Re: php problems
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Mark Moellering wrote: I tried a simple hello world type program the actual code is : ?php echo test ? and the output was; testsegmentation fault First, try it with clean code: put the ; after the command and stop closing the ?php tag at the end of the file. The system is FreeBSD 8.2 and php 5.3 If anyone has any idea of what changes might have been made that could cause this, please let me know. My other thought was to try reinstalling / upgrading php. Thanks in advance Mark Moellering ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Copyright notice in 9.1-RELEASE-p1 is 1992-2012 instead of 1992-2013
On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Bas Smeelen wrote: I just upgraded to systems from 7.4-STABLE to 9.1-RELEASE-p1 and noticed that the copyright shows 1992-2012 instead of 1992-2013 While it would be good for this to be fixed, under the terms of the Berne Convention and US copyright law, the notice is not absolutely necessary (this is the You knew it wasn't yours! answer your mom gave to I did not know whose it was) and defects in the notice are not fatal to the copyright. Some fairly feeble remedies (such as amending the notice on undistributes copies, even after an infringement has been detected) are sufficient to protect the work. (I am not a lawyer, but I live from intellectual property.) -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?
If only subversion had some scripts similar to the *-supfile s with cvsup, including some first time scripts. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). I cannot figure out how to enter ^[ in rc.conf using keychange or kbdcontrol -f, but after some experimentation it appears keychange does not alter the function keys at a low enough level. (Besides the fact that altering some 50-odd keys with keychange seems like it cannot be the right answer.) Termcap seems to be in order. cons25l1 tc's cons25w, and cons25w seems to have the correct ANSI values for the function keys. So howcome if TERM=cons25l1 is set, the keyboard produces weird xterm-like strings? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I find it really interesting that this change which broke just about every critical application I run was not mentioned in the release notes or UPDATING. I'm curious though - why ? As long as TERM is set correctly anything that uses curses will handle the keyboard and screen correctly. If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings? It appears to me it does not. Although I set TERM=cons25l1 in .profile (running bash) and have verified that it is set to that value with SET, it appears to me that the function keys are mapped to weird xterm-like strings instead of their ANSI values (example: F7 = E[18~ not E[S). The TERM environment variable is supposed to describe the terminal not control it. Well, then, where is the setting that makes the F7 key send E[18~ instead of the standard E[S? In the kernel config there's an option TEKEN_CONS25 which will build the console terminal emulator in CONS25 mode. You'll need a custom kernel of course. I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. Grepped /usr/src/sys/conf/* and did not find it. I see from google that something seems to have been added to HEAD and its UPDATING, but there is nothing of the sort in 9.0 RELEASE - p4. I really should have known better by now than to upgrade to a X.0 - perhaps by X.2 or X.3 they will have fix most of the stuff they broke with X.0. Fortunately, I have learned enough to try upgrades on the mirror and not on the production disc. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: If 9.0 had not broken my most important applications, I wouldn't be asking. Which applications - and are they still broken with the right TERM settings (TERM=xterm) ? Joe, most, lynx (which is also my file manager) in functions involving function keys. I could, of course, remap all of the macros, but that would be silly since I have about five pages of keymapping in .Xdefaults to make xterm in X emulate cons25. But that does give me an idea for an emergency solution -- perhaps I can run my console applications in an xterm in X since I made it emulate cons25. Of course there is nothing in X that will put 4000 characters (80x25) on the screen at once as legibly as VGA fonts do - which is why I use console applications to begin with - so that is strictly a get out of a jam solution, not practical for production. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does 9.0 honor TERM settings
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:58:36 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:20:18 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner l...@larseighner.com wrote: I grepped the entire /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf directory. There is no TEKEN_CONS25 or TEKEN or CONS25. Exactly where is this documented? /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is where I found it. Grepped /usr/src/sys/conf/* and did not find it. I see from google that something seems to have been added to HEAD and its UPDATING, but there is nothing of the sort in 9.0 RELEASE - p4. It's there on my 9.0-RELEASE-p4 boxes. In /etc/freebsd-update.conf do you have src among the components to update ? I have never been able to get update to work. I cvsup the source tree (which I suppose is now really serviced by subversion). I really should have known better by now than to upgrade to a X.0 - perhaps by X.2 or X.3 they will have fix most of the stuff they broke with X.0. I've yet to see any breakage, do your applications really break with TERM=xterm on the console ? Only the essential stuff: joe, most, lynx. Of course things which do not use any function keys (including the movement keys) are not affected. Fortunately, I have learned enough to try upgrades on the mirror and not on the production disc. Well yes - no untested updates should ever hit a production system, that's what the QA boxes are for. also the -V switch doesn't give such good results in mergemaster -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash in Firefox
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Manish Jain wrote: I've not experienced any problem with sites that use Flash, including Youtube. Hi Jeff, Okay, so can you please go to the URL below and see whether the bubbles work for you ? recent linux-flash 12.x do not work with any recent version of firefox when the server uses the standard flowplayer set-up (with JS). It does work with flowplayer when used with the flowplayer alternate configuration which is pure html5. Of course, as a user you are SOL if a site has elected to use the JS version of flowplayer. Rolling linux-flash back 6 months or a year will fix this, and it is hoped it will get fixed when linux-flash is bumped to 13.x Please send a cc of your reply to me at bourne.ident...@hotmail.com -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Twitter.com is loading slowly after updating to Firefox 13.0.1
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012, Toomas Aas wrote: Hello! I'm having this problem on two different computers, one running 8.3-STABLE and the other running 9.0-STABLE. After updating Firefox from 12.0 to 13.0.1, whenever I access twitter.com, I can log in but after that a message appears saying that Twitter.com is loading slowly, and the site is practically unusable - clicking on any of the links has no effect. If you do not know that there is something in firefox (now 13ish) which you must have, deinstall it and install firefox-esr (now 10ish). Apparently firefox is bleeding-edge and might better be called firefox-devel. The stable version is in firefox-esr. I haven't found anything that is mission-critical to me that is missing from esr. Everything works, except the linux-flash on flowplayer sites using js, but that is a 12ish linux-flash bug, not firefox. Sites using flowplayer without js work fine. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tweetless
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 7:44 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello, On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote: Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner: Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix this issue. Let us for a minute assume that there is nothing wrong with FF. How about installing Firebug and see in the Net tab that what precisely is happening when you load the Twitter main page? The firebug font is way too small to read and I cannot find the means to increase it (the increase text size in the drop evidental refers to the text size of the subject tab, not the firebug interface. Nothing at all seems to be in the Net tab, however, it is not clear this is active when the subject page is loaded. Firebug crashes firefox repeatedly when the subject page is reloaded or when firebug offers to reload the page itself. Is it waiting for apparently no reason at a particular place? The first page after login (twitter Home) always stops in the same place -- after it draws the tweet box in the left column (but leaves the tweet box non-functional). Some of drop-downs on the top bar work, but others do not drop down. Links in tweets do not open in new tabs (as they usually do) and if they link to twitter pics, those pages will not fully load. Using the reload link in the slow loading message will (at first) reload pages which generally stop in the same place, but repeated reloading eventually leads to nothing but the background showing up. Also, not strictly required, but can you also pass the traffic through something like LiveHTTPHeaders and post a traffic dump? As a third step, run a pcap session and see what is happening on the wire/air ? When I findout what these are. Adapter Description GLXtest process failed (exited with status 1): GLX version older / than the required 1.3 WebGL Renderer: Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues. GPU Accelerated Windows: 0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. / Try updating your graphics driver to version / Anything with EXT_texture_from_pixmap support or newer. This probably means that none of the advanced rendering stuff work on your X setup. The only drivers that work with this machine (Intel G33) are intel and vesa. The intel driver does occasionally freeze X entirely requiring a boot, but this is not what happens when trying to load twitter pages. This is a completely distinct problem but probably it would be interesting to try and figure out why Graphics Acceleration is not working. I have very limited experience with Intel Graphics chipsets. In the i915 days, there used to be something called AIGLX which required some explicit configuration in xorg.conf. Could you check on that? My understanding from reading the xwin list and others is that the intel driver is in some aspects broken for x. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tweetless
Thanks for those who have attempted to help with the problem of twitter pages not loading completely in Firefox 13.0.1,1. My solution was to deinstall Firefox 13.0.1,1 and install firefox-esr (10.0.5.1). This version handles twitter competently and everything else that I have check that is mission critical for me. I do not know what bleeding-edge functionality is lost in this rollback, but it works for me. Since twitter works correctly in firefox-esr and opera (in exactly the same machine with the same os version and network connection), I think the most reasonable assumption is that something in twitter is hitting a bug in firefox 13.0.1,1. If firefox 13.0.1,1 is correct then it is the only one in step on the parade ground. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tweetless
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello, On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote: Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner: Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix this issue. Another thing that doesn't work is rebuilding firefox from the ground up with portupgrade -fR firefox. Where does it burp? Can you post, say, the last 10-15 lines of the compile? Oh, no, the rebuilds go perfectly. What I meant was, it does not work to solve the problem. Can you post the contents of about:config and also try to launch FF from command line and see if there is anything interesting reported back? Also, I hope you do not have any funky CFLAGS set in your make.conf? Of course firefox will not run from the command line (Error: no display specified), but there are no messages as firefox fails repeated to load twitter pages fully when firefox is launched in an xterm. Sorry for the ambiguity, I indeed meant to launch FF from xterm (or some equivalent Terminal Emulator in X) and report back the error. But since you say there is no problem with that, guess things should be good. make.conf: QT4_OPTIONS=CUPS WITH_GCC = yes # added by use.perl 2012-07-03 02:17:12 PERL_VERSION=5.16.0 This looks pretty generic, so nothing to complain about. I hate GUIs, so my mouse-fu skills are not good enough to copy about.config, but here is a save as snip Okay, try this out. Go to preferences and disable hardware acceleration. Also go to about:config and search for gfx. Set the property gfx.direct2d.disabled to true. Bounce the browser and go to about:support. At the bottom of the page, GPU Accelerated Windows should read 0/1. See if that makes a difference. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tweetless
