RE: CVSup doubts

2005-11-26 Thread vizion


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Efren Bravo
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:39 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: CVSup doubts
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to configure CVSup to download only
 ports but I've several doubts about it. I took
 /usr/share/examples/ports-supfile file. (freeBSD
 6.0 RELEASE-i386)
 
 1- When I update a specific port, only is updated
 his skeleton or his binary files are downloaded
 too?
 
 2- For instance if I'm just interested in
 updating  /usr/ports/net ports, do I do it
 commenting the ports-all line and comment out
 ports-net line?
 
 3- I don't have the /usr/ports/net-im folder, Can
 I add the line ports-net-im, to download his
 content?
 
FWIW I suggest you keep the whole collection because once you have it set up
it does not take much time to keep the collection up to date because the
ports does not include the pkg.

david

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Re: CVSup doubts

2005-11-26 Thread Chris
vizion wrote:
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Efren Bravo
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:39 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: CVSup doubts

Hi,

I'm trying to configure CVSup to download only
ports but I've several doubts about it. I took
/usr/share/examples/ports-supfile file. (freeBSD
6.0 RELEASE-i386)

1- When I update a specific port, only is updated
his skeleton or his binary files are downloaded
too?

2- For instance if I'm just interested in
updating  /usr/ports/net ports, do I do it
commenting the ports-all line and comment out
ports-net line?

3- I don't have the /usr/ports/net-im folder, Can
I add the line ports-net-im, to download his
content?

I STONGLY suggest you read the handbook. Then, read it again.
Then once more for good measure.

CVS is NOT hard IF you take the time to READ and LEARN.

If however you don't want to take the time to read, learn and understand
- then stick with the packages.

You are the type of user that will download a tarball, try to install
it, then complain that it don't work. Never mind the fact that you have
packages and ports.

You will be the user that EXPECTS everything you download, to run
automagically without an ounce of knowledge of how to use the powerfull
OS and it's tools you seemed to have muddled through installing, right
at your fingertips.

I hate users looking for the shortcuts.


-- 
Best regards,
Chris

Real programmers don't eat muffins.
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Re: CVSup doubts

2005-11-26 Thread Jason C. Wells

Chris wrote:


I hate users looking for the shortcuts.


Funny. I didn't see that at all in the original email.  What I saw was a 
genuine misunderstanding.


He was asking about using CVSUP to track ports on a one by one basis. 
What he didn't understand is that a person really wants to CVSUP the 
whole ports tree.  It's a fair misunderstanding if one starts with an 
FTP-ish RPM-ish mindset.  John Chen's answer was appropriate.


To Efren I add the following.  You may also want to read up on 'refuse' 
files as documented in the cvsup(1) man page.  I don't recommend using 
them though.


Later,
Jason
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Re: CVSup doubts

2005-11-26 Thread Efren Bravo
Jason, David, Chen and the others, !=Chris,  
  
I don't lose my time to answering him because I
wouldn't have time to read the CVSup man pages as
Chris suggests, jajajajaja  
  
thanks for your help


 --- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 vizion wrote:
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Efren
 Bravo
 Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:39 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: CVSup doubts
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to configure CVSup to download
 only
 ports but I've several doubts about it. I
 took
 /usr/share/examples/ports-supfile file.
 (freeBSD
 6.0 RELEASE-i386)
 
 1- When I update a specific port, only is
 updated
 his skeleton or his binary files are
 downloaded
 too?
 
 2- For instance if I'm just interested in
 updating  /usr/ports/net ports, do I do it
 commenting the ports-all line and comment out
 ports-net line?
 
 3- I don't have the /usr/ports/net-im folder,
 Can
 I add the line ports-net-im, to download his
 content?
 
 I STONGLY suggest you read the handbook. Then,
 read it again.
 Then once more for good measure.
 
 CVS is NOT hard IF you take the time to READ
 and LEARN.
 
 If however you don't want to take the time to
 read, learn and understand
 - then stick with the packages.
 
 You are the type of user that will download a
 tarball, try to install
 it, then complain that it don't work. Never
 mind the fact that you have
 packages and ports.
 
 You will be the user that EXPECTS everything
 you download, to run
 automagically without an ounce of knowledge of
 how to use the powerfull
 OS and it's tools you seemed to have muddled
 through installing, right
 at your fingertips.
 
 I hate users looking for the shortcuts.
 
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Chris
 
 Real programmers don't eat muffins.
 


Efren Bravo.



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Re: CVSup doubts

2005-11-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-26 23:28, Efren Bravo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jason, David, Chen and the others, !=Chris,

 I don't lose my time to answering him because I wouldn't have
 time to read the CVSup man pages as Chris suggests, jajajajaja

 thanks for your help

Strange as his style may seem, he is 100% right about one thing:
You should definitely take the time to read the relevant Handbook
sections.  Especially the parts that describe The Ports and the
Packages.

If you still have questions after reading the relevant Handbook
bits, then please feel free to ask here for any details.

- Giorgos

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CVSup doubts

2005-11-25 Thread Efren Bravo
Hi,

I'm trying to configure CVSup to download only
ports but I've several doubts about it. I took
/usr/share/examples/ports-supfile file. (freeBSD
6.0 RELEASE-i386)
  
1- When I update a specific port, only is updated
his skeleton or his binary files are downloaded
too?  
  
2- For instance if I'm just interested in
updating  /usr/ports/net ports, do I do it
commenting the ports-all line and comment out
ports-net line?  
  
3- I don't have the /usr/ports/net-im folder, Can
I add the line ports-net-im, to download his
content?

Thanks...



Efren Bravo.



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Re: CVSup doubts

2005-11-25 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 07:38:34PM +0100, Efren Bravo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to configure CVSup to download only
 ports but I've several doubts about it. I took
 /usr/share/examples/ports-supfile file. (freeBSD
 6.0 RELEASE-i386)
   
 1- When I update a specific port, only is updated
 his skeleton or his binary files are downloaded
 too?  

Only the ports skeleton is updated. If you want to update/upgrade
your installed ports, you have to use something like
sysutils/portupgrade.

 2- For instance if I'm just interested in
 updating  /usr/ports/net ports, do I do it
 commenting the ports-all line and comment out
 ports-net line?  

 3- I don't have the /usr/ports/net-im folder, Can
 I add the line ports-net-im, to download his
 content?

It's always safer to use ports-all, as most ports have dependencies on
ports outside its immediate tree. If you don't update all dependancies
you almost always have trouble building your desired port.

Cheers.
-- 
Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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specialisation is for insects
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