8.40% cc1
49470 root1   80  3576K  3464K ppwait 2   0:00  3.50% make
  588 root1  960  6120K  3096K select 0   0:03  0.00% sshd
37381 root1  960   548K   436K select 0   0:00  0.00% make
37467 root1  960   808K   696K select 0   0:00  0.00% make
37380 root1  960  2472K  1720K CPU0   0   0:00  0.00% top
  597 root1  960  6080K  3080K select 0   0:00  0.00% sshd
47338 root1  960   772K   664K select 0   0:00  0.00% make
  603 root1  200  5108K  3200K pause  2   0:00  0.00% csh
  594 root1  200  4852K  2880K pause  0   0:00  0.00% csh


Now off to try to kill it some more.

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-Original Message-
From: Anish Mistry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:42 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Wil Hatfield
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 21:28, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> Beto,
>
> > fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the
> > performance testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it
> > live.
>
> Suggestions for tools that REALLY hammer?
"make -j100 buildworld" is always fun :)

>
>
> --
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:17 PM
> To: Wil Hatfield
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:00:34 -0800
>
> "Wil Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beto,
> >
> > I am currently trying to upgrade one without customers on it to
> > 6.0. But as was the problem with 5.4 the problems don't show up
> > until the machine is under high load.  So even under 6 I won't
> > have a clue if the issues are fixed until I get the customers on
> > it. So it doesn't make alot of difference.
>
> fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the performance
> testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it live.
>
> > I checked with the manufacturer or the machine and they assure me
> > that they installed brand new high quality 80/40 cables. But then
> > again what did I expect them to say. So do you know of a good
> > high quality 80/40 manufacture and where I can buy some new
> > cables? What's the best of the best?
>
> not really - i had my bad experience with cables, just went out,
> got the ones that a) weren't 10 for a buck , b) actually looked
> well built. I just went to my preferred provider here in town
> (eer... "online" actually...but they are local (Syd, AU) )
>
> > At Supermicro's recommendation I already phlashed to the latest
> > bios.
>
> cool - but my point was not to assume that new bios would be better
> - it may actually be a step backwards when combined with your other
> hardware and software.
>
> > Well it is good to know you think 6 is b

Panic Reboots

2006-04-01 Thread Wil Hatfield
What are the best kernel options for rebooting after a panic?

I am going to try these. Will this do the trick? Not sure about the
restartable_panics so I figured I would ask.

options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=10
options RESTARTABLE_PANICS

> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11 #1: Sat Apr  1 13:58:33 PST 2006

I used to get reboots by default. Or at least as I recall I did. Did the
default for PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME become -1 in this branch?

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RE: Merging Groups

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Nevermind I got it.

audit:*:77:


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Subject: Merging Groups


U I have a bad habit of not merging the /etc/group file. Can someone
send me over the line from your FBSD 6.0 install, for the new audit group?

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Merging Groups

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
U I have a bad habit of not merging the /etc/group file. Can someone
send me over the line from your FBSD 6.0 install, for the new audit group?

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
I'm not that frustrated.  ;-)

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From: Anish Mistry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:42 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Wil Hatfield
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 21:28, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> Beto,
>
> > fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the
> > performance testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it
> > live.
>
> Suggestions for tools that REALLY hammer?
"make -j100 buildworld" is always fun :)

>
>
> --
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:17 PM
> To: Wil Hatfield
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:00:34 -0800
>
> "Wil Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beto,
> >
> > I am currently trying to upgrade one without customers on it to
> > 6.0. But as was the problem with 5.4 the problems don't show up
> > until the machine is under high load.  So even under 6 I won't
> > have a clue if the issues are fixed until I get the customers on
> > it. So it doesn't make alot of difference.
>
> fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the performance
> testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it live.
>
> > I checked with the manufacturer or the machine and they assure me
> > that they installed brand new high quality 80/40 cables. But then
> > again what did I expect them to say. So do you know of a good
> > high quality 80/40 manufacture and where I can buy some new
> > cables? What's the best of the best?
>
> not really - i had my bad experience with cables, just went out,
> got the ones that a) weren't 10 for a buck , b) actually looked
> well built. I just went to my preferred provider here in town
> (eer... "online" actually...but they are local (Syd, AU) )
>
> > At Supermicro's recommendation I already phlashed to the latest
> > bios.
>
> cool - but my point was not to assume that new bios would be better
> - it may actually be a step backwards when combined with your other
> hardware and software.
>
> > Well it is good to know you think 6 is better than 5.4. But then
> > again you are running SATA and we all know 6 runs SATA better.
> > Hopefully it runs ATA better too.
>
> actually, that's the only box with SATA - all the others run PATA
> or SCSI.
> B
>
>
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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Beto,

> fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the performance
> testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it live.