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: On 04-Jul-2012, at 1:59 AM, Lars Eighner wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello, On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote: Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner: Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix this issue. Okay, try this out. Go to preferences and disable hardware acceleration. Could not find this. Also go to about:config and search for gfx. Set the property gfx.direct2d.disabled to true. Did not exist, so I edited prefs.js directly. Bounce the browser and go to about:support. At the bottom of the page, GPU Accelerated Windows should read 0/1. See if that makes a difference. Adapter Description GLXtest process failed (exited with status 1): GLX version older / than the required 1.3 WebGL Renderer: Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues. GPU Accelerated Windows: 0. Blocked for your graphics driver version. / Try updating your graphics driver to version / Anything with EXT_texture_from_pixmap support or newer. The only drivers that work with this machine (Intel G33) are intel and vesa. The intel driver does occasionally freeze X entirely requiring a boot, but this is not what happens when trying to load twitter pages. Anyway, above did not help with problem at hand. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Tweetless
Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. FreeBSD noos.larseighner.com 8.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p2 #0: \ Thu Jun 14 10:31:16 CDT 2012 \ t...@noos.6dollardialup.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NOOSJUNE12 amd64 I'm guessing weirdness in Firefox 13.0.1,1. Many other sites (Facebook, Google Maps, Google, Bing, etc seem to be normal. Is anyone else noticing something of the sort? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tweetless
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Subhro Sankha Kar wrote: Hello, On 03-Jul-2012, at 9:14 PM, Tobias Rehbein wrote: Am Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:04:07AM -0500 schrieb Lars Eighner: Call me crazy, but it seems that since the perl bump (5.12 - threaded-5.16) when firefox (13.0.1,1) got rebuilt, it seems twitter pages do not fully load, give me the slow loading banner, and the page (not browser or X) freezes, but no such problems were evident before, and twitter seems entirely normal in Opera 12.00. Disabling SPDY in about:config (a solution proposed on the net) didn't fix this issue. Another thing that doesn't work is rebuilding firefox from the ground up with portupgrade -fR firefox. Can you post the contents of about:config and also try to launch FF from command line and see if there is anything interesting reported back? Also, I hope you do not have any funky CFLAGS set in your make.conf? Of course firefox will not run from the command line (Error: no display specified), but there are no messages as firefox fails repeated to load twitter pages fully when firefox is launched in an xterm. make.conf: QT4_OPTIONS=CUPS WITH_GCC = yes # added by use.perl 2012-07-03 02:17:12 PERL_VERSION=5.16.0 I hate GUIs, so my mouse-fu skills are not good enough to copy about.config, but here is a save as ?xml version=1.0? ?xml-stylesheet href=chrome://global/skin/config.css type=text/css? !DOCTYPE window SYSTEM chrome://global/locale/config.dtd window id=config xmlns=http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul; title=window.title; windowtype=Preferences:ConfigManager role=application width=750 height=500 disablefastfind=true onunload=onConfigUnload(); onload=onConfigLoad(); script src=chrome://global/content/config.js/ stringbundle id=configBundle src=chrome://global/locale/config.properties/ menupopup id=configContext onpopupshowing=if (event.target == this) updateContextMenu(); menuitem id=toggleSelected default=true label=toggle.label; accesskey=toggle.accesskey; oncommand=ModifySelected();/ menuitem id=modifySelected default=true label=modify.label; accesskey=modify.accesskey; oncommand=ModifySelected();/ menuseparator/ menuitem id=copyPref label=copyPref.label; accesskey=copyPref.accesskey; oncommand=copyPref();/ menuitem id=copyName label=copyName.label; accesskey=copyName.accesskey; oncommand=copyName();/ menuitem id=copyValue label=copyValue.label; accesskey=copyValue.accesskey; oncommand=copyValue();/ menu label=new.label; accesskey=new.accesskey; menupopup menuitem label=string.label; accesskey=string.accesskey; oncommand=NewPref(nsIPrefBranch.PREF_STRING);/ menuitem label=integer.label; accesskey=integer.accesskey; oncommand=NewPref(nsIPrefBranch.PREF_INT);/ menuitem label=boolean.label; accesskey=boolean.accesskey; oncommand=NewPref(nsIPrefBranch.PREF_BOOL);/ /menupopup /menu menuitem id=resetSelected label=reset.label; accesskey=reset.accesskey; oncommand=ResetSelected();/ /menupopup keyset id=configTreeKeyset disabled=true key keycode=VK_ENTER oncommand=ModifySelected();/ key keycode=VK_RETURN oncommand=ModifySelected();/ key key=focusSearch.key; modifiers=accel oncommand=document.getElementById('textbox').focus();/ /keyset deck id=configDeck flex=1 vbox id=warningScreen flex=1 align=center style=overflow: auto; spacer flex=1/ hbox id=warningBox align=top image id=exclam/ vbox id=warningInnerBox flex=1 label id=warningTitleaboutWarningTitle.label;/label label id=warningTextaboutWarningText.label;/label checkbox id=showWarningNextTime label=aboutWarningCheckbox.label; checked=true/ hbox pack=center button id=warningButton oncommand=ShowPrefs(); label=aboutWarningButton.label;/ /hbox /vbox /hbox spacer flex=2/ /vbox vbox flex=1 hbox id=filterRow align=center label value=searchPrefs.label; accesskey=searchPrefs.accesskey; control=textbox/ textbox id=textbox flex=1 type=search class=compact aria-controls=configTree oncommand=FilterPrefs();/ /hbox tree id=configTree flex=1 seltype=single onselect=updateCommands('select'); enableColumnDrag=true context=configContext treecols treecol id=prefCol label=prefColumn.label; flex=7 ignoreincolumnpicker=true persist=hidden width ordinal sortDirection/ splitter class=tree-splitter / treecol id=lockCol label=lockColumn.label; flex=1 persist=hidden width ordinal sortDirection/ splitter class=tree-splitter / treecol id=typeCol label=typeColumn.label; flex=1 persist=hidden width ordinal sortDirection/ splitter class=tree-splitter / treecol id=valueCol label=valueColumn.label; flex=10
Re: printing jpeg slides to a Postscript printer
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I have 10 jpeg slides (screen shoots) and I want to print them to a Postscript printer (CUPS controlled), on each page 2 slides. I know I could make some presentation from them or wrap them into a HTML file, but I was thinking there must be some easy way with some tool from our ports. Any idea? Thanks in advance I'll take that Any at face value. Did you check your printer's manual? Many printers these days can print photos stand-alone. The least hassle option might to be to load your photos on a card or memory stick, and use your printer's stand-alone functions, since I gather from your question that you are not embedding the photos in some larger document. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text format
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, pwnedomina wrote: On 12-06-2012 08:22, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:06:07 +0100, i pwn wrote: on groff i've used this cmd to format the text groff -Tascii normal.txt | sed 's/^/ /'$1 formatted.txt on nroff what would be the cmd? Depending on your input data, I'd say the same command: groff -Tascii normal.txt formatted.txt. But you need to test this yourself with your input text format. See man nroff for details. For using roff macros, man 7 mdoc has a nice summary. im only asking what cmd should i use to format an ascii text to be identical to that one, centered and aligned.. I do not believe there is one. It seems to me there were some DOS amusement programs that would do this, and you might find one and run it in dosbox. There is very little demand for fully justified monospaced text because it is extremely ugly, hard to read, and error prone. Nonetheless, OpenOffice appears able to do this and so can MS-Word. I suspect many others can without the necessity of writing your own macro. There may be modules in perl and other scripting languages that might be helpful. Rivers are very difficult to avoid, but as Matthew suggests, you might start with fmt and fix up the output with whatever scripting language you know. If you could find a good hyphenation routine you might get better results. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: note
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Arlen McIntyre wrote: I have a ASUS laptop that came with Windows 7. I finally ended up with XP on one partition and Ubuntu on the other. ASUS only supports the Windows 7 OS with this particular architect. I want to keep XP on one partition and put FreeBSD on the other partition ( I already have created). The problem is that the files I see for installation are ISO files for booting. I don't have audio in XP but it worked in Ubuntu. I was told by an authorized ASUS dealer that I would not find any support from them because of switching from the pre-installed Windows 7. I cannot update the drivers in the BIOS to tell my laptop to boot from DVD/CD. Really? What happens when you press F2 and keep it down during boot? How can I get FreeBSD on my other partition and have a dual OS system without the boot installation? I cannot afford to buy FreeBSD. FreeBSD is not for sale. It is free. Some services will sell releases on CD or DVD, generally at very affordable prices which are well worth it compared to downloading by dial-up. But what those services are selling is the media and the service of copying FreeBSD to the media and getting the media into your hands. You can download and/or install FreeBSD for free. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: altfn going to X
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: What's the trick to allow altfn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. KVM does not allow VT switching (at last report), but changes are promised. Otherwise, in an xterm (or other terminal in X) dump xmodmap in its reloadable form: $xmodmap -pke foo.txt now you can edit foo.txt as you please. This is mine with ctrl-alt-Fn mapped to VT_switching. keycode 67 = F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1 XF86Switch_VT_1 keycode 68 = F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 F2 XF86Switch_VT_2 You may want, for example: keycode 67 = F1 F1 F1 F1 XF86Switch_VT_1 F1 F1 keycode 68 = F2 F2 F2 F2 XF86Switch_VT_2 F2 F2 when you have finished editing, save this file to .xmodmap because you used -pke and were careful in your editing, this can be loaded by your window manager. In fvwm2 that loading looks like: + I exec xmodmap .xmodmap as in, for example: DestroyFunc InitFunction AddToFunc InitFunction + I Module FvwmBanner + I exec xphoon + I exec xmodmap .xmodmap + I exec xmodmap -e keysym Num_Lock = Num_Lock Pointer_EnableKeys + I exec xclipboard You can also load .xmodmap by running $xmodmap .xmodmap in an xterm. But you almost certainly want it loaded automatically (as in the fvwm2 example above), but how to do this in your particular window manager you will have to discover from the documentation of your window manger. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: altfn going to X
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: On 06/10/12 10:47, Gary Aitken wrote: What's the trick to allow altfn to still be used to switch vtys when running X? At first I thought it was the wm grabbing it, but I've disabled that and now it goes to whatever app has the focus. Seems like something in the kernel has to grab it before it gets passed on to X. I see it's ctlaltfn when in X. However, once out of X on another vty, switching to the vty where X was started does not get me back to X. How do I get back to the X display which is running? Oh, you have to swith to the vtty where X is running, which certainly is NOT where you started X. Look in /etc/ttys for a line like this: ttyvb /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemonxterm off secure The above is not standard on installation, so probably the 'ttyv?' is different. The ? is the ttyv number (in hex) where your X should be running - BUT the hex number start at 0 (zero) while your F keys start with 1. For example, the above says X should run in ttyv b = 11 decimal, but that is associated with F12 (so that F1 can be mapped to ttyv0). It is possible to run some gui programs like zgv without a terminal, but in that case there is no way to switch terminals into or out of them. You can only launch them and quit them. Maybe (or not) X could run like that if you did not have a dedicated ttyv set up in /etc/ttys. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: driver for cell phone modem
