On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:57:09AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
You're the first one to ask in a while. Since our userbase is small,
and developer time is limited, we've never set it up.
The last time this topic came up IMO there was quite some
interest in getting this running but the
I have the latest NVidia driver and the card is 9400GT.
In Configure Window Behavior screen I first check Enable desktop
effects.
Then it says that Compositing is temporarily disabled. When I click
Resume Compositing sometimes nothing happens at all. But sometimes
after few clicks it says
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
ibus-daem 48407 yuri 12uunix 0xc95896700t0
/tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 it doesn't return anything,
like this file isn't open at all.
Why there is such discrepancy?
Yuri
: Yuri y...@rawbw.com
Objet: Why Linux Firefox doesn't play flash movies?
À: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Lundi 15 Février 2010, 2h58
In order to enable Flash I installed
linux-firefox-devel-3.5.7 and
linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45.
They together pulled whole lot of other ports, see list
On Monday 15 February 2010 13:53:27 Alexandre L. wrote:
I can play Youtube movies using Firefox 3.5.x or Firefox 3.6, and
linux-f10-flashplugin10 10.0r45.
I followed the tutorial : http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5786
There are also good instructions at
I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had to move
my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by moving the
directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the moved directory,
using something like:
ln -s /home/wwwlog /var/log/www
This
0xc9589670 0t0 /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6 it doesn't return anything,
like this file isn't open at all.
Why there is such discrepancy?
It looks like fstat doesn't work on unix sockets at all; I tried on
/tmp/mysql.sock and some X11 sockets.
--
Dan
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 09:46:09AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had
to move my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by
moving the directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the
moved
John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com writes:
I didn't make my /var partition big enough, way back when, and have had to
move my /var/log/www directory to another partition. I did this by moving the
directory, and then adding a soft link from /var/log to the moved directory,
using something
Yuri wrote:
But when I run fstat /tmp/dbus-iQmkLjgxD6
it doesn't return anything, like this file isn't
open at all.
I'm not sure that this will answer your question but bear with me.
Usually I use lsof to list any listening TCP or UDP ports, with following
command:
lsof -P -i -n
The result
Dan Nelson wrote:
It looks like fstat doesn't work on unix sockets at all; I tried on
/tmp/mysql.sock and some X11 sockets.
I filed a PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=143962
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In order to enable Flash I installed linux-firefox-devel-3.5.7 and
linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r45.
They together pulled whole lot of other ports, see list below.
But flash still doesn't work: youtube.com shows black windows instead.
I tried windows firefox under wine, but it has a lot of
to rebuilt qt33 and arts (not just me) and the
problem became a BIG problem because many other applications don't work. Why
all of this rush for update a port in this case jpeg which IMO is not so
important (BTW Linux world use K3b for KDE 4 more than six months without
problem, we don't) and update
qt33 and arts (not just me) and the
problem became a BIG problem because many other applications don't work. Why
all of this rush for update a port in this case jpeg which IMO is not so
important (BTW Linux world use K3b for KDE 4 more than six months without
problem, we don't) and update for QT33
channel.
This used to work before. I look at mixer -- all channels are open.
Why pcm doesn't get sent back? Is there something wrong with mixer?
snd_es137x.ko is used:
pcm0: AudioPCI ES1370 port 0xec00-0xec3f irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci8
pcm0: es1370_wrcodec: timed out
pcm0: es1370_wrcodec
I noticed that I can't record sound that comes from pcm channel. For
example audacity only records my voice coming from mic, but doesn't
record other person's voice that skype sends into pcm channel.
This used to work before. I look at mixer -- all channels are open.