Suggestions for tools that REALLY hammer? 


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From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:17 PM
To: Wil Hatfield
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:00:34 -0800
"Wil Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Beto,
> 
> I am currently trying to upgrade one without customers on it to 6.0.
> But as was the problem with 5.4 the problems don't show up until the
> machine is under high load.  So even under 6 I won't have a clue if
> the issues are fixed until I get the customers on it. So it doesn't
> make alot of difference.

fair enough, but you should be able to use some of the performance
testing tools to hammer the server before pushing it live.

> 
> I checked with the manufacturer or the machine and they assure me
> that they installed brand new high quality 80/40 cables. But then
> again what did I expect them to say. So do you know of a good high
> quality 80/40 manufacture and where I can buy some new cables? What's
> the best of the best?

not really - i had my bad experience with cables, just went out, got
the ones that a) weren't 10 for a buck , b) actually looked well
built. I just went to my preferred provider here in town (eer...
"online" actually...but they are local (Syd, AU) ) 

> 
> At Supermicro's recommendation I already phlashed to the latest bios.
> 

cool - but my point was not to assume that new bios would be better -
it may actually be a step backwards when combined with your other
hardware and software.

> Well it is good to know you think 6 is better than 5.4. But then
> again you are running SATA and we all know 6 runs SATA better.
> Hopefully it runs ATA better too.

actually, that's the only box with SATA - all the others run PATA or
SCSI. 
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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Just never seen that before out of WD. Seen it with Seagate though. So I
guess it could happen. But there are 3 batches involved I believe. The 4
200GB could be from the same batch but unlikely. Purchased first two then
the second two a month later.

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Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues



On Mar 31, 2006, at 6:25 PM, Wil Hatfield wrote:

> So are you saying that I have 5 new drives (a week old) all with
> the same
> problems? And S.M.A.R.T doesn't show any of the issues.
>
> I need to go play the lottery.  ;-)

Whats so strange about the notion of 5 identical new drives out of
the same batch having the same problem?

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RE: Upgrading 5.4 -> 6.0

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
You're right my bad. I forgot to run make buildworld first. This chit
has me pretty frustrated.

Thanks,

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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: Upgrading 5.4 -> 6.0


On Friday 31 March 2006 20:41, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> Is there a process for upgrading from 5.4 to 6.0 via CVS? Or do I
> need to do this upgrade from CD?  Never received this error before.
>
>
> --
>
> >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel
>
> --
> cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;
> PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/lega
>cy/usr/bi
> n:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sb
>in:/usr/o
> bj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/u
>sr/sbin:/ usr/bin  config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
> /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM-KERNEL
> ERROR: version of config(8) does not match kernel!
> config version = 500013, version required = 63
>
> Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync
> with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary
> before trying this again.
>
> If running the new config fails check your config
> file against the GENERIC or LINT config files for
> changes in config syntax, or option/device naming
> conventions
>
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
>
>
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You need to follow the correct procedure.
make buildworld && make kernel KERNCONF=CUSTOM-KERNEL
reboot to since user mode, mount the partitions
mergemaster -p && make installworld && mergemaster

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Beto,

I am currently trying to upgrade one without customers on it to 6.0. But as
was the problem with 5.4 the problems don't show up until the machine is
under high load.  So even under 6 I won't have a clue if the issues are
fixed until I get the customers on it. So it doesn't make alot of
difference.

I checked with the manufacturer or the machine and they assure me that they
installed brand new high quality 80/40 cables. But then again what did I
expect them to say. So do you know of a good high quality 80/40 manufacture
and where I can buy some new cables? What's the best of the best?

At Supermicro's recommendation I already phlashed to the latest bios.

Well it is good to know you think 6 is better than 5.4. But then again you
are running SATA and we all know 6 runs SATA better. Hopefully it runs ATA
better too.

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-Original Message-
From: Norberto Meijome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:48 PM
To: Wil Hatfield
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:43:35 -0800
"Wil Hatfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok I am just nervous about going to 6.x and putting these customers
> through this not once more, but twice when I have to go back to 4.x.