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Fbsd8 wrote: Running 9.0 and thinking about changing to this verizon model 551L usb cell phone modem. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?\ item=phoneFirstaction=viewPhoneDetailselectedPhoneId=5632 Your link does not lead to specific information about this device. However, I gather it is a LTE device, which is good because at least some are supported (whereas no WiMax devices are supported). Moreover, the promise of Linux and Mac 10.4+ compatibility seems a positive sign. But I can't find anything that flatly says it will work with FreeBSD. Have you considered a mobile (or base station) hotspot? Since these will connect with up to five wi-fi devices, and you can almost certainly find a dongle that will work with your ethernet card, maybe you should take a look at them. It's a usb plugin cell modem for internet access. Before I go through the purchase and signup process I want to verify Freebsd has a driver that works with this 4G cell device. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: umount device busy
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have recognized and avoided that. That's what I kept thinking. Backed out of all su ops, checked all xterms; nada. no other vtys opened. In any case, the mount was done after X was started, and switching vtys crashes X so I don't do that. This needs fixing. I thought maybe so, but didn't know for sure. Thanks. But Lars' mount -p is more assuring. I like it because if you happen to have a configuration you would like to use again, you can capture the output and make it your fstab, + or - automount adjustments. 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex Where does it go if not to stdout? You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite understand. Otherwise -x thinks the /mnt/goflex belongs to it. But what if you leave out ALL the stuff after -x. Isn't it redundant with the +d switch? (That's not a Socratic question: I don't know.) Anyway, I found the lsof FAQ by make extract in the port. I quess I am not too good at reading Makefiles because I don't see why it isn't copied to /usr/local/share/lsof with the README and whatnot. man -t lsof | sp2ascii savefile.txt Where'd you get/find sp2ascii? I don't see one anywhere, not even on google. (Except this thread...) Secret weapon? That's a good question. Turns out all kinds of ps converters are installed by ghostscript. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: umount device busy
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012, Gary Aitken wrote: Something I'm overlooking here and a lot of questions I can't seem to find the answers to... I mounted a usb drive mount -t ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/goflex Then, as nearly as I can remember... I then poked around a bit using the xfce4 browser. I tried to mkdir from the mount point as a normal user: cd /mnt/goflex %mkdir breakaway mkdir: .: No such file or directory After checking write premissions, which I didn't have, I did an su -l and tried again, with the same results. I then tried to unmount the drive, believing it was mounted read-only: #umount /mnt/goflex umount: unmount of /mnt/goflex failed: Device busy This almost always means someone (i.e. you) is sitting in the directory. If you tried this while su'ed and the un-su'ed you were still in the directory /mnt/goflex, you'd get this message. This may also happen if someone (i.e. you) is in the directory on another vtty. Naturally it can also mean some operation is in progress, but generally you would have recognized and avoided that. As nearly as I can tell, I don't have anything pointing at that drive. As I said, were you in the directory when you su'd? If so, you need to drop back and get out before you su again an umount. Questions: 1. What does the No such file or directory mean from mkdir? It's a relative dir name, and I'm sitting at a valid dir. You did not provide a history with this problem, but generally it means some part of the path before the last does not exist. I get it for using a leading /, when I meant a relative path, or not using the leading slash when I meant an absolute path -- and of course for misspelling some part of the path. 2. How do I find out how the file-system was mounted? mount (noargs) does not show read/write status Did you try $mount -p ? 3. I tried lsof but I don't get any output from it: lsof +d /mnt/goflex -x -- /mnt/goflex Where does it go if not to stdout? You've got me! But why is there anything after -x? I don't quite understand. 4. lsof has a *long* man page, so I'd like to save it temporarily so I can search it in an editor. If I do man lsof temp.tmp the output contains backspace sequences which screw up searching. How do I get man to produce plain text without the control sequences? man -t lsof | sp2ascii savefile.txt 5. The lsof man page references a faq which is supposed to be part of the distribution. find . -ls | grep lsof doesn't show any faq. I can't find it either, but I don't know why the above did not show /usr/local/share/lsof . /usr/local/share is where to look for such things, and /usr/local/share/doc is generally where any docs that are install are / found. 6. And finally, any idea why umount says the device is busy? Answered above. When you su, where you may go while su'd has no effect on where you left yourself. You (as a normal user) are still on the mounted directory so the mounted device is busy. You have to drop back (exit su) and move out of the device before you can umount it. Seems like I should have been able to find the answer to at least one of those but I'm coming up short. Thanks for relevant pointers, -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to rollback xorg to working tty switch
I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked. I'm dead in the water when stuck in x.org. How do I do that? I suppose the whole ports tree has to go back since x.org drags in a bunch of stuff without doing anything itself. I'm on 8.3 amd64. PS: the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU switch does not exist anymore because nouveau doesn't exist anymore. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Connect to Clear hub modem
On Wed, 23 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012, Lars Eighner wrote: Whoops! By imaginary, I meant not really on the internet, but in 198.168.x.x block reserved for private netting. This combination of things seems to work in rc.conf: network_interfaces=lo0 re0 That is normally not needed. ifconfig=DCHP ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.15.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 These are variable assignments, and the second line overwrites the value assigned by the first. The first alone is preferable because DHCP will do other setup, like the route and resolve.conf. Actually, it seems DCHP won't do it alone. But doing without DCHP does work. Since I gather DCHP the other stuff can introduce contradictions, I'm doing without DCHP until I understand this better. If I can get x.org to work with tty switching again, I'll further investigate the combinations. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Connect to Clear hub modem
On Thu, 24 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: Looking at the code above again, there's an error. The first line is not going to do anything (I think, rc.conf has surprised me before). It should have the interface name. So either of these two lines should work: ifconfig_re0=DHCP or ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.15.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 I am only following up here because someday someone may find this thread in the archives. We are talking about the Clear hub modem (which is for wireless but can be connect by ethernet cable). ifconfig_re0=DHCP doesn't work. Possibly because the hub so far as I can get it to reveal itself is running DHCP itself. This does work: network_interfaces=lo0 re0 ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.15.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 defaultrouter=192.168.15.1 If they were both having DHCP, could some kind of race condition result, where they are dynamically reassigning each other? I don't know. I'm guessing at any rate, if you can firmly deliver the local machine to the tender mercies of the Clear hub, it will take over everything. Okay, so I can't explain it, but works convinces me. Perhaps as I move to the wireless side some light will be shed. I gather the ethernet cable connection is supposed to be the bullet-proof fallback for this device. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch
On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked. I'm dead in the water when stuck in x.org. Maybe putting Option DontVTSwitchfalse in Section ServerFlags or /etc/X11/xorg.conf helps? Of course not or - of. Maybe it belongs to section ServerLayout, I'm not sure, it changes quite often which options are supported and where they have to be placed. :-) Doesn't seem to help, and also it appears from my researches that is not assignable, but like make options, if it present it is true but there is no way to make it false. And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in both directions). portdowngrade does not really provide much help for meta ports, but I took a flier and rolled xorg-server back to 1.7.5,1 and this sort of worked (mapped tty changing to shift-Fx - not my first choice, but makes life possible. portdowngrade x11/xorg -s :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs (Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.) -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch
On Thu, 24 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote: And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in both directions). portdowngrade x11/xorg -s :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs (Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.) That was such a great idea, I also just tried it. For me at least it is not that alt-ctrl-Fn does not switch, it does. What is does not do is connect to the monitor except for alt-ctrl-F9. So in the absence of a crash I can: alt-ctrl-F1 - get a blank screen with the monitor displaying no signal alt-ctrl-F2 - same thing sometimes required (for me) to make the next one work alt-ctrl-F9 - back to my desktop In the event of a crash I am fairly far up the creek. No errors are logged anywhere. I installed 9.0-RELEASE #0 and then did a pkg_add for Xorg. In my case I would not think there is anything to backup to. I did not see any PRs with this symptom. A similar one was deemed user error as I recall. Google finds a few similar complaints. The latest xorg switches to and from console with my Radeon 4650. It might be a problem specific to the newer version of the Intel video driver. It is definitely a problem for (at least some of) those with Intel chips, but at least for me the VESA driver did not fix the tty switching problem. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Connect to Clear hub modem
On Wed, 23 May 2012, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue May 22 23:03:03 2012 Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:58:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Connect to Clear hub modem This is NOT a wireless question. I am running FreeBSD 8.3-p1. I want to connect to Clear Wireless Internet. I know I cannot do this with a Clear dongle, because Clear uses WiMax which is not supported. Instead I have a Clear hub modem. I want to connect by ethernet to it by wire. I get this from ifconfig: re0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC ether 40:61:86:e9:96:0e media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active But I don't have a clue what to do from here. The hub is supposed to have a web page at (imaginary address) 192.168.15.1, but I haven't been able to raise it. Whoops! By imaginary, I meant not really on the internet, but in 198.168.x.x block reserved for private netting. This combination of things seems to work in rc.conf: network_interfaces=lo0 re0 ifconfig=DCHP ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.15.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 defaultrouter=192.168.15.1 This seems to be the basic setup for all Clear hub modems for fixed locations. It may or may not be a step in the right direct for Clear mobile hotspot type modems. I also added the nameservers that the hub told me about to resolv.conf although it is not clear to me that this is consulted. tun0 will stomp all over this configuration (which is, as a reminder, wire ethernet connection to Clear hub-modem) and pppoe is not pertinent on your side anyway. It is much simpler than I thought. You can leave /etc/ppp/ppp.conf alone in case you have to drop back - just don't invoke tunX in rc.conf. Also part of the learning experience before the original question: ethernet cables are not created equal. Use the one that comes in the modem box (four wire), not some two-wire cable you have lying around. Later today, dongles that will work with FreeBSD are expected to arrive, so we will see whether it is possible to get wireless connections to the Clear hub modem. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Connect to Clear hub modem
