RE: Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread jef moskot

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser 
collect our valuable data?


What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? 
Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's 
collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, 
private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents and 
records on Google servers is a great idea.


Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them 
with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable 
explanation for the creation of the tool.


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RE: Google Chrome

2008-09-04 Thread jef moskot

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Seriously, what Google is doing is exactly like what AT&T did when they 
sent out source of the early UNIX to all those colleges and 
universities, so many years ago.


This isn't about creating software, it's about collecting our data.  I 
don't understand why people and institutions are willingly handing over 
all their most valuable information to a private corporation, but maybe 
I'm just old and cranky and not ready for the New World Order.


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Re: messagebus user

2008-08-28 Thread jef moskot

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Dan Nelson wrote:
You should be able to change its uid by deinstalling dbus, then editing 
/usr/ports/devel/dbus/pkg-install, changing the uid in that script to an 
unused ID, and reinstalling.


That worked fine, thanks.  Still don't know what this thing does (the 
things dependent on it seemed either irrelevant or mysterious), but I'm 
happy to resolve the issue this way.


All the userids created by ports should be listed in /usr/ports/UIDs and 
GIDs, so you can check to see if any other ports might conflict with 
existing users.


Interesting, thanks again.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Chris St Denis wrote:
Keep in mind you will probably have the same problem when you upgrade 
the port. Portsnap/csup will overwrite your change so every time you 
upgrade you'll have to change it again.


This might not be an issue due to the explanation from Warren below.


May be easier to just change the user's UID once.


The user has been around longer than FreeBSD has existed and the UID is 
used across various system with different OSs, so the reinstall was 
actually the simpler solution.


On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Warren Block wrote:
If dbus is required, you should be able to create the messagebus user 
before installing the dbus port.  Then the port's pkg-install should see 
that you already have a messagebus user and use it instead of creating a 
new one. (Untested, but it seems like that's worked for upgrading dbus.)


Out of curiosity, I tested this theory and it's correct.

Are there any files out there that messagebus is expected to own that I 
should double-check after the reinstallation?


Thanks to everyone for all the good advice.

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messagebus user

2008-08-26 Thread jef moskot
We just upgraded to a new server (FreeBSD 7.0) and in our passwd file is 
the user "messagebus" (there's also a group).


What's this for and can the UID be changed?  It's got the same number as 
one of our oldest users and we're trying to determine which UID would be 
easier to switch.


While this obviously has something to do with D-BUS (whatever that is), 
it's nothing we installed "on purpose".  If it's not a part of the default 
system, it probably got bundled in as a dependency during an large port 
make.


Any suggestions?

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