Sorry for asking the obvious, but why not try with 6 without any
customers on the servers? putting new hardware/software straight into
production seems to me like looking for troubles.

Anyway, back to the problem at hand, just because they ARE new doesn't
mean the cables/drives are NOT bad. Granted, that many drives in a bad
state would be weird...but not really if they are from the same
manufacturer's batch. smartmon clearing them would suggest that it's
cabling issue. seriously, TRYING new good quality cables from a
different provider can't be that hard/expensive?

alternatively, try different BIOS version. usually a new version of the
bIOS fixes problems. BUT I have a server (dual amd64 TYAN box,
2x SATA-I controllers with 4 SATA-II drives) which would simply not
boot with a newer version of the bios, so I left it at the original
BIOS (yes, keep backups of your BIOS upgrades! :-) .

FWIW, 6 is better than 5.4, at least for me.

good luck,
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Upgrading 5.4 -> 6.0

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Is there a process for upgrading from 5.4 to 6.0 via CVS? Or do I need to do
this upgrade from CD?  Never received this error before.


--
>>> stage 1: configuring the kernel
--
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bi
n:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/o
bj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/
usr/bin  config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM-KERNEL
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM-KERNEL
ERROR: version of config(8) does not match kernel!
config version = 500013, version required = 63

Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync
with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary
before trying this again.

If running the new config fails check your config
file against the GENERIC or LINT config files for
changes in config syntax, or option/device naming
conventions

*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
David,

So are you saying that I have 5 new drives (a week old) all with the same
problems? And S.M.A.R.T doesn't show any of the issues.

I need to go play the lottery.  ;-)

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Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues



On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:52 PM, fbsd_user wrote:

> Your problems may be caused by your HD starting to go bad.

I agree. Its the classic symptoms of cable, power supply noise, and/
or HD CPU going sour. I have a brand new drive here with similar
problems. And its twin from the same batch without.

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
Yah but I didn't see it as being "fixed" in 6.x either. That is why I
mentioned the lack of acknowledgement. If there wasn't a bug acknowledged
and tracked how can it be fixed?  Perhaps none of the Write_DMA problemed
folks have gone to 6.x and when they finally do the problem with show up
again. Who knows.  I guess maybe I am supposed to be that person.

Ok I am just nervous about going to 6.x and putting these customers through
this not once more, but twice when I have to go back to 4.x.

So far I have the Write_DMA problems and Fatal Traps that claim /dev/ad0 to
be the problem. Three outages today. Maybe it is time to look into the
penguin.

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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:34 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Wil Hatfield
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 17:45, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> I was afraid Soren was going to be mentioned. Well shouldn't the
> FreeBSD 5.4 release information state that it isn't recommended for
> machines with ATA drives?  I really have no way of downgrading to
> 5.3 without losing a couple hundred customers over it.  But with
> all these filesystem freezes I guess I will eventually lose them
> anyways.
>
> Without the acknowledgement of the bugs and proper bug tracking I
> doubt that these issues are going to get fixed in 5.5 or 6.1
> either. It seems the ATA issues are being ignored. How can a
> release make it this far down the branch without fixing the good
> old ATA drive issues first?
ATA on 6.x and CURRENT are being maintained by Soren, just not 5.x.
Moving to 6.x should fix the problem.  Checking gnats only shows
outstanding WRITE_DMA issues for 5.x.

>
> Cheers,
>
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anish
> Mistry Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
> Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues
>
> On Friday 31 March 2006 17:08, Wil Hatfield - HyperConX wrote:
> > What is the problem with 5.4 and ATA drives? I am running the
> > latest release of FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11.  I have two basic ATA
> > drives, no raids and no scsi anything. Every now and then under a
> > bit of load the harddrive freezes with either a kernel panic or a
> > Write_DMA error. I have to reboot the machine and run fsck -y to
> > recover. Sometimes I have to run it twice.
> >From my understanding ATA in 5.4 is slightly broken since Soren
> > hasn't
>
> actually touched that code.  The last time he touched the 5.x
> branch was for 5.3.  I had a weird issue with a 5.3->5.4 upgrade a
> while back.  My tape drive disappeared :(.  I didn't have time to
> investigate, so I just backed down to 5.3, which works fine while I
> work up a schedule to migrate to 6.X.
>
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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
5 brand new harddrives all going bad within 5 hours of installing FreeBSD
5.4? Not likely. And as I said smarttools reports there are no issues with
any of the drives.