Why pcm doesn't get sent
Dino Vliet wrote:
Dear freebsd list,
I have the following pf.conf file:
tcp_services = { ftp, ssh, domain, www, auth, https }
udp_services = { ftp, domain, ntp }
icmp_types = echoreq
block all
pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state
#pass in proto tcp to any port 22
I have these scim-related ports installed:
linux-f10-scim-gtk-1.4.7 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module,
(Linux Fedo
linux-f10-scim-libs-1.4.7 Smart Common Input Method libraries (Linux
Fedora 10)
linux-scim-gtk-fc4-1.4.4_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk
module, Linux binar
Dear freebsd list,
I have the following pf.conf file:
tcp_services = { ftp, ssh, domain, www, auth, https }
udp_services = { ftp, domain, ntp }
icmp_types = echoreq
block all
pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type $icmp_types keep state
#pass in proto tcp to any port 22 keep state
pass out proto tcp
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Dino Vliet dino_vl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Dear freebsd list,
I have the following pf.conf file:
tcp_services = { ftp, ssh, domain, www, auth, https }
udp_services = { ftp, domain, ntp }
icmp_types = echoreq
block all
pass inet proto icmp all icmp-type
-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dino Vliet
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 3:39 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: pf headaches: why won' t it let me fetch from ftp servers?
Dear freebsd list,
I have the following pf.conf file:
tcp_services = { ftp, ssh, domain, www, auth, https
I used vnc while ago without this problem.
Now I see that when client gracefully exits (window close) server
crashes with exception:
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'rdr::EndOfStream'
knotify: Fatal IO error: client killed
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
ksmserver: Fatal IO
When I am in FreeBSD I have to be always aware that I have to check
these files before upgrading the system. And I need to do some custom
things myself.
When I am in Ubuntu apt-get just does everything by itself without
manual intervention.
Why FreeBSD doesn't automate things
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Paul Hoffman typed:
Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At
some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash
could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Paul Hoffman phoff...@proper.com wrote:
Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'.
At some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because
bash could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 01:45:59PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington typed:
There is always this instruction that you need to recompile all installed
ports, which I think you did not do. That instruction makes me sick, given
the time it would take on a critical server.
That's why you don't do
At 11:05 AM +0100 12/8/09, Ruben de Groot wrote:
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 05:35:47PM -0800, Paul Hoffman typed:
Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'.
At some time during the process, I could no longer log ...
...snip...
... t remove the lines from
Greetings. I upgraded a 7.2 system to 8.0 using 'freebsd-update install'. At
some time during the process, I could no longer log in remotely because bash
could not start due to /libexec/ld-elf.so not finding the right libraries. I
added a bunch of lines to /etc/libmap.conf so that I could
Boris Samorodov wrote:
Please show an output for:
% pkg_info -Ix firefox
firefox-3.5.5,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
firefox3-i18n-3.0.15 Localized interface for Firefox3
It works at FreeBSD. It's a firefox question either use it or not.
On Ubuntu language
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:08:19 -0800 Yuri wrote:
Boris Samorodov wrote:
Please show an output for:
% pkg_info -Ix firefox
firefox-3.5.5,1 Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
firefox3-i18n-3.0.15 Localized interface for Firefox3
Delete firefox3-i18n package
Boris Samorodov wrote:
Delete firefox3-i18n package (www/firefox3-i18n port) and install
firefox35-i18n package (www/firefox35-i18n port).
This works. Thanks!
But still LANG variable isn't used. Instead there is a FF-specific way:
through Tools-Quick Locale Switcher menu. Not clear why
-specific
way: through Tools-Quick Locale Switcher menu. Not clear why this is
dependent on the OS (in Linux it's still LANG variable). Maybe it's
the option of FF build process that was chosen differently.
You may ask this at the freebsd-gecko@ (maintainer) mailing list.
--
WBR, Boris Samorodov
Allow me an addition, primarily involving your item #1,
licensing restriction, extended to possible legal
restrictions:
Some ports, especially from the multimedia category,
allow many build-time options that determine what to
include in the final program, mostly used for codecs
and file formats.
strange: on my system all of the ports that I need
build ok. Why would the port build successfully, but would fail to
generate a binary package? Isn't packaging just gzipping resulting
binaries with some minor additions?
Pretty much. There are some ports, like the example given, which can
I am running (under bash):
LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 opera
and all menu items are still in English. Same with firefox3.
Why LANG isn't switched by LANG variable?
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has opera for freebsd been internationalized ?
daniele
Yuri wrote:
I am running (under bash):
LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 opera
and all menu items are still in English. Same with firefox3.
Why LANG isn't switched by LANG variable?
Yuri
daniele wrote:
Hi !
