Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:15:22PM +0100, RW wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Randi Harper wrote: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk by default.

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:39:58PM -0700, Randi Harper wrote: I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's current default size) would be: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most experienced

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Someone mentioned giving the `home` directory its own partition. I think a separate partition for /usr/home, mounted within /usr, is a great idea. It would help substantially with system rebuilds, backups, and using

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation To: Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 2:04 PM On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:36:08

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree completely. I also go a step farther and put most other things that I consider user data in there. Like Subversion repositories and non-user-specific Samba shares (E.g. public type shares).

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:00:53 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree completely. I also go a step farther and put most other things that I consider user data in there. Like Subversion

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:27:31 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:15:22PM +0100, RW wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 4:00 PM On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: According to your suggestion: Drive 16 and 40 GB = / = 1 GB

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: The only time I can really think I'd want /tmp to be in RAM is if I already had too much RAM for the needs of the box - otherwise, just give me the RAM... But it wouldn't actually be a ram disk, that's just

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Sat, 10/10/09, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: From: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 8:43 PM On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Richard Mahlerwein mahle

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 10/10/09, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: But it wouldn't actually be a ram disk, that's just just a misnomer that people, who ought to know better, are throwing around. It would probably

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Randi Harper
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:02 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: At least as far back as SunOs 3.5* the installer was able to auto- size the partitions based on the selected distribution sets. Of course, this means that the installer must know the size of each distribution set -- on each of /,

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Jon Radel
Randi Harper wrote: I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's current default size) would be: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most experienced users are going to use a custom layout when setting up

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Randi Harper
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Jon Radel j...@radel.com wrote: I believe it's been years since I didn't bump up the sizes on an install, otherwise I just end up with all this space where it's least likely to save me from a filled disk in the future. While I am actually running some

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Randi Harper wrote: 1.) Look at the PR database and search for sysinstall. See all those open reports, some from 8 years ago? sysinstall needs some babying. It doesn't need babying, it needs killing. :-) Quotes from the sysinstall(8) manpage: This product is currently at the end of its life

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
From: Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's current default size) would be: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB Similar enough to what I use for general systems that I vote YES. I'd love to add one more - on a drive bigger

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Randi Harper wrote: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk by default. I do that on all of my machines. I never have /tmp physically on disk anywhere. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG,

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread krad
2009/10/9 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de Randi Harper wrote: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk by default. I do that on all of my machines. I never have /tmp physically on disk anywhere. Best regards

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread RW
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:28:09 +0200 (CEST) Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Randi Harper wrote: / = 1GB /var = 2GB /tmp = 2GB Depending on the size of installed RAM, /tmp could also be a memory disk by default. I don't see why it should depend on the amount of RAM, since

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-09 Thread Karl Vogel
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:39:58 -0700, Randi Harper ra...@freebsd.org said: R I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at R it's current default size) would be: R / = 1GB R /var = 2GB R /tmp = 2GB I usually create something like this: / = 200M /usr = 8G

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-08 Thread perryh
Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de wrote: Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: ... Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? It depends on the FreeBSD version, and whether you installed the kernel with debug symbols. 430 MB space used in the root file

/ almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a496M430M

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Q1: Is 26M free space on / after installing FreeBSD normal? That is not the right question to ask :) The question would be is it normal that / is using 430M?. It depemds what you have in / file system. After instal, I have 271M used, but for example, my user home directory is on a separate

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Chris Stankevitz wrote: Hello, I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread unix.hacker
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 02:57:27 -0500 (CDT) Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: *SNIP* That should give you some breathing room in / unless you have the bad habit of running as root and crud accumulates in /root or you keep several old kernels. / and /root should be cleaned as you

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 11:28:00PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: Hello, I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Oliver Fromme
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@yahoo.com wrote: I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Robert Huff
Jonathan Chen writes: I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread krad
2009/10/7 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com Jonathan Chen writes: I just installed FreeBSD. After I installed it, I was surprised to find only 26M of space on /. I used the auto-defaults during the Disklabel portion of the install. [cstankev...@crs-m6300 ~]$ df -h

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:39:52 +0100, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: if only we had zfs root as standard and none of this would be an issue. 8) You can create one big / partition even on UFS. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

Re: / almost out of space just after installation

2009-10-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 11:28:00PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote: Q2: Will I be able to install GNOME, Firefox, download 30 MB of files, and place them on my GNOME dekstop? (I believe the desktop is located at /home/cstankevitz/.desktop aka on the root partition where there is only 26M of