What size/type/manufacturer are your ATA drives that you are running 5.4
with?


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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:52 PM
To: Wil Hatfield; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: ATA Drive Issues


Hay I am ran ata HD on 5.4 and now on 6.0 with out any problems.

Your problems may be caused by your HD starting to go bad.

-Original Message-
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Hatfield
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:46 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: ATA Drive Issues


I was afraid Soren was going to be mentioned. Well shouldn't the
FreeBSD 5.4
release information state that it isn't recommended for machines
with ATA
drives?  I really have no way of downgrading to 5.3 without losing a
couple
hundred customers over it.  But with all these filesystem freezes I
guess I
will eventually lose them anyways.

Without the acknowledgement of the bugs and proper bug tracking I
doubt that
these issues are going to get fixed in 5.5 or 6.1 either. It seems
the ATA
issues are being ignored. How can a release make it this far down
the branch
without fixing the good old ATA drive issues first?

Cheers,

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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:29 PM
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Cc: Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 17:08, Wil Hatfield - HyperConX wrote:
> What is the problem with 5.4 and ATA drives? I am running the
> latest release of FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11.  I have two basic ATA
> drives, no raids and no scsi anything. Every now and then under a
> bit of load the harddrive freezes with either a kernel panic or a
> Write_DMA error. I have to reboot the machine and run fsck -y to
> recover. Sometimes I have to run it twice.
>From my understanding ATA in 5.4 is slightly broken since Soren
hasn't
actually touched that code.  The last time he touched the 5.x branch
was for 5.3.  I had a weird issue with a 5.3->5.4 upgrade a while
back.  My tape drive disappeared :(.  I didn't have time to
investigate, so I just backed down to 5.3, which works fine while I
work up a schedule to migrate to 6.X.

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RE: ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
I was afraid Soren was going to be mentioned. Well shouldn't the FreeBSD 5.4
release information state that it isn't recommended for machines with ATA
drives?  I really have no way of downgrading to 5.3 without losing a couple
hundred customers over it.  But with all these filesystem freezes I guess I
will eventually lose them anyways.

Without the acknowledgement of the bugs and proper bug tracking I doubt that
these issues are going to get fixed in 5.5 or 6.1 either. It seems the ATA
issues are being ignored. How can a release make it this far down the branch
without fixing the good old ATA drive issues first?

Cheers,

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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:29 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 17:08, Wil Hatfield - HyperConX wrote:
> What is the problem with 5.4 and ATA drives? I am running the
> latest release of FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11.  I have two basic ATA
> drives, no raids and no scsi anything. Every now and then under a
> bit of load the harddrive freezes with either a kernel panic or a
> Write_DMA error. I have to reboot the machine and run fsck -y to
> recover. Sometimes I have to run it twice.
>From my understanding ATA in 5.4 is slightly broken since Soren hasn't
actually touched that code.  The last time he touched the 5.x branch
was for 5.3.  I had a weird issue with a 5.3->5.4 upgrade a while
back.  My tape drive disappeared :(.  I didn't have time to
investigate, so I just backed down to 5.3, which works fine while I
work up a schedule to migrate to 6.X.

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ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield
782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata0-master
PIO4
ad1: 190782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata0-slave
PIO4
acd0: CDROM  at ata1-master PIO4
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex


Let me know if anyone wants more info.  Any help or insight that anyone can
provide would be great. These machines went are production as of just
recently and these issues didn't appear until put under some load. So
basically I am now screwed. HELP!

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ATA Drive Issues

2006-03-31 Thread Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata0-master
PIO4
ad1: 190782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata0-slave
PIO4
acd0: CDROM  at ata1-master PIO4
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
em0: Link is up 100 Mbps Full Duplex


Let me know if anyone wants more info.  Any help or insight that anyone can
provide would be great. These machines went are production as of just
recently and these issues didn't appear until put under some load. So
basically I am now screwed. HELP!

Cheers,

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RE: question on hosting and memory

2005-08-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
David,

First no host should be running anything less than dual 2.x Xeons and 1GB of
RAM. Thats a minimum. Add a large swap of about 4GB.  Then tailor your 1.3
so it only compiles with the components necessary. Basic core, PHP,
Frontpage, Python as DSO whenever possible. And your PHP should only be
compiled with what you actually expect to use. Our httpd's are using about
10MB each with PHP loaded. Then fine tune your httpd.conf timeouts so that
those idle processes don't stick around too long.