I think that firefox needs its language pack to be installed the usual
way:
THis is the __language pack package description__ for firefox3
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/www/firefox3-i18n/pkg-descr
And this is for firefox35
lets you to
change locale. But this locale doesn't change menus either.
It's not clear why good old LANG variable doesn't work in FreeBSD any more.
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item got Quick Locale Switcher menu which lets
you to change locale. But this locale doesn't change menus either.
Please show an output for:
% pkg_info -Ix firefox
It's not clear why good old LANG variable doesn't work in FreeBSD any more.
It works at FreeBSD. It's a firefox question either use
I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages
only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing.
Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are
available.
Yuri
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Yuri wrote:
I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade -aPP' (packages
only) there is a very large percentage of packages missing.
Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages available are
available.
Missing binary packages are due in the main to three reasons:
*
binary packages, any lower level
port
that fails will prevent packages being built for anything that
depends on
it.
Thank you for this information.
Let's put aside #1. There are probably very few of those.
It still seems strange: on my system all of the ports that I need build
ok. Why
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:47:35 -0800
Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
I am seeing this for a long time. If I use 'portupgrade
-aPP' (packages only) there is a very large percentage of packages
missing. Upgrading becomes many times faster when binary packages
available are available.
Presumably it's
On 11/30/09, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
After upgrading to 8.0 I am getting a new message: wlan0:
/ieee80211_new_state_locked: pending SCAN/ - RUN transition lost.
I use ndis driver with Broadcom WiFi card BCM94312MCGSG.
That is debug message temporarely enabled unconditionally and then
After upgrading to 8.0 I am getting a new message: wlan0:
/ieee80211_new_state_locked: pending SCAN/ - RUN transition lost.
I use ndis driver with Broadcom WiFi card BCM94312MCGSG.
Yuri
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webfont works well. You can also install ttf fonts from windows.Or use Ubuntu).
2009/11/28 Yuri y...@rawbw.com:
Boris Samorodov wrote:
Install x11-fonts/webfonts and do apropriate changes to xorg.conf.
I have webfonts right after misc fonts at xorg.conf. That always
gave me good results.
S4mmael wrote:
webfont works well. You can also install ttf fonts from windows.Or use Ubuntu).
webfonts is installed on my system and doesn't work in ff, as I
mentioned before.
My question is why ff shows Cyrillic so poorly, as opposed opera on the
same system, and you didn't answer
Boris Samorodov wrote:
Install x11-fonts/webfonts and do apropriate changes to xorg.conf.
I have webfonts right after misc fonts at xorg.conf. That always
gave me good results.
I placed 'webfonts' into xorg.conf after 'misc' but firefox still shows
Cyrillic texts in a messed up way. Also
Yuri y...@rawbw.com writes:
When I switched from fc6 to f10 scim stopped working in skype. It
shows the prompt but only English language is available.
In fc6 scim worked fine from skype.
Aha, this time you gave some additional info which may be helpful.
I believe scim picks up environment
When I switched from fc6 to f10 scim stopped working in skype. It shows
the prompt but only English language is available.
In fc6 scim worked fine from skype.
I believe scim picks up environment variables: LANG, XMODIFIERS,
QT_IM_MODULE, XIM, XIM_PROGRAM and displays languages based on them.
Yuri wrote:
How can I know the current environment variables of the running process?
Anyone has a solution for this problem?
Checkout the ps(1) man page. The '-e' flag will cause the environment
of each listed process to be printed out. eg:
% ps -ew -p $$
PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
Matthew Seaman wrote:
% ps -ew -p $$
Thanks, I got the environment. And it looks the same.
But scim shows only English options in it's box. Anyone knows why would
it not show all languages?
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the end. So a LOT of user accounts are gone.
BUT, all of those missing accounts still work.
So ...
1) why do all of the accounts that are missing from both passwd and
master.passwd continue to work properly (they can authenticate and log in over
SSH and so on) ?
2) how can I get back
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 08:14:00AM +, Matthew Seaman typed:
% pw user show -n matthew
matthew:*:1001:1001::0:0:Matthew Seaman:/home/matthew:/bin/tcsh
prints out the master.passwd entry for the user account but *without* the
password crypt-text. You can use:
% pw user show -a
of user accounts are gone.