This is NOT a wireless question. I am running FreeBSD 8.3-p1. I want to connect to Clear Wireless Internet. I know I cannot do this with a Clear dongle, because Clear uses WiMax which is not supported. Instead I have a Clear hub modem. I want to connect by ethernet to it by wire. I get this from ifconfig: re0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=209bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_MAGIC ether 40:61:86:e9:96:0e media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active But I don't have a clue what to do from here. The hub is supposed to have a web page at (imaginary address) 192.168.15.1, but I haven't been able to raise it. The handbook has only a couple of references to ethernet, neither of which seem to apply here, and seem to be from the point of view of setting up a hub server, but the hub is more or less a black box to me. If anyone has already done this, please explain -- slowly and loudly. Oh, yeah, Clear Customer Service is strictly for the entertainment of masochists. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: First character typed lost
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Warren Block wrote: On a Gateway ML6732 notebook, FreeBSD 9-stable is working great. Video works (i915), sound works, the only thing that isn't quite right is that the first character typed after the FreeBSD kernel loads is lost. After that, it works normally. This makes entering a passphrase more challenging. These are total shots in the dark: 1. It is entirely normal (and generally thought desirable) for the screensaver to swallow the first character when it is running -- see if this is worth further investigation by changing screensavers or disabling it altogether. 2. check /etc/issue to see if there is a trailing ANSI sequence that might eat a character. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: converting UTF-8 to HTML
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 22/04/2012 10:17, Erik Nørgaard wrote: UTF-8 is variable with, ascii characters are stored as single bytes (not sure about iso-8859-1) while other characters are stored as two byte chars. ascii uses the low 128 values that you can assign to an unsigned char, ie. those where the high-order bit is zero. Programming a text-only display to assume everything is UTF-8 would be quite viable, and backwardly compatible with ascii-only displays. The hardware doesn't exist to display UTF-8 characters in text MODE. The whole point of avoiding GUIs is rasterized and GUI fonts cannot put 4000 characters on a screen as legibly as VGA does (not to mention the performance hit the rasterization and GUIs deliver). One look at recent Linux distributions which make it all but impossible to reach text MODE because they had the thought that sticking a rasterized white-on-black font on the screen (via yet another kernel module) would be just as good as VGA should amply demonstrate the point. Yeah, you need that crap if you are running a server in Outer Fubaristan where there are 38 languages written in 49 different alphabets -- but crippling text mode is not worth while for most people, especially people who work in text. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: converting UTF-8 to HTML
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, Erik Nørgaard wrote: When characters show up wrong in the users browser it's usually because the browser is set to use a non-UTF-8 charset by default such as windows-1252, the web server sends the charset=ascii in the http header and there is no or incorrect meta tag to resolve the problem. Non UTF-8 charsets are a leftover from last millenia that we sometimes still choke on .. sorry the rant ;) UTF-8 is a waste of storage for most people and is incompatiple with text-mode tools: it's simple another bid to make it impossible to run without a GUI. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pcre library linking issues
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Aleksandr Miroslav wrote: I inadvertently updated my PCRE library and in the process broke a number of things that depended on the old library. Not the right answer but works: Create a symbolic link in the library so libpcre.so.0 points to libpcre.so.1 The old library should have been moved to a compatibility library so that things that still depended on it could find it. This did not happen for some reason. Fortunately, it appears that libpcre.so.1 is (largely) backwards compatible, so much (all?) of what depended on it will work if fooled by a symbolic link. Some upgrades will wipe out the link so it may be necessary to recreate it until things get straightened out. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD's backwards webdesign / corporate identity
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012, Tony wrote: Satanic 3D-lookalike logo Satanic logo complaints: Hallmark of retarded trolls -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GIMP(1) don't run
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Xavier FreeBSD questions wrote: Hi to all, When I want run GIMP(1) it say: gimp Shared object libpcre.so.0 not found, required by gimp How I can solvent this problem ? Check to see whether you have installed devel/pcre. You almost certainly have. You probably updated devel/pcre either intentionally or by installing something that depended on the new version. UPDATING 20120204 indicates that there is a way to update devel/pcre so that the old shared libraries will be preserved. That, however, does not work. (Does anyone ever test stuff put in UPDATING?) So, in /usr/local/lib make a symbolic link to libpcre.so.1 from libpcre.so.0 . That's not the right answer, but it will work. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /usr/home vs /home (was: Re: One or Four?)
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Daniel Staal wrote: --As of February 17, 2012 11:46:23 PM +0100, Polytropon is alleged to have said: Well, to be honest, I never liked the old style default with /home being part of /usr. As I mentioned before, _my_ default style for separated partitions include: / swap /tmp /var /usr /home In special cases, add /opt or /scratch as separate partitions with intendedly limited sizes. You can see that all user data is kept independently from the rest of the system. It can easily be switched over to a separate home disk if needed. --As for the rest, it is mine. I'm in agreement with you on that I like to have /home be a separate partition, and not under /usr. It seems to me that partition and mount point are being confused to a degree. There is no reason what is mounted at /usr/home cannot be a separate partition as well as if it were mounted at root. There are some good reasons for the user directories (and perhaps some other data) to be on a separate partition - mostly the reasons relate to ease of back up and migration whether planned or emergency. Arguments about where to mount that partition are not so practical, being more in the philosophic and historical realm. Pick one, recognize not everyone will be on the same page and put appropriate links in. (Of course, my current zfs system has 40 partitions...) Partly though I recognize that I like it because that's what I'm used to, and how I learned to set it up originally. (My first unix experience was with OpenBSD, over 10 years ago now.) I've never seen anything listing the main reasons for having /home under /usr though. I figure there must be a decent reason why. Would anyone care to enlighten me? What are the perceived advantages? (Particularly if you then make a symlink to /home.) There may have been a historic reason, but now it is philosophical - trying to keep the system and userland distinction clear. But there are many flaws in the attempted separation. /var for example is the default location for many logs, both system and user, the spools (remember news?), and databases. You really cannot drop /usr into a different system and have an operational result. (I put the home directories, the www directory, databases and spools all on the same physical partition which I mount arbitrarily at /usr/local/data. It isn't exactly plug-n-play, but in tests and emergencies is has proved practical to drop the partition into several linices with a high level of functionally - depending on application versioning being close to in sync.) -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 8.2 (stable) never boots successfully after installkernel/installworld
Hello list, I've been having a recurring problem with my FreeBSD 8.2 stable system: after going through the whole buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/reboot/mergemaster/installworld/mergemaster process, the system no longer boots successfully: the loader reports, Can't work out which disk we are booting from. It looks to my eyes like the zfsloader binary is not getting built correctly: I've been carrying around an older zfsloader in /boot, so that if at the boot prompt I type: /boot/zfsloader.working Everything works out fine. The complete output of the boot process is here: https://twitter.com/#!/larsks/status/148191554278928384/photo/1 Additional details: - This is FreeBSD 8.2 STABLE on amd64 - The kernel (and world) are current as of this afternoon - This has only ZFS filesystems This has been a very frustrating problem, and I'm not sure how to start debugging things. I'd appreciate your help. Thanks, -- Lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libgcrypt SHA256 mismatch?
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Kurt Buff wrote: The source file is being truncated because fetch loses its connection for one reason or another. Many servers now cut you off if you are at dial-up speeds because net fairness means broadband users always go to the front of the line. You can make a shell script to fetch the file and keep running it until you finally get the whole file a piece at a time or you can try ftp. When you have the whole source file (check it against distinfo) place it in /usr/ports/distfiles. Things should go fine. Checksum mismatch nearly always means a truncated file. I cannot ever remember seeing it otherwise. Do not override it with NO_CHECKSUM. That will be useless with a truncated file and worse than useless if a security port really has been tampered with. Interesting. I found out what the problem is, but haven't figured out how to work around it. As a test, I put the URL (http://gnupg.org.favoritelinks.net/libgcrypt/libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2) into a web browser, and found that it's being blocked by our web filter, because the site is marked as also serving adult content. This is absurd unless there is an extremely low bar for adult content such as mention of evolution. It's a wonder you can receive email from me. The supposed tarball in /usr/ports/distfiles is the response from the web filter, so it's junk. After repeated fetches, that is the only site my machine is using to grab the tarball. How to I tell the machine to vary its download sites (if indeed there are alternatives?) In the Makefile I see the line MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_GNUPG} find the GNUPG master sites in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk. Search on GNUPG to find the list of pertinent sites. You can move to a empty work directory. Create a shell script to fetch the file. I use git.sh __ #!/bin/sh fetch -raR URL of file __ The url of the file is the master site with the subdirectory filled in according the Makefile of the port and the file name (find the exact right one in distinfo of the port. Give your script executable permissions and run it. If it seems to work, check sha265 and length of file against distinfo for the port. If you have repeated problems with one site, just substitute the next site in you script. When you have all of the right file, move it to /usr/ports/distfiles. which I'd bet controls how it finds what sites to visit, but don't know anything beyond that. Thanks, Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: libgcrypt SHA256 mismatch?