Then tune your kernel settings a bit. I use these in sysctl.conf and came
about them through trial and error mostly. Of course this means that
somebody on the list here may disagree with them but they work well and help
keep the processes in line.

kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024
kern.maxfiles=2
kern.maxproc=12328
kern.maxprocperuid=11084
kern.ipc.nmbclusters=32768
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=32768

Of course you will need to fine tune other full time applications on the
machine to use as little resources as possible themselves. This includes
your SMTP server, Pop3 server, etc. The more you can fine tune the faster
the machine can do its business and move on to the next task.


Hope it helps,

Wil Hatfield
HyperConX




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Subject: question on hosting and memory


I am running apache 1.3 with php and I find when that for each person
who visits the site, an additional 29 meg is consumed of my measly 512M.
Searching around, it seems like this is relatively normal.

So here is my question. How do big-time servers handle these type of
memory requirements? Presumably there are servers out there getting
thousands of visitors at once. Do they have 29 Meg * 1000 for every
thousand visitors? At what memory ceiling do they setup another server
machine to handle the load? Wouldn't it require a ton of servers to handle
a load of a thousand visitors?

I am nowhere in this league, but the question comes to mind because it
seems crazy that 20 visitors to my site can clog things up, simply because
I choose to run apache and php.

I have been looking at lighttpd decrease memory usage, but I require
url rewriting and I find the documentation for lighttpd is lacking
is this area.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome -

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RE: Making the Leap to 5.4 and 64bit

2005-08-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Chad,

That answers my final question of which media to install from. And now I
even understand why. Thanks a million.


Wil Hatfield
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Subject: Re: Making the Leap to 5.4 and 64bit



On Aug 3, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Wil Hatfield wrote:

> Roland,
>
> Thanks for the tips and insight. Are they going to flame me on the
> freebsd-amd64 list for my Xeon questions?

As long as they are 64bit questions, they shouldn't.  Intel adopted
the 64bit extensions that AMD had made for their own 64bit Xeon
series so the SW is the same.  It has the amd64 name since it started
with the AMD opteron, which for a while was the only chip with the
architecture.

Chad

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RE: Making the Leap to 5.4 and 64bit

2005-08-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Chad,

So I can kick it down to 32bit. Great to know and I may have to do that
myself. I will probably give the build a whirl both ways and compare some
benchmarks. Maybe even all 3 ways as I have some R&D time.

Any settings I should know about to kick the install down to 32bit? I
suppose 4.11 is native 32bit or do I have to kick that down too on a 64bit
system?

Cheers,

Wil Hatfield
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On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Wil Hatfield - HyperConX wrote:

> First, greetings to the group and nice to meet everyone's
> acquaintance.
>
> We are getting ready to make a big leap to Dual 64bit Xeon machines
> (SuperMicro) and FreeBSD 5.4. We would really have like to stick
> with 4.11
> but from what I am gathering it certainly doesn't support the 64bit
> processors.

Jut FYI.  You should be able to run 4.11 in i386 (32 bit mode) (or
5.4 in the same mode) if you want.   I run dual 64bit opterons
running i386 32bit version of 5.3...  If you don't need the 64bit
mode and there are 32bit things that you do require, you may want to
consider it for the time being.

Chad


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RE: Making the Leap to 5.4 and 64bit

2005-08-03 Thread Wil Hatfield
Roland,

Thanks for the tips and insight. Are they going to flame me on the
freebsd-amd64 list for my Xeon questions?


Wil Hatfield
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Making the Leap to 5.4 and 64bit

2005-08-03 Thread Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
First, greetings to the group and nice to meet everyone's acquaintance.

We are getting ready to make a big leap to Dual 64bit Xeon machines
(SuperMicro) and FreeBSD 5.4. We would really have like to stick with 4.11
but from what I am gathering it certainly doesn't support the 64bit
processors.

Now on to my questions:

Can anyone share any of their experiences that I may also encounter?
How can I make the most out of SMP and the dual 64bits?
Any undocumented or hard to find settings that I should know about?
Are there any commonly used applications that won't run on this system?


Thanks for your time,

Wil Hatfield
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