BUT, all of those missing accounts still work.
So ...
1) why do all of the accounts that are missing from both passwd and
master.passwd continue to work properly (they can authenticate and log in over
SSH and so on) ?
2) how can I get back to healthy ?
I suspect
Hi Yuri,
You wrote:
I have r/w mounted ntfs.
And 'touch x' there produces an error.
Why would this be?
I've had this too. The standard ntfs does not allow rw on the file
system. You have to install fuse-ntfs from /usr/ports/sysutils
(please check this on your system - I do not have
I have r/w mounted ntfs.
And 'touch x' there produces an error.
Why would this be?
8.0-RC2
Yuri
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It keeps repeating this line in original terminal, putting line .. in
between. So it looks like this:
Protocol not supported by server.
..
Protocol not supported by server.
..
Protocol not supported by server.
..
goes on like this
Now I have to start just 'Xorg', it starts bare X. And from
Yuri wrote:
It keeps repeating this line in original terminal, putting line .. in
between. So it looks like this:
Protocol not supported by server.
..
Protocol not supported by server.
..
Protocol not supported by server.
..
goes on like this
Now I have to start just 'Xorg', it starts
2009/10/29 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Ruben de Groot wrote:
sendmail is NOT a legacy application. It's actively being developed
ON FreeBSD. Actually, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job
Bullshit.
Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot
On Thursday 29 October 2009 21:58:54 Lars Eighner wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Ruben de Groot wrote:
sendmail is NOT a legacy application. It's actively being developed
ON FreeBSD. Actually, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job
Bullshit.
Why does sendmail call up the internet during
, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job
Bullshit.
:) IYNSHO.
Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who
it is, why can't it look in hosts?
See the section: WHO AM I? in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README
(assuming you haven't deleted the documentation from
MAKE THE PAIN STOP.
Seriously, read back in the friggin' mailing list archives. None of y'all
are going to say anything that hasn't been said before. Or don't, and just
prove how valuable your time isn't by wasting it arguing about something
that everyone else is just rolling their eyes at and
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Ian Smith wrote:
Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who
it is, why can't it look in hosts?
See the section: WHO AM I? in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README
(assuming you haven't deleted the documentation from your system)
Or did
[4243]: bad exports list line /usr/home -network
Here is my /etc/exports:
/usr/diskless -alldirs -maproot=root -ro -network=10.0.0 -mask=255.0.0.0
/usr/local -maproot=root -ro -network=10.0.0 -mask=255.0.0.0
/usr/home -maproot=root -network=10.0.0 -mask=255.0.0.0
What's wrong?
Also why messages
=10.0.0 -mask=255.0.0.0
What's wrong?
Also why messages are so cryptic? Which attributes? Why bad exports
list line?
If it would explain in messages what's wrong I wouldn't even be
asking question here.
For one thing, the second line should be:
/usr/local -maproot=root,ro -network
At 02:50 AM 10/30/2009, Randi Harper wrote:
This bikeshed is old and tired. I don't want to paint it. I want to drown it
in lighter fluid and set it on fire.
I've never seen a bike shed. Unless perhaps it had a furry seat cover.
--Brett Glass
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Chuck Swiger wrote:
For one thing, the second line should be:
/usr/local -maproot=root,ro -network=10.0.0 -mask=255.0.0.0
For another, you are only supposed to export a given filesystem once;
the notion of exporting it multiple times means you are changing the
values of the previous
On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Yuri wrote:
The workaround suggested in this PR eliminates the messages, but
causes client to get Permission denied message
Because the modified mount points are for different nets.
Assuming /usr/diskless, /usr/local, and /usr/home are all on the same /
usr
pete wright wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
FreeBSD: ?
I can't think of a good reason why FreeBSD should get rid of it.
Saying that, it would be neat if it was taken out of base and replaced
with something minimal that could cope with the demands
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:49:40 +0100, Erik Norgaard norga...@locolomo.org wrote:
But, do we actually need an MTA in the base? The only arguments
I have seen in this thread are:
- because it's been there since the beginning of history - because cron
requires it to send the daily reports
For
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
So Sendmail is a pretty heavy-weight program, but it also supports a lot of
features.