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011, Kurt Buff wrote: All, I've just spun up a new 8.2-RELEASE VM, and gotten a fresh ports tree. I tried to install XFCE4, but it has ended with an error: ===Verifying install for gcrypt.18 in /usr/ports/security/libgcrypt === License GPLv2 LGPL21 accepted by the user === Extracting for libgcrypt-1.5.0 = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2. === Refetch for 1 more times files: libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2 === License GPLv2 LGPL21 accepted by the user = libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch http://gnupg.org.favoritelinks.net/libgcrypt/libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2 fetch: http://gnupg.org.favoritelinks.net/libgcrypt/libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2: size unknown fetch: http://gnupg.org.favoritelinks.net/libgcrypt/libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2: size of remote file is not known libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2 4634 B 5734 kBps === License GPLv2 LGPL21 accepted by the user = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2. === Giving up on fetching files: libgcrypt-1.5.0.tar.bz2 Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file (/usr/ports/security/libgcrypt/distinfo) are up to date. If you are absolutely sure you want to override this check, type make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args]. Anyone else run into this? The source file is being truncated because fetch loses its connection for one reason or another. Many servers now cut you off if you are at dial-up speeds because net fairness means broadband users always go to the front of the line. You can make a shell script to fetch the file and keep running it until you finally get the whole file a piece at a time or you can try ftp. When you have the whole source file (check it against distinfo) place it in /usr/ports/distfiles. Things should go fine. Checksum mismatch nearly always means a truncated file. I cannot ever remember seeing it otherwise. Do not override it with NO_CHECKSUM. That will be useless with a truncated file and worse than useless if a security port really has been tampered with. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Firefox clean installation but does not execute
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Alain G. Fabry wrote: Hello, I've installed Firefox36 from ports, it installed without a problem but it does not launch. In other words, there's no firefox file on my system. Had it installed before and working, then to clean out the system with unnecessary ports, I removed all ports and reinstalled only what is necessary. Somehow now I can't get firefox to work. The installation runs through cleanly, but when I try to run firefox, the system just responds with 'command not found' fabry@desmo 7:27 % pkg_info | grep firefox firefox-3.6.22,1Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla afabry@desmo 7:28 % firefox firefox: Command not found. What could be the problem, where could I start looking? what happens when you %which firefox3 ? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using ports and packages together (or, how do I get mod_php5 ? )
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Brandon Kuczenski wrote: I'm concerned that, if I have some packages built from ports and some installed from the release, that the system will become unstable if things get too out of sync. I'd like to say it doesn't matter, but ... If you are using packages from the time of 8.2 release, you almost certainly will have trouble using the current (not CURRENT) ports tree for 8.2. With a fresh ports tree study UPDATING. There is quite a lot of reading since 8.2 release. Ruby rolled forth and back, perl has rolled forward etc. You may do better upgrading with packages first before recompiling things you need to recompile. In principle there is nothing wrong with having mixed self-compiled ports and packages. THE MAIN PERILS are letting the ports tree get out of sync with itself. This could happen, for example, if you cvsup and it stops (or is stopped) before it is finished (to deal with that example, redo cvsup and be sure it completes before doing anything with ports); or getting the package database snafued which can happen if you or the electric company interrupt the database update process. Am I incorrect? i.e. should I just go ahead and install libtool 2.4 from the port? I don't see this discussed explicitly in the handbook. The handbook should not have much to say about this. Compiling ports yourself or using packages should leave you in exactly the same place (unless of course you make changes when you compile). The system cannot tell where the binary came from. We have the habit of saying port when we compile from the ports tree and package when install a package - but they are really the same thing at a slightly deeper level. Packages ARE ports. /usr/ports/UPDATING is the key document. I don't see any notes since 8.2 release to suggest libtool backward compatibility problems have cropped up since then. Since more things depend on libtool than you can shake a stick at it is likely to a long time for pkgdb to edit the dependencies in the usual way. Investigating -s might help. PS: installing mod_php is an option which I think is called WITH_APACHE. To be absolutely sure it is set, run make config in php5 port. The config will be saved and some port maintenance tools may assume it is right without prompting you. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: copyrights
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Alan Clements wrote: On the front page of the FreeBSD Handbook the copyright notice reads: Copyright © 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 The FreeBSD Documentation Project This seems excessively long. Is there a reason why it just doesn't simply read: Copyright © 1995-2011 The FreeBSD Documentation Project This seems more readable. The former is running off the end of the page and is starting to look cluttered. Unless there is some legal reason I'm not aware of listing each year in order seems unnecessary. Signatories of the Berne Convention, including the United States and almost all civilized countries, do not require the notice at all. As a reminder to nice people, the shorter form would surely do. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't log in as toor since package update
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Paul Keusemann wrote: I use the toor login on my FreeBSD systems to log in with the korn shell. Since August 22, When I try to log in as toor or even when I try to su - toor, I get logged in as root. For example: ushers# ssh -l toor woodstock Password: Last login: Fri Sep 9 06:30:23 2011 from 172.16.175.216 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p1 (WOODSTOCK) #1: Mon Jul 11 09:05:07 CDT 2011 woodstock# who am i root 0Sep 9 07:46 This has been entirely normal since I have been using toor - sometime around 5.X. Toor is root. If you are not in your korn shell, you should check that it is install and the path is correct in passwd. If you have been running at toor with the thought that somehow it is better than running as root, you are mistaken. You should have a normal user account to use for most everyday tasks. You can put that user in the wheel group if you want to be able to su to root. woodstock# su - toor woodstock# who am i root 0Sep 9 07:47 Unfortunately, I haven't tried to log in since a package update I did around August 22, so I didn't notice this problem until now. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? The fact that user 0 is root to the system. Calling it toor to use an alternate shell does not change that. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
What USB dialup modem WILL work with 8.2?
On the basis of what I now believe was malicious advice, I am out of pocket for a USB US Robotics 56k dialup modem. However, this device attaches as a ugen device. I haven't found a way to make ppp on demand work with it attached that way. I do not load umass because I am using hplip and it must be grabbed by ugen. Otherwise my kernel is generic. However, I would be very surprised that umass is necessary for the modem to attach correctly. So I am asking again: does anyone have a dialup modem of any kind which works correctly on 8.x to provide ppp-on-demand? If so what is it? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What USB dialup modem WILL work with 8.2?
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 8/26/2011 3:21 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote: So I am asking again: does anyone have a dialup modem of any kind which works correctly on 8.x to provide ppp-on-demand? If so what is it? (As for promises about what *will* 100% guaranteed work, which seems to be what you really want, I am afraid I can't give any. It has been several years since I last used a dialup modem, so I don't know for sure what *will* work with todays software, only what should work.) Works for me once umodem is loaded as a kld... bingo. ucom was in my nearly GENERIC conf, so was ubsa and some other modules mentioned. umodem wasn't - and if the line was in GENERIC or NOTES I must have deleted it for some reason instead of commenting it out. Nonetheless, locate reveals it is being built. Works when it is loaded and creates cuaU0. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: From: Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com That's why I sprang for the 3Com which WAS supported by sio for years and is NOT supported by uart since 8.x. Why it is this device could be supported for so many years, but somehow it is impossible on 8.x? The answer is because it *iS*. Whether or not you understand 'why' does't change that real-world FACT. The world changed. The old driver -doesn't- work any more. Because of architectural changes to other parts of the system. It is only natural for me to resist the conclusion that I have wasted years of my time and poured trasure down a rat hole. I'll look at anything, but if I have to buy something, I want to know it is actually IS working with uart, not that sort of should've. *sigh* If it is a USB serial port, it _doesn't_ use the uart driver. And you avoid any limitations that it might have. drop-in repIacement were the exact words used when I asked about it the first time I heard sio was being dropped and was assured uart would be a drop-in replacement. But it is not, so theoretical ought to works are not helpful. I'm looking for really actually does work. You've been told what actually does work. I'm running 8.2 on several machines -- *with* working serial ports that live directly on the legacy ISA bus. Using only the standard kernel drivers. And doing PPP over those ports. I'm not using a modem, just a null-modem cable but I could swap in a pair of _any_ type of hardware modems. Well, see, my question was about dialup, not null modem. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update, fetch once upgrade many machines
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 04:10:30PM +0200, Paul Schenkeveld wrote: Hi, Is it possible to fetch files needed for freebsd-update once and put them on a local fileserver to update many machines? Thanks for the pointers on how to set up my own build servers for freebsd-update but I'm not really interested in building locally, I just want to mirror the releases and patches that we're interested in locally and point freebsd-update at my local mirror. I'm coming in late to this, so this may not be pertinent or may already have been suggested. The cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup if you have installed cvsup, seems to say it will reproduce the entire CVS tree on your machine. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 11:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Since uart in 8.x will not support my PCI 3com hardware modem (as FreeBSD sio has since 4.x) and my PR is gathering dust, before I buy any more coaster sets from osdisc.com, it behooves to ask if there are any dialup modems that 8.x uart actually supports for ppp on demand? Do you have a serial port on your machine? If so, why not go with an external modem? Always worked for me, back in the day. :-) And my internal hardware modem worked for me when there was a serial driver, namely sio. It won't work with 8.x and uart, so there is no reason to think that things that used to work with sio will work with uart. That's my question: what dialup modem is KNOWN to work with uart on 8.x? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Odhiambo Washington wrote: BTW, Lars, which country do you live in? Still no 3G there?? I live in Texas. It has a greed-based economy, so 3G is practically available only for the very greedy, which is to say rich. I do not speak the language of the very greedy - it is a very strange language in which unlimited means not really unlimited but only so much as we think you deserve. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: Even 'sio' support of PCI serial ports and/or modems was -very-limitid. precisely *two* models of cards -- The 3Com FaxModem PCI and the Advantec 56k Voice Messaging PCI FaxModem. That's why I sprang for the 3Com which WAS supported by sio for years and is NOT supported by uart since 8.x. Why it is this device could be supported for so many years, but somehow it is impossible on 8.x? It's not as if dozens of new such devices from dozens of new vendors are flooding the market. It's the same thing it ever was. Supporting serial controllers across a PCI bridge takes lots of work. and does *not* 'generalize' well. If I were in your situation, I'e look at a USB serial port and external RS-232 modem. I'll look at anything, but if I have to buy something, I want to know it is actually IS working with uart, not that sort of should've. Uart should've sort of been a drop-in replacement for sio - drop-in repIacement were the exact words used when I asked about it the first time I heard sio was being dropped and was assured uart would be a drop-in replacement. But it is not, so theoretical ought to works are not helpful. I'm looking for really actually does work. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
What dialup modem WILL work with 8.x and uart?
Okay, I'm back. I sprang for Gentoo and Fedora 15 distribution discs, and now I seem to have a nice, but expensive, set of coasters because apparently all of Linux has gone tiny console fonts at something like 170x48 resolution (and really are turning themselves into Gnome machines that totally neglect command line applications). Since I am in unices for the command line applications I don't have much choice. But I still don't want to be stranded in an orphaned version when 7.x reaches the end of its life. Since uart in 8.x will not support my PCI 3com hardware modem (as FreeBSD sio has since 4.x) and my PR is gathering dust, before I buy any more coaster sets from osdisc.com, it behooves to ask if there are any dialup modems that 8.x uart actually supports for ppp on demand? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new to os
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Aloha Lars, You mentioned WP5 in this thread. I have some docs on disks that were created in WP5. You know any FreeBSD based app like abiword that can read them for transfer to a contemporary program? Do you mean Word Perfect ? Wordperfect-8.0 used to run on FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE was free, while Corel charged for the MS based version ! If I recall correctly, this was a Linux version which ran with Linux compatibility as it was then. Also it only ran with a GUI - the command line version was available for $$$. I have no idea whether it could be persuaded (easily) to run with recent Linux compatibility. I have distfile MD5 (GUILG00.GZ) = 386d2c4c1422992e8f8242bd74f3f705 -r--r--r-- 1 jhs staff 23730473 Mar 12 2002 GUILG00.GZ It got taken out of FreeBSD ports/ some years back. http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/ports/jhs/editors/wordperfect/pkg/README.JHS You might need to either: upgrade port to run it on a new BSD run it on an old machine or emulator of an old FreeBSD Cheers, Julian -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Anyway to mount ext4fs?
Is there any port or other means of mount ext4fs? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new to os
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, scott mcclellan wrote: I'm looking to try something different with my machine (or maybe I'm going through a midlife crisis). Currently run Wimdows (point and click), and would like to gravitate back to DOS (this is a thing of the ancient past for me 30 years - on a TRS-80). I know remember extremely little of OS vernacular. The main problem with DOS is lack of applications. If it was not so, I would be running it myself. You might, for example, still have your copy of WP 5 -- I do. But printers that work with the printer drivers are now museum pieces. There are work-arounds for this sort of thing -- including the hobby of maintaining ancient hardware -- but as for a working machine to do anything practical, there are stumbling blocks like this at every turn. Am I biting off more than I can chew, or is there a OS commands for dummies out there, or does FreeBSD have such a critter that one can go through. Of course there are still many old DOS tutorials online in various archives and some games and stuff. But now you are asking about FreeBSD, I think. One of the virtues of all of the unix-like systems (the BSDs and Linuxices) is that there are many maintained command-line applications, and the basic stuff is well-domuented with the online manual (man command). These applications are very similar from one BSD or Linux system to another, and are often compiled from the same source code. They all have true multiprocessing so you can switch from one command line environment (virtual terminal) to another with a keystroke. They are a little short of command-line (launched) graphics programs (viewers, paint, etc.) but they have a choice of GUIs, some of which are very lightweight, when you have to have graphics, and you can switch between the GUI and a command line virtual terminal with a keystroke. I'll pour through the FAQ and got hrough the online manuals for now. But it all seems greek. Can someone point me in a diresction to degreek this stuff for me. No ONE thing comes to mind. There are some web versions of the man command online, which is a good place to start. But the best thing seems to me is to find some disk space and make a small installation. Start by running #man man and go from there. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: new to os
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Al Plant wrote: Aloha Lars, You mentioned WP5 in this thread. I have some docs on disks that were created in WP5. You know any FreeBSD based app like abiword that can read them for transfer to a contemporary program? I don't know of anything. If I recall correctly, abiword could open such files but made mincemeat of them - perhaps some progress has been made since I last tried. Since I still have my copy of WP5, I run it in dosbox and re-export file to a more widely supported format. This is subject to the limitations of the time, so the conversion of special characters and formating is iffy and tables are almost guaranteed to be a mess. I believe there is a dummy print driver for WP6DOS which prints WP6 documents to disc in pdf or ghostscript which can subsequently be printed to paper (or converted) with modern tools. There might be something similar for WP5, but in both cases this depends on having the original WP program to run in dosbox. Since intellectual property puts meat on my family's table, I naturally would not suggest that pirate copies of WP5 might be on the web somewhere. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISO images
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Rui Silva wrote: Hi, I want to install FreeBSD for the first time but I have some doubts regarding the ISO images. I have downloaded an ISO image (FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso) via torrent, but soon realised that the packages collection was very poor when compared to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/packages/; Is there any complete ISO image that includes all the packages I saw in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.2-RELEASE/packages/;? That would be really nice. Of course there is not because no media appropriate to an ISO image could contain such an ISO. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: more information
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, zareena crisostomo wrote: Please help me with my research work..I'm working on Freebsd as my OS. Tnx. And you attach a Word document? Your scam stinks to high heaven. Zareena C. Bohol -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sio won't compile in 8.2
Although the code for sio appears to be in 8.2 (or at least cvsup does not delete) but it does not compile - apparently owing to a missing tty related library or a version difference. Since there does not appear to be any likelihood that uart will be fixed, I figure I will be stuck in 7.4 forever. But what does that mean in the not too distant future when 7.4 is no longer supported? Is there some way to prepare for that eventuality? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to add sio to 8.2 ?
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: I've come to the conclusion that I need sio to be able to use 8.x. Can it be as simple as just dropping the code from 7.x into the source for 8.x and adding a line to the kernel configuration? Or would this be fraught with all kinds of deep traps? sio(4) was replaced by uart(4) as part of the Giant retirement. Depending on what you need that uart(4) does not currently have, it might be easier to improve uart(4) than to resurrect sio(4). In the meantime I actually answered my own question. sio is in the source code for 8.2 (or at least it was not deleted by cvsup). It certainly appears that it is only necessary to add device sio to the kernel configuration. I have not actually compiled it yet. I think I might have to remove uart to keep it from grabbing the COMM devices. uart cannot properly identify the only internal hardware dial-up modem still obtainable (and incorrectly identifies its chip) --- the one we all had to buy to run FreeBSD. Whether its inability to handle dial-up PPP on demand is the fault of the new TTY set up (as some have suggested) can only really be determined by seeing if sio can function in the same environment, but that uart authors overlooked a piece of hardware required for years in FreeBSD sort of suggests that perhaps they overlooked other things. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Tools to find unlegal files ( videos , music etc )
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, C. P. Ghost wrote: Speaking with my university sysadmin hat on: you're NOT allowed to peek inside personal files of your users, UNLESS the user has waived his/her rights to privacy by explicitly agreeing to the TOS and there's legal language in the TOS that allows staff to inspect files (and then staff needs to abide by those rules in a very strict and cautious manner). So unless the TOS are very explicit, a sysadmin or an IT head can get in deep trouble w.r.t. privacy laws. Yes, but I am not an expert on privacy laws in France, and I suspect you are not either. Whether examining the magic number (first four bytes) of a file constitutes a breach of privacy is a matter for legal advice applicable to the particular jurisdiction. You certainly can look at the external package: file size and name. You may want to look for files that are unusually large. They could possibly be ISOs, dvdrips, HD movie dumps... Not to forget encrypted RAR files (which btw. could contain anything, including legitimate content, so be careful here). We have the same problem here with users sharing movies on the file servers, and what makes it worse is some of their movie files are legit because they're, for example, official trailers that are reworked and redistributed to our customers. You won't win this, tell your boss it can not be done. What can technically be done is that the copyright owner provides a list of hashes for his files, and requests that you traverse your filesystems, looking for files that match those hashes. AND, even then, all you can do is flag the files, and you'll have to check with the user that he/she doesn't own a license permitting him/her to own that file! You cannot generate a hash without at a certain automated level opening the file. If you can do that, couldn't you generate a hash of the first four bytes to match with hashes of known magic numbers? If you can look at the whole file, surely you can look at just the first four bytes. Of course software cannot determine legal issues, such as whether works are properly licensed or are pornographic according to local legislation, etc. However, even that isn't foolproof: nothing prevents a user from flipping a bit or two, rescaling, resampling, splitting the files into multiple files in a non-obvious manner, adding random bytes at the end etc...: the result would still be infringing, but can't be detected automatically (at least not in a reasonable amount of time). This is a bit like security. There is no absolute that can be achieved. You don't have to be smarter than God, you just have to be smarter than the users. Now the whole point of infringing schemes is that most dumb users have to be able to use the files they download. They can reasonablely do things like rename the files or pass them through a commonly available decoder. No point in trying to file share if users have to be the NSA to play the music. You can scan (where legal) for the common stuff. You can't find stuff encoded by Dr. Evil Genius Hacker -- but neither can the party claiming to be infringed and neither can Suzie Shebop who just wants free music. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to add sio to 8.2 ?
I've come to the conclusion that I need sio to be able to use 8.x. Can it be as simple as just dropping the code from 7.x into the source for 8.x and adding a line to the kernel configuration? Or would this be fraught with all kinds of deep traps? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: compat directory
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: It may be a stupid question but my FreeBSD-8.2 system lacks a /compat directory. Is this normal? does it get installed through some kind of software package? check /usr/ports/misc/ for the various compat?x ports. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Two Networks on one System
This, in of itself, doesn't follow. In the absence of stateful firewalls and anti-spoofing filtering (blocking packets that don't have a source IP address on the expected list), While I can't comment on anyone else's environment, it is in my experience very common in most corporate and educational settings for routers to have anti-spoofing rules that will drop anything with an ip address that does not originate on the local subnet. -- Lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Two Networks on one System
When I set up the secondary interface, I have not been able to come up with a statement or statements that tell fxp1 that it's default router is y.y.y.y so you can't ever reach it from outside the new subnet. What you want to do is called policy routing or source routing, since you want to select a route based on your local address. While I've done this frequently under Linux, I've never had to set this up on a FreeBSD system. It looks like you would do this through the pf subsystem...unfortunately, openbsd.org appears to be down right now, and that appears to be the repository for the pf documentation. Look at the ROUTING section of the pf.conf(5) man page. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sed argument processing b0rked?
sed -i'' -e 's/^\(REVOKE ALL ON SCHEMA public FROM \)postgres/\1pgsql/' \ ? -e 's/^\(GRANT ALL ON SCHEMA public TO \)postgres/\1pgsql/' \ ? /tmp/pgdump sed: -e: No such file or directory If you put a space after -i: sed -i '' ... It will work. The '-i' option takes an argument, and if you put a null argument right next to it, with no spaces, the shell doesn't see anything there. That is, this: -i'' Is exactly equivalent to this: -i Which means that sed is consuming the following argument as the extension...so the first '-e' is the argument to the '-i' option. -- Lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sed argument processing b0rked?
Aha... I knew it had to be something. I couldn't quite wrap my head around the idea that sed is misbehaving.. it seems way too old and set in its ways for that. However, I did get the -i'' syntax from somewhere.. perhaps it's a GNUism and I just forgot where I picked it up. In GNU sed, the -i option does not require an argument, so sed -i -e 's/a/b/' -e 's/c/d/' ... is legal syntax. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /etc/rc.d/jail using new-style jail command?