Which was the point, if the only process in base that requires some way
to dump output other than send to syslog, is cron, then Sendmail is
disproportionate solution for the
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:55:20PM +0100, Erik Norgaard typed:
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
I don't argue for a replacement but for the elimination. Install a port
if you need an MTA, you're happy with that way for so many other
standard services.
Isn't this going a little too far? What other
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a
base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called
sendmail_enable and a SMART_HOST value in sendmail.mc) one can
quickly get up and
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Ruben de Groot wrote:
sendmail is NOT a legacy application. It's actively being developed
ON FreeBSD. Actually, the maintainer(s) are doing a great job
Bullshit.
Why does sendmail call up the internet during boot? If it needs to know who
it is, why can't it look
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +, RW wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a
base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called
sendmail_enable and a
to go the linux way: just a kernel
and the rest in packages? I like a complete OS.
That's the key to the discussion, when is the OS complete? I could do
without Sendmail, FTP daemon and NIS. Or the other way, why is there no
http daemon in base, or no ldap? There really is no right answer
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a
base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:39:49 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:35 +, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200
Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote:
What is nice about Sendmail today is that with
Having used sendmail since (quite nearly) the day it was released,
and having also spent considerable time with postfix, exim, etc.
in a variety of environments both small and quite large, I think I'm
in a position to address this.
Sendmail remains one of the best choices for an MTA. It's quite
or perhaps even 4.0cBSD),
whereas the rest were not and have not been.
5) Not telling the OP why has FreeBSD has left so many historical reason
behind to persuit new goals but retained Sendmail as the default
MTA for historical reasons.
Sorry .. but that's the way it goes every time someone
personal profit I cannot see why
people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really,
let's go past this one more time:
Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn
m4!
Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that?
Beside which, m4 is a PORT
personal profit I cannot see why
people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really,
let's go past this one more time:
Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn
m4!
Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that?
Beside which, m4 is a PORT
personal profit I cannot see why
people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really,
let's go past this one more time:
Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn m4!
Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that?
Beside which, m4 is a PORT
he can replace the default MTA
3) telling the OP he can remove given MTA from base
4) telling the OP about historical reason
5) Not telling the OP why has FreeBSD has left so many historical reason
behind to persuit new goals but retained Sendmail as the default
MTA for historical reasons
it necessary to learn yet another scripting
language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why
people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really,
let's go past this one more time:
Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn
m4!
Did
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 02:14:17AM +, Frank Shute wrote:
I'll speculate as to the reasons:
NetBSD: probably wanted something smaller footprint-wise.
OpenBSD: wanted something more secure.
Those both sound like great reasons.
Dragonfly: started afresh, so could replace it without
replace it without many
headaches.
By all means no .. not at all .. they didn't even started afresh ..
Anyways ..
You'll find the reasons here:
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2007-03/msg00060.html
Hey,
again and again people are complaining about why sendmail is in base
and why
://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2007-03/msg00060.html
Hey,
again and again people are complaining about why sendmail is in base
and why not postfix, etc. We keep saying that we do need a mail
delivery/transport agent, for stuff such as periodic, cron, etc.
But that doesn't mean that we need
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have?
Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out
a bunch
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have?
The configuration is opaque, to put it kindly
2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
What is this anti-sendmail obsession people
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system.
But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers are
happy with the status quo, so it is unlikely that sendmail
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system.
But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers
On Monday 26 October 2009 11:06:47 pm Olivier Nicole wrote:
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Out of the 12 or 15 servers I run, only one do not use stock
sendmail: the mail server. So one out of twelve is rather quite a
lot...
Let me get this .. are you saying that out of 12
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:16:30 am Jonathan McKeown wrote:
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few.
Why isn't it moved to ports?
What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have?
Hard to tell
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to
ports?
Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system
should be considered a base system. Is an MTA a requirement or a
remnant from history?
And if an MTA is a requirement then asking which one is the best choice
is also a fair question. An equally fair answer could be whichever
change requires the least work.
No different than asking, why
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote:
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail.
How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to
ports
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:32, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote:
In response to Yuri y...@rawbw.com:
Besides, if it's not there, how are you going to send mail from things
like cron?
Postfix.
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