To the originator of this thread - do give qjail a try - it's very good. I'll definitely give it a look! Thanks for the suggestion/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: copying hard drives
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, David Banning wrote: 2. I'd like a simple way to copy - my FreeBSD system to another drive - a clone so to speak - which I know dd can do - Won't reliably leave you with an operable system. Use dump and restore -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable=YES culprit
On Sat, 14 May 2011, Rob Clark wrote: After restarting X, prior to any reboot, I lost the mouse in X. So I figured a reboot was in order. This is almost certainly HAL. If you do not know you need HAL for something, mark the hal and hal-info ports FORBIDDEN (set FORBIDDEN to any value in the Makefiles) whenever you update your ports tree. Grep /var/db/ports for hal and then remove the with hal option in the affected ports using make config. Force reinstall the affected ports. Try to pkg_delete hal, to check for dependencies you haven't resolved. When all the dependencies are removed, then remove hal. Some digging around revealed that I had the following line in /etc/rc.conf twice: moused_enable=YES I removed one of these (which I guess was the culprit) and left one as it should have been, then all was well. Keyboard found at reboot, no further issues -- mouse was available in X too. I have no idea why I had moused_enable=YES in there twice, whether it was from an old or recent rc.conf edit, but it clearly seems to have been causing the issue. This cannot be. Once or a million times should have exactly the same effect. Commonly ports, people, and sysinstall just add stuff to the end of this file. They add everything they know they need because only the last of similar entries has effect. rc.conf can become unwieldly over time because of this. It is safe to delete duplicate entries, but that should not affect the result. When the same value is assigned differing values only the last is effective. The defaults are in /etc/defaults/rc.conf which should never be edited. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS performance strangeness
Hi, thanks to all who answered. * Damien Fleuriot wrote: I refer you to this post by Jeremy Chadwick with tuning values *AND* their actual explanation. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-February/061642.html Good post indeed, but i think i found my problem elsewhere, though i have to admit that i don't really understand what is happening. The Citrix XenServers 5.6 boxes are connected with 2x1GB, using bonding with balance-slb, to an HP ProCurve 2910al-24G Switch. It seems this balance-slb mode is patch from Citrix and i could not come up with some documentation for it. Only thing i know it is a modified form of balance-alb. The FreeBSD box is also connected to this switch with two NICs, one em and one igb driven NIC. If i do not use lagg and assign just a single address to one of the NICs on FBSD, everything works well. I do only set vm.kmem_size_scale and vfs.zfs.arc_max and get r/w speed of a little bit above 100MB/s when doing: dd bs=1M count=4096 ... and remounting before reading or writting. But if i do use lagg in loadbalance or in lacp mode (here also enabled lacp on the necessary switch ports) i see via a tcpdump, that ip packets seem to get lost!? On top of that this only happens when reading data via NFS, writting is fine. Then again lagg in failover mode seems to work ok. The NICs themself look fine and are automatically set to 1000baseT full duplex. There are also no errors reported via netstat. I am not sure if the switch does not like playing with the arp addresses on its ports or if it has something to do with the slb implementation from citrix. When i have a downtime for the xenserver i will reconfigure it to use lacp, then lets see if that works. cheers --lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS performance strangeness
Hi, There are quite a few threads about ZFS and performance difficulties, but i did not find anything that really helped :) Therefor any advice would be highly appreciated. I started to use ZFS with 8.1R, only tuning i did was setting vm.kmem_size_scale=1 vfs.zfs.arc_max=4M The machines are supermicro boards with 48 GB ECC RAM and 15k RPM SAS drives. Local read/write performance was and is great. But exporting via NFS was a mixed bag in 8.1R. Generally r/w speed over NFS was ok, but large reads or writes took ages. Most of the reads and writes were small, so i did not bother. Now i upgraded one machine to 8.2R and i get very good write performance over NFS but read performance drops to a ridiciously low value, around 1-2 MB/s. While writes are around 100MB/s. The network is a dedicated 1GB Ethernet. The zpool uses RAIDZ1 over 7 drives, one vdev. The filesystem has compression enabled. Turning it off made no difference AFAICT Now i tried a few of the suggested tunables and my last try was this vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=5 vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1 vfs.zfs.txg.synctime=2 fs.zfs.vdev.min_pending=1 fs.zfs.vdev.max_pending=1 still no luck. Writting is fast, reading is not. Even with enabled prefetching. The only thing i noticed is, that reading for example 10MB is fast (on a freshly mounted fs) but when reading larger amounts, i.e. couple hundred MBs, the performance drops and zpool iostat or iostat -x show that there is not much activity on the zpool/hdds. It seems as if ZFS does not care that someone wants to read data, also idle time of the reading process happily ticks up and gets higher and higher!? When trying to access the file during this time, the process blocks and sometimes is difficult to kill, i.e. ls -la on the file. I read and write with dd and before read tests i umount and mount the NFS share again. dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/bla size=1M count=X dd if=/mnt/bla of=/dev/null size=1M count=Y mount is done with this options from two centos 5 boxes: rw,noatime,tcp,bg,intr,hard,nfsvers=3,noacl,nocto thanks --lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Krutov Mikle wrote: On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 03:32:59PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global default? Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without having a configuration switch? Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. Hi Ivan! As for me, it is like a habit: I've installed Xorg + HAL for the first time; I've seen that my config is ignored; I disabled HAL by-default in make.conf :) Setting FORBIDDEN in the HAL port helps to avoid accidentally installing hal as can easily happen. The gstreamer plugin pseudoports have something that installs hal and breaks Firefox so any mouse click kills it. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Jerry wrote: Now, as far as HAL goes, the fragmented open-source community cannot even begin to agree on its replacement. Every distro is busy trying to reinvent the wheel. Here you want the majority of users to be dictated to by a minority of users who cannot even agree on a common platform that is uniformly used throughout all the non-Microsoft community. That reasoning is totally irrational. Well you know if HAL were made to work without breaking essential stuff, no one would say a word against it. Unfortunately it was put together by egos too big to make corrections to their beautiful code. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Character shortcuts
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear FreeBSD experts, There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special characters like (ñ) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp Several (all?) shells (bash, for one) and many editors will allow you to enter character codes if you hold the ALT key down and enter three decimal digits using the numeric key pad with the number lock on (not the number keys in the row above the letter keys). The problem is that what character you see varies according to what font you are using and what character set you declare. Freebsd keymaps are fairly easy to understand, and characters you use frequently can be assigned to key combinations that are easy to remember if you wish -- but you will not get the results you expect unless the character is where you expect it to be in the screen font you are using. For Western European languages, if you want the Euro, iso-8859-15 (aka Latin9) is perhaps your best choice. The Euro replaces the squashed bug from iso-8859-1. Both of these support, for example, Spanish. You can choose a Spanish keymap which will make available characters you are likely to want (tilde n and N, for examples) as single strokes on your keyboard. Of course it won't change the keycaps on a keyboard manufactured for US use, but you can learn the keys or paint over the keycaps if it is your own keyboard. For example, tilde N/n is often the key marked :/; on keyboards made for the US. The problem with console (VGA, text) fonts is that hardware to support more than 256 characters AT ONE TIME is not generally available. To get more characters at one time you have to draw the characters graphically, which is to say, you have to use a GUI. This is why a Windows font (or Xorg) font can have many more characters - because they draw characters instead of setting them in the video card. DOS is just as limited as the FreeBSD console, so comparing Windows to the FreeBSD console is as unfair as comparing Xorg fonts to DOS. accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. But the characters after 127 are not printable :( using the pr-ascii script from http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/wrapper.html Because there are no ASCII characters above 127. ASCII is a seven-bit standard. 127 is the greatest number that can be expressed in seven bits. VGA supports 8-bit character sets, but no 8-bit character set is ASCII. u + 00F1 is the ñ,but I don't know which key combination gives the same results as above. ALT+241 should work in iso-8859-1 (does not have the Euro) and iso-8859-15 (has the Euro). Gui editors that support unicode generally allow you to select characters that are not on the keyboard from a grid. Those editors may or may not have short cuts for character you use frequently. A script/program(C,C++) that would generate the characters would be nice, but if there is a key combination that could be used to generate the special letters. Thanks in Advance, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best practices on upgrading, etc.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I'm trying to fully understand the whole FBSD version thing and when, if , and why you should consider upgrading. I have a production server running FBSD 8.1 (and I'm following the errata branch) that works just fine, with no problems. I see that the Production Release of 8.2 is available. Obviously, 8.2 has features that 8.1 does not, but I guess my primary questions is: 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features in the new release that you want/need? I guess what I'm really asking is if it makes more sense to take the if it aint broke - don't fix it mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version is released??? Even with backups, upgrades can be troublesome. Read the release notes. I suggest you have a reason for upgrading in mind -- other than that the number got bumped, and this goes double for a production maching. 2.) If I DO upgrade, I can simply change my supfile to RELENG_8_2 and then: The correct order is given in /usr/src/UPDATING. Do not rely on the following comments, but consult /usr/src/UPDATING. run csup upgrade the ports Update the ports tree and ports after the OS. Otherwise, you may have to do it twice. This is not especially likely in a minor version bump, but it can happen. make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel make kernel combines the above two steps. Then as single user run mergemaster -p. make installworld then run mergermaster and delete old if you please. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HAL must die!
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global default? Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without having a configuration switch? Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It breaks my mouse and keyboard. I assume it would break other stuff if I had esoteric devices. It was born broken, and although there have been about a half-dozen announced fixes, it always reverts to being broken in pretty much the same way. When I eliminate HAL and everything that depends on it, everything works. It is just this simple: with HAL = nothing works without HAL = everything works It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. I'm not running a cross-platform. I'm running FreeBSD. There were native FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Bug report marked [regression]
If my bug report is marked [regression] what does that mean? Am I a troglodyte or a Luddite or something? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HAL must die!
Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global default? Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without having a configuration switch? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
8.1-p2 uart appears hopelessly broken
Through the years I have become accustomed to having to have a hardware modem. 7.2 sio correctly identifies my modem as a 3-COM PCI FAX/MODEM and correct identifies the chip as 16550A. In 8.1 uart calls the same device an unstandard ns8250 uart. Nonetheless, tun0 can fireup at boot. But it is never possible to bring it back up on demand after it times out. This is pretty much my definition of hopelessly broken behavior and I cannot find a word of warning in the documentation. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bash can not find most of my commands
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Alokat wrote: Paul has satisfied me. I have changed back to csh. If you want to run as root and use bash, well, that is what the user toor is for (examine master.passwd -- use vipw to edit master.passwd to enter a password for toor and the path to bash for toor, but set EDITOR first if you are not comfortable with vi). If you activate toor, you can log in as toor, use bash, and yet you are root (try whoami as toor). This preserves the root login for emergencies when /usr may not be mounted. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ppp auto only works on boot (8.1)
[255]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Feb 17 09:54:54 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATM0L0^M^M Feb 17 09:54:54 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK Feb 17 09:54:54 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT4194220^M Feb 17 09:54:56 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Expect(80): CONNECT Feb 17 09:54:56 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^M Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Expect timeout Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Warning: Chat script failed Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial - hangup Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 82 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: 2819 packets in, 160 packets out Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Thu Feb 17 09:54:54 2011 Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup - closed Feb 17 09:56:16 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed - opening Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening - dial Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Phone: 4194220 Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATM0L0^M Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT4194220^MATM0L0^M^M Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK Feb 17 09:56:17 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT4194220^M Feb 17 09:56:19 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Expect(80): CONNECT Feb 17 09:56:19 debranded ppp[255]: tun0: Chat: Received: ^MA ppp.conf --- except for /dev change exactly the same as worked in 7.3 (I have also tried with hardware control off with the same result. ipv6cp and mppe are disabled because they are not supported by my ISP and trying to negotiate them is a waste of time.) # # PPP Sample Configuration File # Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO # Simplified 5/14/1999 by ws...@cdrom.com # # See /usr/share/examples/ppp/ for some examples # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.10 2004/11/19 17:12:56 obrien Exp $ # default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command # set log Phase Chat IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) disable ipv6cp disable mppe # Ensure that device references the correct serial port # for your modem. (cuad0 = COM1, cuad1 = COM2) # set device /dev/cuau2 set ctsrts on # set accmap 000a set server /var/run/internet 0177 set speed 115200 set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ \ ATM0L0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT # set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ # \\ AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT set timeout 300# 3 minute idle timer (the default) enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) papchap: # # edit the next three lines and replace the items in caps with # the values which have been assigned by your ISP. # set phone 4194220 set authname XX set authkey X set ifaddr 10.0.0.3/0 10.0.0.4/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR# Add a (sticky) default route -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Xn Nooby wrote: Is there an image-copy backup program that understands the UFS file-system? Or perhaps there is a better solution on FreeBSD? Perhaps I do not understand what you are trying to do, but dump and restore are the only sort-of bulletproof way to backup (copy, clone, move) and restore filesystems. Recipes can be found in the Handbook so you do not have to work out the switches for common tasks for yourself. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
7.3 Get uart to grab modem instead of sio
I am running 7.3. I would like uart to grab the modem, but sio does. I don't want to upgrade to 8.x until I see that things will work with uart. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Make gtk widgets use a larger font
How do I make gtk widgets use larger fonts? I found an old linux FAQ on this, but it appears to have nothing to do with the way configuration works on FreeBSD. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Switch ppp.conf with tun w/o reboot
Can I switch ppp configurations for ppp on demand using tunneling without rebooting? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: need help with php.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote: r...@ethic:/usr/local/www/apache22/data# php PHP Warning: Module 'mysql' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'session' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 Does this mean anything obvious to you? I have my mysql notes on two other computers and will dig into the matter in the morning. IIRC, the mysql stuff shouldn't have any effect on a counter. It means a module is listed twice in extensions.ini (usually in /usr/local/etc/ ) Make the message go away by removing redundant entries manually or with sort -u. This warning should be harmless in execution and usually is only a bother when running command-line one-liners. Unfortunately, many of the php module ports add themselves to extensions.ini without checking whether they are already there. After a few upgrades you may have many entries for some modules. Whatever is really wrong with your php, this isn't it. As I said, harmless, and generally not noticed except at the command line. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Clear and FBSD
Does Clear: 1) Work with FreeBSD --- you just plug it in. 2) Works with FreeBSD --- you need a custom kernel and you sacrifice a goat. 3) Doesn't work with FreeBSD. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: encrypt whole system using zfs
Den 29.07.2010 13:26, skrev Jozsi Vadkan: With dm_cryptlvm, i can install a Debian [in sraid1], that has only the mbr the /boot unencrypted. So if someone steals the server/hdds, it can't do anything to them. That's ok. I'm a newbie to FreeBSD, and I want to use it in the future. I'm looking for these features, that i mentioned above. So, if someone has a little time, can someone post just a few howtos/links, how to do this? [i mean what is the best-practise for this? - to encrypt the whole system/data. And e.g.: the /boot the mbr would stay unencrypted] e.g.: How to install a FreeBSD in encrypted ZFS [and ZFS does the mirroring instead of RAID-1] Thank you! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi! The latest pcbsd does this. If you make a /boot partition, it will keep the keys there, and you may populate the geli encrypted area with zfs if you like. Even if pc-bsd is not your choice, an installation might be a nice tutorial in the subject. Regards, Lars ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Alternate method for fetching source
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Ross Penner wrote: I'm trying to update my system and when I run cvsup, the connection repeatedly has problems (TreeList failed: Network write failure: Connection closed). I'm wondering if anybody can suggest any other method to grab the current source files? You are talking about the system source, not the ports, right? Actually, the advice is not much different. In either case, cvsup does not always work very well for big upgrades (such as across major version numbers) and also (though it theoretically should) doesn't work well creating a source tree from scratch. If you install source (or ports) from the most recent release below your taget before, cvsup is much less likely to crack under pressure. Also, consider changing your mirror. Network conditions may be better for you with some mirrors than with others. And finally, make sure cvsup is up-to-date with your current system. It's in ports/net . (Of course backup what you have before trying any of this.) You may get a more specific response if you include uname -a for your current system and the tags you are trying to use with cvsup. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text editor
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I recommend joe which is one binary with several flavors including pico, emacs, and wordstar work-alikes as well as its own interface. The macro language is easy and powerful. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: (No subject header)
Hi, i have a acer aspire one with no oprating system it has no cd drive would i be possible to download a redy top use version of software so i could boot form a memory stick? (i have no other computer to unlock to iso file) Google is your friend: http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/06/freebsd-80-install-with-a-usb-stick/ next time, do that yourself. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: how to disable loadable kernel moduels?
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Robert Bonomi wrote: I'm building custom kernels for use in 'hostile' environments -- where I need to enforce restricted capabilities, even in the event of malicious 'root' access. (if the bad guy has *physical* access to the machine, I know I'm toast, so I don't try to protect against _that_ in software -- beyond the usual access-control mechnisms, that is.) To accomplish this, I need to (among other things) *completely* disable kernel 'loadable module' functionality. Building the required monolithic kernel is no problem, and by booting from _physical_ read-only media, I can protect against bootloader/kernel/application substitution. I just need to make it impossible to add modules to the running system. I don't see how this is really bullet-proof possible. Anyone with root access can edit loader.conf and force a reboot --- or wait until a power interuption or something causes a reboot. You pretty much have to be able to reboot the machine, soo... It seems to me you could replace kldload (the command, not the system call) with a dummy script which would raise the bar a bit. You could remove (I think) the modules you are afraid of, but someone with root priviledges could replace them with trojans. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: does toor have passwd or not? According to logins -p: yes
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote: Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I was checking for passwordless accounts with 'logins -p'. None was found. However, I understand toor doesn't have passwd by default, and I never touched it, so I expected logins -p to show toor, but it didn't. Just to check I also tried to su toor with root passwd - no access. Please can somebody clarify if toor does indeed have passwd. If there's nothing in the second field, then you have a problem, as that means the account has a NULL password (ie. just hit return when prompted for a password -- I've been wrong before, but I think you do not get a password prompt at all, at least not on login. You enter the login: name and you are off to motd and a command prompt. this is what 'logins -p' detects). That may or may not actually work to get into the toor account depending on how you're trying to authenticate and on various other security settings eg. in /etc/pam.d, but even so it is something that should be fixed pronto. Use vipw(8) to edit master.passwd and insert a * -- vipw will regenerate /etc/passwd and pwd.db automatically for you. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: request
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, Peter Boosten wrote: Isn't Iran one of the countries US does not export to? That could explain the unability to download... Shirley, there are mirrors outside the US. Downloading isos by dial-up can be a pain, but a good ftp client which can restart reliably makes it possible. Here are the FTP mirrors: http://www.freebsd.org/./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html FTP Sites -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: hplip 3.9.8 on fbsd 7.1 with HP LJ P2035
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Rich Winkel wrote: Hi, I can't seem to get it to probe the printer. hp-setup says: error: No devices found. error: Error occured during interactive mode. Exiting. Did you run hp-setup from the command line? The GUI has been broken for a long time. Can you find the printer from the CUPS control panel? Is it set as the default printer in CUPS? dmesg|grep HP says: ugen0: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet P2035, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub0 The http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/laserjet/hp_laserjet_p2035.html page says a plugin is required, but no info on how to get that plugin. Help!! Thanks, Rich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Ian Smith wrote: Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who it is, why can't it look in hosts? See the section: WHO AM I? in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README (assuming you haven't deleted the documentation from your system) Or did not install the src. WHO AM I? doesn't answer the question of how to turn off calling up the internet on every boot. But let's see how far we can get in the README divert(0) Evidently doesn't really matter. VERSIONID(`SCCS or RCS version id') Evidently doesn't really matter. OSTYPE(`hpux9')dnl You must specify an OSTYPE to properly configure things such as the pathname of the help and status files, the flags needed for the local mailer, and other important things. If you omit it, you will get an error when you try to build the configuration. Look at the ostype directory for the list of known operating system types. Okay, let's look in ostype directory: freebsd4, freebsd5, freebsd6. But wait! on freshly cvsupped source for 7.2-p4, freebsd7 is not a recognized ostype according to the ostype directory. It says the configuration won't build without. No point in going on from here if my ostype doesn't exist. And it looks like if I could get past here, I'd be back editing the source every time I upgraded the system because for some reason, after all these years, there cannot be a plain English configuration file in /etc such every other service has managed to come up with. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org